OK no worries, I noticed the smiley later

Today's short report in the Daily Mail about Keith's release from hospital says that its expected that he'll be fit enough to fly home from New Zealand in a fortnight (ie, 2 weeks)

This is just my 2 cents worth, but maybe there is a useful thought in here somewhere. It is important I think to remember that the members of this and other boards make up a very small portion of the "paying customers" that go to see the Stones perform.We go when we can. Many times to multiple shows.The majority of ticket sales go elsewhere. To a very wide and differing range of people.New fans, old fans ,company groups ect. If the Band is forced to cancel the entire Europe leg of this tour, I think they will face a very big challenge getting it back togeather.At an age not ideal for this sort of thing.Consider the ticket refund process, and expense.Promoters to deal with and or compensate.All the logistical people set up around Europe.Bad PR, and the perception at least to some that the whole thing has gone on long enough.I hope that this does not happen.But it could. One thing I find interesting though is that if I have my dates right the day Keith went under the knife was the same day R.S.com said the tour would pick up in June.As if that was in the works already.And do we really know what happened to him, what's been done and the severity of the situation? Really?Anyway I hope as we all do for the best.I sure hate to see it go down like this. I'm suer Keith does too.

humanriff77 Wrote:
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> OK no worries, I noticed the smiley later
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Don't worry, I don't worry that easily. It was just a joke that a Canadian friend of mine and myself do all the time. As soon as somebody uses the expression "Great minds think alike" we say "And fools seldom differ". Stupid joke, I know it's a grooner, but we like it.
About your message about the post on Rocks Off. Well it is just another post. Somebody posting something that he/she might think is true.

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Keep On Rolling

Gazza Wrote:
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> Today's short report in the Daily Mail about
> Keith's release from hospital says that its
> expected that he'll be fit enough to fly home from
> New Zealand in a fortnight (ie, 2 weeks)

This is the news I've been hoping to hear!! Enough of this "never tour again" crap.

Posted by: MnLtMi
>>>>>>>If the Band is forced to cancel the entire Europe leg of this tour, I think they will face a very big challenge getting it back togeather.At an age not ideal for this sort of thing."<<<<<<<

I agree with that as a possibility for some ticket buyers. But I think it's also a given that many folks will view any rescheduled or future tour as a possible last chance to see the phenomenon called the Rolling Stones, and won't want to miss seeing them.

Maybe. Personally I really believe things are not as bleek as all that. In fact my feel is things spin up sooner than we think. After all, almost all the info we have is hear say or gossip. We don't really know what happened or Keith's real state do we? I mean do they usually let "Brain" op patients walk out of the hospital 48 hrs later? Anyway I was just thinking out loud. At $ 300-400 a ticket its a little different than 1972 at $ 12.50 face.

>> do they usually let "Brain" op patients walk out of the hospital 48 hrs later? <<

on the other hand, most patients can't afford the kind of at-home care Keith can, if he needs it.
all i personally feel is that i have no (0) idea what to expect, so all i can do is wait and find out.
i do trust that no one's going to put Keith's well-being at any risk by rushing things ...
and that Keith's doin his best to be back in fighting form as soon as he can. Keith loves his job.

Keith, be well - all the way, baby, all the way

with sssoul Wrote:
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> >> do they usually let "Brain" op patients walk
> out of the hospital 48 hrs later? <<
>
> on the other hand, most patients can't afford the
> kind of at-home care Keith can, if he needs it.
> all i personally feel is that i have no (0) idea
> what to expect, so all i can do is wait and find
> out.
> i do trust that no one's going to put Keith's
> well-being at any risk by rushing things ...
> and that Keith's doin his best to be back in
> fighting form as soon as he can. Keith loves his
> job.
>
> Keith, be well - all the way, baby, all the way


Yes, he sure is presented with some powerful motivation to do what the health system folks suggest, given he's in the middle of a tour. He doesn't seem to have a strong history of taking their advice on other health issues - but I hope his mature wisdom at age 62 will come in handy at this point. And he can afford the best help available, which will benefit him greatly.

Great help does not stop infection,nerve damage,accidents, over doing it,and all the other wonderful things that can happen to you(I imagin) after you have your head opened up.I mean he had to be physically able to walk out of there to begin with.I think it was a statement that he was seen walking out of there.Would you walk out of a hospital with a leaking blood vessel in your head. Or any of the other ailments he is supposed to have had? All I'm saying is that I really don't think the situation is as grave as some would have it seem. Good no,but all may not be lost.You know,the positive approach.Hold your tickets. Wait and see.Of coures I could be full of it.

Gothenburg seems to still be on, according to the swedish promotor, they were to have info yesterday (friday), if the date was to change. No such info was given from the Stonescamp, so I´ll say it´s on.

[www.aftonbladet.se]

Vilhelm
Nordic Stones Vikings

Maybe they could speed up the process by rehearsing in New Zeland if Keith was up to it and just waiting for the clear to fly. That way they wouldn't have to wait untill he is able to fly to Europe and then rehears. Then the tour would be able to start earlier. Just and idea.

>> You know, the positive approach. Hold your tickets. Wait and see. <<

that's all i'm doing, MnLtMi - of course it was a great strong statement that Keith walked out of there.

Keith, be well - all the way, baby, all the way

Is Monday 15th the day .............. for the announcement from rs.com ???

God I hope so !!

MnLtMi Wrote:
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> Great help does not stop infection,nerve
> damage,accidents, over doing it,and all the other
> wonderful things that can happen to you(I imagin)
> after you have your head opened up.I mean he had
> to be physically able to walk out of there to
> begin with.I think it was a statement that he was
> seen walking out of there.Would you walk out of a
> hospital with a leaking blood vessel in your head.
> Or any of the other ailments he is supposed to
> have had? All I'm saying is that I really don't
> think the situation is as grave as some would have
> it seem. Good no,but all may not be lost.You
> know,the positive approach.Hold your tickets. Wait
> and see.Of coures I could be full of it.

You should'nt take it so hard.
have you read about the Incas healers? interesting stuff - maybe worth a read.

>>The most successful surgeons were the Incas, who started out in the southern highlands of Peru around Cuzco but went on to conquer most of the central Andes before the Spanish arrived and put an end to their empire in 1532.
The Incas' ancestors began trepanning around AD 900, but the operation became almost an art form under the Incas themselves, around AD 1350 to 1400. The Inca surgeons used all the techniques seen elsewhere but preferred a fourth method—circular grooving, gouging out a bevelled ring of bone with a sharp instrument. "In some cases the surgeons' skills were very impressive. They made nice round holes and there was good long-term healing. The Incas were doing better surgery than many later surgeons in Europe," says Verano. The Incas had a success rate of around 80 per cent. In Europe and America in the 19th century and early 20th century, surgeons operating on the skull were lucky to save 25 per cent of patient<<

read more about the skull doctors here
[www.critpsynet.freeuk.com]



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nick Wrote:
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> Hey Doc, your just kidding comment about the boat
> might not had been a joke. Sounds like a
> fantastic idea actually. Gets on a cruise liner
> with his cabins outfitted with his "out patient"
> needs and a doctor or two. The time spent on the
> seas will replace the time spent waiting in NZ for
> his out patient visits. All risks from flying too
> soon are eliminated also.


I also like that idea.
the whole band could join in, start rehearsing and rock the boat

Comments to the three most recent commentators;
Paulywaul, those @#$%& at rs.com, that still announce dates in may...
Open-g, inca healers, that's absolutely something for Keith.
Even if they (well they are, arent they?) the same dudes that
has human sacrifies etc; we should learn more from that in many senses highly developed culture.
Open-g again; boat or not... (on Nic/Doc):

Why dont Darryl, Chuckie, Ron, Charlie & Mick and
possibly the brass- and choir-folks just go to NZ to rehearse
next weekend?

My mum had a blood clot in her leg, and flying can be fatal in those cases.
That goes of course in particular within the nearest weeks.
..But as Gazza, within a fortnight might be possible for Keith.

"Why dont Darryl, Chuckie, Ron, Charlie & Mick and
possibly the brass- and choir-folks just go to NZ to rehearse
next weekend"

That will probably happen - they can just as well rehearse in NZ as well as in Europe..... they could already now begin to rehearse and then they are ready around June 5.

Anybody knows where they were supposed to rehearse?

Could have been in the same location, where ABB was recorded....

Sure it will happen any time soon. It has to be because of all the engagement they have with the promoters, the public, the tickets, insurrance and many other important things so the sooner, the better. If they wait too long, it will create even more trouble for every one. They need to rehearse (I suppose) and get the band together again. I guess Mick can not just snap his fingers and everything would fall into place. I know he is a god but there are limits to his power I may suppose.

got tickets to see them in Vienna and am worried about that show at the moment.. not booked flights or hotel yet and need to do that soon.. don't think they will cancel the whole euro log of the tour but alot of the dates might be moved around..

it's not just keith getting better but who much doing show will take out of him he might need more time to recover between shows and this could lead to others being moved about

No shows before 01 July is my bet...

JR

we'll sea this week i think!