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yet another Keith guitar inquiry ...
Posted by: with sssoul ()
Date: April 17, 2006 00:31

... i've been saving this one for a while - what, pray tell, is this guitar here,
and why? :E


- 1997 (courtesy of Sergey Grigoryan)



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2006-04-17 22:25 by with sssoul.

Re: yet another Keith guitar inquiry ...
Posted by: Mathijs ()
Date: April 17, 2006 19:30

I have never been able to find the model -it's most likely a '60's National/Supro, but even that's a guess.

Mathijs

Re: yet another Keith guitar inquiry ...
Posted by: JuanTCB ()
Date: April 17, 2006 19:31

That's from the Anybody Seen My Baby video, right?

He's never used that one live, has he?

Re: yet another Keith guitar inquiry ...
Posted by: T&A ()
Date: April 17, 2006 19:34

to hell with the guitar - love the ciggie - what's the brand?

Re: yet another Keith guitar inquiry ...
Posted by: open-g ()
Date: April 17, 2006 19:36

Most likely thats a Marlboro - but the guitar? never seen one like that

Re: yet another Keith guitar inquiry ...
Posted by: bruno ()
Date: April 17, 2006 20:28

Well, well. I always have to do these jobs... LOL!

It seems to be a National guitar, a Town&Country model. Check these links:

[www.gbase.com] Gbase works as a pretty good database when searching vintage guitars.

[www.musurgia.com]

Ugly as hell, BTW!

[There'll be no wedding today...]

Re: yet another Keith guitar inquiry ...
Posted by: Wuudy ()
Date: April 17, 2006 20:32

I asked that question myself several times. I think it is a very ugly guitar. The foto is from the B2B period.

Cheers,
Wuudy

Re: yet another Keith guitar inquiry ...
Posted by: Reptile ()
Date: April 17, 2006 20:45

bruno Wrote:
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> Well, well. I always have to do these jobs...
> LOL!
>
> It seems to be a National guitar, a Town&Country
> model. Check these links:
>
> [www.gbase.com]?
> Item=866174 Gbase works as a pretty good database
> when searching vintage guitars.
>
> [www.musurgia.com]
> 4&CartID=147540442006
>
> Ugly as hell, BTW!

There's your answer, miss sssoul. By the way, don't you have a name?

Re: yet another Keith guitar inquiry ...
Posted by: with sssoul ()
Date: April 17, 2006 21:56

wow, thank you Bruno - well done indeed!
i was thinking National, but could never find anything that resembled it.
if Keith weren't behind it it would look pretty crappy, wouldn't it.


"What do you want - what?!"
- Keith

Re: yet another Keith guitar inquiry ...
Posted by: Reptile ()
Date: April 17, 2006 21:59

with sssoul Wrote:
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> wow, thank you Bruno - well done indeed!
> i was thinking National, but could never find
> anything that resembled it.
> if Keith weren't behind it it would look pretty
> crappy, wouldn't it.

Yeah, Keith is actually so cool that he makes this ugly guitar look a bit cool in this photo.

Re: yet another Keith guitar inquiry ...
Posted by: with sssoul ()
Date: April 17, 2006 22:05

just reading about it on those sites the gallant Bruno posted - thanks again and bravo, Bruno!
what would anyone want six knobs for? and isn't that a mighty awkward place to have the controls?
"looks downhome and sophisticated at the same time" - yeah, my sweet ass! :E


"What do you want - what?!"
- Keith

Re: yet another Keith guitar inquiry ...
Posted by: Reptile ()
Date: April 17, 2006 22:08

If you would have taken the time to actually READ the sites.. just kidding.. it's on there:

Two powerful National single coil pickups (which look very much like humbuckers) are controlled be a 3-way switch and SIX knobs, which are three different tone and volume circuts for bass, PU, Treble PU and both together.

Re: yet another Keith guitar inquiry ...
Posted by: with sssoul ()
Date: April 17, 2006 22:11

i did READ it, thanks. i see what the knobs do,
just don't get why anyone would want six knobs for two pickups.
it seems very fidgety.


"What do you want - what?!"
- Keith

Re: yet another Keith guitar inquiry ...
Posted by: Reptile ()
Date: April 17, 2006 22:14

with sssoul Wrote:
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> i did READ it, thanks. i see what the knobs do,
> just don't get why anyone would want six knobs for
> two pickups.
> it seems very fidgety.

Like it says, it has 3 seperate tone and volume circuits, one for the bass PU, one for the treble PU and one for both together. I think it's strange too. It's probably supposed to be.. here goes that awful word again.. VINTAGE.

Re: yet another Keith guitar inquiry ...
Posted by: Erik_Snow ()
Date: April 17, 2006 22:15

Where's that photo from?
Brides To Babylon, OK, but.... the studio session or what?
It seems more understandable if it is from one specific song, let's say Might As Well Get Juiced or something.
I remember the "making of BtB", that was sent on the TV. Didn't Keith use a strange guitar for Gunface, or am I wrong?

Re: yet another Keith guitar inquiry ...
Posted by: with sssoul ()
Date: April 17, 2006 22:19

i don't know where the photo was taken Erik, but it looks like a photo/film shoot to me.
JuanTCB (above) thinks it's from the Anybody Seen My Baby video - i'll have to check that out.
maybe Keith only used this guitar when dangling from rooftop gargoyles ...


"What do you want - what?!"
- Keith

Re: yet another Keith guitar inquiry ...
Posted by: Koen ()
Date: April 17, 2006 22:20

with sssoul Wrote:
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> what would anyone want six knobs for? and isn't
> that a mighty awkward place to have the controls?

Ronnie has a silver-colored guitar with a bunch of knobs on it. Also Brian May's homemade guitar has a lot. But some of them are switches to change the way the elements are wirder together, producing a variety of sounds. The position of the knows is indeed strange, I agree.

Re: yet another Keith guitar inquiry ...
Posted by: Erik_Snow ()
Date: April 17, 2006 22:25

with sssoul Wrote:
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> maybe Keith only used this guitar when dangling
> from rooftop gargoyles ...

Yea, that's quite funny, that he didn't want to bring one of his favourite guitars, when walking up there.
"Hey, if I fall, noone innocent will get hurt"

Re: yet another Keith guitar inquiry ...
Posted by: with sssoul ()
Date: April 17, 2006 22:33

>> JuanTCB (above) thinks it's from the Anybody Seen My Baby video - i'll have to check that out.
maybe Keith only used this guitar when dangling from rooftop gargoyles ... <<

sure enough:


- Anybody Seen My Baby, august 1997



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2006-04-17 22:45 by with sssoul.

Re: yet another Keith guitar inquiry ...
Posted by: open-g ()
Date: April 18, 2006 00:35

That used to be my desktop-pic - but its gone, b/c I lost my harddisk.

been installing all day long, & still not finished

Re: yet another Keith guitar inquiry ...
Posted by: ChelseaDrugstore ()
Date: April 18, 2006 07:32

I wonder if Keith would play that guitar for real; I mean live. For the same reason that I am bad at playing Les Pauls: it has those knobs at the top, front of the body. Keith strums with his right hand very close to the neck, and also comes up very high on the upstroke. He would probably be contantly hitting those knobs. At least they are knobs and not PU switches. The Les Paul has the PU switxh right there and I personally am always whacking those pick-ups back and forth.

"...no longer shall you trudge 'cross my peaceful mind."

Re: yet another Keith guitar inquiry ...
Posted by: Mathijs ()
Date: April 18, 2006 09:50

Of course this National guitar is not for real. It is purely for the visuals. These guitars were cheap, plywood instruments made for the mail order and shopping mall market. They are cheap, don't stay in tune, are very hard to play and sound bad. This guitar is purely for the video.

Mathijs

Re: yet another Keith guitar inquiry ...
Posted by: RollingStonesRob ()
Date: April 23, 2006 09:35

Robbie Krieger uses it on the video version for Break on Through by the Doors.

Re: yet another Keith guitar inquiry ...
Posted by: Big Al ()
Date: August 5, 2013 00:57

For anyone wondering what a National guitar sounds like, here's Phil X from Fretted Americana demonstrating a 1962 model.




Re: yet another Keith guitar inquiry ...
Posted by: steini ()
Date: August 5, 2013 02:28

I would love to hear Anybody Seen May Baby with this guitar especially the long high tones which i think Waddy played.



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