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Ronnie's b-benders
Posted by: with sssoul ()
Date: February 24, 2006 19:35

all right open-g honey, this is all your fault:

>> Ron uses it on the Flicks DVD on HTW and BTMMR ...
>> At the Rio show Ronnie played some awesome b-bender pulls on Honky Tonk Women.
very subtle, really got me excited, up and down my spine it went.
that was his black Fender Tele. He also has a b-bender in his red ESP Telecaster.
You can see when Ron is getting prepared for the bender - he stands still, shoulder and strap in place and then ... <<

that is way cool and i am having a blast, up and down my spine and everything! :E
i want more - where can i witness more of Ronnie doin his b-bender thing, please and thank you very kindly?



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Re: Ronnie's b-benders
Posted by: bruno ()
Date: February 24, 2006 20:11

If I'm not wrong he plays it on She's So Cold and Tumbling Dice this tour, too.
I don't like the b-bender thing a lot, to be honest.

[There'll be no wedding today...]

Re: Ronnie's b-benders
Posted by: Lukester ()
Date: February 24, 2006 20:12

I get frustrated by this since I don't know all the damn acronym's, but what is BTMMR, please?

Thank you.

Re: Ronnie's b-benders
Posted by: with sssoul ()
Date: February 24, 2006 20:14

Before They Make Me Run

Re: Ronnie's b-benders
Posted by: Lukester ()
Date: February 24, 2006 20:35

ttthank you very much.

Re: Ronnie's b-benders
Posted by: open-g ()
Date: February 24, 2006 21:01

Nice topic Miss sssoul, much appreciated.

I can't contribute right now, as I'm in a hurry.
I'll join ya later - in the meanwhile - keep 'em commin'


Re: Ronnie's b-benders
Posted by: with sssoul ()
Date: February 24, 2006 21:19

i'll do my best until you get back, open-g!
having now watched TD from one of the january MSG shows (thanks Bruno honey!),
and recalling Keith's plaintive "i'm just not used to it" (in 86),
how responsive is a b-bender? i mean: how much pressure do you need to use to get it doin its thing?



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Re: Ronnie's b-benders
Posted by: RankOutsider ()
Date: February 24, 2006 21:36

I just love these b-bender threads.

I ain't stupid, I'm just guitarded.



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Re: Ronnie's b-benders
Posted by: open-g ()
Date: February 24, 2006 23:40

right now theres a snotty young band playing at my local pub
It's beeing streamed to web radio
If you wanna have a listen dial this (hope it works)
[www.intertank.org]

go to music / intertank webradio
the band's called
Ray Barracks

cheers
they do have good beer

unfortunatly they don't play b-bender guitars winking smiley




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Re: Ronnie's b-benders
Posted by: with sssoul ()
Date: February 25, 2006 00:12

rats & drats, it wouldn't let me listen, though i tried and i tried and i tried -
(ahem, pardon - just picking myself back up after that january MSG Satisfaction - that was freakin HOT!)

is it just those two Teles you've already mentioned that Ronnie's got b-benders in?



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Re: Ronnie's b-benders
Posted by: JuanTCB ()
Date: February 25, 2006 00:31

I initially read this title as "Ronnie's Benders".

I was going to suggest the entire No Security tour

Thank you, thank you - I'm here all week. Don't forget to tip your bartender.

Re: Ronnie's b-benders
Posted by: tomk ()
Date: February 25, 2006 04:22

Well, as I mentioned before on another thread, I use a b-bender. I use it on maybe 5 or 6 songs out of the 20 or so in my set. You don't want to overdo it. I love it.
I always wanted one. Got mine in NAshville.
I wanted one because of Ron Wood really. Love the way he uses it, especially BTMMR. Although I love Clarance White and his playing, his use (and invention) of it wasn't the reason I got it (listen to Byrds Younger Than Yesterday and Wasn't Born To Follow for examples).
It's a lot heavier than a normal Tele, and you only pull down maybe 2-3 inches
on the neck for the device to work. It also has a tuning knob on the back of the guitar to adjust the pitch. It took a little getting used to, but not much.
If you were used to playing a scale in one position, sometimes you have to rearrange
where you want to go on the neck if you want to use the bender 'cause if you're not careful, you can hit a clunker. I kind of use it as a secret weapon. MOst guitar players have never seen one (and a lot don't even know what one is). I'd be surprised if here in LA there are less than a handful of guitarists that have one.
I think Gene PArsons' b-bender web site has a bunch of 30 second soundbytes of various B-bender licks. ANd at the end of the day, it's still a Telecaster.

Re: Ronnie's b-benders
Posted by: open-g ()
Date: February 25, 2006 07:16

I'm so glad you contributed to this one, tomK.
youre the only one i heared of, who ownes a fender b-bender. You lucky guy you.

yeah, you shouldn't over do it, not too many songs - to pull out the V-weapon.
I think Ron uses it so subtile, and its quite hard to tell when he does.
but thats the magic, innit?

The Buenos Aires broadcast
was so different,
Ron was way up in the mix, givin' it all away to anyones ears who could receive it

It's only the Taylorites, who are deaf to Ronnies licks. they dont appreciate his playing.
It hasn't been there before - till Ron played it. HTW for instance.
of course everyone loves the best ever single studio version of HTW,
+ we had a lot of great live versions. Keith is always in focus, of course
...but Rons bends cant be topped
its not endless noodeling, its lean and precise bends.
Ron seams so prepeared for them - I love it

Re: Ronnie's b-benders
Posted by: Glass Slide ()
Date: February 25, 2006 07:19

JuanTCB Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> I initially read this title as "Ronnie's
> Benders".
>
> I was going to suggest the entire No Security
> tour
>
> Thank you, thank you - I'm here all week. Don't
> forget to tip your bartender.


Yeah know, I am not sure that is funny, but I can't stop laughing.

Re: Ronnie's b-benders
Posted by: open-g ()
Date: February 25, 2006 07:23

even got me chucklin'

Re: Ronnie's b-benders
Posted by: open-g ()
Date: February 25, 2006 16:07

with sssoul Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
>
> is it just those two Teles you've already
> mentioned that Ronnie's got b-benders in?


I have only spotted these 2 Teles equipped with Parsons White B-Benders, so far.
The black Tele probably isn't a Fender but also ESP.
[www.worldmusicsupply.com]
must check the the Rio DVD when its finished dl

Re: Ronnie's b-benders
Posted by: open-g ()
Date: March 4, 2006 19:13

I know you like pictures, don't ya? hehe
Ron and his B-bender Tele in Rio






hmm...that logo on the headstock doesn't look like ESP at all
what could it be?
Just checked this one
[www.espguitars.com]
I guess that's it
ESP after all.



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Re: Ronnie's b-benders
Posted by: JuanTCB ()
Date: March 4, 2006 19:16

He's playing the Ronnie Wood ESP custom model. That's his signiture on the headstock.

[www.espguitars.com]

Re: Ronnie's b-benders
Posted by: open-g ()
Date: March 4, 2006 19:33

Thanx Juan, I was at the same site without seeing your post - we could have met therewinking smiley

Re: Ronnie's b-benders
Posted by: with sssoul ()
Date: March 4, 2006 19:34

wow, nice screen captures, Open-G honey - thanks!
and have some popcorn to go with that movie. :E

Re: Ronnie's b-benders
Posted by: open-g ()
Date: March 4, 2006 19:46

with sssoul Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> wow, nice screen captures, Open-G honey - thanks!
> and have some popcorn to go with that movie. :E


allright Miss sssoul, I'll make some beautiful tea

Re: Ronnie's b-benders
Posted by: with sssoul ()
Date: March 4, 2006 21:31

excellent idea, open-g!
and i am still pondering this b-bender thing - when did Ronnie start using it?

the good TomK wrote: "you only pull down maybe 2-3 inches on the neck for the device to work"
am i picturing this properly? pulling it down like that is what engages it, and once it's engaged it responds to the pressure you're putting on the neck?
how easy is it to engage it by accident, just in the course of acting like a Guitar Hero? :E

and other questions that actually boil down to: TomK, can i try yours out just to get a feel for how it works? :E
pass that tea, open-g



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Re: Ronnie's b-benders
Posted by: open-g ()
Date: March 4, 2006 22:58

> when did Ronnie start using it?
Good question.
My guess would date it to '92

Maybe we can put a list of songs together, where the B-Bender can be heard.
I'm sure missing some out - so please add to the list.

Waddy Wachtel, 1992 Main Offender - Eileen
Ronnie 1992, Slide on This - Ragtime Annie
Ronnie 1994, Voodoo Lounge - Sparks will fly, I go wild,
This tour on Tumblin' Dice and Honky Tonk Women

From which year was that Keith interview you told me about recently?

>TomK, can i try yours out just to get a feel for how it works? :E
after you've finished, can you pass it on, please.

Re: Ronnie's b-benders
Posted by: tomk ()
Date: March 4, 2006 23:13

My error. It's more like an inch. The device is attached
to the strap so when you pull down, the bender device activates.
So when you push down on the neck, the pitch on the b-string rises.
and when you bring it back down, it returns to its original note.
I hope i'm making sense. Got to the b-bender website for more info.
YOu don't have to tug too much on it to get it going.
YOu can also do it in reverse and push down, then hit the string
so its bending down back to the note. It's a pedal-steel effect, really.
As for with sssoul wanting to try mine out, anyone that lives
near or in or passing through the LA area is welcome at my house.

Re: Ronnie's b-benders
Posted by: with sssoul ()
Date: March 4, 2006 23:13

>> Good question. <<

eek, really?! i surprise myself sometimes. :E

>> From which year was that Keith interview you told me about recently? <<

june 1986 - and isn't that interesting: somehow i was picturing it the other way around:
that Keith got one because Ronnie had one that he was getting good mileage out of.
wrong again! have some more popcorn.



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Re: Ronnie's b-benders
Posted by: open-g ()
Date: March 5, 2006 02:41

>> Good question. <<

>eek, really?! i surprise myself sometimes. :E

C'mon, you always have good questions - but usually hard to answer.

So we know Keith wasn't so familiar with the b-bender in june '86 - right?
well - who gave Keith a b-bender guitar or who turned him on?
what was Ronnie up to, at the time?

hmm - what was Ronnie's phonenumber again?

Re: Ronnie's b-benders
Posted by: Beelyboy ()
Date: March 5, 2006 21:59

x



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Re: Ronnie's b-benders
Posted by: LesPaul ()
Date: March 6, 2006 00:27

if someone can tell me how to post pictures here i could show u a picture of the back a fender tele with removed plates where u can see how the bender works...

Re: Ronnie's b-benders
Posted by: tomk ()
Date: March 6, 2006 01:54

Just go to www.stringbender.com.

Re: Ronnie's b-benders
Posted by: Beelyboy ()
Date: March 6, 2006 04:54

x



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