Every now and then I pick up my acoustic and write chord progressions that have that 70's feel and sound of the stones trying to capture that beggars banquet feel and sound with open tunings and chord walkdowns and hammers.Coming up with
3 chords, a chorus usually inverting the chords and a bridge is not difficult to
do for most of us.Whats hard is the motivation to sit down and write stuff most of the world will never hear.Yes the glimmers did this also with simple chord
progressions and arrangements and were motivated financially to do this because
they were a rock band their chosen career.Looking back did they ever write a great MELODY.Write now I can only think of one YCAGWYW which was a nice chord
progression for the most part.Most of their great melodies were created by either
stones band members or other studio musicians - For example Nicky Hopkins on piano on Angie,or Brian Jones on Rubey Tuesday,or Mick Taylor's guitar lines with all his studio contributions. Keith and MJ were great at writing riffs and simple chord progressions.There melodies IMO were far behind what the Beatles wrote.So if a artist is not motivated to sell alot of records like Mick Taylor then his motivation to record new records is not his chosen path.I think that MT choose to collaborate with artists after he left the stones vs to form a super group which failed when he teamed up with Jack Bruce.Also taylor's herion addiction lasted longer then keith's(not saying it was worser just that he kicked the habbit in the early 90's where keith cleaned up by 1979 of 1980.

Also why write alot of filler songs if they are not good material.Thestones put out alot of filler material since 1981 because they had to put out records and did not write great records along the way.Taylor most likely would only put out
good material he was pleased with because he was not tied down to any record
company demands and deadlines.

So when we compare taylor as a solo artist to a band like the stones you have to
understand the motivation behind someones career path and what they want to do as
a artist or rock band.

I do not think Taylor today would want to join the stones he would be bored but I
can see him doing a guest spot with wyman down the road.

I love you OpenG..... Welcome back & keep the vibrato coming!!!



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Welcome back OpenG!

Good to see the board enriched again with such an indispensable thing as MELODIC WONDERMENT.

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"Music is the frozen tapioca in the ice chest of history."

"Shit!... No shit, awright!"

thanks I had to think long and hard about the whole censorship thing and found out my love of music is more imortant than PETTY arguments and INTERPERTATIONS
of someones THOUGHTS IN SPACE That violate someones true feelings

Aargggggggggggggghhhhhh!

Ban him again , he's a loony

Don't start with chords, start with a MELODY, then fit the chords to it.

good point

Good to see you back, mate

keith always started with a riff or chord progression and jagger sat down and
wrote alot of stuff on acoustic in the early days - the melodies were secondary

You can't analyze the Stones music from a "melodical" point of view.
You miss the point.

It would be like trying to understand Woody Allen through the analysis of his plots!

The stones do not have "melodies" to showcase, the are a groove machine. The chord sequence is just there to allow them to play.

Try and hum any stones song under the shower, impossible (with very few exceptions).

Take most of Some Girls, it's two chords, A and D. The only decent melody in the whole LP is the Miss You riff.

Take all exile. Again almost no melody.

Take Rambler

Nevertheless you will find yourself dancing and stomping your feet ...

Guess why?


C

In a lot Stones' songs, the melody sounds like the chord progression, eg SMU, Happy.

I understand that my point was Taylor's melody or nicky hopkins in the studio or
another guest player sure enriched the groove and thats what I like a combination
of groove and melody.look what taylor did live with the stones.

listen to Dancing With Mr D from brussels as a example.

His bluesy guitar lines sure take the chord progression and riff to another level.it was a great brilliant addition to the band

One of the greatest thing in Stones music is that Mick's singing and melodies are the part of the groove and not just 'there is the music and there is the singer.'

I'm welling up! Is it really you openG????????

Which wembley gig was it your going to?

Long LIve MT and his VIBRATO!!!!!!

hi ablett - do they play wembley at the end of april thats when i am in london
see you at sticky fingers

Welcome back!

hey dp,

your song the opening intro reminds me of walk this way for a brief moment
great song you wrote

Thanks, I can see the similarity, especially the sound and the rhythm.

wow we connected musically - i have a average ear at best playing guitar and listening

This don't make sense man. The Stones.. no great melody's? How low can you get...

Let's see. I get in my car. I'm looking for a cd to drop in the player. What's it going to be? The Greatest Rock n Roll Band in the world or Mick Taylor? Oh, wait a minute, I don't have any Mick Taylor! Things that make your go "Hmmm".

Stones' Melodies: Memory Motel; Fool To Cry; Lady Jane; She's a Rainbow.
I usually agree with you OpenG, but on this one, I'm not sure...

I'm very pleased and happy that our fave member OpenG is back again after having settled a delicate matter with BV.
I'll have some mint julep to celebrate the return of OpenG and future threads on the supremacy of Mick Taylor. The Vibrato lives......

It's great to see you back OpenG although you're still wrong LOL.
I can without trying too hard think of many strong melodies that stand on their own:'Moonlight Mile
Waiting On A Friend
Yesterday's papers
Ride On Baby
Loving Cup (the bridge ALONE)
Hand of Fate
Rocks Off (that is what makes this song so incredibel)
Torn and Frayed
Back Street Girl
She Smiled Sweetly
Angie
Wanna Hold You
Slipping Away

Could go on and on, I think

"...no longer shall you trudge 'cross my peaceful mind."

Not to forget Beast Of Burden!

I haven't even read the topic...welcome back Open!!!!

VIBRATO!!!!!!!!!!

Been boring in here without ya openg!!!!!!!

Great to see your back "ON" the board!!!

Now if only Taylor "guests" with the boys in London!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


MLC

Great to see the Vibrato Squad Captain back again.

And to a certain point, I agree with him, even. The Stones are more about groove and rhythm tahn about melody.

[There'll be no wedding today...]

Great melodies right from the start. For example:
Tell me
As tears go by
Blue turns to grey
Heart of Stone
I'm free
I am waiting
Out of time
Ruby Tuesday