That's official.

1962 - 1993 (1990 for real)

versus

1993-2026

Darryl is an integral part of the Stones live sound nowadays and unfortunately still doesn’t get the recognition he deserves under Stones fans

I like his playing. I liked Bill’s. Hell, I like Ronnie’s bass playing. All underpin the rest of The Stones just fine

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Strange that it is so. I thought Bill left the band in the later years of the Stones. However, they were not even half way yet.

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So, Darryl or Jordan do not even count, but people liek Carlo Little and Tony Chapman do... Rough Justice

- Doxa



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Darryl Jones had a longer tenure with the Stones than Bill

True, but if you deduct the years the Stones were inactive, than Bill still has the more active tenure.

They've never been the same without Mick Avory!

An interesting statistic would be, how many Stones-tracks Bill recorded vs Darryl and also, how many Stones-concerts Bill played vs Darryl.



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They've never been the same without Mick Avory!

Thank goodness!

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They've never been the same without Mick Avory!

Yeah, ever since Avory left the groove hasn't been the same. Charlie was never able to come close to the Avory groove. To me, after Avory left it hasn't been the Stones anymore.

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Darryl Jones had a longer tenure with the Stones than Bill

True, but if you deduct the years the Stones were inactive, than Bill still has the more active tenure.

True, the longer tenure doesn't say anything,
it's the same with James Bond.

Daniel Craig was Bond between 2006 and 2021, so in years he was the longest time James Bond, but he only made 5 movies.

Connery made 6 between 1962-1971 (if you don't count Never say never again 1983)

Sir Roger made even 7 Bondmovies between 1973-1985

My diary was also written over a longer period than Anne Frank's, but hers is still more famous

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They've never been the same without Mick Avory!

Yeah, ever since Avory left the groove hasn't been the same. Charlie was never able to come close to the Avory groove. To me, after Avory left it hasn't been the Stones anymore.

No. The crucial difference and mistake for the Stones losing its potential and credibility was when Brian chose the pop rock boys from Dartford Jagger and Richards over the true blues purists Geoff Bradford and Brian Knight. Knight's singing and harmonica playing was miles above Jagger's pale school boy imitation of the masters and one cannot even talk Keef's Berry stuff in the same page as Bradford's sublime blues guitar playing.

- Doxa

I still don't think Bill was thinking straight when he left the band. They didn't demand too much of him - just turn up and play bass when you're asked to.
In between that a lot of time off, even years. And all the money he said no to...

Darryl...was never a good choice to replace him.

Jordan has been in the band just as long as Taylor now.

Crazy ...

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I still don't think Bill was thinking straight when he left the band. They didn't demand too much of him - just turn up and play bass when you're asked to.
In between that a lot of time off, even years. And all the money he said no to...

Darryl...was never a good choice to replace him.

Twice agree.

Bob Dylan on why Bill Wyman was crucial to The Rolling Stones: “Without him they’re a funk band”:

[faroutmagazine.co.uk]

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I still don't think Bill was thinking straight when he left the band. They didn't demand too much of him - just turn up and play bass when you're asked to.
In between that a lot of time off, even years. And all the money he said no to...

Darryl...was never a good choice to replace him.

Twice agree.

Thrice agree ... but I think the travel also had something to do w/ it, if I recall correctly, something about Bill no longer wanting to fly.

They lost a step when Ian Stewart passed and an even bigger step when Bill left.

I don't think they are the same band without the two of them.

Their best music faded after the band lost them both.

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That's official.

1962 - 1993 (1990 for real)

versus

1993-2026

Bill: 1962 - 1991.

Bill recorded on Highwire and Sex Drive in 1991.

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Strange that it is so. I thought Bill left the band in the later years of the Stones. However, they were not even half way yet.

In terms of studio output that actually mattered, they were basically done. Yes, the live show they did starting in 1989 continued, but they didn't really break any new ground while Daryl was in the band. Not his fault they were already old by the time he joined.

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Strange that it is so. I thought Bill left the band in the later years of the Stones. However, they were not even half way yet.

In terms of studio output that actually mattered, they were basically done. Yes, the live show they did starting in 1989 continued, but they didn't really break any new ground while Daryl was in the band. Not his fault they were already old by the time he joined.

That is an interesting way to look at it - albums. It's a glaring amount of very few in the time line.

Darryl recorded on VOODOO, BRIDGES, although only on You Don't Have To Mean It, Always Suffering and Thief In The Night; BANG and TONGUES. And the odd songs for FORTY LICKS and the two 2012 songs plus Living In A Ghost Town. It's possible he recorded on Mess It Up and Live By The Sword in 2019 but Andrew Watt and Bill Wyman are on those instead - and we'll find out about Hit Me On The Head, which is from 2019 most likely.

That's four albums Darryl has recorded on. Yet the tours, which were way longer than anything Bill did except 1989-90 so 1994 through 2007 and then the shorter tours ever since "take up" the most time but if the number of shows is looked at it's very likely Darryl isn't even to half the amount of shows Bill played - I'm saying that because I don't know, it's just a guess but it seems logical since show dates got really spread out over the years.

Number of years vs. quality output.

Bill Wyman: I Wanna Be Your Man, The Rolling Stones, No.2., Out of Our Heads, (I Can't Get No) Satisfaction, Paint it Black, Aftermath, Between the Buttons, Beggars Banquet, Honky Tonk Women, Let it Bleed, Get Yer Ya-Yas Out, Sticky Fingers, Exile on Main Street, Goats Head Soup, IORR, Black and Blue, Some Girls, Emotional Rescue, Tattoo You, Undercover, Dirty Work, Steel Wheels.

Darryl Jones: Voodoo Lounge, A Bigger Bang, Blue and Lonesome + selected songs from Bridges to Babylon, Hackney Diamonds and the upcoming Foreign Tongoues and various singles such as Living in a Ghost Town and Doom and Gloom.

Choose your pick.

Having said that, I like Darryl. Ulitmately he made The Stones sound a bit more heavy. With Bill it was a bit more loose and dynamic. In terms of studio output, Darryl can't compete. And right now I have Hampton 1981 on the stereo. That is among the best bass performances ever, and it's not wildly recognized but Bill's playing on Just My Imagination and Beast of Burden is legendary. Darryl will never play like that, allthough he is rock solid.

Instrument connoisseurs may debate whether Darryl Jones is technically light-years ahead of Bill Wyman when it comes to striking the notes of a bass guitar. Nobody plays with Miles Davis without being a serious talent. But the duo of Charlie Watts and Bill Wyman is absolutely unbeatable. If The Rolling Stones sounded live like a freight train at full speed, it was because that gifted pair kept the whole thing from derailing. When the Stones really lock in, your whole body comes alive, and the foundation is laid by Bill and Charlie.

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Thrice agree ... but I think the travel also had something to do w/ it, if I recall correctly, something about Bill no longer wanting to fly.

Correct. With likely one exception (qv) he has not flown since the early 1990s. He even drives from the UK to shows in Scandinavia. (Go get an atlas to be impressed by that).

The one exception I'm aware of was a trip to the USA to (probably) promote an album or a book, and in order to overcome his dislike of flying he had to be "poured onto the plane".

An Australian concert tour is rather unlikely.

Captain Corella

Bills bass on Hampton is some of his best bass playing.

Imagination is just sublime. One of my favorites. It's been at the top of my playlist for decades.

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Having said that, I like Darryl. Ulitmately he made The Stones sound a bit more heavy. With Bill it was a bit more loose and dynamic. In terms of studio output, Darryl can't compete. And right now I have Hampton 1981 on the stereo. That is among the best bass performances ever, and it's not wildly recognized but Bill's playing on Just My Imagination and Beast of Burden is legendary. Darryl will never play like that, allthough he is rock solid.

I am sure Bill still has more total working days

Pero Bill fue miembro fundador eso tiene mayor valor.