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A lot of people unfortunately seem to be unable to comprehend that 82 year old men can achieve something.
Whilst we are conditionally taught our whole lives that once people get old, they are useless, we all have a responsibility to fight and challenge those preconceptions. My parents are certainly not useless.
We as fans of this particular band should be the ones championing this unprecedented era that no other fans of any other band have ever experienced.
Yes, they have slowed down and presumably that is why the touring aspect has died down, but ultimately, it's not too difficult to sit in a studio and play guitar etc/write songs (something they have been doing for over sixty years).
There is no reason to think that they are incapable of making a record off their own backs - they just need a little nudge.
Andrew Watt has almost certainly had a big influence/involvement, but so did Jimmy Miller, Don Was, Chris Kimsey, Andrew Loog Oldham etc...
Not that I am saying the original post was saying exactly that, I just think it would be nice if more people were enthusiastically supporting what is currently happening with our favourite band. Imagine being a Beatles fan - 8 years and done, followed by 50 years talking about the same handful of albums.
We have such a unique fandom - no fan of any other band has experienced this, and they are still going!
Long may it continue
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2026-05-22 12:49 by Barkerboy2.
I watched the video this afternoon with a friend, he didn't understand what he was watching. He thought it was an AI-generated parody of the Stones, because aside from Mick (and even then), he didn't recognize Keith or Ronnie.
He said to me, “Ah OK, it’s a fake.” It’s weird—they really look just like them, and why are there 50 people around them? Is it a marching band ?
Sounds made up to me ... why would someone show this to students. Furthermore, 20 year olds could care less if a video was doctored, AI'd, etc. So ALL students had the same opinion?
Did you tell your students it “was supposed” to be a Rolling Stones video or “was” a Rolling Stones video? Based on recent college commencement addresses it seems this sect is threatened by AI?
The single failed to enter the UK Top 100. Despite its physical release, streaming numbers (which account for 80-85% of the chart) were weak and insufficient to boost physical sales.
The single's performance during the week was as follows:
Sunday Midweek (pre-sales and numbers from Friday to Sunday): #36
Monday Midweek (pre-sales and numbers from Friday to Monday): #59
It did not appear on today's final chart, meaning that 90% or more of the total was physical sales, and the lack of streaming kept it out.
In comparison, "Angry" debuted at #34 three years ago with much better sales and streaming numbers: almost 9,000 units, at least double what "In The Stars" accumulated.
This week's #100 track accumulated 4,700 units, so the single "In The Stars" was below that number.
Keith ?
My pre-listening, regardless of listening on Apple, might help with the post-sales? Does that count? Or is it all about Shitify?
I'm not Keith
Maybe because I teach university classes, and sometimes these are small groups with good rapport who know perfectly well that their professor is a fan of the Rolling Stones? And no, it wasn’t the opinion of every single student at a university with thousands of students — just the general impression of a small group of a dozen or so people who happened to attend that particular class.
I had a feeling it'd fair worst than Angry. Still, this simply isn't good enough.
Yes, I do think the album will chart significantly more highly; at least top-5 in the U.K., probably #1, even. I envisage a slightly lower chat placing in the U.S.A., however, though still a top-ten must be a cert.
That's why they're doing a pre-sale of more than 2 months; it's the only powerful market they have left, and they want to make a strong first week.
I think it's a matter of delivering the goods, if something is amazing like Paint It Black it's incredible how many people love the Stones, one of the most watched/played/streamed videos in the world.
But a song has to resonate with people, it needs that ingredient that Keith used to deliver as in Paint It Black / Start Me Up / Love Is Strong etc.
Bullshit videos really don't help, yeah yeah you all say it's not AI but it might aa well be and people are sick of AI in music both young and old.
Lead single from a studio album?
None of the singles from Blue and Lonesome charted, nor did Sweet Sounds of Heaven, but it was the second single.
Original lead single from a studio album, yes, it's the first one.
It's all about timing. Right now, in 2026, the Stones aren't cool for the market. They're an old band, almost inaccessible to the general public. They don't give interviews, they're not in the media, they don't play live, they don't have any real contact with ordinary people, and that's reflected in their sales and streaming numbers.
Who knows what will happen in 5-10 years? 15-20 years ago, Michael Jackson had the worst reputation in the world and was practically canceled, and today, in 2026, he has two albums in the US Top 10, he had a #1 hit in the UK two weeks ago, his songs are in the Top 10 worldwide, and he's almost as popular as he was 30 years ago or more. It's a shame he's not alive to enjoy it.
Re: In The Stars - Track Talk
Yes Michael Jackson was worth a lot more dead than alive, possibly why he was unlived.
You say it's about timing but it's also delivery.
This was a great single, had they released it with a bang of activity exclusively to all on a certain date and performed it live on a couple prime time TV shows, recorded a cool video good and ready for the songs release and did a round of interviews I'm sure In The Stars would have hit the top 10.
They just don't have the energy or inclination to do whats needed now, i agree they are too inaccessible these days, far too much secrecy in everything they do musically. You get this feeling they are always hiding something, saving something, they think people are just itching for them to do something or release something but in actual fact what happens is people lose interest other than a few diehards.
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Re: In The Stars - Track Talk
Posted by:
MadMetaphoricalMax
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Date: May 22, 2026 11:42
"Andrew has most likely finished most of the songs, I'm sure they will be good but is it the Stones at this stage."
That's not ma statement with any foundation of knowledge of any kind.
Denigrating the band's autonomy to the level of puppetry and mimicry is a bit much! An AI hallucination of thought...
Lots of people have helped out and finished bits of for the Stones through their 60 years. I don't see why Andrew, the second significant Andrew of their career, would be any different...
That's not ma statement with any foundation of knowledge of any kind.
Denigrating the band's autonomy to the level of puppetry and mimicry is a bit much! An AI hallucination of thought...
Lots of people have helped out and finished bits of for the Stones through their 60 years. I don't see why Andrew, the second significant Andrew of their career, would be any different...
Re: In The Stars - Track Talk
Posted by:
Barkerboy2
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Date: May 22, 2026 12:47
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MadMetaphoricalMax
"Andrew has most likely finished most of the songs, I'm sure they will be good but is it the Stones at this stage."
That's not ma statement with any foundation of knowledge of any kind.
Denigrating the band's autonomy to the level of puppetry and mimicry is a bit much! An AI hallucination of thought...
Lots of people have helped out and finished bits of for the Stones through their 60 years. I don't see why Andrew, the second significant Andrew of their career, would be any different...
A lot of people unfortunately seem to be unable to comprehend that 82 year old men can achieve something.
Whilst we are conditionally taught our whole lives that once people get old, they are useless, we all have a responsibility to fight and challenge those preconceptions. My parents are certainly not useless.
We as fans of this particular band should be the ones championing this unprecedented era that no other fans of any other band have ever experienced.
Yes, they have slowed down and presumably that is why the touring aspect has died down, but ultimately, it's not too difficult to sit in a studio and play guitar etc/write songs (something they have been doing for over sixty years).
There is no reason to think that they are incapable of making a record off their own backs - they just need a little nudge.
Andrew Watt has almost certainly had a big influence/involvement, but so did Jimmy Miller, Don Was, Chris Kimsey, Andrew Loog Oldham etc...
Not that I am saying the original post was saying exactly that, I just think it would be nice if more people were enthusiastically supporting what is currently happening with our favourite band. Imagine being a Beatles fan - 8 years and done, followed by 50 years talking about the same handful of albums.
We have such a unique fandom - no fan of any other band has experienced this, and they are still going!
Long may it continue
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2026-05-22 12:49 by Barkerboy2.
Re: In The Stars - Track Talk
Posted by:
1fatum
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Date: May 22, 2026 14:34
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Barkerboy2
Whilst I agree with all of the points raised about AI (I also work in Education and see it's damaging effects), let's not forget that this Stones video isn't AI. It's just computer generated imagery. Whilst it could be argued that all AI is computer generated imagery, not all computer generated imagery is AI.
After all, Toy Story wasn't AI.
Re: In The Stars - Track Talk
Posted by:
Irix
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Date: May 22, 2026 17:15
In Germany, 'In The Stars' is #61 in the [OffizielleCharts.de] - (May 22, 2026). Interestingly, Michael Jackson's 1982 tracks reached #5 and #8 in the same [OffizielleCharts.de] .
'In The Stars' midweek position was #17 on May 20, 2026 in Germany - [OffizielleCharts.de] .
For comparison, in 2023 in Germany, 'Angry' peaked at #21 in the [OffizielleCharts.de] and was #13 in the German midweek Singles charts: [iorr.org] .
Chart position of 'Jealous Lover': [iorr.org] .
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'In The Stars' midweek position was #17 on May 20, 2026 in Germany - [OffizielleCharts.de] .
For comparison, in 2023 in Germany, 'Angry' peaked at #21 in the [OffizielleCharts.de] and was #13 in the German midweek Singles charts: [iorr.org] .
Chart position of 'Jealous Lover': [iorr.org] .
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2026-05-23 13:20 by Irix.
Re: In The Stars - Oficial Video
Posted by:
roby
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Date: May 22, 2026 23:23
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bv
I have watched the video once, forcing myself to watch it through, even if it is disgusting, but I will never watch it again.
It is not The Stones. It is Mick Jagger insisting on not growing old. For ages he has been doing the same. At the El Rey promo show in 2001 he hired a bunch of video models. They were placed in the front, nice young girls to talk to, paid $200 each, short, in order not to stand out too much. Security asked us older looking peoople in the attendance to move aside, to let the paid models a third of our age, in their early 20's to the front. The same happened in every promo shooting, like Beacon Theatre, Fonda and so on. Paid short video models, some times even young boys, in their early 20's at the most, paid $200 each to make the Stones fans look young.
Now I understand why Keith looked a bit lost during the press meetings. He just did not approve of any of this. Ronnie had no vote. So Mick got what he wanted.
If it is stand-in's, lookalikes or AI does not matter. It is not the Stones, and it is not their fans.
There is something called "growing old gracefully". Then there is something called desperation. I am sure a psycologist or a social anthropologist will have a better analysis of it.
A bunch, 10+ drummers, same with keyboards and bass players, non looking like Darryl, Steve, Chuck or Matt. Professional dancers. It is not my band. Not my friends in the "crowd". It is a time machine back to the 70's, but I just can not get myself into watch it anymore. It is probably ment for the younger fans.
I will check what my grandchildren think. They have seen the Stones live, they might have an opinion on this video.
I watched the video this afternoon with a friend, he didn't understand what he was watching. He thought it was an AI-generated parody of the Stones, because aside from Mick (and even then), he didn't recognize Keith or Ronnie.
He said to me, “Ah OK, it’s a fake.” It’s weird—they really look just like them, and why are there 50 people around them? Is it a marching band ?
Re: In The Stars - Track Talk
Posted by:
PiotrRSpl
()
Date: May 23, 2026 01:32
I have shown this video to my students — people in their 20s. I didn’t tell them anything beforehand, apart from the fact that it was supposed to be a The Rolling Stones video. The majority felt it was fake rather than official, something made with AI, and said it felt weird and a bit disgusting to realize it was actually a song recorded by old guys. I really have no clue who they thought this would amuse. What a missed opportunity.
On a positive note, I enjoy playing the vinyl single of the song. It sounds better to my ears than the streaming version.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2026-05-23 01:34 by PiotrRSpl.
On a positive note, I enjoy playing the vinyl single of the song. It sounds better to my ears than the streaming version.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2026-05-23 01:34 by PiotrRSpl.
Re: In The Stars - Track Talk
Posted by:
LeonidP
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Date: May 23, 2026 02:22
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PiotrRSpl
I have shown this video to my students — people in their 20s. I didn’t tell them anything beforehand, apart from the fact that it was supposed to be a The Rolling Stones video. The majority felt it was fake rather than official, something made with AI, and said it felt weird and a bit disgusting to realize it was actually a song recorded by old guys. I really have no clue who they thought this would amuse. What a missed opportunity.
On a positive note, I enjoy playing the vinyl single of the song. It sounds better to my ears than the streaming version.
Sounds made up to me ... why would someone show this to students. Furthermore, 20 year olds could care less if a video was doctored, AI'd, etc. So ALL students had the same opinion?
Re: In The Stars - Track Talk
Posted by:
Maindefender
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Date: May 23, 2026 02:26
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PiotrRSpl
I have shown this video to my students — people in their 20s. I didn’t tell them anything beforehand, apart from the fact that it was supposed to be a The Rolling Stones video. The majority felt it was fake rather than official, something made with AI, and said it felt weird and a bit disgusting to realize it was actually a song recorded by old guys. I really have no clue who they thought this would amuse. What a missed opportunity.
On a positive note, I enjoy playing the vinyl single of the song. It sounds better to my ears than the streaming version.
Did you tell your students it “was supposed” to be a Rolling Stones video or “was” a Rolling Stones video? Based on recent college commencement addresses it seems this sect is threatened by AI?
Re: In The Stars - Track Talk
Posted by:
georgelicks
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Date: May 23, 2026 03:07
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Irix
In Germany, 'In The Stars' is #61 in the [OffizielleCharts.de] - (May 22, 2026). Interestingly, Michael Jackson's 1982 tracks reached #5 and #8 in the same [OffizielleCharts.de] .
The single failed to enter the UK Top 100. Despite its physical release, streaming numbers (which account for 80-85% of the chart) were weak and insufficient to boost physical sales.
The single's performance during the week was as follows:
Sunday Midweek (pre-sales and numbers from Friday to Sunday): #36
Monday Midweek (pre-sales and numbers from Friday to Monday): #59
It did not appear on today's final chart, meaning that 90% or more of the total was physical sales, and the lack of streaming kept it out.
In comparison, "Angry" debuted at #34 three years ago with much better sales and streaming numbers: almost 9,000 units, at least double what "In The Stars" accumulated.
This week's #100 track accumulated 4,700 units, so the single "In The Stars" was below that number.
Re: In The Stars - Track Talk
Posted by:
onestep
()
Date: May 23, 2026 05:14
Everyone talks business and sales of a track, and I understand that is what is important. I do know personally, I love the single, it gets better everytime I hear it, I blast it while I drive hundreds of miles up the East Coast of the USA on my spotify -- it's great. To me it sounds like The Rolling Stones -- heck I remember when Some Girls was new, and I had the cassette-- we blasted it in the parking lots after work -- there would be 10 of us after the restaurant we worked in closed --- a similar feeling like -- what is this Shattered song -- Miss You --disco ?
The video, I also think its great, if it gives some viewers the feeling of what The Stones were as a band -- like if they had recorded the song during the early 70's -- it could fit right in there --- My first Rolling Stones album was Let It Bleed -- when it was released -- The Rolling Stones were/are awesome -- powerful -- and if they want to experiment with making themselves look as vibrant as the song sounds -- just to show us they can be as good as ever -- well that's alright with me. No whining here man--no whining -- More power to them-- I love them.
The video, I also think its great, if it gives some viewers the feeling of what The Stones were as a band -- like if they had recorded the song during the early 70's -- it could fit right in there --- My first Rolling Stones album was Let It Bleed -- when it was released -- The Rolling Stones were/are awesome -- powerful -- and if they want to experiment with making themselves look as vibrant as the song sounds -- just to show us they can be as good as ever -- well that's alright with me. No whining here man--no whining -- More power to them-- I love them.
Re: In The Stars - Track Talk
Posted by:
GasLightStreet
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Date: May 23, 2026 08:10
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keefriffhards
Mick ?
Keith ?
Re: In The Stars - Track Talk
Posted by:
GasLightStreet
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Date: May 23, 2026 08:25
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georgelicksQuote
Irix
In Germany, 'In The Stars' is #61 in the [OffizielleCharts.de] - (May 22, 2026). Interestingly, Michael Jackson's 1982 tracks reached #5 and #8 in the same [OffizielleCharts.de] .
The single failed to enter the UK Top 100. Despite its physical release, streaming numbers (which account for 80-85% of the chart) were weak and insufficient to boost physical sales.
The single's performance during the week was as follows:
Sunday Midweek (pre-sales and numbers from Friday to Sunday): #36
Monday Midweek (pre-sales and numbers from Friday to Monday): #59
It did not appear on today's final chart, meaning that 90% or more of the total was physical sales, and the lack of streaming kept it out.
In comparison, "Angry" debuted at #34 three years ago with much better sales and streaming numbers: almost 9,000 units, at least double what "In The Stars" accumulated.
This week's #100 track accumulated 4,700 units, so the single "In The Stars" was below that number.
My pre-listening, regardless of listening on Apple, might help with the post-sales? Does that count? Or is it all about Shitify?
Re: In The Stars - Track Talk
Posted by:
keefriffhards
()
Date: May 23, 2026 10:18
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GasLightStreetQuote
keefriffhards
Mick ?
Keith ?
I'm not Keith
Re: In The Stars - Track Talk
Posted by:
PiotrRSpl
()
Date: May 23, 2026 10:29
Quote
LeonidP
Sounds made up to me ... why would someone show this to students.
Maybe because I teach university classes, and sometimes these are small groups with good rapport who know perfectly well that their professor is a fan of the Rolling Stones? And no, it wasn’t the opinion of every single student at a university with thousands of students — just the general impression of a small group of a dozen or so people who happened to attend that particular class.
Re: In The Stars - Track Talk
Posted by:
keefriffhards
()
Date: May 23, 2026 10:42
So in catering to the young, trying their hardest to appeal to the young and trying to look young the single is a complete flop, i hope this sends a message to the Stones, serves them right.
I hope they actually play in the next video as a band, no AI ,just the Stones making all the cool moves as 82 year olds, now that's amazing, 82 year olds playing rock. That's what everyone respects including young people. Young people detect old people trying to be young at a 100 paces, it's patronising and fake, they see through it.
I hope they actually play in the next video as a band, no AI ,just the Stones making all the cool moves as 82 year olds, now that's amazing, 82 year olds playing rock. That's what everyone respects including young people. Young people detect old people trying to be young at a 100 paces, it's patronising and fake, they see through it.
Re: In The Stars - Track Talk
Posted by:
Big Al
()
Date: May 23, 2026 11:12
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georgelicksQuote
Irix
In Germany, 'In The Stars' is #61 in the [OffizielleCharts.de] - (May 22, 2026). Interestingly, Michael Jackson's 1982 tracks reached #5 and #8 in the same [OffizielleCharts.de] .
The single failed to enter the UK Top 100. Despite its physical release, streaming numbers (which account for 80-85% of the chart) were weak and insufficient to boost physical sales.
The single's performance during the week was as follows:
Sunday Midweek (pre-sales and numbers from Friday to Sunday): #36
Monday Midweek (pre-sales and numbers from Friday to Monday): #59
It did not appear on today's final chart, meaning that 90% or more of the total was physical sales, and the lack of streaming kept it out.
In comparison, "Angry" debuted at #34 three years ago with much better sales and streaming numbers: almost 9,000 units, at least double what "In The Stars" accumulated.
This week's #100 track accumulated 4,700 units, so the single "In The Stars" was below that number.
I had a feeling it'd fair worst than Angry. Still, this simply isn't good enough.
Re: In The Stars - Track Talk
Posted by:
NilsHolgersson
()
Date: May 23, 2026 11:18
I think they are more of an album band than a singles band. Their fan base is old and no longer has the strength to buy a single, and the radio stations do not find this an interesting target group to advertise to. But the album will sell well: then Stones fans will go to the shops and buy the album en masse for themselves or for their older family member.
Re: In The Stars - Track Talk
Posted by:
Big Al
()
Date: May 23, 2026 11:29
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NilsHolgersson
I think they are more of an album band than a singles band. Their fan base is old and no longer has the strength to buy a single, and the radio stations do not find this an interesting target group to advertise to. But the album will sell well: then Stones fans will go to the shops and buy the album en masse for themselves or for their older family member.
Yes, I do think the album will chart significantly more highly; at least top-5 in the U.K., probably #1, even. I envisage a slightly lower chat placing in the U.S.A., however, though still a top-ten must be a cert.
Re: In The Stars - Track Talk
Posted by:
georgelicks
()
Date: May 23, 2026 12:15
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Big AlQuote
NilsHolgersson
I think they are more of an album band than a singles band. Their fan base is old and no longer has the strength to buy a single, and the radio stations do not find this an interesting target group to advertise to. But the album will sell well: then Stones fans will go to the shops and buy the album en masse for themselves or for their older family member.
Yes, I do think the album will chart significantly more highly; at least top-5 in the U.K., probably #1, even. I envisage a slightly lower chat placing in the U.S.A., however, though still a top-ten must be a cert.
That's why they're doing a pre-sale of more than 2 months; it's the only powerful market they have left, and they want to make a strong first week.
Re: In The Stars - Track Talk
Posted by:
Big Al
()
Date: May 23, 2026 12:25
90% of the sales being 'physical' seems utterly ridiculous, considering the colossal popularity of the major streaming platforms. So, were the only one's to purchase the 'physical release', those here and from Rocks Off and Shidoobie?
Is this he first Stones single to 'not chart' in the U.K.?
Is this he first Stones single to 'not chart' in the U.K.?
Re: In The Stars - Track Talk
Posted by:
StonedRambler
()
Date: May 23, 2026 12:35
The Stones are not in the best position to release singles since
1) Their fan base is old and prefers physical releases to streaming
2) Most fans do not care buying a physical single knowing the album comes out soon that the single is on anyway
The album might have a better change entering a good position at the charts.
1) Their fan base is old and prefers physical releases to streaming
2) Most fans do not care buying a physical single knowing the album comes out soon that the single is on anyway
The album might have a better change entering a good position at the charts.
Re: In The Stars - Track Talk
Posted by:
keefriffhards
()
Date: May 23, 2026 13:14
Quote
StonedRambler
The Stones are not in the best position to release singles since
1) Their fan base is old and prefers physical releases to streaming
2) Most fans do not care buying a physical single knowing the album comes out soon that the single is on anyway
The album might have a better change entering a good position at the charts.
I think it's a matter of delivering the goods, if something is amazing like Paint It Black it's incredible how many people love the Stones, one of the most watched/played/streamed videos in the world.
But a song has to resonate with people, it needs that ingredient that Keith used to deliver as in Paint It Black / Start Me Up / Love Is Strong etc.
Bullshit videos really don't help, yeah yeah you all say it's not AI but it might aa well be and people are sick of AI in music both young and old.
Re: In The Stars - Track Talk
Posted by:
MadMetaphoricalMax
()
Date: May 23, 2026 13:29
Old dudes ripping it up in the studio was and is a much better look.
Proper 'authentic' and really fun and warming.
Still can't bring myself to finish off watching the de-aged thing.
Album cover still a thing of genius, one of their most striking.
Proper 'authentic' and really fun and warming.
Still can't bring myself to finish off watching the de-aged thing.
Album cover still a thing of genius, one of their most striking.
Re: In The Stars - Track Talk
Posted by:
rollmops
()
Date: May 23, 2026 14:38
I love the video. It is artistic, creative, edgy, using the possibilities and new technology available now. It is the Rolling Stones looking forward, going west...
Only death will stop them. Go on Rolling Stones, keep having fun!
Only death will stop them. Go on Rolling Stones, keep having fun!
Re: In The Stars - Track Talk
Posted by:
jumpingjackflash5
()
Date: May 23, 2026 15:49
Well, maybe if Exile on Main Street would be released today it also would not reach high position in the charts. And maybe we would discuss that Just wanna see his face uses strange telephone voice, and shine a light is a very rough version with tired singer.
What is a bit sadder is that marketing and overall communication with fans is weak.
What is a bit sadder is that marketing and overall communication with fans is weak.
Re: In The Stars - Track Talk
Posted by:
georgelicks
()
Date: May 23, 2026 16:11
Quote
Big Al
90% of the sales being 'physical' seems utterly ridiculous, considering the colossal popularity of the major streaming platforms. So, were the only one's to purchase the 'physical release', those here and from Rocks Off and Shidoobie?
Is this he first Stones single to 'not chart' in the U.K.?
Lead single from a studio album?
None of the singles from Blue and Lonesome charted, nor did Sweet Sounds of Heaven, but it was the second single.
Original lead single from a studio album, yes, it's the first one.
Re: In The Stars - Track Talk
Posted by:
georgelicks
()
Date: May 23, 2026 16:19
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keefriffhardsQuote
StonedRambler
The Stones are not in the best position to release singles since
1) Their fan base is old and prefers physical releases to streaming
2) Most fans do not care buying a physical single knowing the album comes out soon that the single is on anyway
The album might have a better change entering a good position at the charts.
I think it's a matter of delivering the goods, if something is amazing like Paint It Black it's incredible how many people love the Stones, one of the most watched/played/streamed videos in the world.
But a song has to resonate with people, it needs that ingredient that Keith used to deliver as in Paint It Black / Start Me Up / Love Is Strong etc.
Bullshit videos really don't help, yeah yeah you all say it's not AI but it might aa well be and people are sick of AI in music both young and old.
It's all about timing. Right now, in 2026, the Stones aren't cool for the market. They're an old band, almost inaccessible to the general public. They don't give interviews, they're not in the media, they don't play live, they don't have any real contact with ordinary people, and that's reflected in their sales and streaming numbers.
Who knows what will happen in 5-10 years? 15-20 years ago, Michael Jackson had the worst reputation in the world and was practically canceled, and today, in 2026, he has two albums in the US Top 10, he had a #1 hit in the UK two weeks ago, his songs are in the Top 10 worldwide, and he's almost as popular as he was 30 years ago or more. It's a shame he's not alive to enjoy it.
Re: In The Stars - Track Talk Posted by:
1fatum
()
Date: May 23, 2026 16:40
It's great that I like the song and the video more or less and I don't have to worry about what's wrong with it.
Re: In The Stars - Track Talk
Posted by:
keefriffhards
()
Date: May 23, 2026 17:50
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georgelicksQuote
keefriffhardsQuote
StonedRambler
The Stones are not in the best position to release singles since
1) Their fan base is old and prefers physical releases to streaming
2) Most fans do not care buying a physical single knowing the album comes out soon that the single is on anyway
The album might have a better change entering a good position at the charts.
I think it's a matter of delivering the goods, if something is amazing like Paint It Black it's incredible how many people love the Stones, one of the most watched/played/streamed videos in the world.
But a song has to resonate with people, it needs that ingredient that Keith used to deliver as in Paint It Black / Start Me Up / Love Is Strong etc.
Bullshit videos really don't help, yeah yeah you all say it's not AI but it might aa well be and people are sick of AI in music both young and old.
It's all about timing. Right now, in 2026, the Stones aren't cool for the market. They're an old band, almost inaccessible to the general public. They don't give interviews, they're not in the media, they don't play live, they don't have any real contact with ordinary people, and that's reflected in their sales and streaming numbers.
Who knows what will happen in 5-10 years? 15-20 years ago, Michael Jackson had the worst reputation in the world and was practically canceled, and today, in 2026, he has two albums in the US Top 10, he had a #1 hit in the UK two weeks ago, his songs are in the Top 10 worldwide, and he's almost as popular as he was 30 years ago or more. It's a shame he's not alive to enjoy it.
Yes Michael Jackson was worth a lot more dead than alive, possibly why he was unlived.
You say it's about timing but it's also delivery.
This was a great single, had they released it with a bang of activity exclusively to all on a certain date and performed it live on a couple prime time TV shows, recorded a cool video good and ready for the songs release and did a round of interviews I'm sure In The Stars would have hit the top 10.
They just don't have the energy or inclination to do whats needed now, i agree they are too inaccessible these days, far too much secrecy in everything they do musically. You get this feeling they are always hiding something, saving something, they think people are just itching for them to do something or release something but in actual fact what happens is people lose interest other than a few diehards.
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