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Great breakdown.
UK Midweek:
[www.officialcharts.com]
"Finally, The Rolling Stones latest single In The Stars from their upcoming album Foreign Tongues, may break the main standings following the release of the track’s music video (#36)."
Final chart comes out next Friday, Angry debuted at #34 on the UK chart, Sweet Sounds Of Heaven didm't make the Top 100.
congrats you just wrote an infinitely less boring video
please get your proposal to the stones as soon as possible so they can start scouting talent at senior care facilities and local bingo nights at the community center
but seriously it seems to me if they leaned into there age and the age of there fanbase like your described above in an over the top parody of reality they would come off as more cool and authentic to the younger generations there trying to attract
Ethel. Now she knew how to fake a Stones video
It's just a video, I hardly doubt the Stones at this age think they are going to attrack a younger audience. No youth is really ever going to see the video, pretty sure they are aware of that.
Oh, and as another pointed out ... LOOK AT THE COVER of the upcoming album!!
Is it their intent to attrack a younger audience?
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2026-05-18 04:02 by LeonidP.
i'm sorry but to me attracting gen z is very clearly the point of the video
Yer post got me to thinking exact opposite... a bunch of babies bouncing around. Get that next generation!
I don't think Gen-Z is really that interested in this. A few classic rock enthusiasts perhaps. You can't compare an AI video from old artists to artists like Billie Eilish, Sabrina Carpenter and Olivia Rodrigo who have a large social media presence and who are still in the prime of their youth just like Gen-Z themselves.
i agree with you
To me the point of the video and the album cover is pure provocation and to get Media attention (Stones go AI) and when you're looking here at IORR it works. You read angry messages and even conspiracy theories. I personally looked at the video once and it's okay. But as the Stones don't participate I'll probably never watch it again. But I love the discussions around it. And I love the song.
I see this often on this forum: the idea of attracting a younger audience. In my observation, most young people don't give a "hoot" about the Rolling Stones or "that kind of music". Actually, even most of my friends, in the range 45 - 60, have zero interest (or even knowledge) in what the Stones are doing. If it's not electronic, or rap music, it's alternative rock (and the Stones have long ceased to be alternative) or grunge/indie from the 90s and later.
But even if the Stones *do* want to attract a younger crowd, the stupidest thing they could do is make videos like Angry or In The Stars.
There's nothing more off-putting than old men pretending to be young and it's even worse when there's the suggestion of sex with much younger girls. I would think it's obvious that that is off-putting. (And I say off-putting but I could use stronger words.) Bill Wyman didn't win any favours, to say the least.
I know some people think it's "rock n roll" to be loud, obnoxious and demeaning.
I think rock n roll, the original rock n roll, meant being proud of what and who you are, stand up for yourself and be authentic. Rock n roll would be to show people of 50 years and older, dancing, being sexy, and having fun. It might even attract a younger audience.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2026-05-18 12:01 by matxil.
Yeah! Probably, there are lots of takes of the songs.
The Facebook snippet in advance of the new video has Jagger on acoustic doing the Oooooo’s very casually like a demo take. At the time I mentioned it brought to mind Stuck Out All Along which had Oooooo’s
Yes, and Black or White also had a music video with cutting-edge technology at the time (faces that morph into each other)
So to confer what you actually want from the Stones is more of the Stones that isn't real.
What's the point of the Stones at all if you want full tilt fakery Stones.
Talk about your favorite band.
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Re: In The Stars - Track Talk
Posted by:
Idorh
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Date: May 17, 2026 17:30
I'll take the middle ground. Many Stones fans around the world are around 50. We’ll buy Stones merchandise anyway. They don’t need to advertise that. This is clearly aimed at the new, younger generation. I think it’s a fun video—there’s a lot to see—and a great song. It’ll all be amazing in 2026. It’s incredible that we can discuss this here every day. And it’s only the beginning.
Re: In The Stars - Track Talk
Posted by:
NilsHolgersson
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Date: May 17, 2026 17:43
I think I would have liked the AI Stones better if they had done it with a song like Criss Cross or Scarlet, because that's an old song, made when the Stones looked like they did in 1973. But now it doesn't quite fit because the Stones back then would never have made In the Stars.
Re: In The Stars - Track Talk
Posted by:
Stoneage
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Date: May 17, 2026 17:47
If you're 50 you are the younger generation. The core Stones fans are 65 and older. The audience they, and their record company, are looking for is generation Z though.
That means the age between 15 and 30. In other words the children or grandchildren of the core fans.
That means the age between 15 and 30. In other words the children or grandchildren of the core fans.
Re: In The Stars - Track Talk
Posted by:
NilsHolgersson
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Date: May 17, 2026 17:49
How is the song doing in the charts for you? In the Netherlands I see it is at number 23 on the tip parade, which is actually number 63 in total because the top 40 is still above it.
Re: In The Stars - Oficial Video
Posted by:
slewan
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Date: May 17, 2026 18:52
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It's a video, folks. Mick hasn't done tons of plastic surgery, he's out there all the time, people see his wrinkles, etc. He's not trying to hide something here.
A little startled by the amount of scorn heaped on this video. It's high energy, fits the groove of the tune, and this "hate" seems centred on the fact that they've deep faked their faces on "look-a-likes" bodies.
Really, who cares? This isn't some plot, we know the deal. We go to a concert and we see who they are. Or in all the interviews they've just done. Even in all the early segments they released, the first version of the video, it's them. They aren't trying to hide something, or "get away" with something.
Look at the damn new album cover.
It'll be one and done, there won't be another video where they do this. They had some fun with it, you like it or you don't but it doesn't define the end of an era, "Keith now isolated from the band", or "Jagger refusing to grow old".
These are ridiculous assertions. I doubt very much that when the boys went drag in HYSYMBSITS, the pundits in the day going crazy over them revealing their transgender nature. They were up for a bit of fun, and it's no different here.
Or when Keith shoots Mick in Undercover that something nefarious was being communicated.
I guess I have to applaud them that in their 7th decade they're still able to generate "controversy".
I find all this quite amusing and if Mick was behind the idea for deepfaking their faces in their promo video, mission accomplished.
Agree, it's just nuts the over-analysis of this thing. It has nothing to do w/ the song, & if they were trying to hide their age, why are they on Fallon or whatever other shows they are doing?
"...in their 7th decade they're still able to generate "controversy" ..."
Well they are not even generating 'controversy' , it's being generated by a few 'fans' that are trying to make way more out of it than it is.
As someone else mentioned ... they weren't really trying to make people think they were actually giants, like was depicted in the Love Is Strong video.
Could you imagine the "alternate" version of this video, where we have the crowd as a bunch of baby boomers with walkers and canes swaying from side to side, attempting to dance, maybe falling, huddled in a bathroom taking drugs (statins and blood pressure meds, shooting up ozempic) and Mick the only person in the room capable of actual movement?
yes
In The Stars - Track Talk
Posted by:
bye bye johnny
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Date: May 17, 2026 19:18
Justin Sosa offers his take on the latest "Hang Fire" podcast
Re: In The Stars - Track Talk
Posted by:
treaclefingers
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Date: May 17, 2026 19:30
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bye bye johnny
Justin Sosa offers his take on the latest "Hang Fire" podcast
Great breakdown.
Re: In The Stars - Track Talk
Posted by:
frankotero
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Date: May 17, 2026 20:24
Always appreciated the opinions/thoughts of Justin Sousa. Cool guy.
Re: In The Stars - Track Talk
Posted by:
georgelicks
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Date: May 17, 2026 21:39
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How is the song doing in the charts for you?
UK Midweek:
[www.officialcharts.com]
"Finally, The Rolling Stones latest single In The Stars from their upcoming album Foreign Tongues, may break the main standings following the release of the track’s music video (#36)."
Final chart comes out next Friday, Angry debuted at #34 on the UK chart, Sweet Sounds Of Heaven didm't make the Top 100.
Re: In The Stars - Oficial Video
Posted by:
ProfessorWolf
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Date: May 17, 2026 22:24
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It's a video, folks. Mick hasn't done tons of plastic surgery, he's out there all the time, people see his wrinkles, etc. He's not trying to hide something here.
A little startled by the amount of scorn heaped on this video. It's high energy, fits the groove of the tune, and this "hate" seems centred on the fact that they've deep faked their faces on "look-a-likes" bodies.
Really, who cares? This isn't some plot, we know the deal. We go to a concert and we see who they are. Or in all the interviews they've just done. Even in all the early segments they released, the first version of the video, it's them. They aren't trying to hide something, or "get away" with something.
Look at the damn new album cover.
It'll be one and done, there won't be another video where they do this. They had some fun with it, you like it or you don't but it doesn't define the end of an era, "Keith now isolated from the band", or "Jagger refusing to grow old".
These are ridiculous assertions. I doubt very much that when the boys went drag in HYSYMBSITS, the pundits in the day going crazy over them revealing their transgender nature. They were up for a bit of fun, and it's no different here.
Or when Keith shoots Mick in Undercover that something nefarious was being communicated.
I guess I have to applaud them that in their 7th decade they're still able to generate "controversy".
I find all this quite amusing and if Mick was behind the idea for deepfaking their faces in their promo video, mission accomplished.
Agree, it's just nuts the over-analysis of this thing. It has nothing to do w/ the song, & if they were trying to hide their age, why are they on Fallon or whatever other shows they are doing?
"...in their 7th decade they're still able to generate "controversy" ..."
Well they are not even generating 'controversy' , it's being generated by a few 'fans' that are trying to make way more out of it than it is.
As someone else mentioned ... they weren't really trying to make people think they were actually giants, like was depicted in the Love Is Strong video.
Could you imagine the "alternate" version of this video, where we have the crowd as a bunch of baby boomers with walkers and canes swaying from side to side, attempting to dance, maybe falling, huddled in a bathroom taking drugs (statins and blood pressure meds, shooting up ozempic) and Mick the only person in the room capable of actual movement?
It would certainly be more "true", but that would have been a lot more "startling" in my opinion.
congrats you just wrote an infinitely less boring video
please get your proposal to the stones as soon as possible so they can start scouting talent at senior care facilities and local bingo nights at the community center
but seriously it seems to me if they leaned into there age and the age of there fanbase like your described above in an over the top parody of reality they would come off as more cool and authentic to the younger generations there trying to attract
Re: In The Stars - Track Talk
Posted by:
donvis
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Date: May 17, 2026 23:19
What happened to the separate thread on the video?
Re: In The Stars - Track Talk
Posted by:
donvis
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Date: May 17, 2026 23:23
Never mind, I see it was merged.
Re: In The Stars - Oficial Video
Posted by:
Munichhilton
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Date: May 18, 2026 00:15
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They look way too healthy in this AI version…they should be a bit more gaunt
Zactly, like my Gaunt Ethel.
Ethel. Now she knew how to fake a Stones video
Re: In The Stars - Oficial Video
Posted by:
LeonidP
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Date: May 18, 2026 03:55
JC, again, back to the Giant sized Stones in Love Is Strong ... they weren't trying to portray themselves as Giants and they weren't trying to attrack an audience of Giants.Quote
ProfessorWolf
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but seriously it seems to me if they leaned into there age and the age of there fanbase like your described above in an over the top parody of reality they would come off as more cool and authentic to the younger generations there trying to attract
It's just a video, I hardly doubt the Stones at this age think they are going to attrack a younger audience. No youth is really ever going to see the video, pretty sure they are aware of that.
Oh, and as another pointed out ... LOOK AT THE COVER of the upcoming album!!
Is it their intent to attrack a younger audience?
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Re: In The Stars - Oficial Video
Posted by:
ProfessorWolf
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Date: May 18, 2026 04:18
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LeonidPJC, again, back to the Giant sized Stones in Love Is Strong ... they weren't trying to portray themselves as Giants and they weren't trying to attrack an audience of Giants.Quote
ProfessorWolf
...
but seriously it seems to me if they leaned into there age and the age of there fanbase like your described above in an over the top parody of reality they would come off as more cool and authentic to the younger generations there trying to attract
It's just a video, I hardly doubt the Stones at this age think they are going to attrack a younger audience. No youth is really ever going to see the video, pretty sure they are aware of that.
Oh, and as another pointed out ... LOOK AT THE COVER of the upcoming album!!
Is it their intent to attrack a younger audience?
i'm sorry but to me attracting gen z is very clearly the point of the video
Re: In The Stars - Oficial Video
Posted by:
josepi
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Date: May 18, 2026 05:24
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treaclefingers
Could you imagine the "alternate" version of this video, where we have the crowd as a bunch of baby boomers with walkers and canes swaying from side to side, attempting to dance, maybe falling, huddled in a bathroom taking drugs (statins and blood pressure meds, shooting up ozempic) and Mick the only person in the room capable of actual movement?
Yer post got me to thinking exact opposite... a bunch of babies bouncing around. Get that next generation!
Re: In The Stars - Oficial Video
Posted by:
NilsHolgersson
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Date: May 18, 2026 09:23
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ProfessorWolfQuote
LeonidPJC, again, back to the Giant sized Stones in Love Is Strong ... they weren't trying to portray themselves as Giants and they weren't trying to attrack an audience of Giants.Quote
ProfessorWolf
...
but seriously it seems to me if they leaned into there age and the age of there fanbase like your described above in an over the top parody of reality they would come off as more cool and authentic to the younger generations there trying to attract
It's just a video, I hardly doubt the Stones at this age think they are going to attrack a younger audience. No youth is really ever going to see the video, pretty sure they are aware of that.
Oh, and as another pointed out ... LOOK AT THE COVER of the upcoming album!!
Is it their intent to attrack a younger audience?
i'm sorry but to me attracting gen z is very clearly the point of the video
I don't think Gen-Z is really that interested in this. A few classic rock enthusiasts perhaps. You can't compare an AI video from old artists to artists like Billie Eilish, Sabrina Carpenter and Olivia Rodrigo who have a large social media presence and who are still in the prime of their youth just like Gen-Z themselves.
Re: In The Stars - Oficial Video
Posted by:
ProfessorWolf
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Date: May 18, 2026 10:59
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LeonidPJC, again, back to the Giant sized Stones in Love Is Strong ... they weren't trying to portray themselves as Giants and they weren't trying to attrack an audience of Giants.Quote
ProfessorWolf
...
but seriously it seems to me if they leaned into there age and the age of there fanbase like your described above in an over the top parody of reality they would come off as more cool and authentic to the younger generations there trying to attract
It's just a video, I hardly doubt the Stones at this age think they are going to attrack a younger audience. No youth is really ever going to see the video, pretty sure they are aware of that.
Oh, and as another pointed out ... LOOK AT THE COVER of the upcoming album!!
Is it their intent to attrack a younger audience?
i'm sorry but to me attracting gen z is very clearly the point of the video
I don't think Gen-Z is really that interested in this. A few classic rock enthusiasts perhaps. You can't compare an AI video from old artists to artists like Billie Eilish, Sabrina Carpenter and Olivia Rodrigo who have a large social media presence and who are still in the prime of their youth just like Gen-Z themselves.
i agree with you
Re: In The Stars - Oficial Video
Posted by:
hockenheim95
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Date: May 18, 2026 11:37
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ProfessorWolfQuote
LeonidPJC, again, back to the Giant sized Stones in Love Is Strong ... they weren't trying to portray themselves as Giants and they weren't trying to attrack an audience of Giants.Quote
ProfessorWolf
...
but seriously it seems to me if they leaned into there age and the age of there fanbase like your described above in an over the top parody of reality they would come off as more cool and authentic to the younger generations there trying to attract
It's just a video, I hardly doubt the Stones at this age think they are going to attrack a younger audience. No youth is really ever going to see the video, pretty sure they are aware of that.
Oh, and as another pointed out ... LOOK AT THE COVER of the upcoming album!!
Is it their intent to attrack a younger audience?
i'm sorry but to me attracting gen z is very clearly the point of the video
To me the point of the video and the album cover is pure provocation and to get Media attention (Stones go AI) and when you're looking here at IORR it works. You read angry messages and even conspiracy theories. I personally looked at the video once and it's okay. But as the Stones don't participate I'll probably never watch it again. But I love the discussions around it. And I love the song.
Re: In The Stars - Track Talk
Posted by:
matxil
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Date: May 18, 2026 11:59
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Idorh
I'll take the middle ground. Many Stones fans around the world are around 50. We’ll buy Stones merchandise anyway. They don’t need to advertise that. This is clearly aimed at the new, younger generation. I think it’s a fun video—there’s a lot to see—and a great song. It’ll all be amazing in 2026. It’s incredible that we can discuss this here every day. And it’s only the beginning.
I see this often on this forum: the idea of attracting a younger audience. In my observation, most young people don't give a "hoot" about the Rolling Stones or "that kind of music". Actually, even most of my friends, in the range 45 - 60, have zero interest (or even knowledge) in what the Stones are doing. If it's not electronic, or rap music, it's alternative rock (and the Stones have long ceased to be alternative) or grunge/indie from the 90s and later.
But even if the Stones *do* want to attract a younger crowd, the stupidest thing they could do is make videos like Angry or In The Stars.
There's nothing more off-putting than old men pretending to be young and it's even worse when there's the suggestion of sex with much younger girls. I would think it's obvious that that is off-putting. (And I say off-putting but I could use stronger words.) Bill Wyman didn't win any favours, to say the least.
I know some people think it's "rock n roll" to be loud, obnoxious and demeaning.
I think rock n roll, the original rock n roll, meant being proud of what and who you are, stand up for yourself and be authentic. Rock n roll would be to show people of 50 years and older, dancing, being sexy, and having fun. It might even attract a younger audience.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2026-05-18 12:01 by matxil.
Re: In The Stars - Track Talk
Posted by:
Idorh
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Date: May 18, 2026 12:16
As I mentioned before, I think it’s a fun video—there’s a lot to discover in it. And they’re trying to attract a younger audience. I’m not sure if they’ll succeed, though. I agree with you—they could have just done it with their current look.
Re: In The Stars - Oficial Video
Posted by:
DandelionPowderman
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Date: May 18, 2026 13:35
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What I find strange about Hackney Diamonds is that you don't really have different takes of a song, like you always did with the Stones. You have 1 perfectly mixed song and that's it. No demos or takes that go wrong or anything.
How do you know?
Yeah! Probably, there are lots of takes of the songs.
Re: In The Stars - Track Talk
Posted by:
Rip This
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Date: May 18, 2026 13:48
btw...I love the AI video....shows the Stones influence...every video artist, R & R band emulates their style...and yet here they are in a 70's vibe video being the original bad boys of rock and showing the way....whats not to like?...
Re: In The Stars - Track Talk
Posted by:
keefriffhards
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Date: May 18, 2026 14:52
I was just thinking, could this be a way for Mick to remain relevant and draw in more millions as he gets into old age.
He's putting out music and videos that make his age and looks irrelevant, he can keep this going for another 20 years because he's in such good mental and physical health.
Mick in the video is timeless, ageless, Keith on the other hand is phased out, it's a murky fuzzy symbol of Keith, just an expression,
you can't hear his voice, his supposed guitar sound is not coming from the Keith figure.
I'm curious as to Keith's input in this video, I'm thinking Zero.
Would have been nice to see Keith playing away in a video with him making real Keith moves.
I don't actually think this video complements the song at all, i prefer listening to it without the video.
He's putting out music and videos that make his age and looks irrelevant, he can keep this going for another 20 years because he's in such good mental and physical health.
Mick in the video is timeless, ageless, Keith on the other hand is phased out, it's a murky fuzzy symbol of Keith, just an expression,
you can't hear his voice, his supposed guitar sound is not coming from the Keith figure.
I'm curious as to Keith's input in this video, I'm thinking Zero.
Would have been nice to see Keith playing away in a video with him making real Keith moves.
I don't actually think this video complements the song at all, i prefer listening to it without the video.
Re: In The Stars - Track Talk
Posted by:
PalaisRoyale
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Date: May 18, 2026 16:03
The podcast review is spot on regarding the In The Stars video. The AI use is more an interpretation of the Stones with glimpses of how they looked. The youthful images of Jagger are not always the best as his jaw lines and famous lips are not always accurate in the video, appearing thinned out at times. There are much better representations of youthful Stones AI on other platform apps capturing the Exile era. I think they dabbled in the use of the technology but should have went full tilt, similar to the the moving classic images in the Angry video but with "Brand new" young stones footage.
Re: In The Stars - Oficial Video
Posted by:
Maindefender
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Date: May 18, 2026 16:56
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DandelionPowdermanQuote
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NilsHolgersson
What I find strange about Hackney Diamonds is that you don't really have different takes of a song, like you always did with the Stones. You have 1 perfectly mixed song and that's it. No demos or takes that go wrong or anything.
How do you know?
Yeah! Probably, there are lots of takes of the songs.
The Facebook snippet in advance of the new video has Jagger on acoustic doing the Oooooo’s very casually like a demo take. At the time I mentioned it brought to mind Stuck Out All Along which had Oooooo’s
Re: In The Stars - Track Talk
Posted by:
angee
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Date: May 18, 2026 16:58
Getting back to the song, for a moment, anyway, does anyone else hear anmusical phrase that sounds like the beginning of Michael Jackson's "Black or White"?
~"Love is Strong"~
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~"Love is Strong"~
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Re: In The Stars - Track Talk
Posted by:
NilsHolgersson
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Date: May 18, 2026 17:37
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angee
Getting back to the song, for a moment, anyway, does anyone else hear anmusical phrase that sounds like the beginning of Michael Jackson's "Black or White"?
Yes, and Black or White also had a music video with cutting-edge technology at the time (faces that morph into each other)
Re: In The Stars - Track Talk
Posted by:
keefriffhards
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Date: May 18, 2026 18:40
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PalaisRoyale
The podcast review is spot on regarding the In The Stars video. The AI use is more an interpretation of the Stones with glimpses of how they looked. The youthful images of Jagger are not always the best as his jaw lines and famous lips are not always accurate in the video, appearing thinned out at times. There are much better representations of youthful Stones AI on other platform apps capturing the Exile era. I think they dabbled in the use of the technology but should have went full tilt, similar to the the moving classic images in the Angry video but with "Brand new" young stones footage.
So to confer what you actually want from the Stones is more of the Stones that isn't real.
What's the point of the Stones at all if you want full tilt fakery Stones.
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