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bv
I have watched the video once, forcing myself to watch it through, even if it is disgusting, but I will never watch it again.
It is not The Stones. It is Mick Jagger insisting on not growing old. For ages he has been doing the same. At the El Rey promo show in 2001 he hired a bunch of video models. They were placed in the front, nice young girls to talk to, paid $200 each, short, in order not to stand out too much. Security asked us older looking peoople in the attendance to move aside, to let the paid models a third of our age, in their early 20's to the front. The same happened in every promo shooting, like Beacon Theatre, Fonda and so on. Paid short video models, some times even young boys, in their early 20's at the most, paid $200 each to make the Stones fans look young.
Now I understand why Keith looked a bit lost during the press meetings. He just did not approve of any of this. Ronnie had no vote. So Mick got what he wanted.
If it is stand-in's, lookalikes or AI does not matter. It is not the Stones, and it is not their fans.
There is something called "growing old gracefully". Then there is something called desperation. I am sure a psycologist or a social anthropologist will have a better analysis of it.
A bunch, 10+ drummers, same with keyboards and bass players, non looking like Darryl, Steve, Chuck or Matt. Professional dancers. It is not my band. Not my friends in the "crowd". It is a time machine back to the 70's, but I just can not get myself into watch it anymore. It is probably ment for the younger fans.
I will check what my grandchildren think. They have seen the Stones live, they might have an opinion on this video.
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bv
I have watched the video once, forcing myself to watch it through, even if it is disgusting, but I will never watch it again.
It is not The Stones. It is Mick Jagger insisting on not growing old. For ages he has been doing the same. At the El Rey promo show in 2001 he hired a bunch of video models. They were placed in the front, nice young girls to talk to, paid $200 each, short, in order not to stand out too much. Security asked us older looking peoople in the attendance to move aside, to let the paid models a third of our age, in their early 20's to the front. The same happened in every promo shooting, like Beacon Theatre, Fonda and so on. Paid short video models, some times even young boys, in their early 20's at the most, paid $200 each to make the Stones fans look young.
Now I understand why Keith looked a bit lost during the press meetings. He just did not approve of any of this. Ronnie had no vote. So Mick got what he wanted.
If it is stand-in's, lookalikes or AI does not matter. It is not the Stones, and it is not their fans.
There is something called "growing old gracefully". Then there is something called desperation. I am sure a psycologist or a social anthropologist will have a better analysis of it.
A bunch, 10+ drummers, same with keyboards and bass players, non looking like Darryl, Steve, Chuck or Matt. Professional dancers. It is not my band. Not my friends in the "crowd". It is a time machine back to the 70's, but I just can not get myself into watch it anymore. It is probably ment for the younger fans.
I will check what my grandchildren think. They have seen the Stones live, they might have an opinion on this video.
I MAY be wrong as I certainly don’t have time to read everything on IORR, but this is the first time I’ve ever read BV so overly, totally critical of The Stones.
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All I know is I can’t get this song out of my head, and that’s with very limited listening. So they went to LA for a month and banged out 10 new songs organically I have to believe by today’s standards. One month!! Who’s the creative force behind this? Has to be Jagger, I can’t see my beloved Keith standing at a console like he did in 1969 listening to Brown Sugar giving his nod of approval. Not that he didn’t enjoyed the 30 days of artistry.
My family and friends have moved on from the Stones nobody that I know outside this forum gives a rat’s ass. Lol but I feel blessed to still have this group active they have really never left me and me them.
I have other many musical interests but nothing compares at the end of the day.
Sometimes Jagger needs to give us a “boop” on the nose with his ground up partially fingerless mannequin hand. A loving boop to brighten our day
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Disagree, not so much Mick's creative force now, more likely down to the Wizard Andrew. I'd love to know what tricks he's using, something doesn't ring true since Angry.
You got virtually nothing from Mick for 18 years and then.
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Maindefender
All I know is I can’t get this song out of my head, and that’s with very limited listening. So they went to LA for a month and banged out 10 new songs organically I have to believe by today’s standards. One month!! Who’s the creative force behind this? Has to be Jagger, I can’t see my beloved Keith standing at a console like he did in 1969 listening to Brown Sugar giving his nod of approval. Not that he didn’t enjoyed the 30 days of artistry.
My family and friends have moved on from the Stones nobody that I know outside this forum gives a rat’s ass. Lol but I feel blessed to still have this group active they have really never left me and me them.
I have other many musical interests but nothing compares at the end of the day.
Sometimes Jagger needs to give us a “boop” on the nose with his ground up partially fingerless mannequin hand. A loving boop to brighten our day
Disagree, not so much Mick's creative force now, more likely down to the Wizard Andrew. I'd love to know what tricks he's using, something doesn't ring true since Angry.
You got virtually nothing from Mick for 18 years and then.
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bv
I have watched the video once, forcing myself to watch it through, even if it is disgusting, but I will never watch it again.
It is not The Stones. It is Mick Jagger insisting on not growing old. For ages he has been doing the same. At the El Rey promo show in 2001 he hired a bunch of video models. They were placed in the front, nice young girls to talk to, paid $200 each, short, in order not to stand out too much. Security asked us older looking peoople in the attendance to move aside, to let the paid models a third of our age, in their early 20's to the front. The same happened in every promo shooting, like Beacon Theatre, Fonda and so on. Paid short video models, some times even young boys, in their early 20's at the most, paid $200 each to make the Stones fans look young.
Now I understand why Keith looked a bit lost during the press meetings. He just did not approve of any of this. Ronnie had no vote. So Mick got what he wanted.
If it is stand-in's, lookalikes or AI does not matter. It is not the Stones, and it is not their fans.
There is something called "growing old gracefully". Then there is something called desperation. I am sure a psycologist or a social anthropologist will have a better analysis of it.
A bunch, 10+ drummers, same with keyboards and bass players, non looking like Darryl, Steve, Chuck or Matt. Professional dancers. It is not my band. Not my friends in the "crowd". It is a time machine back to the 70's, but I just can not get myself into watch it anymore. It is probably ment for the younger fans.
I will check what my grandchildren think. They have seen the Stones live, they might have an opinion on this video.

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Disagree, not so much Mick's creative force now, more likely down to the Wizard Andrew. I'd love to know what tricks he's using, something doesn't ring true since Angry.
You got virtually nothing from Mick for 18 years and then.
That they are nearing the end of the line must have helped them with motivation. And having someone like Andrew that gets tracks ready without endless recordings and mixings for sure helped. What an excellent taskmaster, whipping all these old sods into action and young artists too!. Is he too fast for his own good, certain things require time ? Does he use tricks, sure...if the end justifies the means, would he even tell his clients ? Like a Doctor, surgeon, wizard as you wrote.
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Maindefender
All I know is I can’t get this song out of my head, and that’s with very limited listening. So they went to LA for a month and banged out 10 new songs organically I have to believe by today’s standards. One month!! Who’s the creative force behind this? Has to be Jagger, I can’t see my beloved Keith standing at a console like he did in 1969 listening to Brown Sugar giving his nod of approval. Not that he didn’t enjoyed the 30 days of artistry.
My family and friends have moved on from the Stones nobody that I know outside this forum gives a rat’s ass. Lol but I feel blessed to still have this group active they have really never left me and me them.
I have other many musical interests but nothing compares at the end of the day.
Sometimes Jagger needs to give us a “boop” on the nose with his ground up partially fingerless mannequin hand. A loving boop to brighten our day
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Elmo Lewis
I apologize here, but I love the song and video. I also like The Rolling Stones.
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NilsHolgersson
What I find strange about Hackney Diamonds is that you don't really have different takes of a song, like you always did with the Stones. You have 1 perfectly mixed song and that's it. No demos or takes that go wrong or anything.
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LeonidP
It's a video, folks. Mick hasn't done tons of plastic surgery, he's out there all the time, people see his wrinkles, etc. He's not trying to hide something here.
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Munichhilton
They look way too healthy in this AI version…they should be a bit more gaunt
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LeonidP
It's a video, folks. Mick hasn't done tons of plastic surgery, he's out there all the time, people see his wrinkles, etc. He's not trying to hide something here.
A little startled by the amount of scorn heaped on this video. It's high energy, fits the groove of the tune, and this "hate" seems centred on the fact that they've deep faked their faces on "look-a-likes" bodies.
Really, who cares? This isn't some plot, we know the deal. We go to a concert and we see who they are. Or in all the interviews they've just done. Even in all the early segments they released, the first version of the video, it's them. They aren't trying to hide something, or "get away" with something.
Look at the damn new album cover.
It'll be one and done, there won't be another video where they do this. They had some fun with it, you like it or you don't but it doesn't define the end of an era, "Keith now isolated from the band", or "Jagger refusing to grow old".
These are ridiculous assertions. I doubt very much that when the boys went drag in HYSYMBSITS, the pundits in the day going crazy over them revealing their transgender nature. They were up for a bit of fun, and it's no different here.
Or when Keith shoots Mick in Undercover that something nefarious was being communicated.
I guess I have to applaud them that in their 7th decade they're still able to generate "controversy".
I find all this quite amusing and if Mick was behind the idea for deepfaking their faces in their promo video, mission accomplished.
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LeonidP
It's a video, folks. Mick hasn't done tons of plastic surgery, he's out there all the time, people see his wrinkles, etc. He's not trying to hide something here.
A little startled by the amount of scorn heaped on this video. It's high energy, fits the groove of the tune, and this "hate" seems centred on the fact that they've deep faked their faces on "look-a-likes" bodies.
Really, who cares? This isn't some plot, we know the deal. We go to a concert and we see who they are. Or in all the interviews they've just done. Even in all the early segments they released, the first version of the video, it's them. They aren't trying to hide something, or "get away" with something.
Look at the damn new album cover.
It'll be one and done, there won't be another video where they do this. They had some fun with it, you like it or you don't but it doesn't define the end of an era, "Keith now isolated from the band", or "Jagger refusing to grow old".
These are ridiculous assertions. I doubt very much that when the boys went drag in HYSYMBSITS, the pundits in the day going crazy over them revealing their transgender nature. They were up for a bit of fun, and it's no different here.
Or when Keith shoots Mick in Undercover that something nefarious was being communicated.
I guess I have to applaud them that in their 7th decade they're still able to generate "controversy".
I find all this quite amusing and if Mick was behind the idea for deepfaking their faces in their promo video, mission accomplished.
Agree, it's just nuts the over-analysis of this thing. It has nothing to do w/ the song, & if they were trying to hide their age, why are they on Fallon or whatever other shows they are doing?
"...in their 7th decade they're still able to generate "controversy" ..."
Well they are not even generating 'controversy' , it's being generated by a few 'fans' that are trying to make way more out of it than it is.
As someone else mentioned ... they weren't really trying to make people think they were actually giants, like was depicted in the Love Is Strong video.