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Sorry but the remix sucks...

99.9975% of all remixes suck, but somehow you were expecting a good one?

Agreed. However why the hell is that? Surely they're not sitting around going, let's make a remix that's WAY worse than the original...

As odd as that seems, I'm pretty sure that is exactly what they say. And 99.9975% of the time, they accomplish that feat!

A miracle happened with the Jeff Bhasker remix of Doom And Gloom, though

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A miracle happened with the Jeff Bhasker remix of Doom And Gloom, though

…and Miss You

I can bear the remixes as longs as they keep the idea of the song intact (example, Miss You 12" disco) ... it's the record scratching and/or vocal stop-&-go hiccupping (or whatever it's called) that I find irritating, and think they only did that to add b-sides when no other songs were available/finished at those times.

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I can bear the remixes as longs as they keep the idea of the song intact (example, Miss You 12" disco) ... it's the record scratching and/or vocal stop-&-go hiccupping (or whatever it's called) that I find irritating, and think they only did that to add b-sides when no other songs were available/finished at those times.

I think that the remix done on the 12" version of "Miss You" is a totally different concept to the nonsense that happens these days. It extends the song rather than overwhelms it with an imposed beat.

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I can bear the remixes as longs as they keep the idea of the song intact (example, Miss You 12" disco) ... it's the record scratching and/or vocal stop-&-go hiccupping (or whatever it's called) that I find irritating, and think they only did that to add b-sides when no other songs were available/finished at those times.

I think that the remix done on the 12" version of "Miss You" is a totally different concept to the nonsense that happens these days. It extends the song rather than overwhelms it with an imposed beat.

Miss You was the first Stones "remix" and was "extended" because it's closer to the original recording's running time just slightly rearrange. It was given another go in 2002.

A true remix ie using what was recorded.

I haven't looked into who had the first "remix" or "extended remix" or whatever cultural aspect one wants to call it but for the Stones it was Miss You. They didn't do it again until Undercover Of The Night, Feel On Baby and Too Much Blood. Then Harlem Shuffle got two, One Hit got one and Winning Ugly, for some reason, got one, then Mixed Emotions.

Rock And A Hard Place was the first single to not only have a true remix but the "club" remix/remixes. Terrifying had two true remixes.

After that most singles except the ballads got various club remixes. Love Is Strong had several "club remixes", with the Bob Clearmountain single remix single being the true remix but not extended ala Miss You. You Got Me Rocking is nothing but various club remixes. I Go Wild had the Scott Litt remix but it's not extended ala Miss You.

Anybody Seen My Baby is all club remixes. Out Of Tears had two edited single remixes. Out Of Control had several remixes but the Danny Saber Final Mix is the closest to a true remix, all the rest are the long noisy club remixes.

Don't Stop has the rock remix - it's a true remix. Doom And Gloom had that goofy drum beating remix. One More Shot had a remix that's barely noticeable.

Rain Fall Down had a few club remixes, most of which I have found interesting.

Living In A Ghost Town had the Alok club remix that's not so clubby, it's inventive. The Mess It Up remix isn't stupid.

In The Stars remix is not any different than the Rock And A Hard Place, You Got Me Rocking, Anybody Seen My Baby and Saint Of Me club remixes - crazy noises and beats. There's nothing desirable about it as a fan of true remixes but in some loud noisy club, sure, it has enough going on in it to know it's In The Stars just like a majority of the previous various club remixes.

Just by listening to the LP version there's not any room in the song, with exception to a lot of editing, to do an extended remix compared to Miss You, UOTN, TMB, Harlem Shuffle or One Hit.

Just as with Mess It Up maybe Jealous Lover will have the single remix but the video will be the LP version.

Why do we care about remixes?
That's just for the electronic dance music world, isn't it? I don't think it has any relation to what makes the Stones music special. It's just "house" (I am probably using the wrong word here because I never got into it) and it doesn't really matter if they use snippets from the Stones, ABBA or Julio Iglesias. In the end it all comes down to the same monotonous beat and some other basic tricks.

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Miss You, Dance (the instrumental promo single), Undercover, Feel On Baby, Harlem Shuffle and Doom And Gloom all had great remixes, imo.

I liked the Jeff Bhasker remix of Doom And Gloom better than the (very) dry Grrr-version.

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Miss You, Dance (the instrumental promo single), Undercover, Feel On Baby, Harlem Shuffle and Doom And Gloom all had great remixes, imo.

I liked the Jeff Bhasker remix of Doom And Gloom better than the (very) dry Grrr-version.

Same here. Fun thing is then it comes to some of the Stones songs with actual potential of remixes they make it slower, remove the dance vibe and minimize the chorus. Don’t know why!

I don’t consider the extended version of Miss You to be a remix. It’s just a longer version of the song. For me, a remix is when someone other than the Stones takes a great Stones song and f*@#s it all up. Someone gave me a CD once of nothing but a bunch of Sympathy for the Devil remixes. I listened to it one time. It was horrible.

Understanding that I don’t get out much, today was the first time I heard In the Stars somewhere. It was at the gym. They play different music genres on different days. I don’t know what the genre was today because ITS was the only song I paid attention to. It was interesting because I heard “One” and immediately thought “that’s Mick” before he even got to “two”.

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I don’t consider the extended version of Miss You to be a remix. It’s just a longer version of the song. For me, a remix is when someone other than the Stones takes a great Stones song and f*@#s it all up. Someone gave me a CD once of nothing but a bunch of Sympathy for the Devil remixes. I listened to it one time. It was horrible.

Before my prior posting I checked Martin Elliot's book and it's shown there as a remix. I was surprised as I'd always thought it was a longer session and other releases were cut down versions of the long session.

The best ever release of SFTD is the surround sound muti track SACD version.

I do have an album by Laibach that is ONLY really strange versions (by them) of SFTD and it's wonderful. IMHO of course.

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In The Stars sounds great as a promo song for the World Cup. Brilliant marketing

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I don’t consider the extended version of Miss You to be a remix. It’s just a longer version of the song. For me, a remix is when someone other than the Stones takes a great Stones song and f*@#s it all up.

Miss You in 1978 and 2002 was a remix in the truest sense, regardless of what you think. A ton of edits made with ABC up, EFG down, spliced, looped, various vocals included, including other verses not on the single or LP version.

Different.

The 1978 remix is nothing like the actual recording, which was 9 minutes long. It's different.

The club/house "remixes" are not the true remixes.

Almost here you sigh, had a great remix. And so did before they make me run.

I like the Out of Control deep dish remix.

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The song has got radio spin now. Not a frequent spin, but a spin. I kind of like it. I still have a feeling HD and FT are "Mick albums" where Keith's role is to add a licks here and there apart from coming up with the usual slow ballad.
In "Stars" the guitars sound very much generic, it sounds like the Stones doing Stones music sort of. My guess is keith only added a lick here and there. It's a good enough song though.

Mick's singing style? I must admit it's not a favorite of mine anymore these days. The lyrics are fine though. The days of provoking lyrics is history I guess. You can't call them rebels anymore.
They don't rebel against anything except, maybe, getting old...



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The song has got radio spin now. Not a frequent spin, but a spin. I kind of like it. I still has a feeling HD and FT are "Mick albums" where Keith's role is to add a licks here and there apart from coming up with the usual slow ballad.
In "Stars" the guitars sound very much generic, it sounds like the Stones doing Stones music sort of. My guess is keith only added a lick here and there. It's a good enough song though.

Mick's singing style? I must admit it's not a favorite of mine anymore these days. The lyrics are fine though. The days of provoking lyrics is history I guess. You can't call them rebels anymore.
They don't rebel against anything except, maybe, getting old...

Not this time, though

How do we know "Some Of Us" is not a "slow ballad" ? Because it's deemed to be a rework of the old "Some Of Us On Our Knees" ? That was one was pretty slow actually !

EDIT - so just saw in another post it was confirmed to be that old track, need to read the article about it now.

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The song has got radio spin now. Not a frequent spin, but a spin. I kind of like it. I still have a feeling HD and FT are "Mick albums" where Keith's role is to add a licks here and there apart from coming up with the usual slow ballad.
In "Stars" the guitars sound very much generic, it sounds like the Stones doing Stones music sort of. My guess is keith only added a lick here and there.

Keith is there from the beginning to the last note.

I’m intrigued with the use of In The Stars as music montage for Fox’s commercial lead in to upcoming matches. Lyrically the song has nothing to do with the World Cup but the chorus is perfectly setup for this slot.

So when was this agreed upon with the powers that be? Cudos to whoever had the foresight to get it done….



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Lyrically the song has nothing to do with the World Cup

Isn’t it "In The Stars" which World Cup team will end up as champion?

The melody is great

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Lyrically the song has nothing to do with the World Cup

Isn’t it "In The Stars" which World Cup team will end up as champion?

LOL yeah! Even AI can't say anything. Although why people think AI could predict a winner is hilarious - AI doesn't invent, it only interprets.

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Sorry but the remix sucks...

99.9975% of all remixes suck, but somehow you were expecting a good one?

Agreed. However why the hell is that? Surely they're not sitting around going, let's make a remix that's WAY worse than the original...

As odd as that seems, I'm pretty sure that is exactly what they say. And 99.9975% of the time, they accomplish that feat!

Haha missed this. Good one Leonid.

After more than a month, the song finally enters the Top 50 of the Billboard Rock & Alternative Airplay at #46, surely helped by the WC remix.

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Considering In The Stars to be the best single since... Start Me Up.

In regard to immediacy of if you know you know it's the Stones.

Compare previous first singles between 1981-2026 - a single between Start Me Up and In The Stars:

Undercover Of The Night
Harlem Shuffle
Mixed Emotions
Love Is Strong
Anybody Seen My Baby
Don't Stop
Rough Justice
Doom And Gloom
Just Your Fool
Living In A Ghost Town
Angry

What had an immediate signifier that said 'Oh it's The Rolling Stones'? Undercover Of The Night did. Don't Stop did. Doom And Gloom did.

Distinctive.

The rest were 'it needs to get going'.



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Angry?

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Angry?

Oops.

Added it.

Mick's voice? Ehhhhh.... same could be said about Highwire so...

No.