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Re: The Cockroaches single sold out - New Stones album "Foreign Tongues" due out July 10
Posted by: HalfNanker ()
Date: April 15, 2026 19:12

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lenurb
Hello
I do not want to be rude but everything of this is our fault. Rarity, exclusive tickets or event or whatever is due to the stupid fans we are.
Hey, what about the general stressful crisis to win tickets ? And « win » is certainly not the good word according to the price we pay. Imagine how many lucky dip tickets for 1 show ? Probably less than the cockroaches LP.
Before internet, you had to queue personnaly in front a store to score a Nice paper ticket. Now argentina comes in Paris, and be sure of my full respect for argentina fans.
The only way to stop this kind of stupid story is to stop participating to.
At the end of the day, it is a rich people problem.
Now, honestly, i tried to score on, in Lyon France. Not me, my son because i am travelling, i am in Budapest, no copy at all in Hungaria…
One of the gps point close to my home is a very small village with absolutely no music Shop. The gps point shown a dance school !!! And the phone number given is « non affected ».
Sad sad sad but i do not miss anything.

Ive never had a problem getting LD tix, and since they are based on the unsold tickets for an event, i dont have a problem with how they are handled or the seats ive eneded up with (granted ive gotten pit 2x and 100 section another) .

Re: The Cockroaches single sold out - New Stones album "Foreign Tongues" due out July 10
Posted by: Maindefender ()
Date: April 15, 2026 19:14

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Bashlets
I’m very curious how this album will be. This track is a killer for stones fanatics but is clearly not the single. when are we hearing Mr Charm? Part of me has a queasy feeling this could be the other song they did with Sir Paul

You’re not alone, according to Georgelicks the first single is a “very catchy pop- rock song”. Please let it be better than Mess it Up…..got to trust these guys lol

Re: The Cockroaches single sold out - New Stones album "Foreign Tongues" due out July 10
Posted by: PikesPeak ()
Date: April 15, 2026 19:29

I applaud the petition!
If the band released the track on Spotify and other platforms the next day?
I think that would have quelled the uproar.

Toronto, a city of 3 million people, got a cheesedick 12 copies!
The store was in a part of the city that is awful to get to.
Parking is a nightmare.
Standing in line to MAYBE get a copy?

I'm recovering from surgery, travelling, waiting in line was not an option for me.
I did call, offer to buy one, I offered a premium to the clerk and pay for shipping.
She tried but was unable to help. I understand the store's reasoning, but I'm disappointed all the same.

I hope the petition is successful.

Yes, BV, you're entitled to your opinion!

Re: The Cockroaches single sold out - New Stones album "Foreign Tongues" due out July 10
Posted by: NashvilleBlues ()
Date: April 15, 2026 19:34

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HalfNanker
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lenurb
Hello
I do not want to be rude but everything of this is our fault. Rarity, exclusive tickets or event or whatever is due to the stupid fans we are.
Hey, what about the general stressful crisis to win tickets ? And « win » is certainly not the good word according to the price we pay. Imagine how many lucky dip tickets for 1 show ? Probably less than the cockroaches LP.
Before internet, you had to queue personnaly in front a store to score a Nice paper ticket. Now argentina comes in Paris, and be sure of my full respect for argentina fans.
The only way to stop this kind of stupid story is to stop participating to.
At the end of the day, it is a rich people problem.
Now, honestly, i tried to score on, in Lyon France. Not me, my son because i am travelling, i am in Budapest, no copy at all in Hungaria…
One of the gps point close to my home is a very small village with absolutely no music Shop. The gps point shown a dance school !!! And the phone number given is « non affected ».
Sad sad sad but i do not miss anything.

Ive never had a problem getting LD tix, and since they are based on the unsold tickets for an event, i dont have a problem with how they are handled or the seats ive eneded up with (granted ive gotten pit 2x and 100 section another) .

LDs for the last tour were way more difficult than the US tour before that. It took almost an hour of trying to finally get 2 (Atlanta). Did you try for LDs in 2024?

Re: The Cockroaches single sold out - New Stones album "Foreign Tongues" due out July 10
Posted by: bitusa2012 ()
Date: April 15, 2026 19:34

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PikesPeak
I applaud the petition!
If the band released the track on Spotify and other platforms the next day?
I think that would have quelled the uproar.

Toronto, a city of 3 million people, got a cheesedick 12 copies!
The store was in a part of the city that is awful to get to.
Parking is a nightmare.
Standing in line to MAYBE get a copy?

I'm recovering from surgery, travelling, waiting in line was not an option for me.
I did call, offer to buy one, I offered a premium to the clerk and pay for shipping.
She tried but was unable to help. I understand the store's reasoning, but I'm disappointed all the same.

I hope the petition is successful.

Yes, BV, you're entitled to your opinion!

WHAT uproar? The 100, 200? or so people on IORR? That’s an uproar? Sorry, I can’t get this uproar thing. But sorry you missed out.

Rod

Re: The Cockroaches single sold out - New Stones album "Foreign Tongues" due out July 10
Posted by: Something B.B. ()
Date: April 15, 2026 19:48

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Something B.B.
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forest73
La numérotation est assez bizarre
Vannes : n 4 de vendu
Quimper: n 149 de vendu
La France aurait eu 150 exemplaires
sur 1000
Cela me paraît difficile


Hello Gégé ;-)


Congratulations on snagging a copy in Quimper!

There were only 50 copies available for the 20 selected French record stores. Some major cities were completely overlooked in favor of smaller towns... you needed luck in terms of location as well as speed.

Only Gibert in Paris had 6 copies; the others had between 1 and 3 copies max.

Something B.B.

50 makes more sense than 150, so all stores had at least 2 copies it seems ? Do you know how many Montepllier had, if any ?


In Montpellier, the record was sold by Ground Zero: 2 copies sold.

The last independent retailer to receive their copies only got them on Tuesday morning.

All French record stores were identified by the "players" with varying degrees of speed.

Re: The Cockroaches single sold out - New Stones album "Foreign Tongues" due out July 10
Posted by: sf37 ()
Date: April 15, 2026 20:08

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Maindefender
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Bashlets
I’m very curious how this album will be. This track is a killer for stones fanatics but is clearly not the single. when are we hearing Mr Charm? Part of me has a queasy feeling this could be the other song they did with Sir Paul

You’re not alone, according to Georgelicks the first single is a “very catchy pop- rock song”. Please let it be better than Mess it Up…..got to trust these guys lol

There have been two other possible track titles that have been named in passing, but we yet know nothing about: “Laser Jukebox” and “Money”. Perhaps one of these could be the anticipated pop-rock single? Particularly if "Mr. Charm" is a ballad, as rumoured....

As for "Mess It Up", I didn't mind it but I actually preferred its demo version, "Really Wanna Tell The Truth". Was hoping at the time for that original version to be on Hackney Diamonds.

Ride like the wind at double speed.....



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Re: The Cockroaches single sold out - New Stones album "Foreign Tongues" due out July 10
Posted by: MickDaseway ()
Date: April 15, 2026 20:57

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PikesPeak
I applaud the petition!
If the band released the track on Spotify and other platforms the next day?
I think that would have quelled the uproar.

Toronto, a city of 3 million people, got a cheesedick 12 copies!
The store was in a part of the city that is awful to get to.
Parking is a nightmare.
Standing in line to MAYBE get a copy?

I'm recovering from surgery, travelling, waiting in line was not an option for me.
I did call, offer to buy one, I offered a premium to the clerk and pay for shipping.
She tried but was unable to help. I understand the store's reasoning, but I'm disappointed all the same.

I hope the petition is successful.

Yes, BV, you're entitled to your opinion!

Toronto 12 copies - 3 million people - POLAND 30 million people 7 copies one store....
I drove 250 km...16th in the queue, I lost..



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2026-04-15 20:58 by MickDaseway.

Re: The Cockroaches single sold out - New Stones album "Foreign Tongues" due out July 10
Posted by: StonesSmeth99 ()
Date: April 15, 2026 21:16

Looking back, the marketing has worked.

Hopefully when we all get the album, we won’t immediately jump to the ‘there’s too much Mick’, the ‘production is too modern, wish it was like Exile’, ‘posh chords’ pronouncements… still sounding great in 2026…

Another month (probably) to single and full announcement time (can do it all again..)



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Re: The Cockroaches single sold out - New Stones album "Foreign Tongues" due out July 10
Posted by: skytrench ()
Date: April 15, 2026 21:20

lol, yeah there's still time to fix it grinning smiley

Re: The Cockroaches single sold out - New Stones album "Foreign Tongues" due out July 10
Posted by: The Worst. ()
Date: April 15, 2026 21:37

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StonesSmeth99
Looking back, the marketing has worked.

Not really. 99,999% have no clue whatsoever that The Rolling Stones have actually released a new single, and even if they read about it somewhere they don't care cause they can't even hear it. This marketing campaign only intrigued hardcore super fans, no one else would spend their time figuring out the meaning of Natchez and 1.41. Compare this with Hackney Diamonds, where they had an actual press conference with Mick, Keith, and Ronnie present and the release of a new single with a killer video. Angry has got about 50 million plays both on Youtube and Spotify. At the moment, Rough and Twisted has got zero plays for obvious reasons. In terms of marketing I don't think this has generated any excitment among non-fans. It was a marketing stunt that only hit super fans, and it ended up annoying them while the general public didn't take any notice at all.

Re: The Cockroaches single sold out - New Stones album "Foreign Tongues" due out July 10
Posted by: StonesSmeth99 ()
Date: April 15, 2026 21:45

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The Worst.
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StonesSmeth99
Looking back, the marketing has worked.

Not really. 99,999% have no clue whatsoever that The Rolling Stones have actually released a new single, and even if they read about it somewhere they don't care cause they can't even hear it. This marketing campaign only intrigued hardcore super fans, no one else would spend their time figuring out the meaning of Natchez and 1.41. Compare this with Hackney Diamonds, where they had an actual press conference with Mick, Keith, and Ronnie present and the release of a new single with a killer video. Angry has got about 50 million plays both on Youtube and Spotify. At the moment, Rough and Twisted has got zero plays for obvious reasons. In terms of marketing I don't think this has generated any excitment among non-fans. It was a marketing stunt that only hit super fans, and it ended up annoying them while the general public didn't take any notice at all.

The big launch is still to come.
Thousands will now be aware that something is coming soon

Re: The Cockroaches single sold out - New Stones album "Foreign Tongues" due out July 10
Posted by: The Worst. ()
Date: April 15, 2026 21:54

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StonesSmeth99
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The Worst.
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StonesSmeth99
Looking back, the marketing has worked.

Not really. 99,999% have no clue whatsoever that The Rolling Stones have actually released a new single, and even if they read about it somewhere they don't care cause they can't even hear it. This marketing campaign only intrigued hardcore super fans, no one else would spend their time figuring out the meaning of Natchez and 1.41. Compare this with Hackney Diamonds, where they had an actual press conference with Mick, Keith, and Ronnie present and the release of a new single with a killer video. Angry has got about 50 million plays both on Youtube and Spotify. At the moment, Rough and Twisted has got zero plays for obvious reasons. In terms of marketing I don't think this has generated any excitment among non-fans. It was a marketing stunt that only hit super fans, and it ended up annoying them while the general public didn't take any notice at all.

The big launch is still to come.
Thousands will now be aware that something is coming soon

Yes, dedicated fans are aware something is coming soon, but most pople don't. If the goal was to have as many people as possible aware (which is the point of marketing, I believe), they should have done the cockroach thing + make the single available for the rest of the world. That way they would tease far more people and generate much more interest. I'm not really sure what they have accomplished so far except provoking and alienating a few fans.

Re: The Cockroaches single sold out - New Stones album "Foreign Tongues" due out July 10
Posted by: 5strings ()
Date: April 15, 2026 22:19

Charlie is really missing on Rough and twisted, Steve Jordan is loud in the mix and beat like John Bonham , so the track is too much noisy and heavy.

Re: The Cockroaches single sold out - New Stones album "Foreign Tongues" due out July 10
Posted by: Cristiano Radtke ()
Date: April 15, 2026 22:40

Sorry if this was already posted. I saw it on Martin Elliott's FB profile and I think it helps to explain the Stones' marketing campaign.

What Is Scarcity Marketing? (Plus 10 Tactics To Increase Sales)

Re: The Cockroaches single sold out - New Stones album "Foreign Tongues" due out July 10
Posted by: Irix ()
Date: April 15, 2026 22:55

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Something B.B.

All French record stores were identified by the "players" with varying degrees of speed.

Where was actually the record store of the 15th coordinate 48.1135, 1.6785 ? It pointed somehow in the middle of nowhere (near 28200 Châteaudun and Orléans).

Re: The Cockroaches single sold out - New Stones album "Foreign Tongues" due out July 10
Date: April 15, 2026 22:56

I think more people than that have a clue.

There was a cover feature in The Times, an article today in the Financial Times, and that review-feature in the Daily Telegraph (as well as those Sun reports), all good big press for the band, coming out of this interesting stunt.
I think they done good. The song itself is a blast. A bit thick and heavy but I've always liked a big fat glam-era drum sound.
Let's see what happens....

Re: The Cockroaches single sold out - New Stones album "Foreign Tongues" due out July 10
Posted by: keefriffhards ()
Date: April 15, 2026 23:07

I don't know its the ego's or what, but I'm guessing Mick and to a lesser degree Keith think there is all this anticipation for a single from the album and let's tease them about it and play silly games.

Soon they will find out only a tiny percentage of people actually care at this point in time.
Basically the Stones have too much time on their hands.

Remember the good old days when SMU was released, it was like a shot of Adrenaline when it was played on the radio, the intro caused your heart to miss a beat while you tried to suppress involuntary movements from the neck down, you knew it shook everything up, it mattered and every DJ played it and everyone in the clubs made for the dance floor when it got played.
SMU continued to strike a chord for generations, it didn't need gimmicks because it was what it said on the can.

That train left the station 45 years ago, Mick got on one train and Keith caught another in the opposite direction and singles and albums haven't mattered the same since.

Re: The Cockroaches single sold out - New Stones album "Foreign Tongues" due out July 10
Posted by: maumau ()
Date: April 15, 2026 23:20

Start Me Up, Honky Tonk Women, Black Limousine, Stray Cat Blues, I Wanna Be Your Man, Parachute Woman and even Sympathy.

The first three have often been cited here as references for “Rough & Twisted”.

I’m really at a loss and I’m starting to think that perhaps I’ve lost the ability to understand and connect with the sound of the band I’ve loved since 1982, or that my ears aren’t working properly anymore (the countless nuances of Rough & Twisted am I missing)

Re: The Cockroaches single sold out - New Stones album "Foreign Tongues" due out July 10
Posted by: donvis ()
Date: April 15, 2026 23:39

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Dear BV,

With all due respect and grateful for what you've done for the community, I'm surprised to get the impression that you don't approve of how The Cockroaches single was sold (out.)

Normally you tell the community to be happy with everything — ticket prices, set list, the fact that normal hardcore fans don't get access to special gigs, etc. — and now you launch a petition. Could it be that you did not get a copy?
I am with BV on this. There should’ve at least been a digital release.

Re: The Cockroaches single sold out - New Stones album "Foreign Tongues" due out July 10
Posted by: Nankstone ()
Date: April 15, 2026 23:45

The information in bold is fairly reliable; it's mostly all documented in this thread.

I tried to count everything, but I'm missing some information, such as the number of shops in each country.

I estimated the total number of singles based on the available data and my own assumptions based on that data.

For example, Germany is relatively well-documented. There are 11 locations with shops, and the number of singles per shop is fairly reliable (except for Tübingen and Hanover). So, I estimated the "reliable 98 singles" for Germany as a whole to be between 110-120.

Perhaps some more usable data will be helpful to make the table more accurate.
Sorry for mistakes.


Re: The Cockroaches single sold out - New Stones album "Foreign Tongues" due out July 10
Posted by: snoopy2 ()
Date: April 15, 2026 23:49

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Nankstone
The information in bold is fairly reliable; it's mostly all documented in this thread.

I tried to count everything, but I'm missing some information, such as the number of shops in each country.

I estimated the total number of singles based on the available data and my own assumptions based on that data.

For example, Germany is relatively well-documented. There are 11 locations with shops, and the number of singles per shop is fairly reliable (except for Tübingen and Hanover). So, I estimated the "reliable 98 singles" for Germany as a whole to be between 110-120.

Perhaps some more usable data will be helpful to make the table more accurate.
Sorry for mistakes.


Birmingham, AL (US) had 3

Re: The Cockroaches single sold out - New Stones album "Foreign Tongues" due out July 10
Posted by: skytrench ()
Date: April 15, 2026 23:49

Few artists have remained relevant past a certain age, after which they live off of their past accomplishments. Likewise the Stones, but they have lasted longer and with more success than most of their peers and that is a testament to their greatness. Mick as the focal point has remained such a powerful performer throughout the decades. The band have remained interesting through countless metamorphoses. It's simply amazing and quite unbelievable considering the lifestyle they were living in the 70s. I take off my hat and while they might not reach the same levels as earlier, they still capture my interest and I eagerly wait for what they will do next.

Re: The Cockroaches single sold out - New Stones album "Foreign Tongues" due out July 10
Posted by: slewan ()
Date: April 15, 2026 23:55

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Nankstone
The information in bold is fairly reliable; it's mostly all documented in this thread.

I tried to count everything, but I'm missing some information, such as the number of shops in each country.

I estimated the total number of singles based on the available data and my own assumptions based on that data.

For example, Germany is relatively well-documented. There are 11 locations with shops, and the number of singles per shop is fairly reliable (except for Tübingen and Hanover). So, I estimated the "reliable 98 singles" for Germany as a whole to be between 110-120.

Perhaps some more usable data will be helpful to make the table more accurate.
Sorry for mistakes.


except for the fact that the number of records disrtibuted in US is poorly documented I think the numbers of records made available in different countries neatly reflects the size and importance of the markets for Stones music



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2026-04-16 00:44 by slewan.

Re: The Cockroaches single sold out - New Stones album "Foreign Tongues" due out July 10
Posted by: Stilllife09 ()
Date: April 16, 2026 00:00

It is ironic to see this "uproar" and talk of petitions. It seems like the exact same people who usually pride themselves on keeping secret information to themselves—whether it’s rehearsal locations, unannounced club shows, or "inner circle" tips—are the ones now complaining because, for once, they weren't the only ones who could benefit from the insides?

When these same people are part of the "lucky few" getting into a tiny club show or a private rehearsal, I don’t see them starting petitions to get more tickets for the rest of the fans or demanding more entries for the general public. They are usually quite happy with the exclusivity when it benefits them.

Stop whining, accept the reality of a limited release, and just be happy that the Stones are actually still releasing new music in 2026. Deal with it. They really don't owe us anything.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2026-04-16 00:00 by Stilllife09.

Re: The Cockroaches single sold out - New Stones album "Foreign Tongues" due out July 10
Date: April 16, 2026 00:15

With the location they gave for the Washington DC location being closed.

I wonder where the vinyl is now.

Re: The Cockroaches single sold out - New Stones album "Foreign Tongues" due out July 10
Posted by: MidnightGambler ()
Date: April 16, 2026 00:15

For France, you can add Coutances in Normandy, that Shop got 2 copies received by Monday

Re: The Cockroaches single sold out - New Stones album "Foreign Tongues" due out July 10
Date: April 16, 2026 00:21

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The Worst.
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StonesSmeth99
Looking back, the marketing has worked.

Not really. 99,999% have no clue whatsoever that The Rolling Stones have actually released a new single, and even if they read about it somewhere they don't care cause they can't even hear it. This marketing campaign only intrigued hardcore super fans, no one else would spend their time figuring out the meaning of Natchez and 1.41. Compare this with Hackney Diamonds, where they had an actual press conference with Mick, Keith, and Ronnie present and the release of a new single with a killer video. Angry has got about 50 million plays both on Youtube and Spotify. At the moment, Rough and Twisted has got zero plays for obvious reasons. In terms of marketing I don't think this has generated any excitment among non-fans. It was a marketing stunt that only hit super fans, and it ended up annoying them while the general public didn't take any notice at all.

Spot on

Re: The Cockroaches single sold out - New Stones album "Foreign Tongues" due out July 10
Posted by: usetobesampeg ()
Date: April 16, 2026 00:31

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Nankstone
The information in bold is fairly reliable; it's mostly all documented in this thread.

I tried to count everything, but I'm missing some information, such as the number of shops in each country.

I estimated the total number of singles based on the available data and my own assumptions based on that data.

For example, Germany is relatively well-documented. There are 11 locations with shops, and the number of singles per shop is fairly reliable (except for Tübingen and Hanover). So, I estimated the "reliable 98 singles" for Germany as a whole to be between 110-120.

Perhaps some more usable data will be helpful to make the table more accurate.
Sorry for mistakes.



Like I posted earlier PHX had 4 @ 10am 3 sold at right at opening & a little over hour or more 3 sold on ebay w/ posters in PHX & Tempe AZ, we weren't offered any posters, so you have to wonder did the store get more than 4? fake auctions? is mine the only copy left in AZ???

Re: The Cockroaches single sold out - New Stones album "Foreign Tongues" due out July 10
Posted by: goingmad ()
Date: April 16, 2026 01:56

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Nankstone
The information in bold is fairly reliable; it's mostly all documented in this thread.

I tried to count everything, but I'm missing some information, such as the number of shops in each country.

I estimated the total number of singles based on the available data and my own assumptions based on that data.

For example, Germany is relatively well-documented. There are 11 locations with shops, and the number of singles per shop is fairly reliable (except for Tübingen and Hanover). So, I estimated the "reliable 98 singles" for Germany as a whole to be between 110-120.

Perhaps some more usable data will be helpful to make the table more accurate.
Sorry for mistakes.


In Spain, only two shops, both in Madrid. The shop where I got mine is "Marilian records", they only had two copies. The other shop was "Bajo el volcán", and they had 3 records.

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