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Re: OT: Elvis Still Rules
Posted by: rollmops ()
Date: March 3, 2026 20:23

I believe the thread's title is fine. I don't feel any disrespect at all. If one loves Elvis, the act to go today in a Imax movie theater and to watch new footage of Elvis live is extraordinary. Not too many long time dead rockstars' name could carry such a project and be release all over the world. In that accept, Elvis still rules.

Re: OT: Elvis Still Rules
Posted by: Stoneage ()
Date: March 3, 2026 20:25

I understand BV's remark though. It's a generational issue. When The Beatles broke through in the early 60s Elvis was already considered "old". At least for the teens of that era. That is how popular music works.
The most avid Elvis fans are usually since long retired now - in their mid/late 80s if they are still with us.

Re: OT: Elvis Still Rules
Posted by: RisingStone ()
Date: March 3, 2026 21:32

When I was at the New Order concert in Manchester Evening News Arena, December 1998, I saw the amps on stage were hand or spray painted over the front face, ‘SALFORD RULES’ LOL.

You know, ‘somebody/something rules’ is just a catchy slogan.

Re: OT: Elvis Still Rules
Posted by: ds1984 ()
Date: March 3, 2026 21:38

I think things have to be made back to their context.

Most people that are Rock 'N' roll fan are fan of Elvis.

Elvis'56 was a phenomenal singer.

Re: OT: Elvis Still Rules
Posted by: Maindefender ()
Date: March 3, 2026 23:44

Seeing the movie tomorrow! Hard to deny Elvis is a curiosity at the least. Plus dying so young I’m sure to be shocked that he passed within 6 years of the ‘72 performances and still in pretty good shape……(37 in ‘72)

Re: OT: Elvis Still Rules
Posted by: Witness ()
Date: March 4, 2026 00:07

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ds1984
I think things have to be made back to their context.

Most people that are Rock 'N' roll fan are fan of Elvis.

Elvis'56 was a phenomenal singer.

Whatever the importance of Elvis to pave the way for the popular break through of the first wave of rock music, to me personally as a fan of Rolling Stones music since the mid-60s, recorded songs and performances from the original blues greats mean much, much more! Call it to rule or not!

Re: OT: Elvis Still Rules
Posted by: Rockman ()
Date: March 4, 2026 00:17

Lord, I can still remember the way things were back then
In spite of all the hard times, I'd live it all again
To hear the Texas playboys and Tommy Duncan sing
Makes me proud to be from Texas where Bob Wills is still the king

............................. Bob Wills Is Still The King - Waylon Jennings



ROCKMAN

Re: OT: Elvis Still Rules
Posted by: Dan ()
Date: March 4, 2026 03:56

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Stoneage
I understand BV's remark though. It's a generational issue. When The Beatles broke through in the early 60s Elvis was already considered "old". At least for the teens of that era. That is how popular music works.
The most avid Elvis fans are usually since long retired now - in their mid/late 80s if they are still with us.

I was at my friend's house when writer Harvey Kubernik dropped by and he told me he saw Elvis 6 times (named off all the shows) but he could never find anyone to go with because Elvis wasn't cool.

Re: OT: Elvis Still Rules
Posted by: Happy Jack ()
Date: March 4, 2026 04:03

The one thing that strikes me about the "Generational" divide if you will between Elvis and The Beatles or Stones is that Elvis was only born 5 years before John, and Ringo, and a year before Bill.

In fact when the Beatles and Stones and hit the scene in 1964 most of Elvis' fans were only in their mid-20s.

Re: OT: Elvis Still Rules
Posted by: Dan ()
Date: March 4, 2026 04:37

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Happy Jack
The one thing that strikes me about the "Generational" divide if you will between Elvis and The Beatles or Stones is that Elvis was only born 5 years before John, and Ringo, and a year before Bill.

In fact when the Beatles and Stones and hit the scene in 1964 most of Elvis' fans were only in their mid-20s.

Likely the first generation to experience youth culture in America but perhaps not the first to make it a lifestyle for all eternity.

Re: OT: Elvis Still Rules
Posted by: Koen ()
Date: March 4, 2026 08:24

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Kurt
EPIC is an amazing movie. It really shows Elvis at the height of popularity having fun and entertaining the masses. No dirt, just greatness.

Elvis
Presley
In
Concert

The rehearsal footage is even better than the actual concert footage! Fun movie.

I feel like I have seen such a movie a long time ago. Set in LV with lots of background and rehearsal scenes.

Re: OT: Elvis Still Rules
Posted by: bv ()
Date: March 4, 2026 12:27

I guess it is an issue with USA vs British music industry. Most of the bands and solo act I loved in the 70’s were from UK, and some from my own country. Music is culture, just as much it is identity.

I bought NME, MM and Sounds every week. Also Shoot and Goal! I watched The Rolling Stones, Genesis, Supertramp, Elton John, Peter Gabriel and lots more bands live, all from UK.

When Dave Matthews guested with The Stones, I was told he filled stadiums on his own, in USA. These days, with a more open market, and when Taylor Swift sell out Wembley Stadium a zillion times, things are different.

If this thread is about the movie, then the title is misleading. I will check out the initial post.

Bjornulf

Re: OT: Elvis Still Rules
Posted by: kovach ()
Date: March 4, 2026 16:47

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bv
When Dave Matthews guested with The Stones, I was told he filled stadiums on his own, in USA. These days, with a more open market, and when Taylor Swift sell out Wembley Stadium a zillion times, things are different.

Most of us in the US dont get these phenomenons either smileys with beer

Re: OT: EPIC: Elvis Presley In Concert - the movie
Posted by: dmay ()
Date: March 4, 2026 19:10

Wow. All these comments...how Elvis is still shaking up the culture. Don't mind the thread title change. It's the way it be.

Regarding a few things, Elvis did not serve in Korea while in the Army. He was stationed in Germany. It has been conjectured he was drafted and ended up in the Army as part of an effort to rein in rock'n'roll in the United States. Colonel Parker may have had some sway in regard to this. Take into account that it was the very late 1950s in the United States when they blacklisted Jerry Lee Lewis for his marrying his 13 year old cousin and late 50s/early 60s when Chuck Berry was busted. The elders of society were aghast at the boomer generation embracing the devils music and doing whatever to end it
. This is how we got Pat Boone covering Little Richard songs.

As for Elvis, I have a number of albums, outtakes, etc., of him. I highly recommend his "Elvis In Memphis" album as a great listen. The original album is best; the extended album good but y'all might wanna skip a few tunes. A great intro to him. I also recommend checking out these tunes for a taste of him:

Like A Baby
Money Honey
Lawdy Miss Clawdy
Fever
Crying In The Chapel
Suspicious Minds (long version)
Funny How Time Slips Away
Good time Charlie's Got The Blues

There are any number of great tunes by him many folks haven't heard. Y'all can cherry pick through his output to find things to like.

So, go see EPiC - it rocks - and pray the Stones do their own epic similar to this one.

Re: OT: EPIC: Elvis Presley In Concert - the movie
Posted by: kovach ()
Date: March 4, 2026 19:32

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dmay
Wow. All these comments...how Elvis is still shaking up the culture. Don't mind the thread title change. It's the way it be.

Regarding a few things, Elvis did not serve in Korea while in the Army. He was stationed in Germany. It has been conjectured he was drafted and ended up in the Army as part of an effort to rein in rock'n'roll in the United States. Colonel Parker may have had some sway in regard to this. Take into account that it was the very late 1950s in the United States when they blacklisted Jerry Lee Lewis for his marrying his 13 year old cousin and late 50s/early 60s when Chuck Berry was busted. The elders of society were aghast at the boomer generation embracing the devils music and doing whatever to end it
. This is how we got Pat Boone covering Little Richard songs.

As for Elvis, I have a number of albums, outtakes, etc., of him. I highly recommend his "Elvis In Memphis" album as a great listen. The original album is best; the extended album good but y'all might wanna skip a few tunes. A great intro to him. I also recommend checking out these tunes for a taste of him:

Like A Baby
Money Honey
Lawdy Miss Clawdy
Fever
Crying In The Chapel
Suspicious Minds (long version)
Funny How Time Slips Away
Good time Charlie's Got The Blues

There are any number of great tunes by him many folks haven't heard. Y'all can cherry pick through his output to find things to like.

So, go see EPiC - it rocks - and pray the Stones do their own epic similar to this one.

Lots of great stuff here too especially the "sit down" shows on CD 2 (1-15) & 3 (1-16):

[open.spotify.com]



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Re: OT: EPIC: Elvis Presley In Concert - the movie
Posted by: ekelundh ()
Date: March 4, 2026 19:57

It was definitely enjoyable at the cinema to watch Baz Luhrmann’s brand new Elvis documentary EPiC (Elvis Presley in Concert). Catch it if you can. All the talk comes from Elvis dug out from 59 hours of material - old films with exclusive chat and interviews with Elvis from 1969 and a few years ahead - that had been forgotten in an archive in Kansas and now given a Get Back treatment by Peter Jackson’s New Zealand team.

We get to meet the real Elvis, not the gossip press's crazy hunt for the legend. We see him during the Las Vegas era as an amazing band leader with his magical unique voice, so charming, the twinkle in his eye and self-distance. The guy performed over 1,100 shows from 1969 to 1977 sometimes three shows per day (comparatively the Rolling Stones have performed an estimated number of 2,500 shows since 1962). Luckily we get no hassle with interviews where hanger-on friends are queuing up to pay tribute to The King. But we get the TCB band with guitarist, James Burton on his pink Telecaster. Song highlight is when Elvis starts Little Sister and transitions into the Beatles Get Back.

[open.spotify.com]...

Here are five other recent music documentaries that I want to catch asap.

Little Feat: The Documentary (2026)
[jambands.com]

Jeff Buckley: It’s Never Over (2026)
[www.jeffbuckley.film]

Nicky Hopkins: The Session Man (2025)
[youtu.be]

Billy Preston: That’s The Way God Planned It (2026)
[www.billyprestonfilm.com]

Link Wray: The Rock Prophet: The Story of Link Wray (2025)
[youtu.be]

Re: OT: EPIC: Elvis Presley In Concert - the movie
Posted by: RisingStone ()
Date: March 4, 2026 23:13

Allow me to self-quote my old post from the thread of which I was also the original poster:

Re: Change of your perception of the aging Stones through the passage of time
Posted by: RisingStone()
Date: July 20, 2021 13:12
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RisingStone
I have been thinking of Elvis Presley.

Elvis was one of the biggest stars in the whole history of rock ‘n’ roll. An originator as well as archetypal rock star.
And he was the precursor of a rock ‘n’ roll rebel turned into a Vegas act, in a very literal sense of the words in his case.

When I started to listen to rock music in the early 70’s, he was already old school, much more so than The Beatles and The Rolling Stones. He seemed to belong to the ancient times, a yesterday’s star. The film, Elvis: That’s The Way It Is, became a big hit in Japan (it was released under the title, “Elvis On Stage”, over there), and there was an occasional radio friendly chart topper, e.g. Burning Love — for all that, Elvis in those days felt like a nostalgia act, a revival.

When he passed away in Summer 1977, Elvis was a half forgotten figure — at least in Japan and around me. He was forty-two, and being at that age in 1977 gave me an impression of a rock star who lived long, especially when he was compared to the members of the “27 Club”, Brian, Jimi, Janis and Jim, those who had left us earlier, and in much younger age than Elvis. The news was received as a blast from the past by many of us, old and young generations alike back in time.

Looking back from now, some forty-four years after his death, I feel how young he was — he was younger than me now by twenty years or so! Untimely even. In 2009, I put my hand on the 40th anniversary 2CD edition of Elvis In Memphis, his later-era masterpiece released in 1969, the year of Woodstock and Altamont. It was almost like an alt-country/Americana album that came decades earlier.

[iorr.org]

Re: OT: EPIC: Elvis Presley In Concert - the movie
Posted by: Maindefender ()
Date: March 4, 2026 23:49

Just saw the movie……it goes without saying he was a force of nature. A master showman. And that band plus backup singers…woof! He was so intimate with them.
Probably wise he did movies during the first British Invasion. I have to see if there is a collection of songs from the post Germany movie period that would be cool to have.
There was a 20 second nod to the Stones and Jagger being the only artist that could hold a candle to Elvis……that’s speaks volumes

Re: OT: EPIC: Elvis Presley In Concert - the movie
Posted by: Big Al ()
Date: March 5, 2026 08:52

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Maindefender
Just saw the movie……it goes without saying he was a force of nature. A master showman. And that band plus backup singers…woof! He was so intimate with them.
Probably wise he did movies during the first British Invasion. I have to see if there is a collection of songs from the post Germany movie period that would be cool to have.
There was a 20 second nod to the Stones and Jagger being the only artist that could hold a candle to Elvis……that’s speaks volumes

in my opinion, some of his finest work was recorded during the immediate post-army period: It’s Now Or Never; Little Sister; His Latest Flame; Suspicion; She’s Not You; the Elvis Is Back! album. GI Blues is awful, but for me, the music didn’t fully deteriorate until about 1963. 1960-1962 was a great and commercially successful period for Elvis. Oh, there’s also the fabulous Return To Sender and Can’t Help Falling In Love With You!

Edit: give Elvis’ Golden Records Volume 3 a listen. The extended release from 1997 covers the 1960-1962 period very well.



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Re: OT: Elvis Still Rules
Posted by: GasLightStreet ()
Date: March 5, 2026 08:56

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bv
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TIRED
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bv
I am 70+ and I live in Norway. Sure I have heard about Elvis, and may be he performed live in UK, I don’t know. But… did he tour the world, like Japan, Australia, South America snd Europe several times? None of my friends talk about Elvis.

I would not discredit Elvis, but may be he was more of a Las Vegas act and a record disc performer, I just don’t know any Elvis fans. So how does he rule?

I am surprised that you "of all people" don't realize how amazing Elvis Presley was and still is, considering the quality of his music and his live shows, not to mention the high standards he set. Unfortunately he never toured outside of North America, those were decisions made by a management he sadly was fully dependent on. If you get a chance, watch the new movie "EPiC" in a proper IMAX theater, most likely you too will agree that "Elvis still rules" (no sense in taking this literally, it's just an American idiom).

The title of this thread is "Elvis Still Rules". I am aware of his Las Vegas days, about his movies, about Graceland, and so on, I have been to Memphis. Also, I have been to Liverpool, but I would not say that "The Beatles still rules". I have all Beatles albums from Revolver and on, but no Elvis.

Why should I, "of all people", have a particular taste for music? I am an individual. I love the Stones. I love a lot of other performing acts, past and present. I just expressed my personal view. In my part of the world, Elvis is history. He may have been great, he many be historic, but still, so are The Beatles, and The Rolling Stones, and many more.

Elvis turned radio - and very quickly the record buying public and live show aspect - on its head.

Way before Las Vegas.

The closest anyone has ever gotten to that status is The Beatles - for a very short time. A very short time called Shea Stadium.

I'm making this up but the reason the bizarre and daft American TV show is called American Idol is because saying American Voice would not work: that's Elvis.

And obviously many more after him but he was the boulder that broke the impossible dam.

Keith loved - and most likely still does - Elvis.

"The king"... ok, well, "The Greatest Rock'N'Roll Band In The World" even though Elvis stated that Fats was the real king of rock'n'roll and The Rolling Stones never said they were.

Which is true. And obviously Little Richard is a big part - but Elvis.

Regardless - what Elvis did will never be topped. He is the apex.

Re: OT: Elvis Still Rules
Posted by: Koen ()
Date: March 5, 2026 09:18

American Idol was based on the British show Pop Idol.

Re: OT: EPIC: Elvis Presley In Concert - the movie
Posted by: Doxa ()
Date: March 5, 2026 11:25

Like with the Beatles the story of Elvis is typically told in terms of historical spectacles: 'phenomenal', 'pop avalanche', 'teenage revolution', 'first in this and first in that', 'bigger than Jesus' - all kinds of sociological, economical, culture historical and other blah blah blah things that surely are true - especially if one was a kid back in the 50s (like John, Paul, Mick and Keith) or the 60's (their fans) - but had nothing to do with music itself.

Probably I was born too late, but I never been too impressed (two Dylan phrases in one token!). The Homer Simpson in me says: BOOOORING. Give me EXILE ON MAIN STREET and THE KING OF DELTA BLUES SINGERS VOl. 1 & 2. Or ARE YOU EXPERIENCED? The music, mon, the music. smoking smiley

- Doxa



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Re: OT: EPIC: Elvis Presley In Concert - the movie
Posted by: RisingStone ()
Date: March 5, 2026 11:40

But you have never dined with The King…

Re: OT: EPIC: Elvis Presley In Concert - the movie
Posted by: Big Al ()
Date: March 5, 2026 11:44

Who else, here, would rather listen to prime Elvis than the so-called 'blues greats'; Muddy Waters, Howlin' Wolf; Elmore James and B.B. King, etc? Don't get me wrong; I do appreciate - and enjoy! - some blues music, but it simply doesn't resonate with me like rock 'n roll does: Elvis, Buddy Holly; Chuck Berry and Ricky Nelson.

Re: OT: EPIC: Elvis Presley In Concert - the movie
Posted by: Doxa ()
Date: March 5, 2026 11:56

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Big Al
Who else, here, would rather listen to prime Elvis than the so-called 'blues greats'; Muddy Waters, Howlin' Wolf; Elmore James and B.B. King, etc? Don't get me wrong; I do appreciate - and enjoy! - some blues music, but it simply doesn't resonate with me like rock 'n roll does: Elvis, Buddy Holly; Chuck Berry and Ricky Nelson.

What is the point to ask something like that? I am sure here are people who like Abba or The Beatles or The Bee Gees or Beethoven more than they do of Muddy Waters. So what?

Sorry to hear that "so called 'blues greats'" do not resonate with you.

- Doxa

Re: OT: EPIC: Elvis Presley In Concert - the movie
Posted by: Big Al ()
Date: March 5, 2026 12:10

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Doxa
Quote
Big Al
Who else, here, would rather listen to prime Elvis than the so-called 'blues greats'; Muddy Waters, Howlin' Wolf; Elmore James and B.B. King, etc? Don't get me wrong; I do appreciate - and enjoy! - some blues music, but it simply doesn't resonate with me like rock 'n roll does: Elvis, Buddy Holly; Chuck Berry and Ricky Nelson.

What is the point to ask something like that? I am sure here are people who like Abba or The Beatles or The Bee Gees or Beethoven more than they do of Muddy Waters. So what?

Sorry to hear that "so called 'blues greats'" do not resonate with you.

- Doxa

Okay, I shouldn't have typed 'so-called'! In essence, my primary point is that I prefer rock 'n roll to authentic blues music. I was merely wondering how many here shared my preference.

Re: OT: EPIC: Elvis Presley In Concert - the movie
Posted by: Witness ()
Date: March 5, 2026 12:41

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Big Al
Who else, here, would rather listen to prime Elvis than the so-called 'blues greats'; Muddy Waters, Howlin' Wolf; Elmore James and B.B. King, etc? Don't get me wrong; I do appreciate - and enjoy! - some blues music, but it simply doesn't resonate with me like rock 'n roll does: Elvis, Buddy Holly; Chuck Berry and Ricky Nelson.

As already said, I respect Elvis for his importance in the history of rock music. I have listened to my compilation with Elvis to a limited extent. I do not want to disparage Elvis.

But when you challenge: Elvis really does not interest or appeal to me personally. The 'blues greats' DO!

Re: OT: EPIC: Elvis Presley In Concert - the movie
Posted by: Rockman ()
Date: March 5, 2026 12:46

The Sun Sessions are essential ....



ROCKMAN

Re: OT: EPIC: Elvis Presley In Concert - the movie
Posted by: Witness ()
Date: March 5, 2026 12:57

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Big Al
Quote
Doxa
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Big Al
Who else, here, would rather listen to prime Elvis than the so-called 'blues greats'; Muddy Waters, Howlin' Wolf; Elmore James and B.B. King, etc? Don't get me wrong; I do appreciate - and enjoy! - some blues music, but it simply doesn't resonate with me like rock 'n roll does: Elvis, Buddy Holly; Chuck Berry and Ricky Nelson.

What is the point to ask something like that? I am sure here are people who like Abba or The Beatles or The Bee Gees or Beethoven more than they do of Muddy Waters. So what?

Sorry to hear that "so called 'blues greats'" do not resonate with you.

- Doxa

Okay, I shouldn't have typed 'so-called'! In essence, my primary point is that I prefer rock 'n roll to authentic blues music. I was merely wondering how many here shared my preference.

I for one prefer blues and blues based rock to non-blues based rock.

[Not saying that I do not like, because I do, for instance psychedelic music.
Besides, lately I bought all the albums of Cocteau Twins and am listening to them. What some call "dream pop". And a vital influence on the shoegazer band Slowdive, favourites of mine from the 1990s.]



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Re: OT: EPIC: Elvis Presley In Concert - the movie
Posted by: Big Al ()
Date: March 5, 2026 13:05

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Witness
Quote
Big Al
Who else, here, would rather listen to prime Elvis than the so-called 'blues greats'; Muddy Waters, Howlin' Wolf; Elmore James and B.B. King, etc? Don't get me wrong; I do appreciate - and enjoy! - some blues music, but it simply doesn't resonate with me like rock 'n roll does: Elvis, Buddy Holly; Chuck Berry and Ricky Nelson.

As already said, I respect Elvis for his importance in the history of rock music. I have listened to my compilation with Elvis to a limited extent. I do not want to disparage Elvis.

But when you challenge: Elvis really does not interest or appeal to me personally. The 'blues greats' DO!

And that's more than fair enough, Witness. I've always leaned ever-so slightly more towards a 'pop' sound; and that's despite a love for blues-based rock. I guess it's just a natural intuition. I think the reason I love the Stones' music so much is that they're a blend of styles, though be it, with a blues-base holding it somewhat together.

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