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Re: OT: Winter Olympics in Italy 2026
Posted by: NashvilleBlues ()
Date: February 13, 2026 02:32

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Rockman
Never seen snow ...
Yet it did actually snow the day i was born ....

Strange stuff ....

It can be enjoyable when the conditions are right. A couple of weeks ago I was without power for a couple of days and slept in my house when it was 40°F due to a snow and ice storm. Some of my friends down the peninsula didn’t have power for over a week.

Re: OT: Winter Olympics in Italy 2026
Posted by: Rockman ()
Date: February 13, 2026 02:50

Never seen snow ... i like it like that



ROCKMAN

Re: OT: Winter Olympics in Italy 2026
Posted by: bv ()
Date: February 13, 2026 03:23

Only bad losers claim Norway is cheating. It is just sad to hear it. Klæbo is unique, and he might end up with 2-3 more gold medals, in addition to his two gold medals already won with a clear margin during these Olympics (he is just 29 yesrs old, so he will be around for more years. The reason Norway, with half the population of Sweden, and 2% of the US population, is money. We have oil and fish, and and with the Lillehammer olympics, and on, there has been a lot of funding in top athletic details, like ski preparations. Also, all the kids have a dream in Norway; to be the next Haaland, Klæbo or Johaug.

It was 17/100 of a second between gold and bronze in 5,000 meters female speed skating. Norway got the bronze, without cheating. A guy from North Odal in Norway, wan gold medal on the same speed skating distance, because his parents spent all their income for driving him to and back from the skating rink in Hamar, built fog the 1994 winter Olympics in Norway.

I am surprised why some spend time on blaming Norway for cheating. The ski jumpers did take a shortcut a few years ago, but they lost a little of goodwill in Norway, still, ski jumping favour special bodies, like basketball.

Women make less money from winter sports, same for other sports. Not long ago Norway had the best national tram in hand ball. Not because of cheating, but because equal rights have been the practice for decades in Norway.

Sure it is frustrating for the Niskanen brother and sister to have the Norwegians and Swedish to beat, but they do not chest, they arr all at an extremely high level. Also, it helps that winter spotts and football is first priority fir any Norwegian child, and their parents, and grandparents parents.

PS. The following Wall Street Journal is just one of more than 100 details Norwegian top skiers do in order to get better:

[www.wsj.com]

Bjornulf



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2026-02-13 03:42 by bv.

Re: OT: Winter Olympics in Italy 2026
Posted by: kovach ()
Date: February 13, 2026 03:50

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mikey C
Czech 0 Canada 5 mens Hockey watched this in prague they were not Happy.M

I have mixed feelings on Canada's goalie. He's my favorite goalie for my hometown team but having a horrible year in the NHL which I thought might help team USA.

But he seems to have risen to the occasion. Hoping this translates to a better remainder of the NHL season after the Olympics.

Re: OT: Winter Olympics in Italy 2026
Date: February 13, 2026 09:36

The biathlete Einar Hedegart will beat Klæbo today. He's sensational!

Re: OT: Winter Olympics in Italy 2026
Posted by: Doxa ()
Date: February 13, 2026 12:35

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bv
Only bad losers claim Norway is cheating. It is just sad to hear it. Klæbo is unique, and he might end up with 2-3 more gold medals, in addition to his two gold medals already won with a clear margin during these Olympics (he is just 29 yesrs old, so he will be around for more years. The reason Norway, with half the population of Sweden, and 2% of the US population, is money. We have oil and fish, and and with the Lillehammer olympics, and on, there has been a lot of funding in top athletic details, like ski preparations. Also, all the kids have a dream in Norway; to be the next Haaland, Klæbo or Johaug.

It was 17/100 of a second between gold and bronze in 5,000 meters female speed skating. Norway got the bronze, without cheating. A guy from North Odal in Norway, wan gold medal on the same speed skating distance, because his parents spent all their income for driving him to and back from the skating rink in Hamar, built fog the 1994 winter Olympics in Norway.

I am surprised why some spend time on blaming Norway for cheating. The ski jumpers did take a shortcut a few years ago, but they lost a little of goodwill in Norway, still, ski jumping favour special bodies, like basketball.

Women make less money from winter sports, same for other sports. Not long ago Norway had the best national tram in hand ball. Not because of cheating, but because equal rights have been the practice for decades in Norway.

Sure it is frustrating for the Niskanen brother and sister to have the Norwegians and Swedish to beat, but they do not chest, they arr all at an extremely high level. Also, it helps that winter spotts and football is first priority fir any Norwegian child, and their parents, and grandparents parents.

PS. The following Wall Street Journal is just one of more than 100 details Norwegian top skiers do in order to get better:

[www.wsj.com]

Holy cow! At least no lack of Kool Aid in Norway. We bad losers here are lucky to walk on the same earth as you guys.

For those losers and lesser mortals who think rules should be the same for everybody here is stuff I was refering to earlier (google translator makes miracles): [www.is.fi]

- Doxa



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2026-02-13 12:54 by Doxa.

Re: OT: Winter Olympics in Italy 2026
Date: February 13, 2026 13:38

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DandelionPowderman
The biathlete Einar Hedegart will beat Klæbo today. He's sensational!

It was close!

Re: OT: Winter Olympics in Italy 2026
Date: February 13, 2026 13:41

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Doxa
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bv
Only bad losers claim Norway is cheating. It is just sad to hear it. Klæbo is unique, and he might end up with 2-3 more gold medals, in addition to his two gold medals already won with a clear margin during these Olympics (he is just 29 yesrs old, so he will be around for more years. The reason Norway, with half the population of Sweden, and 2% of the US population, is money. We have oil and fish, and and with the Lillehammer olympics, and on, there has been a lot of funding in top athletic details, like ski preparations. Also, all the kids have a dream in Norway; to be the next Haaland, Klæbo or Johaug.

It was 17/100 of a second between gold and bronze in 5,000 meters female speed skating. Norway got the bronze, without cheating. A guy from North Odal in Norway, wan gold medal on the same speed skating distance, because his parents spent all their income for driving him to and back from the skating rink in Hamar, built fog the 1994 winter Olympics in Norway.

I am surprised why some spend time on blaming Norway for cheating. The ski jumpers did take a shortcut a few years ago, but they lost a little of goodwill in Norway, still, ski jumping favour special bodies, like basketball.

Women make less money from winter sports, same for other sports. Not long ago Norway had the best national tram in hand ball. Not because of cheating, but because equal rights have been the practice for decades in Norway.

Sure it is frustrating for the Niskanen brother and sister to have the Norwegians and Swedish to beat, but they do not chest, they arr all at an extremely high level. Also, it helps that winter spotts and football is first priority fir any Norwegian child, and their parents, and grandparents parents.

PS. The following Wall Street Journal is just one of more than 100 details Norwegian top skiers do in order to get better:

[www.wsj.com]

Holy cow! At least no lack of Kool Aid in Norway. We bad losers here are lucky to walk on the same earth as you guys.

For those losers and lesser mortals who think rules should be the same for everybody here is stuff I was refering to earlier (google translator makes miracles): [www.is.fi]

- Doxa

You forgot to mention that they got permission from FIS to use the stuff. It's not Norway's fault that FIS didn't inform the other nations?

A very unfortunate incident, yes, but not even remotely cheating.

Re: OT: Winter Olympics in Italy 2026
Posted by: Doxa ()
Date: February 13, 2026 13:58

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DandelionPowderman
Quote
Doxa
Quote
bv
Only bad losers claim Norway is cheating. It is just sad to hear it. Klæbo is unique, and he might end up with 2-3 more gold medals, in addition to his two gold medals already won with a clear margin during these Olympics (he is just 29 yesrs old, so he will be around for more years. The reason Norway, with half the population of Sweden, and 2% of the US population, is money. We have oil and fish, and and with the Lillehammer olympics, and on, there has been a lot of funding in top athletic details, like ski preparations. Also, all the kids have a dream in Norway; to be the next Haaland, Klæbo or Johaug.

It was 17/100 of a second between gold and bronze in 5,000 meters female speed skating. Norway got the bronze, without cheating. A guy from North Odal in Norway, wan gold medal on the same speed skating distance, because his parents spent all their income for driving him to and back from the skating rink in Hamar, built fog the 1994 winter Olympics in Norway.

I am surprised why some spend time on blaming Norway for cheating. The ski jumpers did take a shortcut a few years ago, but they lost a little of goodwill in Norway, still, ski jumping favour special bodies, like basketball.

Women make less money from winter sports, same for other sports. Not long ago Norway had the best national tram in hand ball. Not because of cheating, but because equal rights have been the practice for decades in Norway.

Sure it is frustrating for the Niskanen brother and sister to have the Norwegians and Swedish to beat, but they do not chest, they arr all at an extremely high level. Also, it helps that winter spotts and football is first priority fir any Norwegian child, and their parents, and grandparents parents.

PS. The following Wall Street Journal is just one of more than 100 details Norwegian top skiers do in order to get better:

[www.wsj.com]

Holy cow! At least no lack of Kool Aid in Norway. We bad losers here are lucky to walk on the same earth as you guys.

For those losers and lesser mortals who think rules should be the same for everybody here is stuff I was refering to earlier (google translator makes miracles): [www.is.fi]

- Doxa

You forgot to mention that they got permission from FIS to use the stuff. It's not Norway's fault that FIS didn't inform the other nations?

A very unfortunate incident, yes, but not even remotely cheating.

Oh, yeah, propably is the money BV talks about that for some particular nation FIS is doing favors while for others not. Is that fair? "Well, shit happens, you bad losers".

What I find odd is that even no doubt Norwegians are physically and seemingly mentally superior to others, they still need to use tricks like that.

- Doxa



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2026-02-13 14:04 by Doxa.

Re: OT: Winter Olympics in Italy 2026
Posted by: bv ()
Date: February 13, 2026 14:14

Congratulations to UK and Andrew Musgrave for making it to the number six spot today in men’s 10 km interval start in free skiing. I don’t think there are too many skiing tracks in UK, so I understand why he spend a little of time training in Norway, also speaking perfect Norwegian with no accent at sll.

The conditions were terrible, slush snow, with half a dozen or so skiers falling badly in the slopes. Also congratulations to French skier Desloges for once again taking the silver medal, splitting the four Norwegians, and beating everyone expect Klæbo, who won, his 3rd gold medal in these olympics, and his 9th gold in a row in international competitions.

Today it was +8c in Val de Fiemme, Andrew competed in a singlet. The British should be proud. Also, he is a true gentleman, admitting today’s race was tough, terrible conditions snow wise.

Bjornulf

Re: OT: Winter Olympics in Italy 2026
Date: February 13, 2026 14:52

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Doxa
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DandelionPowderman
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Doxa
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bv
Only bad losers claim Norway is cheating. It is just sad to hear it. Klæbo is unique, and he might end up with 2-3 more gold medals, in addition to his two gold medals already won with a clear margin during these Olympics (he is just 29 yesrs old, so he will be around for more years. The reason Norway, with half the population of Sweden, and 2% of the US population, is money. We have oil and fish, and and with the Lillehammer olympics, and on, there has been a lot of funding in top athletic details, like ski preparations. Also, all the kids have a dream in Norway; to be the next Haaland, Klæbo or Johaug.

It was 17/100 of a second between gold and bronze in 5,000 meters female speed skating. Norway got the bronze, without cheating. A guy from North Odal in Norway, wan gold medal on the same speed skating distance, because his parents spent all their income for driving him to and back from the skating rink in Hamar, built fog the 1994 winter Olympics in Norway.

I am surprised why some spend time on blaming Norway for cheating. The ski jumpers did take a shortcut a few years ago, but they lost a little of goodwill in Norway, still, ski jumping favour special bodies, like basketball.

Women make less money from winter sports, same for other sports. Not long ago Norway had the best national tram in hand ball. Not because of cheating, but because equal rights have been the practice for decades in Norway.

Sure it is frustrating for the Niskanen brother and sister to have the Norwegians and Swedish to beat, but they do not chest, they arr all at an extremely high level. Also, it helps that winter spotts and football is first priority fir any Norwegian child, and their parents, and grandparents parents.

PS. The following Wall Street Journal is just one of more than 100 details Norwegian top skiers do in order to get better:

[www.wsj.com]

Holy cow! At least no lack of Kool Aid in Norway. We bad losers here are lucky to walk on the same earth as you guys.

For those losers and lesser mortals who think rules should be the same for everybody here is stuff I was refering to earlier (google translator makes miracles): [www.is.fi]

- Doxa

You forgot to mention that they got permission from FIS to use the stuff. It's not Norway's fault that FIS didn't inform the other nations?

A very unfortunate incident, yes, but not even remotely cheating.

Oh, yeah, propably is the money BV talks about that for some particular nation FIS is doing favors while for others not. Is that fair? "Well, shit happens, you bad losers".

What I find odd is that even no doubt Norwegians are physically and seemingly mentally superior to others, they still need to use tricks like that.

- Doxa

How is asking whether a relevant thing is permitted a 'trick'? Anyone could have done that.

BV's words have nothing to do with me smiling smiley

Re: OT: Winter Olympics in Italy 2026
Posted by: bv ()
Date: February 13, 2026 15:30

I would advice everyone to keep a positive mind.

Desloges from France made a mistake some days ago, but the jury looked into it and gave him a yellow card, He kept his well deserved silver medal, which I and most others think was fair. He won nothing from his mistake, even if it might have been a technical reason for loosing the medal.

Worse with the Ukranian athletic who was banned from competing with his helmet with poictures of fallen athlets, but rules are rules, the FIS manager said with tears in her eyes.

Today a skier broke one of his skis in two pieces, when falling in the "slush snow" slope, may be he was from South Africa. Then soon there were three staff people with a new pole and a new ski. It seems like they are working on doing the best for all competitors, not just for the top nations.

Bjornulf

Re: OT: Winter Olympics in Italy 2026
Posted by: Stoneage ()
Date: February 13, 2026 18:46

We Swedes should be so lucky that we have the women cross-country ski-team. They are doing all the medal counting for us. So, thank you Frida, Ebba, Linn, Jonna and Maja. The curling team is doing well also.
Otherwise? Some seem not to have peaked their form for the Olympics. But it's not over yet...

It's interesting to see that, usually, all the Swedish medalists in skiing are from small towns in the north of Sweden. Places never written about in the media.
9/10 of Sweden's population is centred around the three big cities, Stockholm-Göteborg-Malmö in south and central Sweden. Just a fun fact...

Re: OT: Winter Olympics in Italy 2026
Posted by: Stoneage ()
Date: February 13, 2026 18:51

Hey Rockman - snow is fun. You can make snowballs and throw on people. Or igloos to live in if you want to. Beware of the polar bears though. They can be pretty mean...

Re: OT: Winter Olympics in Italy 2026
Posted by: SomeTorontoGirl ()
Date: February 13, 2026 23:52

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Stoneage
Hey Rockman - snow is fun. You can make snowballs and throw on people. Or igloos to live in if you want to. Beware of the polar bears though. They can be pretty mean...

…and don’t forget, Rockeee, when you make snow angels, it’s face UP!


Re: OT: Winter Olympics in Italy 2026
Posted by: Doxa ()
Date: February 14, 2026 00:33

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Re: OT: Winter Olympics in Italy 2026
Posted by: Doxa ()
Date: February 14, 2026 01:48

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bv
I would advice everyone to keep a positive mind.

Desloges from France made a mistake some days ago, but the jury looked into it and gave him a yellow card, He kept his well deserved silver medal, which I and most others think was fair. He won nothing from his mistake, even if it might have been a technical reason for loosing the medal.

Worse with the Ukranian athletic who was banned from competing with his helmet with poictures of fallen athlets, but rules are rules, the FIS manager said with tears in her eyes.

Today a skier broke one of his skis in two pieces, when falling in the "slush snow" slope, may be he was from South Africa. Then soon there were three staff people with a new pole and a new ski. It seems like they are working on doing the best for all competitors, not just for the top nations.

With respect, boss, but to me that sounds slightly hypocritical. I guess it is easy act big-hearted and talk whatever when one is in the winning side. Especially if one is destined to win gold medals from here and there. More than to count I guess.

I am afraid that you Norwegians do not even had an idea what it looks like from the side of the coin. You know, outside of your own bubble of being so damn superior by nature by whatever means.

But what goes for the case I was talking about what you and DandelionPowderman say sounds just so typical in its arrogance. What Norwegian team asked from FIS to do was against the rules set by the very same organization for the whole season (to use a machine that helps to adjust the skiis to fit the circumstances very fast). No other team even thought about that being possible - to break that rule. But for some VERY odd reason, the FIA official did okayed the quest by Norwegian team. And for other VERY odd reason did not tell that to any other teams. So the result was that the Norwegian team had a HUGE advantage against all the other teams. That was not fair at all for the (non-Norwegian) athletes who had repeared for this very race that happens only once in EIGHT years.

So, it is 'great' indeed to hear that people not being so happy about the events are called 'bad losers' or that the whole thing just being 'unfortunate'. Jeez, You Big Winners - please, just for human's sake, try just once understand what it is like to be an underdog and treated wrong. Although the people at hand are not so relevant or great as you are, and you dont see or acknowledge them, they might still have a right to say something. At least before the whole winter olympics tournament is nothing but a pure Norwegian thing (it is getting there, though).

- Doxa



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Re: OT: Winter Olympics in Italy 2026
Posted by: Witness ()
Date: February 14, 2026 03:30

What bv called bad losers, Doxa, was to talk about Norway actually cheating. They asked permission.

There have been winter Olympic Games at least once, when Finland did better than Norway. Look up the medal statistics for the winter Olympic Games in 1956, also in Italy. Finland won 3 gold medals, Sweden and Norway 2 each. Sweden with more medals totally than the other two. You might for instance learn the name of Veikko Hakulinen.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2026-02-14 03:32 by Witness.

Re: OT: Winter Olympics in Italy 2026
Posted by: Witness ()
Date: February 14, 2026 03:51

In 1988 the difference between Finland and Norway is even more pronounced, at Norway's disadvantage.

Re: OT: Winter Olympics in Italy 2026
Posted by: Putty ()
Date: February 14, 2026 10:22

Big upset on the men’s singles figure skating final.
Favorite Ilia Malinin put on probably the worst performance of
his career finishing out of medals.
Congratulations to Mikhail Shaidorov for an
outstanding night and winning the gold for
Kazakhstan.

Re: OT: Winter Olympics in Italy 2026
Posted by: bv ()
Date: February 14, 2026 13:16

In order to make success in winter sports you do need to check out on a number of important points:

1. Winter with mountains, skiing tracks and culture
2. High number of recruits i e young athlets
3. Funding
4. Parents who care

Denmark and The Netherlands fail on number one, but NL have frozen canals all over and a long skating culture so they check high on all numbers.

Sweden, Finland, USA, Canada etc check high on all but if other sports like ice hockey or football etc take more focus - then they will lack recruits. I remember a friend from Sweden said Norway got a lot of medals in Lillehammer 1994, but Sweden got 25 in hockey (one for each player).

There is not much to do in Norway during winter. Our fotball season is in summer not in winter like other countries, so lots of kids ski in winter.

France, Austria, Italy, Germany and many others check on all of the above and they do great in winter sports, but as the climate is changing then winter sports will change a lot over the years to come.

Bjornulf



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2026-02-14 13:19 by bv.

Re: OT: Winter Olympics in Italy 2026
Posted by: snoopy2 ()
Date: February 14, 2026 17:01

Sarah Schleper smiling smiley

Re: OT: Winter Olympics in Italy 2026
Posted by: runaway ()
Date: February 14, 2026 18:57

500 m skating for men: What a great close race between Jordan Stolz and Jenning de Boo, Jordan for Gold and silver for Jenning!

“The Dutch winters are not to cold for some years now and the last time I went outdoors skating was in 2021”

Re: OT: Winter Olympics in Italy 2026
Posted by: kovach ()
Date: February 14, 2026 20:43

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kovach
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mikey C
Czech 0 Canada 5 mens Hockey watched this in prague they were not Happy.M

I have mixed feelings on Canada's goalie. He's my favorite goalie for my hometown team but having a horrible year in the NHL which I thought might help team USA.

But he seems to have risen to the occasion. Hoping this translates to a better remainder of the NHL season after the Olympics.

More mixed feelings as I see our USA team goaltender is Hellebuyck, a big baby who goes straight to the locker room and pouts when pulled unlike every other goalie in the NHL who remains on the bench and supports his team.



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Re: OT: Winter Olympics in Italy 2026
Posted by: angee ()
Date: February 15, 2026 01:48

Jumping back to Wednesday, I watched the #1 French pair and #2 US pair do their ice dances. Fantastic routines, both, though very different. France was a surprise upset, as reported.

~"Love is Strong"~

Re: OT: Winter Olympics in Italy 2026
Posted by: yorkshirestone ()
Date: February 15, 2026 13:28

Heading to Milan tomorrow from uk for women’s ice hockey semi final (I think Sweden v USA)
Will be cheering on Sweden and looking forward to seeing the new Santagiulia arena

Re: OT: Winter Olympics in Italy 2026
Posted by: runaway ()
Date: February 15, 2026 14:26

Hats off to Klaebo

Re: OT: Winter Olympics in Italy 2026
Posted by: Honestman ()
Date: February 16, 2026 16:53

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bv
In order to make success in winter sports you do need to check out on a number of important points:

1. Winter with mountains, skiing tracks and culture
2. High number of recruits i e young athlets
3. Funding
4. Parents who care

Denmark and The Netherlands fail on number one, but NL have frozen canals all over and a long skating culture so they check high on all numbers.

Sweden, Finland, USA, Canada etc check high on all but if other sports like ice hockey or football etc take more focus - then they will lack recruits. I remember a friend from Sweden said Norway got a lot of medals in Lillehammer 1994, but Sweden got 25 in hockey (one for each player).

There is not much to do in Norway during winter. Our fotball season is in summer not in winter like other countries, so lots of kids ski in winter.

France, Austria, Italy, Germany and many others check on all of the above and they do great in winter sports, but as the climate is changing then winter sports will change a lot over the years to come.

I would add that it's far more difficult for a country to get a champion in almost each discipline than winning the gold in one or two sports only,
unless you want to be in the final Top 10 for the medals.
Only a handfull of countries should have succeed to do it (I haven't checked) since the beginning of the olympics Games, winter and summer all together.

Congratulations also for the athlets who have won their first medals.



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2026-02-16 16:57 by Honestman.

Re: OT: Winter Olympics in Italy 2026
Posted by: Honestman ()
Date: February 16, 2026 17:05

It happened yesterday...


Re: OT: Winter Olympics in Italy 2026
Posted by: Mathijs ()
Date: February 16, 2026 17:09

Just a note to mention that The Netherlands now rank 3rd in the overall medal ranking.

Not bad!

Mathijs

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