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There’s some unbelievable delusion on this site. Keith is soon to turn 82. Isn’t it time, surely?

Exactly, an incredible number of strange comments here from people who don't want to respect their desire not to do any more tours, regardless of the reason. Incredibly disrespectful.

+1. Outside of any guest appearances etc looks like that’s it. Residencies and so on a non starter as rehearsal and gig time likely similar to the tour that just got canned. Mick’s fault, should do a winos tour etc- unbelievable disrespect. The stones have been a massive part of my adult life (first gig aged 16 in 1990, 21st gig 2022 in Belgium) but imagining their existence back into a touring entity against their wishes is just weird. Enjoy the memories, enjoy the music.



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Keith was sitting down at times during shows in the last US tour. He just may, as Antoine noted, have come to terms with his age. He may not be able to stand and play at a level he's pleased with through an entire tour's worth of concerts.

So why did he agree to record the album and start booking process? If he came o terms with his age in 2024, why did they spend entire 2025 recording the new album and then start booking the tour? They spent so much effort, energy and money in the new album just to pull the plug just before tour announcement because Keith felt he's too old already in 2024? That does not make sense. If this was the case he should have called it quit one year ago or retire after the next tour.

Well, recording is one thing; touring another. Whilst Keith's age - in his case, at least - may dictate a decision to cease touring - not necessarily not performing full-stop - recording an an album and being active as a unit in other ways, is still possible, and - hopefully, fingers-crossed - something he's still keen on. I don't see a reason to not be treated a to a big promotion and lots of activity next year. It just won't be concerts.

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It says Keith doesent want to tour.So why Are you still talking about Jagger?

It being the Sun, so I don't know how trustworthy that paper is, nor their anonymous "source".

However, Marlon did say that he and his family hoped that Keith wouldn't do more big tours.

If that's true (where did Marlon say that?) i fully understand.
Keith creatively may want to get away from Mick. I don't think the Glimmer Twins have seen eye to eye on what they think the Stones should sound like for decades. just how much passion does Keith have left to play Miss You and IORR live.
He's been loyal to Mick but it can only go so far at their age's now, Keith certainly isn't interested in the money offered for a Stadium tour, he probably wants every move he makes now to count towards something he wants to play and sing.

He was a guest (via link) on a Stones event in Oslo. Great guy, with buckets full of charm. However, he said that he and his family hoped that Keith wouldn't do more big tours.



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It sounds like a wise decision to me, never mind who made it.
They can do still the occasional concert if they want to, hopefully in a more intimate setting, but to stop touring makes perfect sense to me.
In fact, one could argue they should have made this decision earlier. Musically, a stadium concert doesn't contribute that much (and more often many songs sound worse on stage) and touring must be grueling at their age.
It might even be (but this is wishful thinking) the start of a "more mature and insightful" approach to music, as Keith always was going on about in the 80s.

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Keith was sitting down at times during shows in the last US tour. He just may, as Antoine noted, have come to terms with his age. He may not be able to stand and play at a level he's pleased with through an entire tour's worth of concerts.

So why did he agree to record the album and start booking process? If he came o terms with his age in 2024, why did they spend entire 2025 recording the new album and then start booking the tour? They spent so much effort, energy and money in the new album just to pull the plug just before tour announcement because Keith felt he's too old already in 2024? That does not make sense. If this was the case he should have called it quit one year ago or retire after the next tour.

Well, recording is one thing; touring another. Whilst Keith's age - in his case, at least - may dictate a decision to cease touring - not necessarily not performing full-stop - recording an an album and being active as a unit in other ways, is still possible, and - hopefully, fingers-crossed - something he's still keen on. I don't see a reason to not be treated a to a big promotion and lots of activity next year. It just won't be concerts.

That's not my point. They commited to record the album with touring in mind. We know it, because there was a tour being booked as recent as 2 weeks ago. And it was a full scale stadium tour. So it wasn't the case of "we're too old to tour but we will keep recording albums" (kinda Elton John did a couple of years ago). Keith is too professional and too loyal to the Rolling Stones to quit touring at the worst possible moment, when album is being pressed and tour being booked, just because he "matured" and "thinks is too old". There must be more serious reason.

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Keith was sitting down at times during shows in the last US tour. He just may, as Antoine noted, have come to terms with his age. He may not be able to stand and play at a level he's pleased with through an entire tour's worth of concerts.

So why did he agree to record the album and start booking process? If he came o terms with his age in 2024, why did they spend entire 2025 recording the new album and then start booking the tour? They spent so much effort, energy and money in the new album just to pull the plug just before tour announcement because Keith felt he's too old already in 2024? That does not make sense. If this was the case he should have called it quit one year ago or retire after the next tour.

Well, recording is one thing; touring another. Whilst Keith's age - in his case, at least - may dictate a decision to cease touring - not necessarily not performing full-stop - recording an an album and being active as a unit in other ways, is still possible, and - hopefully, fingers-crossed - something he's still keen on. I don't see a reason to not be treated a to a big promotion and lots of activity next year. It just won't be concerts.

That's not my point. They commited to record the album with touring in mind. We know it, because there was a tour being booked as recent as 2 weeks ago. And it was a full scale stadium tour. So it wasn't the case of "we're too old to tour but we will keep recording albums" (kinda Elton John did a couple of years ago). Keith is too professional and too loyal to the Rolling Stones to quit touring at the worst possible moment, when album is being pressed and tour being booked, just because he "matured" and "thinks is too old". There must be more serious reason.

Maybe. But the reports said that it was after they discussed the details of the potential tour he said he couldn't commit to it. So it's very likely that it had something to do with the "tour regime" itself as well.

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Maybe. But the reports said that it was after they discussed the details of the potential tour he said he couldn't commit to it. So it's very likely that it had something to do with the "tour regime" itself as well.

I don't buy it. They know their "tour regime". They've been doing this for 63 years. If this was the issue they would've not started booking tour at all.

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Maybe. But the reports said that it was after they discussed the details of the potential tour he said he couldn't commit to it. So it's very likely that it had something to do with the "tour regime" itself as well.

I don't buy it. They know their "tour regime". They've been doing this for 63 years. If this was the issue they would've not started booking tour at all.

I tend to think so too

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Keith was sitting down at times during shows in the last US tour. He just may, as Antoine noted, have come to terms with his age. He may not be able to stand and play at a level he's pleased with through an entire tour's worth of concerts.

So why did he agree to record the album and start booking process? If he came o terms with his age in 2024, why did they spend entire 2025 recording the new album and then start booking the tour? They spent so much effort, energy and money in the new album just to pull the plug just before tour announcement because Keith felt he's too old already in 2024? That does not make sense. If this was the case he should have called it quit one year ago or retire after the next tour.

Well, recording is one thing; touring another. Whilst Keith's age - in his case, at least - may dictate a decision to cease touring - not necessarily not performing full-stop - recording an an album and being active as a unit in other ways, is still possible, and - hopefully, fingers-crossed - something he's still keen on. I don't see a reason to not be treated a to a big promotion and lots of activity next year. It just won't be concerts.

That's not my point. They commited to record the album with touring in mind. We know it, because there was a tour being booked as recent as 2 weeks ago. And it was a full scale stadium tour. So it wasn't the case of "we're too old to tour but we will keep recording albums" (kinda Elton John did a couple of years ago). Keith is too professional and too loyal to the Rolling Stones to quit touring at the worst possible moment, when album is being pressed and tour being booked, just because he "matured" and "thinks is too old". There must be more serious reason.

well according to the rumors mick wanted to release the album this month but there were problems with that and it was pushed to spring

origianlly the tour was not directly linked to the albums promotion

futhermore what we often see as them planning a tour and then suddenly pulling the plug for unkown and sinister reasons is likely far less dramatic in reality

from what i understand it's not so much they themselves book these tours as much as they task others to book venues and do the other early arrangements for a possible tour while they jet around world and spend time with there familes so that when they meet as a band to plan what there gonna do over the next year it's an option on the table and they disscus it and either it happens or it doesn't happen and they go home

that's it and this time keith said no for reason we don't know and before mick said no for reasons we don't know



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I don't know if this link/article is crap, but anyway:


[www.mirror.co.uk]

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Maybe. But the reports said that it was after they discussed the details of the potential tour he said he couldn't commit to it. So it's very likely that it had something to do with the "tour regime" itself as well.

I don't buy it. They know their "tour regime". They've been doing this for 63 years. If this was the issue they would've not started booking tour at all.

They haven't played two gigs a week and waited around town for 63 years.

The logical thing for Mick to do now if he really was ready to tour and play some of the new album next Spring is to play some dates with Andrew Watt. I think he's kind of been Keith's replacement all along.

I'm going to stick my neck out, that's my prediction.

Will we ever know the final word of this disband. Not sure. The same reason that prevails in 2025 could be the same for 2026. Charlie was the backbone. I rarely listen to HD, but when I listen to it I don’t feel a lot of involment by Keith. I guess his part in the opus will be minimalistic. That’s what it is. Let him lives his Life. And appear from time to time on a 20 minutes show with bluesmen.

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The logical thing for Mick to do now if he really was ready to tour and play some of the new album next Spring is to play some dates with Andrew Watt. I think he's kind of been Keith's replacement all along.

I'm going to stick my neck out, that's my prediction.

Forget it. No Keith no Rolling Stones. And also: Keith is an emotional person and always said: No Charlie no Rolling Stones.Maybe after several gigs with drummer Jordan, Keith made his real feelings come through for good. Who knows, just my imagination.



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Maybe. But the reports said that it was after they discussed the details of the potential tour he said he couldn't commit to it. So it's very likely that it had something to do with the "tour regime" itself as well.

I don't buy it. They know their "tour regime". They've been doing this for 63 years. If this was the issue they would've not started booking tour at all.

It's not that hard to imagine that at a certain age, health problems might become more acute, sometimes at short time notice. It doesn't even have to be necessarily of a grave nature, just inconveniences.
The Stones have reached that "certain age" a long time ago, so it's easy to understand how at a certain point they were confronted with some problems that made touring impossible.
We have seen other bands that suddenly had to cancel touring, sometimes when the tour was well under way even, which is worse, obviously.

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I don't know if this link/article is crap, but anyway:


[www.mirror.co.uk]

thanks

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I don't know if this link/article is crap, but anyway:


[www.mirror.co.uk]

thanks

nothing new though

Sorry, it was news to me today.

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It says Keith doesent want to tour.So why Are you still talking about Jagger?

It being the Sun, so I don't know how trustworthy that paper is, nor their anonymous "source".

However, Marlon did say that he and his family hoped that Keith wouldn't do more big tours.

If that's true (where did Marlon say that?) i fully understand.
Keith creatively may want to get away from Mick. I don't think the Glimmer Twins have seen eye to eye on what they think the Stones should sound like for decades. just how much passion does Keith have left to play Miss You and IORR live.
He's been loyal to Mick but it can only go so far at their age's now, Keith certainly isn't interested in the money offered for a Stadium tour, he probably wants every move he makes now to count towards something he wants to play and sing.

He was a guest (via link) on a Stones event in Oslo. Great guy, with buckets full of charm. However, he said that he and his family hoped that Keith wouldn't do more big tours.

this right here is what i assume is his reason

his family just doesn't want him to tour anymore



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I don't know if this link/article is crap, but anyway:

[www.mirror.co.uk]

Posted here a couple days ago. The Mirror just parroted The Sun story.

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The logical thing for Mick to do now if he really was ready to tour and play some of the new album next Spring is to play some dates with Andrew Watt. I think he's kind of been Keith's replacement all along.

I'm going to stick my neck out, that's my prediction.

Forget it. No Keith no Rolling Stones. And also: Keith is an emotional person and always said: No Charlie no Rolling Stones.Maybe after several gigs with drummer Jordan, Keith made his real feelings come through for good. Who knows, just my imagination.

I don't think Mick would tour as the Stones but he can play the new material.

It's possible but remember Steve is Keith's drummer and good friend. .

We don't know what has happened between the band members, Mick and Keith and even Ronnie too ( Ronnie looked physically drained walking to the studio recently ) might have had a bad experience making the new album, as you say Keith's an emotional man, if there has been a difference of opinion creatively Keith might not want to commit with the Stones, i think this was coming after the last album, clearly Keith let Mick do his thing last time.

Look it might just be that Keith doesn't like the sound of the tour regime as DP pointed out, was he wanting to play arena's not Stadiums, it's anyone's guess.

I'm not convinced Keith doesn't want to play anymore, he played last month and was enjoying himself.

And the new album has been delayed to next year, maybe Keith expected he was going to have more input this time , just my imagination also.

As if the size of the venues has anything to do with it.



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It's been great.

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As if the size of the venues has anything to do with it.

Keith's been saying repeatedly that he doesn't like playing outside when God steps in with the wind and the rain and also the sound gets blown around into pockets.
Plus he's 82 man, have you noticed how much clothing he keeps on until he sings, cold evenings, give it some thought, like the gigs in the desert that messed with Mick's voice, is it necessary to play Stadiums at their age's, do they really need big paydays now.

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As if the size of the venues has anything to do with it.

Keith's been saying repeatedly that he doesn't like playing outside when God steps in with the wind and the rain and also the sound gets blown around into pockets.
Plus he's 82 man, have you noticed how much clothing he keeps on until he sings, cold evenings, give it some thought, like the gigs in the desert that messed with Mick's voice, is it necessary to play Stadiums at their age's, do they really need big paydays now.

Solution to this would be an arena tour. They did an arena tour in 2013 and they did play some arenas/indoor stadiums on 2017 tour. You could find easily 15 arenas in Europe or at least 7 if they chose to play 2 shows per each city.

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Plus he's 82 man,.

Exactly.

how about we just discuss what's next

let's spend the night together is gonna be re-released as a remastered 4k blu-ray on jan 20th

after that i assume we won't have anymore archive releases until after the album is released and whatever period of promotion set aside for it is over

now getting to the album

according to georgelick the album is being pressed so it's done

they originally planned for it to be released in spring but with the tour being called off that may have changed

i can't see it being delayed to long so let's say it's released between april and october next year

i assume we'll be treated to a similar wave of promotion to that of hackney diamonds possibly capped off with a short promo show in new york

(and save me the spiel about facing reality or being delusional a week or two rehearsal for a forty minute gig within driving distance of keith's house is not the same thing as two months rehearsal followed by four months of touring and 14-20 two hour stadium rock concerts)

after that they could get back in the studio and start recording another album

and maybe (maybe) mick changes his mind about residencies or they work out a short run of shows in new york near keith's home (once again not the same thing as a four month tour)

then on the archive side of things they have a lot of thing they can release

maybe with the end of touring and the need for something more lucrative to release from the vaults they'll finally decide to work with abcko so we can finally get the real super deluxes of beggar's banquet and let it bleed that we should have had years ago

plus a real emptying of the vaults from the early years of live shows and studio outtakes

perhaps a boxset of msg shows from 69 with a blu-ray of a complete performance (hope they got the petition) and maybe altamont

failing that i guess emotional rescue would have to be the next album up for the super deluxe treatment but that raises the question of what live wise could be included with it in the super deluxe maybe the concerts for the blind (were they professionally recorded?)

of course probably more wiltern style releases coming as well (echoplex 2013 please)

other things that have been rumored

a new greatest hits compilation has been rumored recently from reliable sources

what kind of bait could we get in that for those of us who have the last five greatest hits compilations new studio tracks or live stuff?

there have been rumors for years of mick working on a compilation of studio outtakes from the 80's and 90's and now possibly the 70's as well (lots of very good outtakes from the 70's leftover to work with maybe intentionally)

other related ideas

perhaps one more solo album from keith and ronnie (i can't see mick bothering as long as the stones are still recording new music) and maybe a few short shows (not a tour) from the winos

that faces album we've all heard about for years finally getting released followed by a reunion of what's left of the faces for a tour

as much as i depise the idea mick has talked enthusiastically about holographic stones shows

wasn't there supposed to be a biopic series about the band in devolpment by fx? (not keen on that either)

maybe mick and keith act some more in movies

would love if mick could sit down and finally write his autobiography or at least allow the one he wrote in the 80's to be released

also be nice if keith could update life with a couple more chapters cover the last nearly two decades since he finished writing it

anything else?

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Ronnie looked physically drained walking to the studio recently

well he looked fine at glastonbury with rod stewart and playing at ozzy's last show and at van morrison's 80th birthday show and recently playing with jools holland and playing at a wedding in texas

not to mention at the launch for his new compilation and a seemingly endless amount of social media apperance over the last year

oh and he'll be playing with jools holland at his new years show pretty soon as well

i'm gonna guess that ronnie is probably doing fine

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Solution to this would be an arena tour. They did an arena tour in 2013 and they did play some arenas/indoor stadiums on 2017 tour. You could find easily 15 arenas in Europe or at least 7 if they chose to play 2 shows per each city.

As others have said, Keith's decision has zero to do with the venue-size!

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how about we just discuss what's next

let's spend the night together is gonna be re-released as a remastered 4k blu-ray on jan 20th

after that i assume we won't have anymore archive releases until after the album is released and whatever period of promotion set aside for it is over

now getting to the album

according to georgelick the album is being pressed so it's done

they originally planned for it to be released in spring but with the tour being called off that may have changed

i can't see it being delayed to long so let's say it's released between april and october next year

i assume we'll be treated to a similar wave of promotion to that of hackney diamonds possibly capped off with a short promo show in new york

(and save me the spiel about facing reality or being delusional a week or two rehearsal for a forty minute gig within driving distance of keith's house is not the same thing as two months rehearsal followed by four months of touring and 14-20 two hour stadium rock concerts)

after that they could get back in the studio and start recording another album

and maybe (maybe) mick changes his mind about residencies or they work out a short run of shows in new york near keith's home (once again not the same thing as a four month tour)

then on the archive side of things they have a lot of thing they can release

maybe with the end of touring and the need for something more lucrative to release from the vaults they'll finally decide to work with abcko so we can finally get the real super deluxes of beggar's banquet and let it bleed that we should have had years ago

plus a real emptying of the vaults from the early years of live shows and studio outtakes

perhaps a boxset of msg shows from 69 with a blu-ray of a complete performance (hope they got the petition) and maybe altamont

failing that i guess emotional rescue would have to be the next album up for the super deluxe treatment but that raises the question of what live wise could be included with it in the super deluxe maybe the concerts for the blind (were they professionally recorded?)

of course probably more wiltern style releases coming as well (echoplex 2013 please)

other things that have been rumored

a new greatest hits compilation has been rumored recently from reliable sources

what kind of bait could we get in that for those of us who have the last five greatest hits compilations new studio tracks or live stuff?

there have been rumors for years of mick working on a compilation of studio outtakes from the 80's and 90's and now possibly the 70's as well (lots of very good outtakes from the 70's leftover to work with maybe intentionally)

other related ideas

perhaps one more solo album from keith and ronnie (i can't see mick bothering as long as the stones are still recording new music) and maybe a few short shows (not a tour) from the winos

that faces album we've all heard about for years finally getting released followed by a reunion of what's left of the faces for a tour

as much as i depise the idea mick has talked enthusiastically about holographic stones shows

wasn't there supposed to be a biopic series about the band in devolpment by fx? (not keen on that either)

maybe mick and keith act some more in movies

would love if mick could sit down and finally write his autobiography or at least allow the one he wrote in the 80's to be released

also be nice if keith could update life with a couple more chapters cover the last nearly two decades since he finished writing it

anything else?

Well, that's quite a lot to unpack, Sir!

The Stones doing a mini-performance as part of the album launch I can envisage, but it isn't something they've regularly done previously. As for a follow-up to the as-of-yet released album? I feel the next one will be the last, personally. That's just me, and certainly don't begrudge those who think further releases are possible.

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Keith is soon to turn 82. Isn’t it time, surely?

Ringo is still touring at almost 86 years old - [www.RingoStarr.com] .

And yet average lifespan for a male is still around 76

Almost! A quick search lead me to discover that a Briton, like Keith, has a life expectancy of 79.1 if born in 1943.