Tell Me :
Talk
Ridiculous.
They would never play the Sphere.
What is there to prepare for?
It's music, not the dying of a sibling etc.
Me and some friends were talking the other day of Stones. They think maybe Mick will ask Mick Taylor to tour next year. Money talks. That’s just our opinion. Will see what happens if anything. I have no idea what Taylor is up to these days haven’t heard anything. It’s just a thought.
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You can prepare for whatever you want.
I'm always prepared, as well as pared, for a hurricane.
There's no "prepared" for the end of The Rolling Stones. No farewell tour, they will simply stop - or, ha ha - not go on tour.
How many years? People say A when reality is B - which means, the years they didn't tour.
"They've bee doing this for"... no they haven't. Actual years of touring is not the same as their existence. "They've been a band for" is even dubious. In name only between albums and tours...
However, that means zero now. They're old. It doesn't matter if they'd toured one more year than they didn't. It's now, not then. And very soon it won't matter anyway.
Mick Taylor hasn’t stepped on a stage in almost 13 years.
[www.setlist.fm]
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9 years. He played the Jack Bruce show in 2016.
Okay so Taylor presumably replaces Ronnie, who replaces Keith who won't and Mick who can't in this cover band.
Good catch, thanks
Yes because I'm guessing Mick can't tour as The Rolling Stones without Keith, i would have thought this common knowledge from a business perspective, they both own the Rolling Stones. It's 50/50 ownership, but i suppose Mick could tour as the Stones with Keith's permission and probably need to pay Keith his share even if Keith doesn't commit ( highly unlikely ).
They can fire off any band members but not each other, it's been this way for a long time ?
Also there's possibly much less profit in touring as solo artists, not enough demand, and for that reason i think Mick might come up with a tour plan that suits Keith if things calm down.
You mean, the Jack Bruce tribute show in 2016. Jack died in 2014.
I was there. It was titled, “An Evening For Jack”, held at Shepherd’s Bush Empire, London, October 25, 2016. The last song Mick T. played was also the last song played that night — Crossroads that was the final encore number featuring Terry Reid on the lead vocal.
Yep, the tribute show.
What a horrible scenario. I never would want such a show for the Stones. It wouldn't suit them. If they want to do final shows I hope they'll do them billed as album release concerts or something like that but please no official final show.
It’s not "health related" probably means he doesn't have something like cancer or a heart condition. That’s not interchangeable with aging.
Keith may just not want to put himself through the rigor of a long tour of Europe anymore. It need not be a particular health condition. It may just be increasingly difficult for him to do it - and not how he wants to spend that much time.
Is that “age related?” Sure. Is it "health related?" No.
Is it understandable? Yes.
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Yeah I'm perplexed by that also, it could be due to the attention from the media recently and how that might cause problems.
Yep. Your (and my) wish was their command.
I’d rather know we’ve seen the last of the Stones live than see them do this.
It made sense for Oz & Sabbath to do it. Oz hadn’t been onstage for a few years by that point and Bill Ward didn’t play the End tour so it was right he played with them one last time. The Stones IF they have played their last shows for me went out on a high a lot of bands never will. A tour behind a great album 60+ years into their career is an amazing end if the end it be.
There were quite a few bangs in Ridgedale. I believe it was the only 2024 to have pyro.
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Re: The Rolling Stones European Tour 2026 is off - What is next?
Posted by:
Stoneage
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Date: December 28, 2025 23:48
"They don't owe us anything" - someone actually claims that? Seems like that phrase is the obligatory truism around here. Easy to say, means nothing.
Re: The Rolling Stones European Tour 2026 is off - What is next?
Posted by:
WelshEdge1
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Date: December 29, 2025 01:56
They don't owe us anything
Re: The Rolling Stones European Tour 2026 is off - What is next?
Posted by:
GasLightStreet
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Date: December 29, 2025 04:22
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ds1984
Let's prepare for a farewell 75 minutes long concert run residency at the Sphere ?
Ridiculous.
They would never play the Sphere.
What is there to prepare for?
It's music, not the dying of a sibling etc.
Re: The Rolling Stones European Tour 2026 is off - What is next?
Posted by:
babyblue
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Date: December 29, 2025 04:26
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Stoneage
They will be back and see us in 2026 for the release of the new, already recorded, album. That much we know, I guess. About touring we can only guess. I think the odds are stacked up against it. But that's just an opinion.
Me and some friends were talking the other day of Stones. They think maybe Mick will ask Mick Taylor to tour next year. Money talks. That’s just our opinion. Will see what happens if anything. I have no idea what Taylor is up to these days haven’t heard anything. It’s just a thought.
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Re: The Rolling Stones European Tour 2026 is off - What is next?
Posted by:
GasLightStreet
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Date: December 29, 2025 04:40
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Rockman
....lets just prepare ....
You can prepare for whatever you want.
I'm always prepared, as well as pared, for a hurricane.
There's no "prepared" for the end of The Rolling Stones. No farewell tour, they will simply stop - or, ha ha - not go on tour.
How many years? People say A when reality is B - which means, the years they didn't tour.
"They've bee doing this for"... no they haven't. Actual years of touring is not the same as their existence. "They've been a band for" is even dubious. In name only between albums and tours...
However, that means zero now. They're old. It doesn't matter if they'd toured one more year than they didn't. It's now, not then. And very soon it won't matter anyway.
Re: The Rolling Stones European Tour 2026 is off - What is next?
Posted by:
RisingStone
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Date: December 29, 2025 05:44
“They don’t owe us anything” is a premise, not a conclusion.
Re: The Rolling Stones European Tour 2026 is off - What is next?
Posted by:
yorkshirestone
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Date: December 29, 2025 10:52
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babyblueQuote
Stoneage
They will be back and see us in 2026 for the release of the new, already recorded, album. That much we know, I guess. About touring we can only guess. I think the odds are stacked up against it. But that's just an opinion.
Me and some friends were talking the other day of Stones. They think maybe Mick will ask Mick Taylor to tour next year. Money talks. That’s just our opinion. Will see what happens if anything. I have no idea what Taylor is up to these days haven’t heard anything. It’s just a thought.
Mick Taylor hasn’t stepped on a stage in almost 13 years.
[www.setlist.fm]
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Re: The Rolling Stones European Tour 2026 is off - What is next?
Posted by:
DandelionPowderman
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Date: December 29, 2025 11:14
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yorkshirestoneQuote
babyblueQuote
Stoneage
They will be back and see us in 2026 for the release of the new, already recorded, album. That much we know, I guess. About touring we can only guess. I think the odds are stacked up against it. But that's just an opinion.
Me and some friends were talking the other day of Stones. They think maybe Mick will ask Mick Taylor to tour next year. Money talks. That’s just our opinion. Will see what happens if anything. I have no idea what Taylor is up to these days haven’t heard anything. It’s just a thought.
Mick Taylor hasn’t stepped on a stage in almost 13 years.
[www.setlist.fm]
9 years. He played the Jack Bruce show in 2016.
Re: The Rolling Stones European Tour 2026 is off - What is next?
Posted by:
keefriffhards
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Date: December 29, 2025 11:51
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babyblueQuote
Stoneage
They will be back and see us in 2026 for the release of the new, already recorded, album. That much we know, I guess. About touring we can only guess. I think the odds are stacked up against it. But that's just an opinion.
Me and some friends were talking the other day of Stones. They think maybe Mick will ask Mick Taylor to tour next year. Money talks. That’s just our opinion. Will see what happens if anything. I have no idea what Taylor is up to these days haven’t heard anything. It’s just a thought.
Okay so Taylor presumably replaces Ronnie, who replaces Keith who won't and Mick who can't in this cover band.
Re: The Rolling Stones European Tour 2026 is off - What is next?
Posted by:
yorkshirestone
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Date: December 29, 2025 12:01
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DandelionPowdermanQuote
yorkshirestoneQuote
babyblueQuote
Stoneage
They will be back and see us in 2026 for the release of the new, already recorded, album. That much we know, I guess. About touring we can only guess. I think the odds are stacked up against it. But that's just an opinion.
Me and some friends were talking the other day of Stones. They think maybe Mick will ask Mick Taylor to tour next year. Money talks. That’s just our opinion. Will see what happens if anything. I have no idea what Taylor is up to these days haven’t heard anything. It’s just a thought.
Mick Taylor hasn’t stepped on a stage in almost 13 years.
[www.setlist.fm]
9 years. He played the Jack Bruce show in 2016.
Good catch, thanks
Re: The Rolling Stones European Tour 2026 is off - What is next?
Posted by:
ds1984
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Date: December 29, 2025 13:14
No Rolling Stones without Keith (or Mick J).
Re: The Rolling Stones European Tour 2026 is off - What is next?
Posted by:
keefriffhards
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Date: December 29, 2025 14:17
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ds1984
No Rolling Stones without Keith (or Mick J).
Yes because I'm guessing Mick can't tour as The Rolling Stones without Keith, i would have thought this common knowledge from a business perspective, they both own the Rolling Stones. It's 50/50 ownership, but i suppose Mick could tour as the Stones with Keith's permission and probably need to pay Keith his share even if Keith doesn't commit ( highly unlikely ).
They can fire off any band members but not each other, it's been this way for a long time ?
Also there's possibly much less profit in touring as solo artists, not enough demand, and for that reason i think Mick might come up with a tour plan that suits Keith if things calm down.
Re: The Rolling Stones European Tour 2026 is off - What is next?
Posted by:
harlem shuffle
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Date: December 29, 2025 14:18
No tour without Jagger or Richards.No one could step in for none of them.
Re: The Rolling Stones European Tour 2026 is off - What is next?
Posted by:
RisingStone
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Date: December 29, 2025 14:47
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DandelionPowderman
9 years. He played the Jack Bruce show in 2016.
You mean, the Jack Bruce tribute show in 2016. Jack died in 2014.
I was there. It was titled, “An Evening For Jack”, held at Shepherd’s Bush Empire, London, October 25, 2016. The last song Mick T. played was also the last song played that night — Crossroads that was the final encore number featuring Terry Reid on the lead vocal.
Re: The Rolling Stones European Tour 2026 is off - What is next?
Posted by:
DandelionPowderman
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Date: December 29, 2025 16:35
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DandelionPowderman
9 years. He played the Jack Bruce show in 2016.
You mean, the Jack Bruce tribute show in 2016. Jack died in 2014.
I was there. It was titled, “An Evening For Jack”, held at Shepherd’s Bush Empire, London, October 25, 2016. The last song Mick T. played was also the last song played that night — Crossroads that was the final encore number featuring Terry Reid on the lead vocal.
Yep, the tribute show.
Re: The Rolling Stones European Tour 2026 is off - What is next?
Posted by:
SoulSurvivor1990
()
Date: December 29, 2025 17:08
The Stones without Mick or especially Keith is a ridiculous proposition.
More than any other member, Keith is the foundation of the band. People can emulate him technically, but the feel, tone, timing, and rhythmic instinct that has driven their music all derive from him. He is the Human Riff for a reason.
Mick tried in 1988; he had one of the most accomplished technical players in the world as his guitarist. Satriani couldn't come close to doing what Keith did.
The reason Jordan was such a successful replacement for Charlie was because he knew how to play through Keith the way Charlie did. It wasn’t an exact replica but Steve managed to approximate Charlie’s swing through Keith.
It would be a fundamentally different band without Keith, musically and spiritually. The ‘immortal’ mythos that keeps the band’s legacy alive is due to Keith’s stupefying endurance.
There is really no Stones without Keith.
My wish is for them to do a ‘Back to Beginning’ type concert in Hyde Park. Broadcast it live to full arenas around the country. Have showings at MSG, the Hollywood Bowl, Red Rocks, Wembley etc. Full houses with huge screens. The biggest farewell for the biggest band.
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More than any other member, Keith is the foundation of the band. People can emulate him technically, but the feel, tone, timing, and rhythmic instinct that has driven their music all derive from him. He is the Human Riff for a reason.
Mick tried in 1988; he had one of the most accomplished technical players in the world as his guitarist. Satriani couldn't come close to doing what Keith did.
The reason Jordan was such a successful replacement for Charlie was because he knew how to play through Keith the way Charlie did. It wasn’t an exact replica but Steve managed to approximate Charlie’s swing through Keith.
It would be a fundamentally different band without Keith, musically and spiritually. The ‘immortal’ mythos that keeps the band’s legacy alive is due to Keith’s stupefying endurance.
There is really no Stones without Keith.
My wish is for them to do a ‘Back to Beginning’ type concert in Hyde Park. Broadcast it live to full arenas around the country. Have showings at MSG, the Hollywood Bowl, Red Rocks, Wembley etc. Full houses with huge screens. The biggest farewell for the biggest band.
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Re: The Rolling Stones European Tour 2026 is off - What is next?
Posted by:
hockenheim95
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Date: December 29, 2025 20:29
Quote
SoulSurvivor1990
My wish is for them to do a ‘Back to Beginning’ type concert in Hyde Park. Broadcast it live to full arenas around the country. Have showings at MSG, the Hollywood Bowl, Red Rocks, Wembley etc. Full houses with huge screens. The biggest farewell for the biggest band.
What a horrible scenario. I never would want such a show for the Stones. It wouldn't suit them. If they want to do final shows I hope they'll do them billed as album release concerts or something like that but please no official final show.
Re: The Rolling Stones European Tour 2026 is off - What is next?
Posted by:
PiotrRSpl
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Date: December 29, 2025 20:48
The notion of The Stones performing without Keith is absurd - and it would be nothing short of a disaster for their legacy. They know better than to even toy with the idea.
Re: The Rolling Stones European Tour 2026 is off - What is next?
Posted by:
Send It To me
()
Date: December 29, 2025 22:15
Keith won't or can't tour but "it's not health related" just continues to perplex me as I can't think of anything besides health that would lead to that. (I would say "aging" and "health" are interchangeable here.)
Re: The Rolling Stones European Tour 2026 is off - What is next?
Posted by:
saltoftheearth
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Date: December 29, 2025 22:25
Quote
SoulSurvivor1990
The Stones without Mick or especially Keith is a ridiculous proposition.
More than any other member, Keith is the foundation of the band. People can emulate him technically, but the feel, tone, timing, and rhythmic instinct that has driven their music all derive from him. He is the Human Riff for a reason.
...
This reminds me of something Alexis Kornes said to me in 1980: Keith is the worst guitarist in the world but nobody does it better than him.
I remember Alexis as a great artist and one of the kindest people I have ever met.
Re: The Rolling Stones European Tour 2026 is off - What is next?
Posted by:
saltoftheearth
()
Date: December 29, 2025 22:26
This reminds me of something Alexis Korner said to me in 1980: Keith is the worst guitarist in the world but nobody does it better than him.
I remember Alexis as a great artist and one of the kindest people I have ever met.
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I remember Alexis as a great artist and one of the kindest people I have ever met.
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Re: The Rolling Stones European Tour 2026 is off - What is next?
Posted by:
saltoftheearth
()
Date: December 29, 2025 22:46
There might be another reason for cancelling the tour of Europe. I have the impression that in the U.S. people go to see legends in concert regardless of how they perform. I mean, in all honesty Paul McCartney has lost it's voice, and it is painful to see Willie Nelson coughing and struggling through his sets. No offence here, as age is catching up with everybody, and I'm a fan of both artists' classic albums.
In Europe people seem to be more critical, and the question remains if the Stones would actually be able to fill stadiums any more. Just a point for discussion.
Of course there would be possibilities to avoid a wearing months-long tour if this was the real problem.
In Europe people seem to be more critical, and the question remains if the Stones would actually be able to fill stadiums any more. Just a point for discussion.
Of course there would be possibilities to avoid a wearing months-long tour if this was the real problem.
Re: The Rolling Stones European Tour 2026 is off - What is next?
Posted by:
bam
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Date: December 29, 2025 23:08
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Send It To me
Keith won't or can't tour but "it's not health related" just continues to perplex me as I can't think of anything besides health that would lead to that. (I would say "aging" and "health" are interchangeable here.)
It’s not "health related" probably means he doesn't have something like cancer or a heart condition. That’s not interchangeable with aging.
Keith may just not want to put himself through the rigor of a long tour of Europe anymore. It need not be a particular health condition. It may just be increasingly difficult for him to do it - and not how he wants to spend that much time.
Is that “age related?” Sure. Is it "health related?" No.
Is it understandable? Yes.
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Re: The Rolling Stones European Tour 2026 is off - What is next?
Posted by:
keefriffhards
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Date: December 29, 2025 23:21
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Send It To me
Keith won't or can't tour but "it's not health related" just continues to perplex me as I can't think of anything besides health that would lead to that. (I would say "aging" and "health" are interchangeable here.)
Yeah I'm perplexed by that also, it could be due to the attention from the media recently and how that might cause problems.
Re: The Rolling Stones European Tour 2026 is off - What is next?
Posted by:
vibrolux
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Date: December 29, 2025 23:29
I guess I'll jump back in here. I can't see a world where any band called The Rolling Stones does not include both Jagger and Richards. No Jagger, no Stones. No Richards, no Stones.
I watched my very vibrant dad who lived to 98 get older year by year. He was always more vibrant than his friends who were the same age, but age takes it's toll even with the eternal Keith Richards. I suspect that he probably could tour if he absolutely had to, but as we age, stuff that was easy in our 60s is harder in our 70s, and even harder in our 80s. If he doesn't feel that he do a tour of solid two hour shows, then he's wise to call it.
I went to 2 shows in July '24. Had they slowed down a bit? Sure. Had they "jumped the shark?" Absolutely not. (If you don't know the "jump the shark" reference, Google it.)
The Stones have done everything we had hoped for and more. Every time I've seen them since 1999, I've been sure it was the last time. Fifteen shows later, I'm beyond grateful for their endurance.
But it's easy to see that Mick and Keith each have their minimum standard for their ability to do a 15ish show tour of two hour shows. And it's easy to see how, at 82, either of them could decide that they don't don't have the fuel in the tank to do it at a level they'd be proud to present.
The Rolling Stones have nothing to prove and their legacy is stellar. There's no reason to head out again if there's any chance of tarnishing that legacy.
I watched my very vibrant dad who lived to 98 get older year by year. He was always more vibrant than his friends who were the same age, but age takes it's toll even with the eternal Keith Richards. I suspect that he probably could tour if he absolutely had to, but as we age, stuff that was easy in our 60s is harder in our 70s, and even harder in our 80s. If he doesn't feel that he do a tour of solid two hour shows, then he's wise to call it.
I went to 2 shows in July '24. Had they slowed down a bit? Sure. Had they "jumped the shark?" Absolutely not. (If you don't know the "jump the shark" reference, Google it.)
The Stones have done everything we had hoped for and more. Every time I've seen them since 1999, I've been sure it was the last time. Fifteen shows later, I'm beyond grateful for their endurance.
But it's easy to see that Mick and Keith each have their minimum standard for their ability to do a 15ish show tour of two hour shows. And it's easy to see how, at 82, either of them could decide that they don't don't have the fuel in the tank to do it at a level they'd be proud to present.
The Rolling Stones have nothing to prove and their legacy is stellar. There's no reason to head out again if there's any chance of tarnishing that legacy.
Re: The Rolling Stones European Tour 2026 is off - What is next?
Posted by:
DeanGoodman
()
Date: December 30, 2025 00:08
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hockenheim95
please no official final show.
Yep. Your (and my) wish was their command.
Re: The Rolling Stones European Tour 2026 is off - What is next?
Posted by:
RolfTheWolf
()
Date: December 30, 2025 00:17
I totally agree with you. And it would be sad, it they would go on tour and must quit it because they don't have the power anymore or Mick would have an accident whily jumping around on stage or Keith would have a heart attack.
And i believe it wouldn't fit the Stones to make a so called "Fare Well Tour"; it would be more their style to stop touring without a big ceremony. And why not just be working in the studio or maybee perform some little short gigs in a small club from time to time?
And i believe it wouldn't fit the Stones to make a so called "Fare Well Tour"; it would be more their style to stop touring without a big ceremony. And why not just be working in the studio or maybee perform some little short gigs in a small club from time to time?
Re: The Rolling Stones European Tour 2026 is off - What is next?
Posted by:
ProfessorWolf
()
Date: December 30, 2025 02:31
i really hope they find a way to continue performing together onstage in a way that keith and the rest are comfortable with
and i understand why keith may feel uncomfortable touring the way they have been for the last decade or so and why his family may not want him to anymore either
i remembered this incident from 2015
it makes me cringe watching this and yes he gets back up and laughs it off but he was ten years younger
but now he's in his 80's and maybe if that happens again he doesn't get up this time
maybe he breaks an arm or a leg or a hip and lays there on the ground screaming in agony thousands of miles from home and his family in front of a stadium of strangers filming him on there phones and sharing it online for the world to see
does he want to risk that?
does his family?
do we as fans?
yes he's healthy now and maybe he's physically able to tour too
but he's in his 80's and one slip and then...
i'm not saying this would happen or that that's why he said no to the tour but honestly the idea scares the hell out of me and i can't imagine it hasn't occurred to him and the people around him that love him
and i understand why keith may feel uncomfortable touring the way they have been for the last decade or so and why his family may not want him to anymore either
i remembered this incident from 2015
it makes me cringe watching this and yes he gets back up and laughs it off but he was ten years younger
but now he's in his 80's and maybe if that happens again he doesn't get up this time
maybe he breaks an arm or a leg or a hip and lays there on the ground screaming in agony thousands of miles from home and his family in front of a stadium of strangers filming him on there phones and sharing it online for the world to see
does he want to risk that?
does his family?
do we as fans?
yes he's healthy now and maybe he's physically able to tour too
but he's in his 80's and one slip and then...
i'm not saying this would happen or that that's why he said no to the tour but honestly the idea scares the hell out of me and i can't imagine it hasn't occurred to him and the people around him that love him
Re: The Rolling Stones European Tour 2026 is off - What is next?
Posted by:
Paddy
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Date: December 30, 2025 03:12
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SoulSurvivor1990
My wish is for them to do a ‘Back to Beginning’ type concert in Hyde Park. Broadcast it live to full arenas around the country. Have showings at MSG, the Hollywood Bowl, Red Rocks, Wembley etc. Full houses with huge screens. The biggest farewell for the biggest band.
What a horrible scenario. I never would want such a show for the Stones. It wouldn't suit them. If they want to do final shows I hope they'll do them billed as album release concerts or something like that but please no official final show.
I’d rather know we’ve seen the last of the Stones live than see them do this.
It made sense for Oz & Sabbath to do it. Oz hadn’t been onstage for a few years by that point and Bill Ward didn’t play the End tour so it was right he played with them one last time. The Stones IF they have played their last shows for me went out on a high a lot of bands never will. A tour behind a great album 60+ years into their career is an amazing end if the end it be.
Re: The Rolling Stones European Tour 2026 is off - What is next?
Posted by:
Dan
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Date: December 30, 2025 03:35
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ds1984
We have to live for the moment without clear explanation.
But we may be tempted to prefer made up answer than to stay in ignorance.
That is humanity.
The fact remains that there is an explanation and if you read between the lines it's probably staring us in the face, i mean everything came to an abrupt halt, BV started a tribute thread for final bows.
For me it was the ending i expected but much later, and obviously it was a horrible way for it to end, not with a bang but a whimper.
There were quite a few bangs in Ridgedale. I believe it was the only 2024 to have pyro.
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