I would take all their talk about "not making any money" with a grain of salt. If you listen to Wyman or Jagger you would actually think they have lived their lives as paupers.

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Touring economy is konwn to be a risky business.

But we are talking about the Rolling Stones - quite a successful band.

I mean, rock concert is basically come with your amp on a stage and play loud.

From the 80's onward, if you can't do money from just playing on a stage when you are the Rolling Stones it is because you just don't do something right.

The steel wheels decorum was only a costly extra. That was a lesson for them.

It was the tour they learned what it iwas was to be their own touring promoter.

I'd rather say what they learned is that there's big money to by made by touring. Especially since their fans base (as well as any other well know artist from the 60s fan base) had been quite weathly or at least well off by the end of the 80s.

That is so true and you know i never thought of it that way, Stones fans today can absolutely afford them.

Also their audience today, as shown here on iorr are generally articulate intelligent fans, a far cry from the rebellious working classes that was attracted to this band in the 60's and 70's.
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even large parts of the (skilled) working classes had moved upwards the social ladder by the 80s – more spare money, less working hours, more consumption.

Isn't that what i just said.

Their audiences grew up.



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I would take all their talk about "not making any money" with a grain of salt. If you listen to Wyman or Jagger you would actually think they have lived their lives as paupers.

Touring was often unprofitable and bands like Led Zeppelin, The Who and Rolling Stones toured Europe less in the 1970's and 1980's because it was a costly proposition not easily recouped thru ticket sales. In the 1990's with the European Union, more modern venues and new markets is when Europe came into it's own as a lucrative touring destination in it's own right along with most of the rest of the world.

However I can see having luxurious habits and multiple homes with "only" ten million in the bank and not much coming in might make you feel poor, relatively speaking.

USA is the number one market for touring.

Could this tour have been shelved because they lost their sponsors.

What sponsors?

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Could this tour have been shelved because they lost their sponsors.

What tour?

It was a rumoured tour, right? No dates were ever announced. Supposedly some stadiums were confirmed.

It's unlikely there were any sponsors lined up so far in advance since for a tour that didn't exist, as Mick has stated in the past, a sponsor or sponsors helps with stage costs, which used to help keep ticket costs down.

With no tour there's no need to line up sponsors for a stage that doesn't exist.

I find it doubtful that sponsors help with keeping ticket costs down considering the cost of the ticket in 2019 for where I was. As far as going to see anyone in the Superdome or the arena in New Orleans ever again it's extremely doubtful because the costs are stupidly high.

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Could this tour have been shelved because they lost their sponsors.

What tour?

It was a rumoured tour, right? No dates were ever announced. Supposedly some stadiums were confirmed.

It's unlikely there were any sponsors lined up so far in advance since for a tour that didn't exist, as Mick has stated in the past, a sponsor or sponsors helps with stage costs, which used to help keep ticket costs down.

With no tour there's no need to line up sponsors for a stage that doesn't exist.

I find it doubtful that sponsors help with keeping ticket costs down considering the cost of the ticket in 2019 for where I was. As far as going to see anyone in the Superdome or the arena in New Orleans ever again it's extremely doubtful because the costs are stupidly high.

When the Stones announced the 2024 tour they already had the sponsor AARP linned up in November the previous year. So these things are organised pre tour at the planning stage.

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When the Stones announced the 2024 tour they already had the sponsor AARP linned up in November the previous year. So these things are organised pre tour at the planning stage.

What do you think happened in November of 2023...

Here's a hint - it didn't happen in 2024 for 2025 or in 2025 for 2026.

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Could this tour have been shelved because they lost their sponsors.

No. They get advances from the promoter toward start up costs.

They are also using locally rented off the shelf equipment, so no custom stages to be designed, built and hauled around the world.

So a sponsor might be nice but it's not a necessary part of the equation. It never was actually.

Really

We have to live for the moment without clear explanation.

But we may be tempted to prefer made up answer than to stay in ignorance.

That is humanity.

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We have to live for the moment without clear explanation.

But we may be tempted to prefer made up answer than to stay in ignorance.

That is humanity.

The fact remains that there is an explanation and if you read between the lines it's probably staring us in the face, i mean everything came to an abrupt halt, BV started a tribute thread for final bows.

For me it was the ending i expected but much later, and obviously it was a horrible way for it to end, not with a bang but a whimper.

Here’s some facts:
- The official spokesperson said they will be back.
- The newsletter said they will see us.
- The 2026 summer tour does not happen.

Maybe I’m too much of an optimist but that doesn’t sound like doomsday to me.

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Here’s some facts:
- The official spokesperson said they will be back.
- The newsletter said they will see us.
- The 2026 summer tour does not happen.

Maybe I’m too much of an optimist but that doesn’t sound like doomsday to me.

The spokesperson didn't say they will be back. He said they will be back when they're ready. That's a whole different story because right now they're not ready and therefore no tour.

Google Bernard Doherty - worth sharing that he’s a bit more connected and senior than a junior spokesperson


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Likelihood of an amateur slip up/email? Highly unlikely I’d have thought, he was running PR for live aid when I was at school and represented McCartney, stones and Tina from 1990



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Here’s some facts:
- The official spokesperson said they will be back.
- The newsletter said they will see us.
- The 2026 summer tour does not happen.

Maybe I’m too much of an optimist but that doesn’t sound like doomsday to me.

The spokesperson didn't say they will be back. He said they will be back when they're ready. That's a whole different story because right now they're not ready and therefore no tour.

True but that doesn’t sound like the end of Stones concerts to me

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Here’s some facts:
- The official spokesperson said they will be back.
- The newsletter said they will see us.
- The 2026 summer tour does not happen.

Maybe I’m too much of an optimist but that doesn’t sound like doomsday to me.

The spokesperson didn't say they will be back. He said they will be back when they're ready. That's a whole different story because right now they're not ready and therefore no tour.

I feel you are nitpicking here TBHWY.

Ultimately, they may not be back onstage for a live performance. Hard to tell at this moment. But the possibility is there.

They will be back and see us in 2026 for the release of the new, already recorded, album. That much we know, I guess. About touring we can only guess. I think the odds are stacked up against it. But that's just an opinion.

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Here’s some facts:
- The official spokesperson said they will be back.
- The newsletter said they will see us.
- The 2026 summer tour does not happen.

Maybe I’m too much of an optimist but that doesn’t sound like doomsday to me.

The spokesperson didn't say they will be back. He said they will be back when they're ready. That's a whole different story because right now they're not ready and therefore no tour.

I feel you are nitpicking here TBHWY.

Ultimately, they may not be back onstage for a live performance. Hard to tell at this moment. But the possibility is there.

Of course there's a possibility that they will be playing on stage again as long AS they're alive. But Bernard Doherty didn't confirm that they will be back onstage again. That's not nitpicking, it's simply not true because the the necessary condition is that they're "good and ready".

Let's prepare for a farewell 75 minutes long concert run residency at the Sphere ?

....lets just prepare ....



ROCKMAN

Time will tell.

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Let's prepare for a farewell 75 minutes long concert run residency at the Sphere ?

Setlist

1. Start Me Up
2. Tumbling Dice
3. Gimme Shelter
4. You Can't Always Get What You Want
5. Honky Tonk Women
6. You Got The Silver
7. Miss You
8. Sympathy
9. Paint it Black
10. JJF
11. Satisfaction

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This isn't Talmudic study, y'all...

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Let's prepare for a farewell 75 minutes long concert run residency at the Sphere ?

Setlist

1. Start Me Up
2. Tumbling Dice
3. Gimme Shelter
4. You Can't Always Get What You Want
5. Honky Tonk Women
6. Midnight Rambler
7. You Got The Silver
8. Miss You
9. Sympathy
10. Paint it Black
11. JJF
12. Satisfaction

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They don’t OWN us anything. If there will be another tour or Some gigs I would be happy. But if they decided not to give concerts I am gratefull I have seen them multiple times live since 1990 and cherish those moments.
Hopefully they will clean up their vaults with some Nice releases.
Only time will tell and are the enjoying their time with their families

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They don’t OWN us anything. If there will be another tour or Some gigs I would be happy. But if they decided not to give concerts I am gratefull I have seen them multiple times live since 1990 and cherish those moments.
Hopefully they will clean up their vaults with some Nice releases.
Only time will tell and are the enjoying their time with their families

Just Christmas with family is all i can take , i gotta feeling we haven't seen the last of Mick or Keith on a stage.