Please guys, this was Keith last month, can you all watch it if you haven't yet and hopefully stop the fake Keith can't tour because of arthritis scenarios. Merry Christmas to all.
[www.facebook.com]

Quote
keefriffhards
Please guys, this was Keith last month, can you all watch it if you haven't yet and hopefully stop the fake Keith can't tour because of arthritis scenarios. Merry Christmas to all.
[www.facebook.com]

You must be young. His hands look extremely painful. I'm sure he can get through a few songs but the demands of a tour are probably just too much for him to tolerate. I'm sure he wishes he could. We can all see he still LOVES it.

Quote
steffialicia

Quote
keefriffhards
Please guys, this was Keith last month, can you all watch it if you haven't yet and hopefully stop the fake Keith can't tour because of arthritis scenarios. Merry Christmas to all.
[www.facebook.com]

You must be young. His hands look extremely painful. I'm sure he can get through a few songs but the demands of a tour are probably just too much for him to tolerate. I'm sure he wishes he could. We can all see he still LOVES it.

Keiths hands have been like that for 25 years.

Keith hasn't said he can't tour because of arthritis, he just said he can't commit to a tour now.

Quote
keefriffhards
Please guys, this was Keith last month, can you all watch it if you haven't yet and hopefully stop the fake Keith can't tour because of arthritis scenarios. Merry Christmas to all.
[www.facebook.com]

It's been a long time since I heard Keith play boogie like he did on Run Rudolph Run that night.

Quote
DandelionPowderman

Quote
keefriffhards
Please guys, this was Keith last month, can you all watch it if you haven't yet and hopefully stop the fake Keith can't tour because of arthritis scenarios. Merry Christmas to all.
[www.facebook.com]

It's been a long time since I heard Keith play boogie like he did on Run Rudolph Run that night.

Yeah and i thought he looked very healthy, happy and comfortable up there.

It's the sort of thing Keith usually does to show he's tour ready like he did a couple years ago in NYC at the Love Rocks show with the Winos.


I don't know what happened between Keith playing last month, being up for a pre planned tour and playing live in New York, then all of a sudden last minute he doesn't want to commit.

If it was because he didn't want to do Stadiums or preferred to do a more local tour with less traveling that would have already been discussed before, i find it strange he had a change of heart without an explanation. Just saying i don't want to commit and not giving a reason is odd.
Just leaving up to media speculation is even more odd.

I assume they will have to discuss why they stopped touring when the new album comes out and they have to promote it ?.

As I wrote before there must have been a strong reason for the change of the plan.
And that reason was not disclosed for the public.
We can hope it is some temporary obstacle.

Let's hope that it is just delayed a couple of months like in 2017...



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2025-12-26 15:24 by Stoneswolf.

Quote
keefriffhards
Please guys, this was Keith last month, can you all watch it if you haven't yet and hopefully stop the fake Keith can't tour because of arthritis scenarios. Merry Christmas to all.
[www.facebook.com]

Keith Shears?

"No Anchovies, Please"

Just for the record. I know it has been mentioned before here. The following was part of an e-mail sent out from RollingStones.com on Dec 23, 2025:



Bjornulf



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2025-12-26 14:05 by bv.

On Dec 18 USA TODAY publish this, as the only major media across the world:

"The band's rep Bernard Doherty told USA TODAY via email Dec. 18. "Nothing was confirmed but when they properly sat down to discuss the tour, Keith said he didn't think he could commit and wasn't keen on a big stadium tour for over four months at this time."

Then five days later, on Dec 23, RollingStones.com, their official marketing site, is telling the fans, via a Christmas card: "See you in 2026".

I have some questions here:

1. Why would Bernard Doherty blame Keith, on his birthday, for not touring in 2026?

2. Why do they say "See you in 2026"?

3. Any other explanations?

May be I will try to answer my own questions...

1. It was an unfortunate statement, may be not even authentic

2. The Dec 23 e-mail was built before the "Tour Off" message arrived

3. "See you" might mean "On record, on video, at a press conference, or actually at shows some place, even if it is not really a full tour.

Bjornulf



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2025-12-26 15:00 by bv.

Thanks BV.

But that only thickens the plot.

Or should i say the plot thickens

“See you in 2026”, I’m taking that at the very least an album release, anything more than that is a bonus

Thickens the plot Keefriffhard?What do you mean?A plot against little Keith?There Are some persons here,Who Are really very difficult to understand.

Quote
harlem shuffle
Thickens the plot Keefriffhard?What do you mean?A plot against little Keith?There Are some persons here,Who Are really very difficult to understand.

Sorry friend, it means we are no closer to knowing why there isn't a tour in the near future or possibly ever.
When it all settles down i think we might get a different scaled down tour health permitting.

Quote
keefriffhards
Thanks BV.

But that only thickens the plot.

Or should i say the plot thickens

There's no plot. They are 82.
I am 57 and walking up the stairs to my appartment already is a pain in the neck.
Stop thinking the Stones owe any of us anything.
For 20 years they were the best blues+soul+rock band in the world.
After that, they kept on doing their stuff, with varying results but at least it kept them busy. Good health to them. Having 47 pages discussing why a group of 80+ people don't want to go on tour seems absolutely ridiculous to me.

Quote
bv
On Dec 18 USA TODAY publish this, as the only major media across the world:

"The band's rep Bernard Doherty told USA TODAY via email Dec. 18. "Nothing was confirmed but when they properly sat down to discuss the tour, Keith said he didn't think he could commit and wasn't keen on a big stadium tour for over four months at this time."

Then five days later, on Dec 23, RollingStones.com, their official marketing site, is telling the fans, via a Christmas card: "See you in 2026".

I have some questions here:

1. Why would Bernard Doherty blame Keith, on his birthday, for not touring in 2026?

2. Why do they say "See you in 2026"?

3. Any other explanations?

May be I will try to answer my own questions...

1. It was an unfortunate statement, may be not even authentic

2. The Dec 23 e-mail was built before the "Tour Off" message arrived

3. "See you" might mean "On record, on video, at a press conference, or actually at shows some place, even if it is not really a full tour.

I guess answer No. 2 is correct. Large organizations are like big ships. It takes time to stop or redirect them. And they are often programmed long before time (If date = December 23 send Chrismas greetings to all subscribers using the pre-prepared design and text "Christmas [year]").

Quote
jumpingjackflash5
As I wrote before there must have been a strong reason for the change of the plan.
And that reason was not disclosed for the public.
We can hope it is some temporary obstacle.

I think the big misconception here was "change of plan." There was no plan until the band meeting. There were hold dates placed on stadiums, hotels and equipment rentals. Then they were released. They have done this every year since 2012. There were also tour dates in 1996 and 2008 that never happened.

BV given your answers to yourself, I feel:

*This guy Bernard Doherty should be fired for incompetence
*The current RS organization is sloppy. Attention to details lack, including the Hot Stuff error which will bother me the rest of my life

Just my feelings, I like attention to details

Quote
Maindefender
BV given your answers to yourself, I feel:

*This guy Bernard Doherty should be fired for incompetence
*The current RS organization is sloppy. Attention to details lack, including the Hot Stuff error which will bother me the rest of my life

Just my feelings, I like attention to details

Why do you like the Stones, if you like attention to details?
One of the things that make the Stones special is that at the best of times, they were sloppy, unpolished, with things going slightly askew. Where is the attention to details on Exile?
Like in "Street Finding Man", when the vocals "Cause in sleepy London town there's just no place for Street Finding Men" and then the backing vocals go "no", except for one, who says "yeah".
And any other band who would have stopped after Mick and Keith publicly were throwing dirt on each other. But the Stones shrugged and kept on.
I honestly don't understand why people are so upset that the Stones cancelled their tour. It seems the most natural thing in the world to me, and I don't care if it was Mick, Keith, Ronnie or whoever who said, hell no, let's not do it. It
shows they haven't completely succumbed yet to the "the show must go on" BS.

Quote
bv
Just for the record. I know it has been mentioned before here. The following was part of an e-mail sent out from RollingStones.com on Dec 23, 2025:

Who’s signature is on the postcard?

Quote
matxil

Quote
keefriffhards
Thanks BV.

But that only thickens the plot.

Or should i say the plot thickens

There's no plot. They are 82.
I am 57 and walking up the stairs to my appartment already is a pain in the neck.
Stop thinking the Stones owe any of us anything.
For 20 years they were the best blues+soul+rock band in the world.
After that, they kept on doing their stuff, with varying results but at least it kept them busy. Good health to them. Having 47 pages discussing why a group of 80+ people don't want to go on tour seems absolutely ridiculous to me.

You got me all wrong there, i want them to continue for themselves, it's their life blood. They don't owe us anything, they already gave me more than i ever deserved or expected.

Quote
matxil

Quote
Maindefender
BV given your answers to yourself, I feel:

*This guy Bernard Doherty should be fired for incompetence
*The current RS organization is sloppy. Attention to details lack, including the Hot Stuff error which will bother me the rest of my life

Just my feelings, I like attention to details

Why do you like the Stones, if you like attention to details?
One of the things that make the Stones special is that at the best of times, they were sloppy, unpolished, with things going slightly askew. Where is the attention to details on Exile?
Like in "Street Finding Man", when the vocals "Cause in sleepy London town there's just no place for Street Finding Men" and then the backing vocals go "no", except for one, who says "yeah".
And any other band who would have stopped after Mick and Keith publicly were throwing dirt on each other. But the Stones shrugged and kept on.
I honestly don't understand why people are so upset that the Stones cancelled their tour. It seems the most natural thing in the world to me, and I don't care if it was Mick, Keith, Ronnie or whoever who said, hell no, let's not do it. It
shows they haven't completely succumbed yet to the "the show must go on" BS.

I think you went too far. My response is specific to what I said, nothing else.

Quote
Kurt
Who’s signature is on the postcard?

I guess it's whoever goes by "xxx" (or the like) ...

Quote
doitywoik

Quote
Kurt
Who’s signature is on the postcard?

I guess it's whoever goes by "xxx" (or the like) ...

Kinda looks like ALO to me.

Mick Jagger 1982:

We don't make any money is one of the reasons (we don't tour Europe frequently). And life is only so long... And - we just figured we should really go because if it's gonna be (laughs) another 7 years, we may NEVER go again. I mean, that's a real - you've really got to face up to that (laughs). I mean, we'll never go again, that'll be the last time definitely we go to Europe, unless we go the year after. Not in this band, in this place, I mean... it's impossible.

[timeisonourside.com]

Mick commented on changing the stage for URBAN JUNGLE because it was too expensive to to the STEEL WHEELS stage.

Perhaps after the 1976 tour Mick figured, screw this, we don't make any money. Yet they toured in 1982, 1990, 1995, 1998 and 1999 - so obviously it was worth while.

Are the European tours more for the fans than the North/Central/South American tours? I can't imagine Mick knowing if he, particularly, made 1.5 million or 1.9 million makes him sing Wild Horses any better.

Touring economy is konwn to be a risky business.

But we are talking about the Rolling Stones - quite a successful band.

I mean, rock concert is basically come with your amp on a stage and play loud.

From the 80's onward, if you can't do money from just playing on a stage when you are the Rolling Stones it is because you just don't do something right.

The steel wheels decorum was only a costly extra. That was a lesson for them.

It was the tour they learned what it iwas was to be their own touring promoter.

Quote
Maindefender
BV given your answers to yourself, I feel:

*This guy Bernard Doherty should be fired for incompetence
*The current RS organization is sloppy. Attention to details lack, including the Hot Stuff error which will bother me the rest of my life

Just my feelings, I like attention to details

Bernard Doherty is a lovely man and has worked with the Rolling Stones for over 30 years. He is well respected within the inner circle.

Quote
ds1984
Touring economy is konwn to be a risky business.

But we are talking about the Rolling Stones - quite a successful band.

I mean, rock concert is basically come with your amp on a stage and play loud.

From the 80's onward, if you can't do money from just playing on a stage when you are the Rolling Stones it is because you just don't do something right.

The steel wheels decorum was only a costly extra. That was a lesson for them.

It was the tour they learned what it iwas was to be their own touring promoter.

I'd rather say what they learned is that there's big money to by made by touring. Especially since their fans base (as well as any other well know artist from the 60s fan base) had been quite weathly or at least well off by the end of the 80s.

Quote
slewan

Quote
ds1984
Touring economy is konwn to be a risky business.

But we are talking about the Rolling Stones - quite a successful band.

I mean, rock concert is basically come with your amp on a stage and play loud.

From the 80's onward, if you can't do money from just playing on a stage when you are the Rolling Stones it is because you just don't do something right.

The steel wheels decorum was only a costly extra. That was a lesson for them.

It was the tour they learned what it iwas was to be their own touring promoter.

I'd rather say what they learned is that there's big money to by made by touring. Especially since their fans base (as well as any other well know artist from the 60s fan base) had been quite weathly or at least well off by the end of the 80s.

That is so true and you know i never thought of it that way, Stones fans today can absolutely afford them.

Also their audience today, as shown here on iorr are generally articulate intelligent fans, a far cry from the rebellious working classes that was attracted to this band in the 60's and 70's.

I'm not saying I'm articulate or particularly intelligent, far from it and all that follows from that perspective.
What did Keith say, " rock and roll is all from the neck down", basically soul and balls.
Interlectualising this music kills it, you can't open it up to see what makes it tick.

Quote
keefriffhards

Quote
slewan

Quote
ds1984
Touring economy is konwn to be a risky business.

But we are talking about the Rolling Stones - quite a successful band.

I mean, rock concert is basically come with your amp on a stage and play loud.

From the 80's onward, if you can't do money from just playing on a stage when you are the Rolling Stones it is because you just don't do something right.

The steel wheels decorum was only a costly extra. That was a lesson for them.

It was the tour they learned what it iwas was to be their own touring promoter.

I'd rather say what they learned is that there's big money to by made by touring. Especially since their fans base (as well as any other well know artist from the 60s fan base) had been quite weathly or at least well off by the end of the 80s.

That is so true and you know i never thought of it that way, Stones fans today can absolutely afford them.

Also their audience today, as shown here on iorr are generally articulate intelligent fans, a far cry from the rebellious working classes that was attracted to this band in the 60's and 70's.
(…)

even large parts of the (skilled) working classes had moved upwards the social ladder by the 80s – more spare money, less working hours, more consumption.