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Opening night - Lisbon in May
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Tour start and album release expected late April. Venues are booked but tour will not be announced yet because then major costs start running, and they are all old and have a history of tours pulled off last minute 2019, 2020, 2023 and 2025. Berlin May and Munich early July. I will start the tour rumoured dates list when I have 3-4 trusted dates.

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Tour start and album release expected late April. Venues are booked but tour will not be announced yet because then major costs start running, and they are all old and have a history of tours pulled off last minute 2019, 2020, 2023 and 2025. Berlin May and Munich early July. I will start the tour rumoured dates list when I have 3-4 trusted dates.
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Karlos123
Just seen Hertha BSC might need the stadium 25 May if they play relegation. That nails it down to 27/28 May. No other options.
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Just seen Hertha BSC might need the stadium 25 May if they play relegation. That nails it down to 27/28 May. No other options.
Yep, in 1998, the original tour start would have been Fri, May 22nd at Berlin Olympic Stadium.
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Enough time to build up the Metallica stage und build down the Stone stage at the same time?
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Karlos123
Just seen Hertha BSC might need the stadium 25 May if they play relegation. That nails it down to 27/28 May. No other options.
Yep, in 1998, the original tour start would have been Fri, May 22nd at Berlin Olympic Stadium.
Berlin Olympic stadium:
8/9 or 10th May last match of Hertha BSC at home this season
23rd May cup final
30th May Metallica - special stage in the middle of the stadium
Show on 28/28? Enough time to build up the Metallica stage und build down the Stone stage at the same time?
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Thx again, BV.. Was it easy for you to find a hotel in Berlin with cancellation refund? I’ve started looking and so far none I have found offer a cancellation refund at all this far out (travel dates)
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Karlos123
I‘d be in doubt with 25 May. If Hertha plays Bundesliga promotion play offs they have the return match at Olympiastadion at exactly the same day - 25 May. Hertha just have to finish 3rd, which isn‘t unlikely.
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Thx again, BV.. Was it easy for you to find a hotel in Berlin with cancellation refund? I’ve started looking and so far none I have found offer a cancellation refund at all this far out (travel dates)
Very very very easy on booking com
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Thx again, BV.. Was it easy for you to find a hotel in Berlin with cancellation refund? I’ve started looking and so far none I have found offer a cancellation refund at all this far out (travel dates)
Very very very easy on booking com
Thank you. I always book directly with the hotel these day (all it took was one bad booking experience to drive me away from those sites).. I finally did find a refundable hotel further from the venue — Everything close by I think the dates are too far out and they wouldn’t offer free cancellations.. Appreciate your info tho!
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I‘d be in doubt with 25 May. If Hertha plays Bundesliga promotion play offs they have the return match at Olympiastadion at exactly the same day - 25 May. Hertha just have to finish 3rd, which isn‘t unlikely.
the risk of Hertha playing on that day is not that high (it is a risk though). What worries me more is the German cup final on May 23. Even if the Stones were to get access to the stadium right after the end of the match they'd had less than 48 hours to erect the stage etc. Thus a show at Berlin Olympic Stadium on May 25 is very unlikely.
Considering the rest of the tour: They won't do shows on June 17, 23 and 27 nor on July 1, 2, 5, 6, 10, 11, 14, 15, 18 and 19. (On the dates in June England will play their World Cup matches, on the dates in July England might play more matches – in case my understanding of the World Cup schedule is correct)
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The Worst.
It's starting to get exciting! Fingers crossed the tour will go on.
Good news about Berlin, but I really hope its Waldbühne and not Olympiastadion. Eventim has the worst set up for Stones concerts in Europe
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Karlos123
I‘d be in doubt with 25 May. If Hertha plays Bundesliga promotion play offs they have the return match at Olympiastadion at exactly the same day - 25 May. Hertha just have to finish 3rd, which isn‘t unlikely.
the risk of Hertha playing on that day is not that high (it is a risk though). What worries me more is the German cup final on May 23. Even if the Stones were to get access to the stadium right after the end of the match they'd had less than 48 hours to erect the stage etc. Thus a show at Berlin Olympic Stadium on May 25 is very unlikely.
Considering the rest of the tour: They won't do shows on June 17, 23 and 27 nor on July 1, 2, 5, 6, 10, 11, 14, 15, 18 and 19. (On the dates in June England will play their World Cup matches, on the dates in July England might play more matches – in case my understanding of the World Cup schedule is correct)
Even if the risk is low, the stadium will be booked that day even on the small possibility of Hertha playing. And I guess the DFL put a hold first.
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I‘d be in doubt with 25 May. If Hertha plays Bundesliga promotion play offs they have the return match at Olympiastadion at exactly the same day - 25 May. Hertha just have to finish 3rd, which isn‘t unlikely.
the risk of Hertha playing on that day is not that high (it is a risk though). What worries me more is the German cup final on May 23. Even if the Stones were to get access to the stadium right after the end of the match they'd had less than 48 hours to erect the stage etc. Thus a show at Berlin Olympic Stadium on May 25 is very unlikely.
Considering the rest of the tour: They won't do shows on June 17, 23 and 27 nor on July 1, 2, 5, 6, 10, 11, 14, 15, 18 and 19. (On the dates in June England will play their World Cup matches, on the dates in July England might play more matches – in case my understanding of the World Cup schedule is correct)
Even if the risk is low, the stadium will be booked that day even on the small possibility of Hertha playing. And I guess the DFL put a hold first.
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do you really think DFL puts a hold on some 20 stadiums some six month in advance on that day (i.e. stadiums for any team that might play relegation matches)?
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I‘d be in doubt with 25 May. If Hertha plays Bundesliga promotion play offs they have the return match at Olympiastadion at exactly the same day - 25 May. Hertha just have to finish 3rd, which isn‘t unlikely.
What worries me more is the German cup final on May 23. Even if the Stones were to get access to the stadium right after the end of the match they'd had less than 48 hours to erect the stage etc. Thus a show at Berlin Olympic Stadium on May 25 is very unlikely.
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PaintMonkeyManBlack
Waldbuhne is not logical since it would only gross half of a olympia show. Yes costs are lower, but that only offsets if this kinda show is the last one since you can discontinue staff you dont need
Also reading abour 800e pit prices. This was was 2017 i think but 2022 was better right?
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The Worst.
It's starting to get exciting! Fingers crossed the tour will go on.
Good news about Berlin, but I really hope its Waldbühne and not Olympiastadion. Eventim has the worst set up for Stones concerts in Europe
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Eventim runs Waldbühne…