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I'd always wished for a tour more stripped down, more grounded, like maybe '81 or '78.Quote
keefriffhards
Another Stones tour, mixed emotions about it, if they can't raise the standard above the level Roger and Pete just did then it's not something I'd want to witness.
At this point i can't help but think why, why another tour if its the same as the previous ones since 2005.
All of which pale into insignificance in comparison to the 2002/2003 tour that really rocked and incorporated Stadiums, Arena's and Theatres.
Having said that wishing for a miracle and hopefully they try something different / new.
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Yeah, it's hard to pass on the whole "excitement", such a unique experience ! The mad scramble to get tickets, making arrangements, getting there, finding a good spot, the build up and...bang, the boys pop up on stage full of energy, what's not to like !!!
Yes, but at the same time...
the mad scramble for tickets, making arrangements, getting there all are a pain in the ass!
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keefriffhards
if they can't raise the standard above the level Roger and Pete just did
They've been doing that for the last sixty years, don't see why now would be any different.
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keefriffhards
Another Stones tour, mixed emotions about it, if they can't raise the standard above the level Roger and Pete just did then it's not something I'd want to witness.
At this point i can't help but think why, why another tour if its the same as the previous ones since 2005.
All of which pale into insignificance in comparison to the 2002/2003 tour that really rocked and incorporated Stadiums, Arena's and Theatres.
Having said that wishing for a miracle and hopefully they try something different / new.
Few, but essential sidemen: keyboard, sax, done. God Bless Ian Stewart.
Serving the show, the song. No Las Vegas, no Bigband. Rawness, purity, maybe a string out of tune.
It won't happen. Actually nothing will happen until official confirmation.
There had to be a reason '25 was left out. Health, age, recovery, family issues?
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if they can't raise the standard above the level Roger and Pete just did
They've been doing that for the last sixty years, don't see why now would be any different.
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Not sure about that, i just watched The Who on YouTube from the 9.11 show for the fireman, Pete was kicking serious ass, it just blew me away.
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Stonesfan2146
Good points professorwolf.
I was also wondering if they would at least play Angry to European audiences from hackney diamonds. Maybe occasionally. Because the album went No 1 here in several countries. But their next album also has the potential to do so
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Stonesfan2146
Good points professorwolf.
I was also wondering if they would at least play Angry to European audiences from hackney diamonds. Maybe occasionally. Because the album went No 1 here in several countries. But their next album also has the potential to do so
absolutely
i'm sure they'll play at least angry maybe a few more here and there from hackney (look at how long doom & gloom and the blue and lonesome tracks stuck around)
but the emphasis of course will hopefully be on the new album that they'd be trying to promote

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Stonesfan2146
Good points professorwolf.
I was also wondering if they would at least play Angry to European audiences from hackney diamonds. Maybe occasionally. Because the album went No 1 here in several countries. But their next album also has the potential to do so
absolutely
i'm sure they'll play at least angry maybe a few more here and there from hackney (look at how long doom & gloom and the blue and lonesome tracks stuck around)
but the emphasis of course will hopefully be on the new album that they'd be trying to promote
I hope you're right. I suspect the emphasis will be on the warhorses, though
I hope they make WWW a staple in the setlist.
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Stonesfan2146
Good points professorwolf.
I was also wondering if they would at least play Angry to European audiences from hackney diamonds. Maybe occasionally. Because the album went No 1 here in several countries. But their next album also has the potential to do so
absolutely
i'm sure they'll play at least angry maybe a few more here and there from hackney (look at how long doom & gloom and the blue and lonesome tracks stuck around)
but the emphasis of course will hopefully be on the new album that they'd be trying to promote
I hope you're right. I suspect the emphasis will be on the warhorses, though
I hope they make WWW a staple in the setlist.
sorry i meant the emphasis on what new music they play will be on the new album not on the last
i share your hope about www in my opinion it's one of the only song from hackney that is actually improved by being played live
but angry was the big single and they played it death only playing www every other show
so i assume it'll be the mostly likely candidate for the song they'll play to represent hackney
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Yeah, it's hard to pass on the whole "excitement", such a unique experience ! The mad scramble to get tickets, making arrangements, getting there, finding a good spot, the build up and...bang, the boys pop up on stage full of energy, what's not to like !!!
Yes, but at the same time...
the mad scramble for tickets, making arrangements, getting there all are a pain in the ass!
Well if it was easy it would take out some of the "experience" ;-) Not really comparable but it's a bit like going skiing for a day or two, a massive hassle but when you're enjoying powder under the sun you can only smile ;-)
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ProfessorWolf
i share your hope about www in my opinion it's one of the only song from hackney that is actually improved by being played live
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if they can't raise the standard above the level Roger and Pete just did
They've been doing that for the last sixty years, don't see why now would be any different.
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Not sure about that, i just watched The Who on YouTube from the 9.11 show for the fireman, Pete was kicking serious ass, it just blew me away.
that show was a quarter of a century ago and none them where even in there 60's yet and the who were competing against a hastly put together perfomance by mick and keith not the rolling stones (anyway's david bowie blew them both away that night in my opinion)
the who were great on this last tour (despite the crazy crap about zak) and i watched every single show (as a glimpse thru the last few pages of the who thread will show) and i watched every stones show last year
and frankly it's not even close to me i'd rather watch the stones shows
also why would they need to raise the standard above the who?
maybe they could have chris jagger come on tour with them and see if he sings smu better then simon townsend sings going mobile
they could have mick sing to a recording of himself from 50 years ago on parts of jjf and we can see if mick does it better then rodger does on won't get fooled again
or mick could act like an obnoxious teenager throw a fit over some nonsense blame it on steve jordan fire him and then fight with him on social media
seriously though is it really fair or realistic to ask a group of men in there 80's to perfrom significantly different or better two hour stadium concerts?
is it not enough that they just consistently play well?
for what it's worth i think were probably in for a pretty interesting and different (within reason) series of shows if they tour next year
i mean last year as the tour went on they dropped miss you from several shows the shows got longer as it went on at some point keith was doing three song sets and they added more songs from the new album as it went on not less which was a shocker for some of us
this time they'll be playing europe not america where (in my observation) audiences seem less open to new or obscure music from them which let's be honest is the real reason they play pretty much nothing but warhorses
would you want to be mick up there pouring your heart out singing let it loose giving it all you've got then looking out over an audience of thousands of bored annoyed people looking at there phones or walking to the bathroom?
i personally excpect a kind of continuation of the 2024 tour with long sets filled with several new songs from the new album that there actually promoting with this tour (not waiting a year after it's released) to a more receptive audience along with a few stragglers from hackney so the european audience can get a taste of what america got in 2024 and a few deep cut surprises
probably they'll continue the keith's three song sets as a way of letting now approaching his mid eighties mick to rest a bit in the the middle of the show (maybe 4 song sets since it two years latter!)
maybe a few racket style club shows (as has been rumored) to start it all off and introduce the new album
no i think they've already raised the standard well above the who's last outing and i excpect that to continue
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keefriffhards
Another Stones tour, mixed emotions about it, if they can't raise the standard above the level Roger and Pete just did then it's not something I'd want to witness.
At this point i can't help but think why, why another tour if its the same as the previous ones since 2005.
All of which pale into insignificance in comparison to the 2002/2003 tour that really rocked and incorporated Stadiums, Arena's and Theatres.
Having said that wishing for a miracle and hopefully they try something different / new.
Few, but essential sidemen: keyboard, sax, done. God Bless Ian Stewart.
Serving the show, the song. No Las Vegas, no Bigband. Rawness, purity, maybe a string out of tune.
It won't happen. Actually nothing will happen until official confirmation.
There had to be a reason '25 was left out. Health, age, recovery, family issues?
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keefriffhards
Great post ProfessorWolf.
Unfortunately it's like a few of you are stuck in a loop within your own thoughts and so misinterprete what's actually said.
I replied to someone saying the Stones have always outperformed the Who. They clearly haven't always.
I said the Stones need to outperform the way the Who have recently played. We don't know what shape the Stones will be in next year live. ( personally i can't see it happening. )
My heart sank watching Pete on this last tour, he and Roger barely moved, I'd hate to see the remaining Stones tour in that shape, not just because it's sad but also because it won't be worth the ticket, the Stones have always been about giving you your money's worth, you don't go home disappointed for all your efforts to travel to see them.
At 83 years of age next year it becomes a crap shoot, too many variables at play, but like i say hopefully they can do something different this time rather than less energetic versions of the previous tours
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i share your hope about www in my opinion it's one of the only song from hackney that is actually improved by being played live
huh? I beg to differ.
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GeirGG
I would say that Mess it up was better live than on record. Las Vegas comes to mind. It took the roof of. Wasn’t a huge fan of it on record, but loved it live on more than one occasion.
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kkhoranstoned
is this insane another tour.i remember waiting in 2006 in sunrise Florida that morning. tickets to become available..didn't some of you stand outside the box office yeah i saw them play sway..good times



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… with the usual boredom of the 8 warhorses rounding out the show.
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kkhoranstoned
is this insane another tour.i remember waiting in 2006 in sunrise Florida that morning. tickets to become available..didn't some of you stand outside the box office yeah i saw them play sway..good times
..........aaah.....the good old days..............Memory Motel,Country Honk, Midnight Rambler, Heart Of Stone, Stupid Girl (in 1966 )!!,Ruby Tuesday, Sway,
MONKEY MAN!!!, You Can't Always Get What You Want (without "speeding" up the end of it), Lady Jane, The Spider And The Fly, Not Fade Away, Mother's Little Helper...................The GREAT old days!!!!!!
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i share your hope about www in my opinion it's one of the only song from hackney that is actually improved by being played live
huh? I beg to differ.
ok
in what way do you disagree with me?
just to clarify my position is that www (and ssoh) is one of the only songs from hackney that when they performed live it was better then the studio version
the other songs from hackney they performed were fine live but in my opinion weren't better then the studio versions
but you have a lot of first hand experience in how they sounded (not to mention access to much better recordings)
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Everything sounds better live than an overdubbed processed version on an album. Maybe a single version not performed well would be inferior but that's the exception.
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GeirGG
I would say that Mess it up was better live than on record. Las Vegas comes to mind. It took the roof of. Wasn’t a huge fan of it on record, but loved it live on more than one occasion.
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SoulSurvivor1990
Whole Wide World absolutely smoked live. The best rocker they've done since Saint of Me.