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Yes!! You are absolutely right.
Criss Cross has a guitar overdub by Wood, Claudine has a piano overdub and likely an acoustic guitar overdub.
I don't think We Had it All has a modern overdub.
Mathijs
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2025-10-01 15:55 by Mathijs.
I thought 100 years ago on the deluxe was from the 90s?!
As far as I know still not confirmed when it was recorded, but it sounds like the late 1980's or 1990's. There's more of these piano demo's, like Memory Motel and Time Waits for No One.
Mathijs
According to timeisonourside.com additional recordings were done April-June 2020. Looking at the lineup, it must have been Mick overdubbing some of the vocals.
Doesn't sound like a 90's Jagger. 100 Years Ago sounds absolutely authentic to me.
It was a hard one to distinguish re: '100 Years Ago' piano demo, it sounded so perfect you'd wonder was it really from 1972/1973. The voice seemed to me to be 70s Mick, but, like all of us, I'd be very interested too to know when this was actually done.
It's really hard to tell...but the piano sounds too modern to me, it doesn't sound like a 1970's acoustic piano but something from the late 1980's or 1990's. It doesn't sound like Nicky Hopkins to me as well, but more like Chuck Leavell or Matt Clifford.
Melody wise it certainly is not a demo as the melody and lyrics are fully developed. This version was recorded after the album version was recorded. The singing style and voice sound like 1970's Jagger to me, except for the middel 8, the 'You're gonna kiss and say good-bye' part sounds awfully lot like the Primitive Cool era Jagger, when he also did this piano version of Memory Motel.
In tape trading circles this version of 100 Years Ago was available for quite some time, coupled with Time Waits, Memory Motel and Fool to Cry that were labeled as '1993 Mick Jagger Piano demo's'. The label could be wrong of course, but at the time no one doubted the label.
Mathijs
It has the exact guitar and drum sound as Tumbling Dice, so likely from Nellcote 1971.
Mathijs
You are correct about Criss Cross, I mixed it up with Living in the Heart of Love, which has a Wood overdub.
Mathijs
Yeah, I could see him overdubbing more vocals.
Yes, this sounds right to me. Following the River and Sophia Loren as well.
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Outtakes on Exile, Goats, Some Girls and Tatoo re-releases
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INDIANO
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Date: September 30, 2025 19:05
Perhaps a difficult question and probably a long answer: which songs in the outtakes in question are completely original without overdubs? By exclusion, the remaining ones have had overdubs. This has certainly been discussed in various forums but I would try to summarize if possible. Thanks.
Re: Outtakes on Exile, Goats, Some Girls and Tatoo re-releases
Posted by:
gotdablouse
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Date: September 30, 2025 19:11
Good idea ! I looked into that myself a while back, going through the threads and couldn't come up with anything definitive. I was after those that didn't have a rerecorded vocal for a start but...there's probably none.
Hopefully the "jams" on B&B will be the first "untouched" outtakes !
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Hopefully the "jams" on B&B will be the first "untouched" outtakes !
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Re: Outtakes on Exile, Goats, Some Girls and Tatoo re-releases
Posted by:
kovach
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Date: September 30, 2025 21:35
I'm gonna guess 'zero'. And that's fine by me.
Re: Outtakes on Exile, Goats, Some Girls and Tatoo re-releases
Posted by:
slewan
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Date: September 30, 2025 23:01
most likely none!
Re: Outtakes on Exile, Goats, Some Girls and Tatoo re-releases
Posted by:
Taylor1
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Date: September 30, 2025 23:27
Maybe Sophia Loren?
Re: Outtakes on Exile, Goats, Some Girls and Tatoo re-releases
Posted by:
JordyLicks96
()
Date: October 1, 2025 00:32
Assuming you mean songs that aren't early versions or alternate takes of released tracks, going through each of the re-releases the only ones I can point to that do not have any overdubs are:
EXILE
Title 5
Goats
Criss Cross
Some Girls
Claudine
We Had It All
Petrol Blues
Tattoo You
Drift Away
EXILE
Title 5
Goats
Criss Cross
Some Girls
Claudine
We Had It All
Petrol Blues
Tattoo You
Drift Away
Re: Outtakes on Exile, Goats, Some Girls and Tatoo re-releases
Posted by:
Taylor1
()
Date: October 1, 2025 02:42
Didnt Wood add a guitar to Drift Away?Quote
JordyLicks96
Assuming you mean songs that aren't early versions or alternate takes of released tracks, going through each of the re-releases the only ones I can point to that do not have any overdubs are:
EXILE
Title 5
Goats
Criss Cross
Some Girls
Claudine
We Had It All
Petrol Blues
Tattoo You
Drift Away
Re: Outtakes on Exile, Goats, Some Girls and Tatoo re-releases
Posted by:
TravelinMan
()
Date: October 1, 2025 04:58
I don’t think Good Time Women or the Japanese version of All Down The Line have any modern overdubs.
I Ain’t Signifying has new harmonica I believe, but is very close to original.
Oh course, Soul Survivor is period authentic.
You can compare the instrumentals of Dancing in the Light and Aladdin’s Story to the bonus cuts to see what they’ve changed. Sophia Loren is not publicly available, but I’m not going to be mad if somebody wants to share it
I Ain’t Signifying has new harmonica I believe, but is very close to original.
Oh course, Soul Survivor is period authentic.
You can compare the instrumentals of Dancing in the Light and Aladdin’s Story to the bonus cuts to see what they’ve changed. Sophia Loren is not publicly available, but I’m not going to be mad if somebody wants to share it
Re: Outtakes on Exile, Goats, Some Girls and Tatoo re-releases
Posted by:
TravelinMan
()
Date: October 1, 2025 05:00
Goats: Hide Your Love sounds period authentic. So does 100 Years and the instrumentals. All the Rage just has new vocals.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2025-10-01 05:01 by TravelinMan.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2025-10-01 05:01 by TravelinMan.
Re: Outtakes on Exile, Goats, Some Girls and Tatoo re-releases
Posted by:
JordyLicks96
()
Date: October 1, 2025 07:52
Quote
Taylor1Didnt Wood add a guitar to Drift Away?Quote
JordyLicks96
Assuming you mean songs that aren't early versions or alternate takes of released tracks, going through each of the re-releases the only ones I can point to that do not have any overdubs are:
EXILE
Title 5
Goats
Criss Cross
Some Girls
Claudine
We Had It All
Petrol Blues
Yes!! You are absolutely right.
Re: Outtakes on Exile, Goats, Some Girls and Tatoo re-releases
Posted by:
JordyLicks96
()
Date: October 1, 2025 07:54
Quote
JordyLicks96
Assuming you mean songs that aren't early versions or alternate takes of released tracks, going through each of the re-releases the only ones I can point to that do not have any overdubs are:
EXILE
Title 5
Goats
Criss Cross
Some Girls
Claudine
We Had It All
Petrol Blues
Re: Outtakes on Exile, Goats, Some Girls and Tatoo re-releases
Posted by:
Mathijs
()
Date: October 1, 2025 11:49
Quote
JordyLicks96
Assuming you mean songs that aren't early versions or alternate takes of released tracks, going through each of the re-releases the only ones I can point to that do not have any overdubs are:
EXILE
Title 5
Goats
Criss Cross
Some Girls
Claudine
We Had It All
Petrol Blues
Criss Cross has a guitar overdub by Wood, Claudine has a piano overdub and likely an acoustic guitar overdub.
I don't think We Had it All has a modern overdub.
Mathijs
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2025-10-01 15:55 by Mathijs.
Re: Outtakes on Exile, Goats, Some Girls and Tatoo re-releases
Posted by:
hockenheim95
()
Date: October 1, 2025 12:52
Quote
TravelinMan
Goats: Hide Your Love sounds period authentic. So does 100 Years and the instrumentals. All the Rage just has new vocals.
I thought 100 years ago on the deluxe was from the 90s?!
Re: Outtakes on Exile, Goats, Some Girls and Tatoo re-releases
Posted by:
DandelionPowderman
()
Date: October 1, 2025 12:54
All The Rage definitely have new lyrics, too 
Re: Outtakes on Exile, Goats, Some Girls and Tatoo re-releases
Posted by:
Mathijs
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Date: October 1, 2025 13:06
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hockenheim95Quote
TravelinMan
Goats: Hide Your Love sounds period authentic. So does 100 Years and the instrumentals. All the Rage just has new vocals.
I thought 100 years ago on the deluxe was from the 90s?!
As far as I know still not confirmed when it was recorded, but it sounds like the late 1980's or 1990's. There's more of these piano demo's, like Memory Motel and Time Waits for No One.
Mathijs
Re: Outtakes on Exile, Goats, Some Girls and Tatoo re-releases
Posted by:
Christiaan
()
Date: October 1, 2025 13:29
Another question. Where comes the great song Plundered My Soul from. I can‘t find any bootlegs which sound like that song. Nothing with words, but also not the music. Not that I know or have all the bootlegs of course…. 
Re: Outtakes on Exile, Goats, Some Girls and Tatoo re-releases
Posted by:
TravelinMan
()
Date: October 1, 2025 14:12
I don’t think Wood was involved on the Goats project and the FFSO version of Criss Cross sounds like the released version. This song was done and ready to be used on the album until they swapped in Hide Your Love
Re: Outtakes on Exile, Goats, Some Girls and Tatoo re-releases
Posted by:
DandelionPowderman
()
Date: October 1, 2025 14:28
Quote
TravelinMan
I don’t think Wood was involved on the Goats project and the FFSO version of Criss Cross sounds like the released version. This song was done and ready to be used on the album until they swapped in Hide Your Love
According to timeisonourside.com additional recordings were done April-June 2020. Looking at the lineup, it must have been Mick overdubbing some of the vocals.
Re: Outtakes on Exile, Goats, Some Girls and Tatoo re-releases
Posted by:
z
()
Date: October 1, 2025 14:31
Quote
MathijsQuote
hockenheim95Quote
TravelinMan
Goats: Hide Your Love sounds period authentic. So does 100 Years and the instrumentals. All the Rage just has new vocals.
I thought 100 years ago on the deluxe was from the 90s?!
As far as I know still not confirmed when it was recorded, but it sounds like the late 1980's or 1990's. There's more of these piano demo's, like Memory Motel and Time Waits for No One.
Mathijs
Doesn't sound like a 90's Jagger. 100 Years Ago sounds absolutely authentic to me.
Re: Outtakes on Exile, Goats, Some Girls and Tatoo re-releases
Posted by:
IrelandCalling4
()
Date: October 1, 2025 14:37
Quote
zQuote
MathijsQuote
hockenheim95Quote
TravelinMan
Goats: Hide Your Love sounds period authentic. So does 100 Years and the instrumentals. All the Rage just has new vocals.
I thought 100 years ago on the deluxe was from the 90s?!
As far as I know still not confirmed when it was recorded, but it sounds like the late 1980's or 1990's. There's more of these piano demo's, like Memory Motel and Time Waits for No One.
Mathijs
Doesn't sound like a 90's Jagger. 100 Years Ago sounds absolutely authentic to me.
It was a hard one to distinguish re: '100 Years Ago' piano demo, it sounded so perfect you'd wonder was it really from 1972/1973. The voice seemed to me to be 70s Mick, but, like all of us, I'd be very interested too to know when this was actually done.
Re: Outtakes on Exile, Goats, Some Girls and Tatoo re-releases
Posted by:
DandelionPowderman
()
Date: October 1, 2025 14:51
Mick falls out of the melody a couple of times, and that lead me to believe it was not period authentic. It's hard to tell, really.
Re: Outtakes on Exile, Goats, Some Girls and Tatoo re-releases
Posted by:
Mathijs
()
Date: October 1, 2025 15:50
Quote
zQuote
MathijsQuote
hockenheim95Quote
TravelinMan
Goats: Hide Your Love sounds period authentic. So does 100 Years and the instrumentals. All the Rage just has new vocals.
I thought 100 years ago on the deluxe was from the 90s?!
As far as I know still not confirmed when it was recorded, but it sounds like the late 1980's or 1990's. There's more of these piano demo's, like Memory Motel and Time Waits for No One.
Mathijs
Doesn't sound like a 90's Jagger. 100 Years Ago sounds absolutely authentic to me.
It's really hard to tell...but the piano sounds too modern to me, it doesn't sound like a 1970's acoustic piano but something from the late 1980's or 1990's. It doesn't sound like Nicky Hopkins to me as well, but more like Chuck Leavell or Matt Clifford.
Melody wise it certainly is not a demo as the melody and lyrics are fully developed. This version was recorded after the album version was recorded. The singing style and voice sound like 1970's Jagger to me, except for the middel 8, the 'You're gonna kiss and say good-bye' part sounds awfully lot like the Primitive Cool era Jagger, when he also did this piano version of Memory Motel.
In tape trading circles this version of 100 Years Ago was available for quite some time, coupled with Time Waits, Memory Motel and Fool to Cry that were labeled as '1993 Mick Jagger Piano demo's'. The label could be wrong of course, but at the time no one doubted the label.
Mathijs
Re: Outtakes on Exile, Goats, Some Girls and Tatoo re-releases
Posted by:
Mathijs
()
Date: October 1, 2025 15:53
Quote
Christiaan
Another question. Where comes the great song Plundered My Soul from. I can‘t find any bootlegs which sound like that song. Nothing with words, but also not the music. Not that I know or have all the bootlegs of course….
It has the exact guitar and drum sound as Tumbling Dice, so likely from Nellcote 1971.
Mathijs
Re: Outtakes on Exile, Goats, Some Girls and Tatoo re-releases
Posted by:
Mathijs
()
Date: October 1, 2025 15:56
Quote
TravelinMan
I don’t think Wood was involved on the Goats project and the FFSO version of Criss Cross sounds like the released version. This song was done and ready to be used on the album until they swapped in Hide Your Love
You are correct about Criss Cross, I mixed it up with Living in the Heart of Love, which has a Wood overdub.
Mathijs
Re: Outtakes on Exile, Goats, Some Girls and Tatoo re-releases
Posted by:
TravelinMan
()
Date: October 1, 2025 16:31
Quote
DandelionPowdermanQuote
TravelinMan
I don’t think Wood was involved on the Goats project and the FFSO version of Criss Cross sounds like the released version. This song was done and ready to be used on the album until they swapped in Hide Your Love
According to timeisonourside.com additional recordings were done April-June 2020. Looking at the lineup, it must have been Mick overdubbing some of the vocals.
Yeah, I could see him overdubbing more vocals.
Re: Outtakes on Exile, Goats, Some Girls and Tatoo re-releases
Posted by:
TravelinMan
()
Date: October 1, 2025 16:34
Quote
MathijsQuote
Christiaan
Another question. Where comes the great song Plundered My Soul from. I can‘t find any bootlegs which sound like that song. Nothing with words, but also not the music. Not that I know or have all the bootlegs of course….
It has the exact guitar and drum sound as Tumbling Dice, so likely from Nellcote 1971.
Mathijs
Yes, this sounds right to me. Following the River and Sophia Loren as well.
Re: Outtakes on Exile, Goats, Some Girls and Tatoo re-releases
Posted by:
gotdablouse
()
Date: October 1, 2025 17:21
So do we think there any original lead vocals in what was released apart from "Good Time Women" ?
Maybe these are versions that were prepared for the Virgin reissues that were definitely planned with bonus tracks at one point. That was mentioned by Manoeuvre in R&F in late 93 or early 94.
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Quote
Mathijs
It's really hard to tell...but the piano sounds too modern to me, it doesn't sound like a 1970's acoustic piano but something from the late 1980's or 1990's. It doesn't sound like Nicky Hopkins to me as well, but more like Chuck Leavell or Matt Clifford.
Melody wise it certainly is not a demo as the melody and lyrics are fully developed. This version was recorded after the album version was recorded. The singing style and voice sound like 1970's Jagger to me, except for the middel 8, the 'You're gonna kiss and say good-bye' part sounds awfully lot like the Primitive Cool era Jagger, when he also did this piano version of Memory Motel.
In tape trading circles this version of 100 Years Ago was available for quite some time, coupled with Time Waits, Memory Motel and Fool to Cry that were labeled as '1993 Mick Jagger Piano demo's'. The label could be wrong of course, but at the time no one doubted the label.
Mathijs
Maybe these are versions that were prepared for the Virgin reissues that were definitely planned with bonus tracks at one point. That was mentioned by Manoeuvre in R&F in late 93 or early 94.
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IORR Links : Essential Studio Outtakes CDs : Audio - History of Rarest Outtakes : Audio
Re: Outtakes on Exile, Goats, Some Girls and Tatoo re-releases
Posted by:
LeonidP
()
Date: October 2, 2025 04:41
Correct, not 90s ... it sounds like 2010s Jagger to me.Quote
zQuote
MathijsQuote
hockenheim95Quote
TravelinMan
Goats: Hide Your Love sounds period authentic. So does 100 Years and the instrumentals. All the Rage just has new vocals.
I thought 100 years ago on the deluxe was from the 90s?!
As far as I know still not confirmed when it was recorded, but it sounds like the late 1980's or 1990's. There's more of these piano demo's, like Memory Motel and Time Waits for No One.
Mathijs
Doesn't sound like a 90's Jagger. 100 Years Ago sounds absolutely authentic to me.
Re: Outtakes on Exile, Goats, Some Girls and Tatoo re-releases
Posted by:
georgemcdonnell314
()
Date: October 2, 2025 04:50
I think it's hard to tell the originals from the newer versions in some cases.
In some cases you can clearly tell but in others it could all be original just mixed differently or the guitars/vocals made more prominent that the originals.
Each of the reissues has a few better tracks.
I think they should have just made a standalone album of 70's unreleased tracks. I think it would have sold better than the reissues.
They have made the reissues too expensive.
In some cases you can clearly tell but in others it could all be original just mixed differently or the guitars/vocals made more prominent that the originals.
Each of the reissues has a few better tracks.
I think they should have just made a standalone album of 70's unreleased tracks. I think it would have sold better than the reissues.
They have made the reissues too expensive.
Re: Outtakes on Exile, Goats, Some Girls and Tatoo re-releases
Posted by:
TravelinMan
()
Date: October 2, 2025 16:23
100 Years Ago piano demo is def not 2010 Jagger.
I think it has Billy Preston's piano sound.
I think it has Billy Preston's piano sound.
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