I think M+K+R will go on as long as it feels good to them… but that’s 3 aging guys and probability dictates a likelihood someone will be either unable or unwilling to tour and/or record soon. Of course we hope they continue to beat the odds and go on forever. I didn’t love the HD album, but I loved that they put it out, and I still love the thrill of hearing a new Stones album. I’m very much looking forward to the next release, whether it’s their last or not… I don’t think it makes sense to judge or speculate at this stage of their career. Let’s just see what they offer us next. No doubt it’ll be interesting at the very least— It’s pretty cool that in 2025, we get to look forward to another new album from The Rolling Stones.

If one buys the album, in whatever format, criticism is part of the deal. It's part of the investment. It doesn't change anything other than.

If one is just streaming... they don't own it, it's just a momentary rental, so criticism means less and it changes zero.

Opinions without facts are wrong opinions. "Well I think" without any kind of support other than how they feel or think... doesn't add up to facts except for how they feel.

It's raining a lot.

"Well, in my opinion..." so don't complain about getting soaked if going outside.

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If one buys the album, in whatever format, criticism is part of the deal. It's part of the investment. It doesn't change anything other than.

If one is just streaming... they don't own it, it's just a momentary rental, so criticism means less and it changes zero.

Opinions without facts are wrong opinions. "Well I think" without any kind of support other than how they feel or think... doesn't add up to facts except for how they feel.

It's raining a lot.

"Well, in my opinion..." so don't complain about getting soaked if going outside.

Hmmm, wise words or scatterbrained nonsense?
I think I might agree with everything he wrote.

In my opinion, GLS’s opinions, while momentarily wrong, are ultimately as right and inevitable as the shit streaming from a defecating hippo. And when on safari criticizing a hippo is never part of the deal, right?

Right, but as Gassy Max wisely points out, records and other products are different. You have to expect criticism! By purchasing a Rolling Stones record you accept the possibility of being criticized, whipped and imprisoned (the latter is unlikely to happen but believe me it’s there in the fine print). Hey I don’t make the rules - they apply to me too. I once bought a sweater because I ‘thought’ its gold and rose hues brought out my eyes. But it was a ‘wrong’ opinion. My wife promptly provided the facts which undermined my opinion, as she often does. In point of fact, it was an unholy satanic sweater which made her rather queasy. That didn’t change the way I ‘felt’ about my sweater but it made me realize that you will be judged for everything – and I mean everything – you purchase. If shopping isn’t stressful for you, it’s our opinion that it should be.

It's raining hard in GLS’s opinion. The traffic cone he sat on with purpose last night now sits jauntily on his head. In my opinion, he looks and writes like a dunce. In support of that opinion, I have quoted his post.

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If one buys the album, in whatever format, criticism is part of the deal. It's part of the investment. It doesn't change anything other than.

If one is just streaming... they don't own it, it's just a momentary rental, so criticism means less and it changes zero.

Opinions without facts are wrong opinions. "Well I think" without any kind of support other than how they feel or think... doesn't add up to facts except for how they feel.

It's raining a lot.

"Well, in my opinion..." so don't complain about getting soaked if going outside.

Hmmm, wise words or scatterbrained nonsense?
I think I might agree with everything he wrote.

In my opinion, GLS’s opinions, while momentarily wrong, are ultimately as right and inevitable as the shit streaming from a defecating hippo. And when on safari criticizing a hippo is never part of the deal, right?

Right, but as Gassy Max wisely points out, records and other products are different. You have to expect criticism! By purchasing a Rolling Stones record you accept the possibility of being criticized, whipped and imprisoned (the latter is unlikely to happen but believe me it’s there in the fine print). Hey I don’t make the rules - they apply to me too. I once bought a sweater because I ‘thought’ its gold and rose hues brought out my eyes. But it was a ‘wrong’ opinion. My wife promptly provided the facts which undermined my opinion, as she often does. In point of fact, it was an unholy satanic sweater which made her rather queasy. That didn’t change the way I ‘felt’ about my sweater but it made me realize that you will be judged for everything – and I mean everything – you purchase. If shopping isn’t stressful for you, it’s our opinion that it should be.

It's raining hard in GLS’s opinion. The traffic cone he sat on with purpose last night now sits jauntily on his head. In my opinion, he looks and writes like a dunce. In support of that opinion, I have quoted his post.

That was an apt observation, what I bolded from your diatribe. All I got from your "attempted takedown" here, is that your wife sounds like a bit of a b*tch...not sure if that was intentional on your part but I hope she's not reviewing your posts.

At least it seems your abiding by her satanic majesties request, by the sounds of it anyway, which means you're all the better dressed for it.

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If one buys the album, in whatever format, criticism is part of the deal. It's part of the investment. It doesn't change anything other than.

If one is just streaming... they don't own it, it's just a momentary rental, so criticism means less and it changes zero.

Opinions without facts are wrong opinions. "Well I think" without any kind of support other than how they feel or think... doesn't add up to facts except for how they feel.

It's raining a lot.

"Well, in my opinion..." so don't complain about getting soaked if going outside.

Hmmm, wise words or scatterbrained nonsense?
I think I might agree with everything he wrote.

In my opinion, GLS’s opinions, while momentarily wrong, are ultimately as right and inevitable as the shit streaming from a defecating hippo. And when on safari criticizing a hippo is never part of the deal, right?

Right, but as Gassy Max wisely points out, records and other products are different. You have to expect criticism! By purchasing a Rolling Stones record you accept the possibility of being criticized, whipped and imprisoned (the latter is unlikely to happen but believe me it’s there in the fine print). Hey I don’t make the rules - they apply to me too. I once bought a sweater because I ‘thought’ its gold and rose hues brought out my eyes. But it was a ‘wrong’ opinion. My wife promptly provided the facts which undermined my opinion, as she often does. In point of fact, it was an unholy satanic sweater which made her rather queasy. That didn’t change the way I ‘felt’ about my sweater but it made me realize that you will be judged for everything – and I mean everything – you purchase. If shopping isn’t stressful for you, it’s our opinion that it should be.

It's raining hard in GLS’s opinion. The traffic cone he sat on with purpose last night now sits jauntily on his head. In my opinion, he looks and writes like a dunce. In support of that opinion, I have quoted his post.

That was an apt observation, what I bolded from your diatribe. All I got from your "attempted takedown" here, is that your wife sounds like a bit of a b*tch...not sure if that was intentional on your part but I hope she's not reviewing your posts.

At least it seems your abiding by her satanic majesties request, by the sounds of it anyway, which means you're all the better dressed for it.

No real reason for you to reply to my post except that you’re a butt-sore west coast poser.

And let's get something straight - if I lived in a shithole like Vancouver the only way your wife would know my wife is if she was doing our laundry. Is she French or Chinese? Who knows…maybe there’d be a place for her in between the sheets. But I doubt it…

People don't want to come on here and see nonsense or other people arguing over BS. Just email or call each other if you want to debate, and keep it off here, no one cares.

Ever wonder why BV doesn't want to deal with this anymore?

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People don't want to come on here and see nonsense or other people arguing over BS. Just email or call each other if you want to debate, and keep it off here, no one cares.

Ever wonder why BV doesn't want to deal with this anymore?

Perfectly expressed.

Swayed1967 is what is known as "touched".

He can misunderstand the reality of what opinion means while thinking opinion equals facts and quote me all he wants in his duntiness but he's a big part of the plague on iorr.org, with his closeted views that he has issues with that are conveyed with his misogynist and bigotry. He did get a tiny bump in respect because he loves The Cult but otherwise he's just spewing like, well, you read what he said.

It's always time for the angry little man to go to bed.

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If one buys the album, in whatever format, criticism is part of the deal. It's part of the investment. It doesn't change anything other than.

If one is just streaming... they don't own it, it's just a momentary rental, so criticism means less and it changes zero.

Opinions without facts are wrong opinions. "Well I think" without any kind of support other than how they feel or think... doesn't add up to facts except for how they feel.

It's raining a lot.

"Well, in my opinion..." so don't complain about getting soaked if going outside.

Hmmm, wise words or scatterbrained nonsense?
I think I might agree with everything he wrote.

In my opinion, GLS’s opinions, while momentarily wrong, are ultimately as right and inevitable as the shit streaming from a defecating hippo. And when on safari criticizing a hippo is never part of the deal, right?

Right, but as Gassy Max wisely points out, records and other products are different. You have to expect criticism! By purchasing a Rolling Stones record you accept the possibility of being criticized, whipped and imprisoned (the latter is unlikely to happen but believe me it’s there in the fine print). Hey I don’t make the rules - they apply to me too. I once bought a sweater because I ‘thought’ its gold and rose hues brought out my eyes. But it was a ‘wrong’ opinion. My wife promptly provided the facts which undermined my opinion, as she often does. In point of fact, it was an unholy satanic sweater which made her rather queasy. That didn’t change the way I ‘felt’ about my sweater but it made me realize that you will be judged for everything – and I mean everything – you purchase. If shopping isn’t stressful for you, it’s our opinion that it should be.

It's raining hard in GLS’s opinion. The traffic cone he sat on with purpose last night now sits jauntily on his head. In my opinion, he looks and writes like a dunce. In support of that opinion, I have quoted his post.

That was an apt observation, what I bolded from your diatribe. All I got from your "attempted takedown" here, is that your wife sounds like a bit of a b*tch...not sure if that was intentional on your part but I hope she's not reviewing your posts.

At least it seems your abiding by her satanic majesties request, by the sounds of it anyway, which means you're all the better dressed for it.

No real reason for you to reply to my post except that you’re a butt-sore west coast poser.

And let's get something straight - if I lived in a shithole like Vancouver the only way your wife would know my wife is if she was doing our laundry. Is she French or Chinese? Who knows…maybe there’d be a place for her in between the sheets. But I doubt it…

Oh dear...by all means, flame on you crazy diamond.

will you guys just get a room already

i'd really rather read about the new album on the new album thread and less about whatever the hell this is about

Geez this thread is so off topic I can see it getting closed soon.

Hackney Diamonds is a great Stones album. Maybe their most pleasing work since TY, or even Some Girls. I have listened to it repeatedly. I have not listened to a Stones album repeatedly since Steel Wheels. I noticed any actual news on a new album stopped on the first page of this post.

I can see where unreleased songs from certain periods didn't fit the feel of the album. That's been true for some of the cuts on Deluxe Stones albums. (Hoping Black and Blue is next).

Can't we just be happy that we got a great Stones album in 2023? No, it's not Exile, or Sticky Fingers, but what is?

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Geez this thread is so off topic I can see it getting closed soon.

It's because of Swayed1967, a troglodyte that can't figure something simple out.

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Hackney Diamonds is a great Stones album. Maybe their most pleasing work since TY, or even Some Girls. I have listened to it repeatedly. I have not listened to a Stones album repeatedly since Steel Wheels. I noticed any actual news on a new album stopped on the first page of this post.

I can see where unreleased songs from certain periods didn't fit the feel of the album. That's been true for some of the cuts on Deluxe Stones albums. (Hoping Black and Blue is next)

Exactly. Absolutely.

Why "now" is strange but given their history of having not recorded a new album (sans BLUE AND LONESOME), they've been coasting, rightfully so, on their 1964-1981 catalogue with the tours going back to even 2005 through 2021.

Given that 2005 was a new album about 18 years later they record 20 plus songs and release HD and it's killer?

OK.

There's a lot more in the can.

I also do still listen to Hackney Diamonds a lot. And many songs have even grown for me from first not liking them to then having them in my car driving playlist, for example Get Close. The saxophone solo gives me 1981 tour vibes, making me think they could have played this in the stadium on that great evening in the lets spend the night together concert movie. It fits the vibe.
And that's why I think the next album will be just as amazing and they still have so much left in the can. They are still the rolling Stones, just a bit older.

Keeping this thread on topic:

After 4 weeks of recording studio time in London, the new album should be ready by this autumn - so we could expect a release and maybe even launch events like the Hackney Empire press event and Racket mini-gig. Universal will certainly want to make a big fuss of this to boost sales.

Assuming everyone is fit and well, we can then hope for some gigs in 2026 (Europe) andd maybe even a few in late 2025.

I still believe that the priority this year changed to working on their legacy (songs on an album that will last for 100 years) rather than some gigs (great for those attending, but not as long lasting).

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Hackney Diamonds is a great Stones album. Maybe their most pleasing work since TY, or even Some Girls. I have listened to it repeatedly. I have not listened to a Stones album repeatedly since Steel Wheels. I noticed any actual news on a new album stopped on the first page of this post.

I can see where unreleased songs from certain periods didn't fit the feel of the album. That's been true for some of the cuts on Deluxe Stones albums. (Hoping Black and Blue is next)

Exactly. Absolutely.

Why "now" is strange but given their history of having not recorded a new album (sans BLUE AND LONESOME), they've been coasting, rightfully so, on their 1964-1981 catalogue with the tours going back to even 2005 through 2021.

Given that 2005 was a new album about 18 years later they record 20 plus songs and release HD and it's killer?

OK.

There's a lot more in the can.

I think we've come with this observation before but their 1964-81 period was 17 years. That's it. The GAP between ABB and HD was 18 years. Remarkable.

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I also do still listen to Hackney Diamonds a lot. And many songs have even grown for me from first not liking them to then having them in my car driving playlist, for example Get Close. The saxophone solo gives me 1981 tour vibes, making me think they could have played this in the stadium on that great evening in the lets spend the night together concert movie. It fits the vibe.
And that's why I think the next album will be just as amazing and they still have so much left in the can. They are still the rolling Stones, just a bit older.

Yes...it is a retro-Tattoo You feel, great observation. It's one of about 5 or 6 songs on the album that could have/should have been singles. I think Whole Wide World and Depending on You were missed opportunities as well. In fact I'd argue that Whole Wide World should have been the follow-up single and tease SSoH out a bit later.

I agree about Get Close. From the first time I heard it (from the leak) I loved the sax, the percussion, the maj7 chords - had a real 70s/BandB vibe about it that I hadn't heard from the Stones in many a long year.

Great track

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I also do still listen to Hackney Diamonds a lot. And many songs have even grown for me from first not liking them to then having them in my car driving playlist, for example Get Close. The saxophone solo gives me 1981 tour vibes, making me think they could have played this in the stadium on that great evening in the lets spend the night together concert movie. It fits the vibe.
And that's why I think the next album will be just as amazing and they still have so much left in the can. They are still the rolling Stones, just a bit older.

Yes...it is a retro-Tattoo You feel, great observation. It's one of about 5 or 6 songs on the album that could have/should have been singles. I think Whole Wide World and Depending on You were missed opportunities as well. In fact I'd argue that Whole Wide World should have been the follow-up single and tease SSoH out a bit later.

I agree, most memorable album since Tattoo You. Since Some Girls might be a bit of a stretch...

I knew this was coming, you guys stretch reality to a point where everything said about Hackney Diamonds becomes meaningless, you cheapen the album and sound forgetful as to just how incredible the Stones used to be when you start talking about HD in the same context as Tattoo You.

How can you make comparisons, on what level did Hackney Diamonds tracks sound anything like the 81' 82" tour when played live.

The 81" album and tour is sacrilege, show some respect for what the Stones meant to people at that time.

Bill, Charlie and Ian Stewart are gone, HD isn't The Rolling Stones is it, it's a Jagger and Watt production with a possibly dazed and confused out of his depth Keith thrown into the recording so they can package it as RS product.
It's a good album for 78 year olds at the time of it's release and Ronnie plays well on it but it's not 81"

Ronnie's new "50 The Portraits Folio" includes "a limited pressing 7” vinyl of a never before heard demo version of a new recording by Ronnie, the reverse features a Ronnie 50 etch design".



[shop.ronniewood.com]

A lot of non sense and pointless bickering on this thread. Not much info on studio works. To get back on topic does anyone know if they are still recording in London? Seems odd they weren’t spotted out celebrating Ronnie’s birthday/50th anniversary. I wonder if they will move on to another city to finish the record like Los Angeles.

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A lot of non sense and pointless bickering on this thread. Not much info on studio works. To get back on topic does anyone know if they are still recording in London? Seems odd they weren’t spotted out celebrating Ronnie’s birthday/50th anniversary. I wonder if they will move on to another city to finish the record like Los Angeles.

they do like to work in los angeles a lot

maybe the plan is to finish and mix it there

perhaps some of the locals can let us know if they spot any suspicious activity

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Ronnie's new "50 The Portraits Folio" includes "a limited pressing 7” vinyl of a never before heard demo version of a new recording by Ronnie, the reverse features a Ronnie 50 etch design".



[shop.ronniewood.com]

cool

can't wait to hear it

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I knew this was coming, you guys stretch reality to a point where everything said about Hackney Diamonds becomes meaningless, you cheapen the album and sound forgetful as to just how incredible the Stones used to be when you start talking about HD in the same context as Tattoo You.

How can you make comparisons, on what level did Hackney Diamonds tracks sound anything like the 81' 82" tour when played live.

The 81" album and tour is sacrilege, show some respect for what the Stones meant to people at that time.

Bill, Charlie and Ian Stewart are gone, HD isn't The Rolling Stones is it, it's a Jagger and Watt production with a possibly dazed and confused out of his depth Keith thrown into the recording so they can package it as RS product.
It's a good album for 78 year olds at the time of it's release and Ronnie plays well on it but it's not 81"

You can't accept the fact that The Rolling Stones have changed.

You have no respect for what the Stones did with HACKNEY DIAMONDS. Why do you keep bitching about people liking or loving the album? And then comparing live performances to 1981-82?

No one gives a shit about that except you. Your bitterness is so dumb it's bizarre.

You miss the entire point of the comparison. "Sacrilege" is a big word from someone that doesn't simply understand something simple.

Stay in the past.

Or continue being your angry little self that people like or love HD.

You're a fossil fan, not a Rolling Stones fan.

It would be great if we got a new album this year or next. Regardless it’s rather dismaying to see people micro dissect Mick’s vocal performances, much less everyone else on the last tour regarding his age and health. I’ve been playing and singing since I was 16, I’m 50. You can rehearse and gig all you want, sometimes you go for that note and it just doesn’t happen or whatever. The Stones are far beyond consistent, they are tremendous and yes more so considering their current age and past lifestyle. My dad and Mick are the same age. Dad is well but Mick is on top form for an Octagenarian by any stretch so it’s just amazing. It’s hard to hear yourself and the band in a medium size hall properly, I can only imagine what a stadium must be like even with in ear technology. They were tremendous in Vancouver last year is all I know. Keith was in top form. Ronnie ebullient, and the band all just killing it. I’ve seen younger performers since who couldn’t have sustained a 2+ hour performance at that level. Live long and strong boys, rock on!

gls, treacle and others

please stop taking the bait and getting into these multi page fights

this thread has already been closed down and restarted once and i'm amazed at the restraint bv is exercising because i can't beleive he hasn't closed it again

it's been off topic forever

i know keithriffhards post are irritating to you guys but your fights with him are incredibly irritating to the rest of us

please if you see another post by him on this thread take a deep breath and scroll past it

keithriffhards you've made your feelings about hackeny diamonds very clear but at this point all your doing is hurting your case and starting pointless arguments

might i suggest you avoid this topic for a while

i enjoy your posts in the clapton and dylan threads and there's a bunch of other threads about different topics not releated to hackney diamonds you could contribute to

but if you must continue posting about hackney diamonds could you at least do it in the thread about hackney diamonds

and please try to stop posting things in this thread that common sense would dictate would cause an off topic argument to break out

i'm sure we all want this thread to stay open so we can continue to hear rumours and news about the only real thing going on releated to the band at this moment

thank you

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I knew this was coming, you guys stretch reality to a point where everything said about Hackney Diamonds becomes meaningless, you cheapen the album and sound forgetful as to just how incredible the Stones used to be when you start talking about HD in the same context as Tattoo You.

How can you make comparisons, on what level did Hackney Diamonds tracks sound anything like the 81' 82" tour when played live.

The 81" album and tour is sacrilege, show some respect for what the Stones meant to people at that time.

Bill, Charlie and Ian Stewart are gone, HD isn't The Rolling Stones is it, it's a Jagger and Watt production with a possibly dazed and confused out of his depth Keith thrown into the recording so they can package it as RS product.
It's a good album for 78 year olds at the time of it's release and Ronnie plays well on it but it's not 81"

You can't accept the fact that The Rolling Stones have changed.

You have no respect for what the Stones did with HACKNEY DIAMONDS. Why do you keep bitching about people liking or loving the album? And then comparing live performances to 1981-82?

No one gives a shit about that except you. Your bitterness is so dumb it's bizarre.

You miss the entire point of the comparison. "Sacrilege" is a big word from someone that doesn't simply understand something simple.

Stay in the past.

Or continue being your angry little self that people like or love HD.

You're a fossil fan, not a Rolling Stones fan.

That's your opinion, my opinion is mine.
You go about your posts personally insulting people on a daily bases and get away with it, how does that work, you know i wouldn't get away with it.

You bully people on multiple threads with your bombastic provocative anger and then accuse others of doing the very thing you and your gatekeeper friends do.

Where are the personal insults in my post/ posts.

Look mate you aren't preaching to me, i and others don't need to take your insults because we have a different opinion to you, can't you understand that and be a little less condescending.

I know you and a few others basically live on here and pull together to run anyone who hears the Stones different to you out of iorr, you're like a gang now who take it upon themselves to moderate opposing views with personal attacks.

If you can't pull yourself together enough to respond to people you disagree with without insulting them why don't you do as ProfessorWolf suggests, ignore and move on, post baby post to your hearts content in the knowledge there's room here for everyone.



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