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Eagle Rock/Eagle Vision has released several things without a good deal, possibly for the fun of it because it's unlikely very many people bought BRIDGES TO either one, as well as quite a few other releases.
Yeah, I wouldn't rule out that possibility at all. It is pure nerd stuff now, made for you and me, and Eagle pleases us. Most likely it was at the time thought to a part of promoting HACKNEY DIAMONDS. Maybe showing it on some platform like NETFLIX would have done that.
But the thing is: we don't have a clue what really happened to that film. Maybe Mick just on the last minute decided that it was crap... He has a notorious history of that..
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While that's possible he thought it was crap, there's one other possibility: he saw UMe fall on their face with promoting HD by not releasing anything in 2024.
Angry was roughly 20 days later followed with Sweet Sounds and then Mess It Up in various ways the day the album was released, the download available in mid-November and the video in mid-December.
The 18 month plan died in Deccember 2023. Why UMe didn't release a single right before or during the tour in 2024 is mind boggling.
I don't see any hype lasting a day past the new LP release.
Sometimes you take what someone says too literally. The famous 18-month plan is ridiculous for any legacy artist. No release from any established artist lasted more than a few weeks on the charts or in the media, 95% of their market is physical sales, and those die within a week of release once all the die-hard fans have gotten their copies. They don't attract anyone else, much less through streaming. Nobody's going to throw money away on something that doesn't generate any return.
No fourth single from the album was going to make any impact on radio or anywhere else. SSOH was the second single, and nobody cared, even though it featured Lady Gaga, who still makes hits.
90% of Hackney Diamonds' budget went to Angry and its video, which generated over 40 million views on YouTube and was the only thing that made any impact. The budget was almost exhausted for everything that came after that, and Universal wasn't going to waste any more money on an album that generated all it had to generate in the first 2-3 weeks and in the pre-sale.
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“90% of Hackney Diamonds budget went to Angry and the video”.
Wow, that’s interesting.. I don't’ know much about how the current industry works. But I never would’ve guessed that stat!

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My impression of the "18-month plan" was that it wasn't just $$ for promoting singles or videos, but also a concerted effort to level up the band's presence on streaming platforms. I saw no evidence of that, at any point, and they've only gone backwards since then.
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RumbleblutzThe delusions are strong here. The boot recordings of those shows show a very painful and sad decline--quite alarming actually.2021-2 shows the same. No issues? Hardly a truthful assessment. But then again I'm not a sycophant or fanboy. Gotta call those balls and strikes as I see 'em. 2019 was just barely OK, should have quit in 2015 at the latest. I know it's tough to acknowledge, but the level of pie-in-the-sky scenarios for them is simply and weirdly otherworldly. It is 2026, not 1966.Quote
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Looking back, that 2024 US tour was so special. The new material, the way they played, the shows being so good with no issues. What a blessing.
You're so right.
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Eagle Rock/Eagle Vision has released several things without a good deal, possibly for the fun of it because it's unlikely very many people bought BRIDGES TO either one, as well as quite a few other releases.
Yeah, I wouldn't rule out that possibility at all. It is pure nerd stuff now, made for you and me, and Eagle pleases us. Most likely it was at the time thought to a part of promoting HACKNEY DIAMONDS. Maybe showing it on some platform like NETFLIX would have done that.
But the thing is: we don't have a clue what really happened to that film. Maybe Mick just on the last minute decided that it was crap... He has a notorious history of that..
- Doxa
While that's possible he thought it was crap, there's one other possibility: he saw UMe fall on their face with promoting HD by not releasing anything in 2024.
Angry was roughly 20 days later followed with Sweet Sounds and then Mess It Up in various ways the day the album was released, the download available in mid-November and the video in mid-December.
The 18 month plan died in Deccember 2023. Why UMe didn't release a single right before or during the tour in 2024 is mind boggling.
I don't see any hype lasting a day past the new LP release.
Sometimes you take what someone says too literally. The famous 18-month plan is ridiculous for any legacy artist. No release from any established artist lasted more than a few weeks on the charts or in the media, 95% of their market is physical sales, and those die within a week of release once all the die-hard fans have gotten their copies. They don't attract anyone else, much less through streaming. Nobody's going to throw money away on something that doesn't generate any return.
No fourth single from the album was going to make any impact on radio or anywhere else. SSOH was the second single, and nobody cared, even though it featured Lady Gaga, who still makes hits.
90% of Hackney Diamonds' budget went to Angry and its video, which generated over 40 million views on YouTube and was the only thing that made any impact. The budget was almost exhausted for everything that came after that, and Universal wasn't going to waste any more money on an album that generated all it had to generate in the first 2-3 weeks and in the pre-sale.
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StonedRamblerYeah they said in that interview that they wanted to get them in the top 100 artists.Quote
MelBelli
My impression of the "18-month plan" was that it wasn't just $$ for promoting singles or videos, but also a concerted effort to level up the band's presence on streaming platforms. I saw no evidence of that, at any point, and they've only gone backwards since then.
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StonedRamblerYeah they said in that interview that they wanted to get them in the top 100 artists.Quote
MelBelli
My impression of the "18-month plan" was that it wasn't just $$ for promoting singles or videos, but also a concerted effort to level up the band's presence on streaming platforms. I saw no evidence of that, at any point, and they've only gone backwards since then.
And I they’re presently sitting at #258 on the Spotify Chart; but hey, if they climb 58 places, they’ll at least be halfway there!
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MelBelli
My impression of the "18-month plan" was that it wasn't just $$ for promoting singles or videos, but also a concerted effort to level up the band's presence on streaming platforms. I saw no evidence of that, at any point, and they've only gone backwards since then.
And I they’re presently sitting at #258 on the Spotify Chart; but hey, if they climb 58 places, they’ll at least be halfway there!
It's Spotify. Yeah yeah the most used music app in the world.
Hootie And The Blowfish sold 15 million copies of their first album.
It's Spotify.

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StonedRamblerYeah they said in that interview that they wanted to get them in the top 100 artists.Quote
MelBelli
My impression of the "18-month plan" was that it wasn't just $$ for promoting singles or videos, but also a concerted effort to level up the band's presence on streaming platforms. I saw no evidence of that, at any point, and they've only gone backwards since then.
And I they’re presently sitting at #258 on the Spotify Chart; but hey, if they climb 58 places, they’ll at least be halfway there!
It's Spotify. Yeah yeah the most used music app in the world.
Hootie And The Blowfish sold 15 million copies of their first album.
It's Spotify.
Well, we certainly all know your disdain for streaming, GasLightStreet. Unfortunately for the Stones, it’s how the majority, today, listen to music. If the stones want present-day relevance, they need to fair far better on such platforms.
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I don't mind streaming at all. I have AppleMusic and I listen to it enough to justify the cost. Spotify is simply garbage.
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I don't mind streaming at all. I have AppleMusic and I listen to it enough to justify the cost. Spotify is simply garbage.
Oh, okay. I'm not sure why consider Spotify to be 'garbage', yet not AppleMusic. The former serves it's purposes for me well enough. Mind you, I only use it about once-or-twice a week, so...

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Budget was blown on Sydney Sweeneys fee

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RumbleblutzThe delusions are strong here. The boot recordings of those shows show a very painful and sad decline--quite alarming actually.2021-2 shows the same. No issues? Hardly a truthful assessment. But then again I'm not a sycophant or fanboy. Gotta call those balls and strikes as I see 'em. 2019 was just barely OK, should have quit in 2015 at the latest. I know it's tough to acknowledge, but the level of pie-in-the-sky scenarios for them is simply and weirdly otherworldly. It is 2026, not 1966.Quote
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Jeter1984
Looking back, that 2024 US tour was so special. The new material, the way they played, the shows being so good with no issues. What a blessing.
You're so right.
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18 months plan? I don't think there ever was one.
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18 months plan? I don't think there ever was one.
The marketing for Hackney Diamonds lasted even longer than 18 months. It started on 17-Aug-2023 with the Hackney Gazette Ad and after the official album release on 20-Oct-2023 there was on 28-Jun-2024 the FNAC Picture Disc - [iorr.org] - on 6-Dec-2024 the 1st Anniversary 2LP Color-Vinyl - [iorr.org] - and on 11-Jun-2025 the Japanese SHM-CD+BluRay (UICY-80598) - [iorr.org] .
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Sure, releasing more discs is also a "plan"
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GasLightStreet
I don't mind streaming at all. I have AppleMusic and I listen to it enough to justify the cost. Spotify is simply garbage.
Oh, okay. I'm not sure why consider Spotify to be 'garbage', yet not AppleMusic. The former serves it's purposes for me well enough. Mind you, I only use it about once-or-twice a week, so...
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StonedRambler
Well getting Sydney Sweeney for a video certainly ain’t cheap
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Well getting Sydney Sweeney for a video certainly ain’t cheap
IMHO she absolutely ruined what was otherwise a very well produced video. Watch it again and check out the animation & the effects in/on the billboards.
It simply didn't need her sitting in a car flaunting her body parts distracting attention.
Bad call by the video director, and a bad call by the band in approving it.
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If you are 80 years old yourself, you're not going to throw 80 year old women in your vids of course.
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