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Re: The Rolling Stones new studio album rumoured out in 2026
Posted by: snoopy2 ()
Date: February 28, 2026 18:02

“90% of Hackney Diamonds budget went to Angry and the video”.

Wow, that’s interesting.. I don't’ know much about how the current industry works. But I never would’ve guessed that stat!

Re: The Rolling Stones new studio album rumoured out in 2026
Posted by: slewan ()
Date: February 28, 2026 19:48

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Eagle Rock/Eagle Vision has released several things without a good deal, possibly for the fun of it because it's unlikely very many people bought BRIDGES TO either one, as well as quite a few other releases.

Yeah, I wouldn't rule out that possibility at all. It is pure nerd stuff now, made for you and me, and Eagle pleases us. Most likely it was at the time thought to a part of promoting HACKNEY DIAMONDS. Maybe showing it on some platform like NETFLIX would have done that.

But the thing is: we don't have a clue what really happened to that film. Maybe Mick just on the last minute decided that it was crap... He has a notorious history of that..

- Doxa

While that's possible he thought it was crap, there's one other possibility: he saw UMe fall on their face with promoting HD by not releasing anything in 2024.

Angry was roughly 20 days later followed with Sweet Sounds and then Mess It Up in various ways the day the album was released, the download available in mid-November and the video in mid-December.

The 18 month plan died in Deccember 2023. Why UMe didn't release a single right before or during the tour in 2024 is mind boggling.

I don't see any hype lasting a day past the new LP release.

Sometimes you take what someone says too literally. The famous 18-month plan is ridiculous for any legacy artist. No release from any established artist lasted more than a few weeks on the charts or in the media, 95% of their market is physical sales, and those die within a week of release once all the die-hard fans have gotten their copies. They don't attract anyone else, much less through streaming. Nobody's going to throw money away on something that doesn't generate any return.

No fourth single from the album was going to make any impact on radio or anywhere else. SSOH was the second single, and nobody cared, even though it featured Lady Gaga, who still makes hits.

90% of Hackney Diamonds' budget went to Angry and its video, which generated over 40 million views on YouTube and was the only thing that made any impact. The budget was almost exhausted for everything that came after that, and Universal wasn't going to waste any more money on an album that generated all it had to generate in the first 2-3 weeks and in the pre-sale.

well, if 90% of the overall budget was burned by the video either the budget was quite low or Sydney Sweeney was too expansive (while the video itself was rather cheap (aetheticwise))

I think the 18-month plan included or rather was basically touring (= an US leg in 2024 (done) and an European leg in 2025 (cancelled)).

Re: The Rolling Stones new studio album rumoured out in 2026
Posted by: MelBelli ()
Date: February 28, 2026 20:42

My impression of the "18-month plan" was that it wasn't just $$ for promoting singles or videos, but also a concerted effort to level up the band's presence on streaming platforms. I saw no evidence of that, at any point, and they've only gone backwards since then.

Re: The Rolling Stones new studio album rumoured out in 2026
Posted by: StonedRambler ()
Date: February 28, 2026 23:56

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“90% of Hackney Diamonds budget went to Angry and the video”.

Wow, that’s interesting.. I don't’ know much about how the current industry works. But I never would’ve guessed that stat!

Well getting Sydney Sweeney for a video certainly ain’t cheap winking smiley

Re: The Rolling Stones new studio album rumoured out in 2026
Posted by: StonedRambler ()
Date: February 28, 2026 23:58

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My impression of the "18-month plan" was that it wasn't just $$ for promoting singles or videos, but also a concerted effort to level up the band's presence on streaming platforms. I saw no evidence of that, at any point, and they've only gone backwards since then.
Yeah they said in that interview that they wanted to get them in the top 100 artists.

Re: The Rolling Stones new studio album rumoured out in 2026
Posted by: StonedRambler ()
Date: March 1, 2026 00:07

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Looking back, that 2024 US tour was so special. The new material, the way they played, the shows being so good with no issues. What a blessing.

You're so right.
The delusions are strong here. The boot recordings of those shows show a very painful and sad decline--quite alarming actually.2021-2 shows the same. No issues? Hardly a truthful assessment. But then again I'm not a sycophant or fanboy. Gotta call those balls and strikes as I see 'em. 2019 was just barely OK, should have quit in 2015 at the latest. I know it's tough to acknowledge, but the level of pie-in-the-sky scenarios for them is simply and weirdly otherworldly. It is 2026, not 1966.

I think groove-wise 2024 was the best of the „Steve–tours“. 2021 was a bit stiff, 2022 much better and 2024 even better.

And Mick Jagger is still absolutely amazing as a singer and performer.

I admit the guitar section has been the weak point since quite some time but they still deliver the rhythm parts well enough. it’s just the solos that are a bit rough sometimes.

Re: The Rolling Stones new studio album rumoured out in 2026
Posted by: GasLightStreet ()
Date: March 1, 2026 09:46

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Eagle Rock/Eagle Vision has released several things without a good deal, possibly for the fun of it because it's unlikely very many people bought BRIDGES TO either one, as well as quite a few other releases.

Yeah, I wouldn't rule out that possibility at all. It is pure nerd stuff now, made for you and me, and Eagle pleases us. Most likely it was at the time thought to a part of promoting HACKNEY DIAMONDS. Maybe showing it on some platform like NETFLIX would have done that.

But the thing is: we don't have a clue what really happened to that film. Maybe Mick just on the last minute decided that it was crap... He has a notorious history of that..

- Doxa

While that's possible he thought it was crap, there's one other possibility: he saw UMe fall on their face with promoting HD by not releasing anything in 2024.

Angry was roughly 20 days later followed with Sweet Sounds and then Mess It Up in various ways the day the album was released, the download available in mid-November and the video in mid-December.

The 18 month plan died in Deccember 2023. Why UMe didn't release a single right before or during the tour in 2024 is mind boggling.

I don't see any hype lasting a day past the new LP release.

Sometimes you take what someone says too literally. The famous 18-month plan is ridiculous for any legacy artist. No release from any established artist lasted more than a few weeks on the charts or in the media, 95% of their market is physical sales, and those die within a week of release once all the die-hard fans have gotten their copies. They don't attract anyone else, much less through streaming. Nobody's going to throw money away on something that doesn't generate any return.

No fourth single from the album was going to make any impact on radio or anywhere else. SSOH was the second single, and nobody cared, even though it featured Lady Gaga, who still makes hits.

90% of Hackney Diamonds' budget went to Angry and its video, which generated over 40 million views on YouTube and was the only thing that made any impact. The budget was almost exhausted for everything that came after that, and Universal wasn't going to waste any more money on an album that generated all it had to generate in the first 2-3 weeks and in the pre-sale.

I quoted the article multiple times about the 18 month plan from UMe.

By no means am I disagreeing with you. Woh ho ho ho no!!!!

Just simply re-stating - ? - what people from UMe said. Of which, when I read it, I thought they were extremely excited about the album - that it was their TATTOO YOU.

As great as the album is it rightly should've been.

I think so, anyway. It's an outstanding album. Not even considering their age, as some people like to use; it's The Rolling Stones in the 2020s. Woe is thee fans of No Charlie No Stones - ok, great! Nothing for them to talk about!

What a hill to die on, as the saying goes.

It's The Rolling Stones. They do as they do because they are The Rolling Stones.

Re: The Rolling Stones new studio album rumoured out in 2026
Posted by: Big Al ()
Date: March 1, 2026 10:48

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My impression of the "18-month plan" was that it wasn't just $$ for promoting singles or videos, but also a concerted effort to level up the band's presence on streaming platforms. I saw no evidence of that, at any point, and they've only gone backwards since then.
Yeah they said in that interview that they wanted to get them in the top 100 artists.

And I they’re presently sitting at #258 on the Spotify Chart; but hey, if they climb 58 places, they’ll at least be halfway there!

Re: The Rolling Stones new studio album rumoured out in 2026
Posted by: GasLightStreet ()
Date: March 1, 2026 11:16

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My impression of the "18-month plan" was that it wasn't just $$ for promoting singles or videos, but also a concerted effort to level up the band's presence on streaming platforms. I saw no evidence of that, at any point, and they've only gone backwards since then.
Yeah they said in that interview that they wanted to get them in the top 100 artists.

And I they’re presently sitting at #258 on the Spotify Chart; but hey, if they climb 58 places, they’ll at least be halfway there!

It's Spotify. Yeah yeah the most used music app in the world.

Hootie And The Blowfish sold 15 million copies of their first album.

It's Spotify.

Re: The Rolling Stones new studio album rumoured out in 2026
Posted by: Big Al ()
Date: March 1, 2026 11:32

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My impression of the "18-month plan" was that it wasn't just $$ for promoting singles or videos, but also a concerted effort to level up the band's presence on streaming platforms. I saw no evidence of that, at any point, and they've only gone backwards since then.
Yeah they said in that interview that they wanted to get them in the top 100 artists.

And I they’re presently sitting at #258 on the Spotify Chart; but hey, if they climb 58 places, they’ll at least be halfway there!

It's Spotify. Yeah yeah the most used music app in the world.

Hootie And The Blowfish sold 15 million copies of their first album.

It's Spotify.

Well, we certainly all know your disdain for streaming, GasLightStreet. Unfortunately for the Stones, it’s how the majority, today, listen to music. If the stones want present-day relevance, they need to fair far better on such platforms.

Re: The Rolling Stones new studio album rumoured out in 2026
Posted by: peoplewitheyes ()
Date: March 1, 2026 15:31

Don't mention the word 'relevance', Big Al! spinning smiley sticking its tongue out

Re: The Rolling Stones new studio album rumoured out in 2026
Posted by: GasLightStreet ()
Date: March 1, 2026 21:33

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My impression of the "18-month plan" was that it wasn't just $$ for promoting singles or videos, but also a concerted effort to level up the band's presence on streaming platforms. I saw no evidence of that, at any point, and they've only gone backwards since then.
Yeah they said in that interview that they wanted to get them in the top 100 artists.

And I they’re presently sitting at #258 on the Spotify Chart; but hey, if they climb 58 places, they’ll at least be halfway there!

It's Spotify. Yeah yeah the most used music app in the world.

Hootie And The Blowfish sold 15 million copies of their first album.

It's Spotify.

Well, we certainly all know your disdain for streaming, GasLightStreet. Unfortunately for the Stones, it’s how the majority, today, listen to music. If the stones want present-day relevance, they need to fair far better on such platforms.

I don't mind streaming at all. I have AppleMusic and I listen to it enough to justify the cost. Spotify is simply garbage.

Re: The Rolling Stones new studio album rumoured out in 2026
Posted by: Big Al ()
Date: March 2, 2026 10:55

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I don't mind streaming at all. I have AppleMusic and I listen to it enough to justify the cost. Spotify is simply garbage.

Oh, okay. I'm not sure why consider Spotify to be 'garbage', yet not AppleMusic. The former serves it's purposes for me well enough. Mind you, I only use it about once-or-twice a week, so...

Re: The Rolling Stones new studio album rumoured out in 2026
Posted by: StonedRambler ()
Date: March 2, 2026 11:43

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I don't mind streaming at all. I have AppleMusic and I listen to it enough to justify the cost. Spotify is simply garbage.

Oh, okay. I'm not sure why consider Spotify to be 'garbage', yet not AppleMusic. The former serves it's purposes for me well enough. Mind you, I only use it about once-or-twice a week, so...

They are both doing exactly the same thing. Both support lossless now. What you prefer is just a matter of personal preference. If you want Dolby Atmos Apple is the way to go. I get more and more sick of the ads in Spotify ("sponsored recommendation") and it becoming more and more a social media platform that I consider switching to Apple Music one day as well.



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Re: The Rolling Stones new studio album rumoured out in 2026
Posted by: Davie137 ()
Date: March 2, 2026 16:37

Budget was blown on Sydney Sweeneys fee smiling smiley

Re: The Rolling Stones new studio album rumoured out in 2026
Date: March 2, 2026 18:01

She's become a much bigger global star if not icon since those heady days!
I was sat a few seats down from her on the front row of the Hackey Diamonds press jamberee at Hackney Empire. I didn't know who she was at that point, hadnt watched any White Lotus and was looking around at the crowd just as she was gazing around the auditorium and I looked at and thought 'she deosnt look like a rock music hack'. I mean, she GLOWED.

Re: The Rolling Stones new studio album rumoured out in 2026
Posted by: Stoneage ()
Date: March 2, 2026 18:07

Nothing strange with that. Usually you blow all the budget the first weeks of introduction. That's what promotion is about. 18 months plan? I don't think there ever was one.

Re: The Rolling Stones new studio album rumoured out in 2026
Date: March 2, 2026 18:21

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Budget was blown on Sydney Sweeneys fee smiling smiley

Mescal was expensive, too smiling smiley

Re: The Rolling Stones new studio album rumoured out in 2026
Posted by: gavin95 ()
Date: March 2, 2026 18:56

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Looking back, that 2024 US tour was so special. The new material, the way they played, the shows being so good with no issues. What a blessing.

You're so right.
The delusions are strong here. The boot recordings of those shows show a very painful and sad decline--quite alarming actually.2021-2 shows the same. No issues? Hardly a truthful assessment. But then again I'm not a sycophant or fanboy. Gotta call those balls and strikes as I see 'em. 2019 was just barely OK, should have quit in 2015 at the latest. I know it's tough to acknowledge, but the level of pie-in-the-sky scenarios for them is simply and weirdly otherworldly. It is 2026, not 1966.

There's actually nothing delusional at all about one saying that they loved the 2024 tour. You're free to disagree but to suggest that anyone who has thoroughly enjoyed this era is just "delusional" is wild.

Re: The Rolling Stones new studio album rumoured out in 2026
Posted by: Irix ()
Date: March 2, 2026 20:25

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18 months plan? I don't think there ever was one.

The marketing for Hackney Diamonds lasted even longer than 18 months. It started on 17-Aug-2023 with the Hackney Gazette Ad and after the official album release on 20-Oct-2023 there was on 28-Jun-2024 the FNAC Picture Disc - [iorr.org] - on 6-Dec-2024 the 1st Anniversary 2LP Color-Vinyl - [iorr.org] - and on 11-Jun-2025 the Japanese SHM-CD+BluRay (UICY-80598) - [iorr.org] .

Re: The Rolling Stones new studio album rumoured out in 2026
Posted by: Stoneage ()
Date: March 2, 2026 22:12

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18 months plan? I don't think there ever was one.

The marketing for Hackney Diamonds lasted even longer than 18 months. It started on 17-Aug-2023 with the Hackney Gazette Ad and after the official album release on 20-Oct-2023 there was on 28-Jun-2024 the FNAC Picture Disc - [iorr.org] - on 6-Dec-2024 the 1st Anniversary 2LP Color-Vinyl - [iorr.org] - and on 11-Jun-2025 the Japanese SHM-CD+BluRay (UICY-80598) - [iorr.org] .

Sure, releasing more discs is also a "plan" but I was mostly considering marketing and promotion. If they re-relased Tattoo You in new formats I wouldn't consider it a part of a 540 months marketing plan...

Re: The Rolling Stones new studio album rumoured out in 2026
Posted by: Irix ()
Date: March 2, 2026 22:45

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Sure, releasing more discs is also a "plan"

Releasing more special editions could also be a form of marketing .... but I'm somehow not convinced by this 540 months comparison.

Re: The Rolling Stones new studio album rumoured out in 2026
Posted by: Stoneage ()
Date: March 2, 2026 22:50

Yes Irix, I realise it was "a bit of a stretch". You are right.

Re: The Rolling Stones new studio album rumoured out in 2026
Posted by: GasLightStreet ()
Date: March 4, 2026 06:46

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I don't mind streaming at all. I have AppleMusic and I listen to it enough to justify the cost. Spotify is simply garbage.

Oh, okay. I'm not sure why consider Spotify to be 'garbage', yet not AppleMusic. The former serves it's purposes for me well enough. Mind you, I only use it about once-or-twice a week, so...

Spotify pays artists the least amount of all streaming services. Their claim to paying out "$11 billion to the music industry in 2025" can not be taken seriously. They can say whatever they want.

Spotify has AI "music", or, specifically, AI "artists".

Spotify serves its purposes well for you. OK. Spotify is basically replicating what Napster was while being "legit". Yet Napster in the 2020s pays considerably more than Spotify.

Re: The Rolling Stones new studio album rumoured out in 2026
Posted by: CaptainCorella ()
Date: March 4, 2026 06:54

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Well getting Sydney Sweeney for a video certainly ain’t cheap

IMHO she absolutely ruined what was otherwise a very well produced video. Watch it again and check out the animation & the effects in/on the billboards.

It simply didn't need her sitting in a car flaunting her body parts distracting attention.

Bad call by the video director, and a bad call by the band in approving it.

Captain Corella

Re: The Rolling Stones new studio album rumoured out in 2026
Posted by: matxil ()
Date: March 4, 2026 10:02

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Well getting Sydney Sweeney for a video certainly ain’t cheap

IMHO she absolutely ruined what was otherwise a very well produced video. Watch it again and check out the animation & the effects in/on the billboards.

It simply didn't need her sitting in a car flaunting her body parts distracting attention.

Bad call by the video director, and a bad call by the band in approving it.

Completely agree. And if this was an intent to "connect to the younger people", they failed miserably. Whereas the whole idea of the billboards was great.

Re: The Rolling Stones new studio album rumoured out in 2026
Posted by: peoplewitheyes ()
Date: March 4, 2026 10:35

Yep, agree about her ruining the video (yes, of course she's gorgeous). But the tired objectification of her draping herself over the car looked rather pathetic from in 2024. It's a shame, cause the moving billboards were so cool, and executed so well. Just her part looked like it came from some 80s hair metal act.

Her role is the main reason I didn't share that video widely. It was just plain embarrassing.

Re: The Rolling Stones new studio album rumoured out in 2026
Posted by: Skikkert ()
Date: March 4, 2026 11:03

The Stones have a history of featuring beautiful women in music videos. Let's not be narrow-minded now haha. She Was Hot, Anybody Seen my Baby, Ride 'm on Down, Like a Rolling Stone, Love is Strong...

If you are 80 years old yourself, you're not going to throw 80 year old women in your vids of course. And when the song is about a (broken) relationship.. yeah, it's pretty obvious that there is a girl in the video.

I love the Angry video. Sweeney is gorgeous and the billboards AI work is pretty damn neat too... Great video, but the problem is.. Nobody watches (or plays) music video's anymore. Not even MTV.

Re: The Rolling Stones new studio album rumoured out in 2026
Posted by: Maindefender ()
Date: March 4, 2026 11:08

It’s just a typical Stones video with a chick I wouldn’t even know it’s Sydney Sweeney to be honest. How could this video have blown the budget? Lol

Ride Em On Down had a similar theme(sort of). They both got 42m views

Re: The Rolling Stones new studio album rumoured out in 2026
Posted by: matxil ()
Date: March 4, 2026 12:35

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If you are 80 years old yourself, you're not going to throw 80 year old women in your vids of course.
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Well, there's the point: why not? If you really want to be rock n roll (in the sense of breaking taboos, go against the mainstream, do something else, be authentic etc...), show women your own age. Not a girl that could be your granddaughter.
It's pathetic and sad.

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