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Looking back, that 2024 US tour was so special. The new material, the way they played, the shows being so good with no issues. What a blessing.

You're so right.

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I’ll agree that a mere ‘handful’ of shows is a possibility. I do suspect there is a feeling that the forthcoming album promotion should entail at least some ‘live element’ Then again, if the album is to be released soon, and it’s absolutely confirmed that there will be be no performances this year, will they even bother next year? It’s almost a literal ‘I simply don’t know’ situation.

They should just do another one of these

is that from the emotional rescue release party?

if so i agree

Yes

So we're about to enter the month of March. With no tour, might the release schedule be relaxed? I mean, they could release it at any time, really. I do suppose a release date may hinge on whatever promotion is in the works. I'm just wondering, as, as we all know, Ronnie a few solo shows scheduled for the summer.

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I do suppose a release date may hinge on whatever promotion is in the works.

If the album will be released end of May 2026, then the marketing machinery should start early April - [iorr.org] . If not, then a release like in 2023 could be possible.

Of course you can just drop the album on the market but usually there is a marketing plan behind it. Like when they dropped HD. Some sort of press conference or release show. Maybe even a video recorded and released for the first single.
And so on. So, usually, there is a time consuming apparatus behind it before anything happens. And often it is Jagger doing most of the work on the band's behalf.

Good chance the Stones are only doing this for the music, their fans, and themselves.

I am fairly certain at this point in their career/age, that they aren't concerned about:
- the marketplace
- which is the best option for 3rd single
- that one person will agonize over their choice of album cover and/or album title the next several years, claiming that harmed all sales, etc.

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So we're about to enter the month of March. With no tour, might the release schedule be relaxed? I mean, they could release it at any time, really. I do suppose a release date may hinge on whatever promotion is in the works. I'm just wondering, as, as we all know, Ronnie a few solo shows scheduled for the summer.

Good for Ronnie. Can’t see band touring without Keith but who knows..look at Rush.

Thank god, someone wrote at least here. The first seven eight non-sticky threads are OT...

Probably there is not just so much to talk about The Stones now or any longer. No news or good rumours, and the past is covered thousands of times already.

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So we're about to enter the month of March. With no tour, might the release schedule be relaxed? I mean, they could release it at any time, really. I do suppose a release date may hinge on whatever promotion is in the works. I'm just wondering, as, as we all know, Ronnie a few solo shows scheduled for the summer.

Yeah, they could release it any time, really. But that's not necessarily a good thing. The tour offered it a purpose or function, and with that a deadline. And now the album stands on its own. If what georgelicks said about them treating it as a last album is true, then they might think carefully when to use that very last bullet. When would be the best option to use it. Namely: it doesn't really matter if it is released in three months or in three years. I am afraid that they have no any hurry at the moment, quite the opposite.

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So we're about to enter the month of March. With no tour, might the release schedule be relaxed? I mean, they could release it at any time, really. I do suppose a release date may hinge on whatever promotion is in the works. I'm just wondering, as, as we all know, Ronnie a few solo shows scheduled for the summer.

Yeah, they could release it any time, really. But that's not necessarily a good thing. The tour offered it a purpose or function, and with that a deadline. And now the album stands on its own. If what georgelicks said about them treating it as a last album is true, then they might think carefully when to use that very last bullet. When would be the best option to use it. Namely: it doesn't really matter if it is released in three months or in three years. I am afraid that they have no any hurry at the moment, quite the opposite.

- Doxa

When you're 82, turning 83, male and born in England during the war there can be a risk postponing things too long. Release the album while there still is time for it....

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So we're about to enter the month of March. With no tour, might the release schedule be relaxed? I mean, they could release it at any time, really. I do suppose a release date may hinge on whatever promotion is in the works. I'm just wondering, as, as we all know, Ronnie a few solo shows scheduled for the summer.

Yeah, they could release it any time, really. But that's not necessarily a good thing. The tour offered it a purpose or function, and with that a deadline. And now the album stands on its own. If what georgelicks said about them treating it as a last album is true, then they might think carefully when to use that very last bullet. When would be the best option to use it. Namely: it doesn't really matter if it is released in three months or in three years. I am afraid that they have no any hurry at the moment, quite the opposite.

- Doxa

When you're 82, turning 83, male and born in England during the war there can be a risk postponing things too long. Release the album while there still is time for it....

But they have already done their share of it. The album is done. They know what it is like and releasing it will not change anything. I don't believe that they even consider the scenario 'hey, lets's release it before we are dead'. Probably they think more like 'well, if the shit happens, at least we saved from doing stupid and boring promo shit. Besides the album will sell more in that case, which is more fun to our heirs'. For making albums, like playing live, one needs living artists, but not for releasing them.

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Whatever happened to the 'making of Hackney Diamonds' documentary? Or, am I imagining such a thing being discussed here, before. It'd be a little pointless to release it now, wouldn't it? We'd all watch it, of course!

I think doing 3 very small like tiny desk gig would give the play a chance to just play for fun..drop a song on howard stern...put a ad on netflix and just go enjoy life.i think drp the album now would make news
But if every time you sign on to netflix there a promo for the new stones album

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Whatever happened to the 'making of Hackney Diamonds' documentary? Or, am I imagining such a thing being discussed here, before. It'd be a little pointless to release it now, wouldn't it? We'd all watch it, of course!

It was not only us discussing here, but at some point there were public statements about it. As I recall it was already ready to go, but they were looking for a distributor (or something like) for it. Seemingly they never found anyone interested or offering that much money they wanted it. Probably that is good reminder that they are not that keen on releasing anything just for the fun of it (or 'for art's sake'), but there needs to be a 'good deal'. Unfortunately now it is nothing but a historical curiosity attracting only us diehards. Pretty hard to imagine what would motivate them to release it now (when HACKNEY DIAMONDS gets a deluxe treatment?). Possibly there is a new film already made to be released or not...

Cold seriousness aside, I think the real story of making HACKNEY DIAMONDS should start from 2015 and taking 8 years. Actually I would love to hear that story, since we followed it carefully from outside, and were wondering whatever there was happening... They probably had told a different story in that document, though...

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It'd be a little pointless to release it now, wouldn't it?

Maybe they could release it after the new studio album, along with another ‘making-of’ about the 2026 album. Or they could use parts of the footage for a new documentary in 2027 for their 65th anniversary. Or at some point as part of an anthology.

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Whatever happened to the 'making of Hackney Diamonds' documentary? Or, am I imagining such a thing being discussed here, before. It'd be a little pointless to release it now, wouldn't it? We'd all watch it, of course!

It was not only us discussing here, but at some point there were public statements about it. As I recall it was already ready to go, but they were looking for a distributor (or something like) for it. Seemingly they never found anyone interested or offering that much money they wanted it. Probably that is good reminder that they are not that keen on releasing anything just for the fun of it (or 'for art's sake'), but there needs to be a 'good deal'. Unfortunately now it is nothing but a historical curiosity attracting only us diehards. Pretty hard to imagine what would motivate them to release it now (when HACKNEY DIAMONDS gets a deluxe treatment?). Possibly there is a new film already made to be released or not...

Cold seriousness aside, I think the real story of making HACKNEY DIAMONDS should start from 2015 and taking 8 years. Actually I would love to hear that story, since we followed it carefully from outside, and were wondering whatever there was happening... They probably had told a different story in that document, though...

- Doxa

Eagle Rock/Eagle Vision has released several things without a good deal, possibly for the fun of it because it's unlikely very many people bought BRIDGES TO either one, as well as quite a few other releases.

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Eagle Rock/Eagle Vision has released several things without a good deal, possibly for the fun of it because it's unlikely very many people bought BRIDGES TO either one, as well as quite a few other releases.

Yeah, I wouldn't rule out that possibility at all. It is pure nerd stuff now, made for you and me, and Eagle pleases us. Most likely it was at the time thought to a part of promoting HACKNEY DIAMONDS. Maybe showing it on some platform like NETFLIX would have done that.

But the thing is: we don't have a clue what really happened to that film. Maybe Mick just on the last minute decided that it was crap... He has a notorious history of that..

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Eagle Rock/Eagle Vision has released several things without a good deal, possibly for the fun of it because it's unlikely very many people bought BRIDGES TO either one, as well as quite a few other releases.

Yeah, I wouldn't rule out that possibility at all. It is pure nerd stuff now, made for you and me, and Eagle pleases us. Most likely it was at the time thought to a part of promoting HACKNEY DIAMONDS. Maybe showing it on some platform like NETFLIX would have done that.

But the thing is: we don't have a clue what really happened to that film. Maybe Mick just on the last minute decided that it was crap... He has a notorious history of that..

- Doxa

While that's possible he thought it was crap, there's one other possibility: he saw UMe fall on their face with promoting HD by not releasing anything in 2024.

Angry was roughly 20 days later followed with Sweet Sounds and then Mess It Up in various ways the day the album was released, the download available in mid-November and the video in mid-December.

The 18 month plan died in Deccember 2023. Why UMe didn't release a single right before or during the tour in 2024 is mind boggling.

I don't see any hype lasting a day past the new LP release.

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Looking back, that 2024 US tour was so special. The new material, the way they played, the shows being so good with no issues. What a blessing.

You're so right.

The delusions are strong here. The boot recordings of those shows show a very painful and sad decline--quite alarming actually.2021-2 shows the same. No issues? Hardly a truthful assessment. But then again I'm not a sycophant or fanboy. Gotta call those balls and strikes as I see 'em. 2019 was just barely OK, should have quit in 2015 at the latest. I know it's tough to acknowledge, but the level of pie-in-the-sky scenarios for them is simply and weirdly otherworldly. It is 2026, not 1966.

None of this is what matters to most of us. Ok to they lost a step or two due to their age, but it is still the best show to see.

It is not just the bands performance. It is the entire vibe of the fans, the concert and the after-show stories that make the experience.

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Looking back, that 2024 US tour was so special. The new material, the way they played, the shows being so good with no issues. What a blessing.

You're so right.

The delusions are strong here. The boot recordings of those shows show a very painful and sad decline--quite alarming actually.2021-2 shows the same. No issues? Hardly a truthful assessment. But then again I'm not a sycophant or fanboy. Gotta call those balls and strikes as I see 'em. 2019 was just barely OK, should have quit in 2015 at the latest. I know it's tough to acknowledge, but the level of pie-in-the-sky scenarios for them is simply and weirdly otherworldly. It is 2026, not 1966.[/quote]

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Eagle Rock/Eagle Vision has released several things without a good deal, possibly for the fun of it because it's unlikely very many people bought BRIDGES TO either one, as well as quite a few other releases.

Yeah, I wouldn't rule out that possibility at all. It is pure nerd stuff now, made for you and me, and Eagle pleases us. Most likely it was at the time thought to a part of promoting HACKNEY DIAMONDS. Maybe showing it on some platform like NETFLIX would have done that.

But the thing is: we don't have a clue what really happened to that film. Maybe Mick just on the last minute decided that it was crap... He has a notorious history of that..

- Doxa

While that's possible he thought it was crap, there's one other possibility: he saw UMe fall on their face with promoting HD by not releasing anything in 2024.

Angry was roughly 20 days later followed with Sweet Sounds and then Mess It Up in various ways the day the album was released, the download available in mid-November and the video in mid-December.

The 18 month plan died in Deccember 2023. Why UMe didn't release a single right before or during the tour in 2024 is mind boggling.

I don't see any hype lasting a day past the new LP release.

Sometimes you take what someone says too literally. The famous 18-month plan is ridiculous for any legacy artist. No release from any established artist lasted more than a few weeks on the charts or in the media, 95% of their market is physical sales, and those die within a week of release once all the die-hard fans have gotten their copies. They don't attract anyone else, much less through streaming. Nobody's going to throw money away on something that doesn't generate any return.

No fourth single from the album was going to make any impact on radio or anywhere else. SSOH was the second single, and nobody cared, even though it featured Lady Gaga, who still makes hits.

90% of Hackney Diamonds' budget went to Angry and its video, which generated over 40 million views on YouTube and was the only thing that made any impact. The budget was almost exhausted for everything that came after that, and Universal wasn't going to waste any more money on an album that generated all it had to generate in the first 2-3 weeks and in the pre-sale.

well said georgelicks ......



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Looking back, that 2024 US tour was so special. The new material, the way they played, the shows being so good with no issues. What a blessing.

You're so right.

The delusions are strong here. The boot recordings of those shows show a very painful and sad decline--quite alarming actually.2021-2 shows the same. No issues? Hardly a truthful assessment. But then again I'm not a sycophant or fanboy. Gotta call those balls and strikes as I see 'em. 2019 was just barely OK, should have quit in 2015 at the latest. I know it's tough to acknowledge, but the level of pie-in-the-sky scenarios for them is simply and weirdly otherworldly. It is 2026, not 1966.

That happens with any fan of any artist, there are countless cases of people who go to see shows by old artists saying it was the best show they ever saw just to see them there and relive the experience one more time.

Chuck Berry could barely stand in his last shows and people still went to see him and surely they would do the same if it were the Stones, not all the fans, but many would still go to see them, even if they were crawling on stage, just to be there, eat a hamburger, have a beer, buy the show's t-shirt, etc.

even if they were crawling on stage


YEAH bring back the Midnight Rambler crawl and belt whipping ..,. WHACK !!!!!



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There were days
and there were days
and there were days between
Summer flies and August dies
and the world grows dark and mean

Comes the shimmer of the moon
on black infested trees
the singing man is at his song
the holy on their knees
The reckless are out wrecking
The timid plead their pleas
No one knows much more of this
than anyone can see anyone can see

There were days
and there were days
and there were days besides
when phantom ships with phantom sails
set to sea on phantom tides

Comes the lightning of the sun
on bright unfocused eyes
the blue of yet another day
a springtime wet with sighs
a hopeful candle lingers
in the land of lullabies
where headless horsemen vanish
with wild and lonely cries lonely cries

There were days
and there were days
and there were days I know
when all we ever wanted
was to learn and love and grow

Once we grew into our shoes
we told them where to go
Walked halfway around the world
on promise of the glow
Stood upon a mountain top
Walked barefoot in the snow
Gave the best we had to give
How much we'll never know

There were days
and there were days
and there were days between
polished like a golden bowl
The finest ever seen
Hearts of Summer held in trust
still tender, young and green
left on shelves collecting dust
not knowing what they mean

Valentines of flesh and blood
as soft as velveteen
hoping love would not forsake
the days that lie between
lie between

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Songwriters: Robert Hunter / Jerome Garcia

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Looking back, that 2024 US tour was so special. The new material, the way they played, the shows being so good with no issues. What a blessing.

You're so right.

The delusions are strong here. The boot recordings of those shows show a very painful and sad decline--quite alarming actually.2021-2 shows the same. No issues? Hardly a truthful assessment. But then again I'm not a sycophant or fanboy. Gotta call those balls and strikes as I see 'em. 2019 was just barely OK, should have quit in 2015 at the latest. I know it's tough to acknowledge, but the level of pie-in-the-sky scenarios for them is simply and weirdly otherworldly. It is 2026, not 1966.

they played better and more consistently in 2022 and 2024 then in 2019

at least to me when comparing the boots

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No issues? Hardly a truthful assessment.

I took that to mean no cancellations or postponements.

Didn't hear the pain or sadness that overwhelmed you either.



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Whatever happened to the 'making of Hackney Diamonds' documentary? Or, am I imagining such a thing being discussed here, before. It'd be a little pointless to release it now, wouldn't it? We'd all watch it, of course!

I guess it got shelved. Maybe it wasn't just as thrilling or insightful. According to [en.wikipedia.org] the working title was "The Stones: Still Rolling". In view of the cancelled unannounced tour, wouldn't really fit the scenario (apart from being a little late by now). Maybe it will come with the 50th anniversary super-deluxe edition of HD - for our grand (or great-grand) kids to enjoy.

If Universal Music needs a marketing idea for the new studio album:

[iorr.org] · [Blog.Ritter-Sport.de]

And maybe in the future you can stick two Riesen in your ears to work as wireless headphones.