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Re: The Rolling Stones studio works 2025
Posted by: GerardHennessy ()
Date: May 31, 2025 18:26

Everyone seems to have given upon anything new, exciting or creative emerging. Why? The band can go on for YEARS yet. Mick is just short of 82. Keith does not turn 82 until this Christmas. Ronnie is even younger. I can see no reason why they can't go on for at least another five years. Even longer. Certainly until 2030.

Do any of us seriously think that Mick will be unable to deliver his usual level of performance when he is 87? Or that Keith will have to remain seated when he is 86? Their demise has been endlessly forecasted and anticipated and awaited for the past thirty years. And it has not yet happened. And it will not happen for several years yet.

I actually think The Stones will continue until Mick turns 90. And not just as a performing entity either! I believe they will continue to record fresh material as well as releasing items from the archives. Archives that are stuffed to the brim with material going all the way back to the 60's.

We have much to remain excited about. Much to anticipate. Much to look forward to.

Chin up folks. The end is most certainly NOT nigh!

Re: The Rolling Stones studio works 2025
Posted by: ProfessorWolf ()
Date: May 31, 2025 19:54

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GerardHennessy
Everyone seems to have given upon anything new, exciting or creative emerging. Why? The band can go on for YEARS yet. Mick is just short of 82. Keith does not turn 82 until this Christmas. Ronnie is even younger. I can see no reason why they can't go on for at least another five years. Even longer. Certainly until 2030.

Do any of us seriously think that Mick will be unable to deliver his usual level of performance when he is 87? Or that Keith will have to remain seated when he is 86? Their demise has been endlessly forecasted and anticipated and awaited for the past thirty years. And it has not yet happened. And it will not happen for several years yet.

I actually think The Stones will continue until Mick turns 90. And not just as a performing entity either! I believe they will continue to record fresh material as well as releasing items from the archives. Archives that are stuffed to the brim with material going all the way back to the 60's.

We have much to remain excited about. Much to anticipate. Much to look forward to.

Chin up folks. The end is most certainly NOT nigh!

i assume your being sarcastic

yes they'll be dead soon

no they won't go on touring and releasing albums for ten more years

no the new album is not gonna be up to the standards of there best work 50+ years ago nor was hackney diamonds

no one here is arguing the opposite of any of those points

so what's your problem?

do you not think it's realistic to expect the band to last long enough to finish the album there working on or is it that some of us think/hope it might actually be good?

do you take issue with thinking there's anything left in the vaults worth releasing?

or do find the idea that they'll release more from the vaults unrealistic?

should we not have any expectations at all of them in the short time they have left as a band?

are we not being nihilistic enough for you?

if you have something to say please say it but don't just resort to sarcastic nonsense

Re: The Rolling Stones studio works 2025
Posted by: GasLightStreet ()
Date: May 31, 2025 19:58

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Every Rolling Stones album has at least 3/4 songs that I really like, so i'm always looking forward to a new album. Even if it more like Dirty Work than Sticky Fingers.

Leftover is a derogatory term in my opinion. Maybe they just don't wanted two bluessongs or two country tunes on Hackney Diamonds, so they left the other ones on the shelf.

Also, it's been 27 months since Hackney Diamonds was finished. I can't imagine they haven't written any new songs in the meantime.

Correct your opinion about "leftover" - it has served The Rolling Stones fantastically from 1968 through 1983 (depending on.... opinion, of course, but as far as I understand their last leftover was Cellophane Trousers for Too Tough).

EOMS has a lot of SF sessions leftovers. TY is 100% leftovers.

How you could like DW more than SF is bizarre. DW is kids with training wheels bad.

It's a bit misleading to say all TY was leftovers, unfinished songs or a germ of a song but then brought into a completely different process and production. Like ( for Instance SFTD started out as a Samba ) on TY SMU started out completely differently, what makes a track what it becomes has very little to do with the leftovers, songs becomes incredible or shit within the recording process.

Like with the new album, we already know it's a Jagger/ Watts production, so I'll bet it will sound very similar to Hackney Diamonds, i don't expect much else, good for you as you like old men trying to sound young, perhaps that makes you feel young, who knows, I'd rather my Stones grew up and created something more honest.

What's misleading is someone saying that TY being 100% leftovers is misleading. Two rock takes of Start Me Up, one of which is the album version, within 40 or 50 something "reggae" takes.

Aside from the rock performances, Never Stop never got beyond being a (horrible) "reggae" track, unlike SFTD evolving. SMU never evolved.

100% leftovers is TATTOO YOU and they had much more to work on if they'd wanted. It's too bad they didn't.

Re: The Rolling Stones studio works 2025
Posted by: Bashlets ()
Date: May 31, 2025 23:05

The stones are humans. Just like us their priorities in life changed. Grand kids, great grand kids, new friends, changing interests. Jagger at 25 shagging anything that walked was his priority. He probably still enjoys the shagging but it’s no longer his top priority. He still loves performing and making new music. We should feel blessed. It’s not like they need the money, the fame, or a mention about their contribution to rock. I look forward to anything they feel like throwing at us.

Re: The Rolling Stones studio works 2025
Posted by: MadMax ()
Date: June 1, 2025 03:42

All we want is Don or Chris to come back cos obviously the new kid on the block ain't cutting it like some of us want smileys with beer

I still feel Steve Jordan put it best in december 2023. Along with Keith's sentiments back in April 2019...? Hey Get ON on our Cloud! smileys with beer

Re: The Rolling Stones studio works 2025
Posted by: retired_dog ()
Date: June 1, 2025 06:24

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Bashlets
The stones are humans. Just like us their priorities in life changed. Grand kids, great grand kids, new friends, changing interests. Jagger at 25 shagging anything that walked was his priority. He probably still enjoys the shagging but it’s no longer his top priority. He still loves performing and making new music. We should feel blessed. It’s not like they need the money, the fame, or a mention about their contribution to rock. I look forward to anything they feel like throwing at us.

Count me in! Even more so because there is no pressure whatsoever to record and release new material so they're obviously doing it because they're inspired to do it and that's a sign as promising as it can possibly be.

Re: The Rolling Stones studio works 2025
Posted by: georgie48 ()
Date: June 1, 2025 14:22

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Bashlets
The stones are humans. Just like us their priorities in life changed. Grand kids, great grand kids, new friends, changing interests. Jagger at 25 shagging anything that walked was his priority. He probably still enjoys the shagging but it’s no longer his top priority. He still loves performing and making new music. We should feel blessed. It’s not like they need the money, the fame, or a mention about their contribution to rock. I look forward to anything they feel like throwing at us.

Count me in! Even more so because there is no pressure whatsoever to record and release new material so they're obviously doing it because they're inspired to do it and that's a sign as promising as it can possibly be.

With nearly 77 years on my clock I’m like you guys. While currently in Japan, I look forward to pick up my ordered HD CD + Blue Ray in 10 days and already I can look forward to yet another, for sure (I’m entitled to say so after 61+ years of knowing the Stones) very enjoyable set of songs on yet another Rolling Stones album. What would the Universe be with the Rolling Stones? Only stars that give us headaches. Those stars can’t even produce an enjoyable song. I’m happy to enjoy my time together with the only stars that count tot me: THE ROLLING STONES

I'm a GHOST living in a ghost town

Re: The Rolling Stones studio works 2025
Posted by: treaclefingers ()
Date: June 1, 2025 17:53

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Everyone seems to have given upon anything new, exciting or creative emerging. Why? The band can go on for YEARS yet. Mick is just short of 82. Keith does not turn 82 until this Christmas. Ronnie is even younger. I can see no reason why they can't go on for at least another five years. Even longer. Certainly until 2030.

Do any of us seriously think that Mick will be unable to deliver his usual level of performance when he is 87? Or that Keith will have to remain seated when he is 86? Their demise has been endlessly forecasted and anticipated and awaited for the past thirty years. And it has not yet happened. And it will not happen for several years yet.

I actually think The Stones will continue until Mick turns 90. And not just as a performing entity either! I believe they will continue to record fresh material as well as releasing items from the archives. Archives that are stuffed to the brim with material going all the way back to the 60's.

We have much to remain excited about. Much to anticipate. Much to look forward to.

Chin up folks. The end is most certainly NOT nigh!

i assume your being sarcastic

yes they'll be dead soon

no they won't go on touring and releasing albums for ten more years

no the new album is not gonna be up to the standards of there best work 50+ years ago nor was hackney diamonds

no one here is arguing the opposite of any of those points

so what's your problem?

do you not think it's realistic to expect the band to last long enough to finish the album there working on or is it that some of us think/hope it might actually be good?

do you take issue with thinking there's anything left in the vaults worth releasing?

or do find the idea that they'll release more from the vaults unrealistic?

should we not have any expectations at all of them in the short time they have left as a band?

are we not being nihilistic enough for you?

if you have something to say please say it but don't just resort to sarcastic nonsense

Well I am probably totally naive, but what I read didn't sound sarcastic from Gerald. It sounded completely plausible.

True were it 2012, you might not opine they would be putting out new material or touring in 2026. But at this point, I think you could reasonably forecast the next 5 years, understanding that things could end in a moment.

In 2012, I was amongst a number of other posters that predicted we'd see the "never-ending" tour develop with smaller batches of dates and longer breaks between shows, and maybe a residency in London New York or Vegas. That's mostly held true with the exception of the residencies. We also thought there'd be some new material along the way, which you can read ad nauseum in the "New Album" speculation threads.

I don't think I could have imagined though, in 2012 for them to be touring past 2020, and now we're even halfway through the decade talking about a new album.

I agree 2030 looks reasonable...after that who knows. Let's be happy with what we've gotten so far and understand we are well beyond bonus territory.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2025-06-01 17:55 by treaclefingers.

Re: The Rolling Stones studio works 2025
Posted by: ProfessorWolf ()
Date: June 1, 2025 19:03

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ProfessorWolf
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GerardHennessy
Everyone seems to have given upon anything new, exciting or creative emerging. Why? The band can go on for YEARS yet. Mick is just short of 82. Keith does not turn 82 until this Christmas. Ronnie is even younger. I can see no reason why they can't go on for at least another five years. Even longer. Certainly until 2030.

Do any of us seriously think that Mick will be unable to deliver his usual level of performance when he is 87? Or that Keith will have to remain seated when he is 86? Their demise has been endlessly forecasted and anticipated and awaited for the past thirty years. And it has not yet happened. And it will not happen for several years yet.

I actually think The Stones will continue until Mick turns 90. And not just as a performing entity either! I believe they will continue to record fresh material as well as releasing items from the archives. Archives that are stuffed to the brim with material going all the way back to the 60's.

We have much to remain excited about. Much to anticipate. Much to look forward to.

Chin up folks. The end is most certainly NOT nigh!

i assume your being sarcastic

yes they'll be dead soon

no they won't go on touring and releasing albums for ten more years

no the new album is not gonna be up to the standards of there best work 50+ years ago nor was hackney diamonds

no one here is arguing the opposite of any of those points

so what's your problem?

do you not think it's realistic to expect the band to last long enough to finish the album there working on or is it that some of us think/hope it might actually be good?

do you take issue with thinking there's anything left in the vaults worth releasing?

or do find the idea that they'll release more from the vaults unrealistic?

should we not have any expectations at all of them in the short time they have left as a band?

are we not being nihilistic enough for you?

if you have something to say please say it but don't just resort to sarcastic nonsense

Well I am probably totally naive, but what I read didn't sound sarcastic from Gerald. It sounded completely plausible.

True were it 2012, you might not opine they would be putting out new material or touring in 2026. But at this point, I think you could reasonably forecast the next 5 years, understanding that things could end in a moment.

In 2012, I was amongst a number of other posters that predicted we'd see the "never-ending" tour develop with smaller batches of dates and longer breaks between shows, and maybe a residency in London New York or Vegas. That's mostly held true with the exception of the residencies. We also thought there'd be some new material along the way, which you can read ad nauseum in the "New Album" speculation threads.

I don't think I could have imagined though, in 2012 for them to be touring past 2020, and now we're even halfway through the decade talking about a new album.

I agree 2030 looks reasonable...after that who knows. Let's be happy with what we've gotten so far and understand we are well beyond bonus territory.

he is being sarcastic and this isn't the first post he's made like this

just go look at the stuff he was posting just two months ago and then tell me this comes off as genuine

apologies if i'm wrong and there's nothing wrong with holding the opinons i think he holds

but i mean does this bit delivered as if it's just common sense come off as serious to you?

Do any of us seriously think that Mick will be unable to deliver his usual level of performance when he is 87? Or that Keith will have to remain seated when he is 86?



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Re: The Rolling Stones studio works 2025
Posted by: Irix ()
Date: June 1, 2025 20:05

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GerardHennessy

Do any of us seriously think that Mick will be unable to deliver his usual level of performance when he is 87? Or that Keith will have to remain seated when he is 86?

Have a close look at Bill Wyman at the age of 87 - [Instagram.com] .

Re: The Rolling Stones studio works 2025
Posted by: keefriffhards ()
Date: June 1, 2025 20:15

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ProfessorWolf
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ProfessorWolf
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GerardHennessy
Everyone seems to have given upon anything new, exciting or creative emerging. Why? The band can go on for YEARS yet. Mick is just short of 82. Keith does not turn 82 until this Christmas. Ronnie is even younger. I can see no reason why they can't go on for at least another five years. Even longer. Certainly until 2030.

Do any of us seriously think that Mick will be unable to deliver his usual level of performance when he is 87? Or that Keith will have to remain seated when he is 86? Their demise has been endlessly forecasted and anticipated and awaited for the past thirty years. And it has not yet happened. And it will not happen for several years yet.

I actually think The Stones will continue until Mick turns 90. And not just as a performing entity either! I believe they will continue to record fresh material as well as releasing items from the archives. Archives that are stuffed to the brim with material going all the way back to the 60's.

We have much to remain excited about. Much to anticipate. Much to look forward to.

Chin up folks. The end is most certainly NOT nigh!

i assume your being sarcastic

yes they'll be dead soon

no they won't go on touring and releasing albums for ten more years

no the new album is not gonna be up to the standards of there best work 50+ years ago nor was hackney diamonds

no one here is arguing the opposite of any of those points

so what's your problem?

do you not think it's realistic to expect the band to last long enough to finish the album there working on or is it that some of us think/hope it might actually be good?

do you take issue with thinking there's anything left in the vaults worth releasing?

or do find the idea that they'll release more from the vaults unrealistic?

should we not have any expectations at all of them in the short time they have left as a band?

are we not being nihilistic enough for you?

if you have something to say please say it but don't just resort to sarcastic nonsense

Well I am probably totally naive, but what I read didn't sound sarcastic from Gerald. It sounded completely plausible.

True were it 2012, you might not opine they would be putting out new material or touring in 2026. But at this point, I think you could reasonably forecast the next 5 years, understanding that things could end in a moment.

In 2012, I was amongst a number of other posters that predicted we'd see the "never-ending" tour develop with smaller batches of dates and longer breaks between shows, and maybe a residency in London New York or Vegas. That's mostly held true with the exception of the residencies. We also thought there'd be some new material along the way, which you can read ad nauseum in the "New Album" speculation threads.

I don't think I could have imagined though, in 2012 for them to be touring past 2020, and now we're even halfway through the decade talking about a new album.

I agree 2030 looks reasonable...after that who knows. Let's be happy with what we've gotten so far and understand we are well beyond bonus territory.

he is being sarcastic and this isn't the first post he's made like this

just go look at the stuff he was posting just two months ago and then tell me this comes off as genuine

apologies if i'm wrong and there's nothing wrong with holding the opinons i think he holds

but i mean does this bit delivered as if it's just common sense come off as serious to you?

Do any of us seriously think that Mick will be unable to deliver his usual level of performance when he is 87? Or that Keith will have to remain seated when he is 86?

Personally i think Mick struggled last time out, not just physically but he has to protect that voice ( we had Keith singing 3 songs ) so much it's getting to the point if he tours stadiums again he can only perform once or twice a week, and we all know logistically that's not viable, could be the reason this year's tour didn't get going.
I'm no expert on what an 82 year olds body can take with heart disease, but Mick is really pushing the limits now, I'd hate for anything to happen to him on stage or off.

I honestly think that's it now and we can't ask or expect more from him.
He was looking tired last year, constantly pacing himself, where is the joy in that.

Leave it to the WHO to ruin their legacy.

Re: The Rolling Stones studio works 2025
Posted by: Doxa ()
Date: June 1, 2025 20:49

Oh so sweet to read our number one Jagger hater speculating and nagging about Jagger's health based on his own observations. How low can one go?

Go on, gentlemen.

- Doxa

Re: The Rolling Stones studio works 2025
Posted by: treaclefingers ()
Date: June 1, 2025 21:52

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Oh so sweet to read our number one Jagger hater speculating and nagging about Jagger's health based on his own observations. How low can one go?

Go on, gentlemen.

- Doxa

And attempting to come off as though he cares. Frankly it's a bit sickening.

And I'm not saying that at 86 Jagger will be running around wildly gesticulating, but as I said, I think it's plausible they could continue given where we are, though anything can happen at any moment and we're far beyond "extra time" as far as what we should expect or deserve.

Re: The Rolling Stones studio works 2025
Posted by: treaclefingers ()
Date: June 1, 2025 21:54

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Do any of us seriously think that Mick will be unable to deliver his usual level of performance when he is 87? Or that Keith will have to remain seated when he is 86?

Have a close look at Bill Wyman at the age of 87 - [Instagram.com] .

And Wyman barely moved around in the first place!

Re: The Rolling Stones studio works 2025
Posted by: WelshEdge1 ()
Date: June 2, 2025 00:52

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GerardHennessy

Do any of us seriously think that Mick will be unable to deliver his usual level of performance when he is 87? Or that Keith will have to remain seated when he is 86?

Have a close look at Bill Wyman at the age of 87 - [Instagram.com] .

Yes, he's on a walking stick.

Re: The Rolling Stones studio works 2025
Posted by: keefriffhards ()
Date: June 2, 2025 01:58

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Doxa
Oh so sweet to read our number one Jagger hater speculating and nagging about Jagger's health based on his own observations. How low can one go?

Go on, gentlemen.

- Doxa

There you are.

So I've spent tens of thousands of pounds and travelled to see Mick live over the past 35 years and i don't love him.

Get help Doxa, I've asked you nicely don't comment on each others posts like we agreed.

Re: The Rolling Stones studio works 2025
Posted by: Munichhilton ()
Date: June 2, 2025 03:36

Does this place have a snack machine? I’ve never found it…need some power bars and a 7up

Re: The Rolling Stones studio works 2025
Posted by: GasLightStreet ()
Date: June 2, 2025 06:50

Mick sang flat on all of the HD songs live in 2024.

Bizarrely.

As in, he wasn't flat anywhere else.

In 2012-14 he rushed the words for Doom And Gloom.

So what's Mick's issue with singing new songs flat?

Overdoing it?

Maybe.

Are the songs in a key that doesn't work?

Unlikely.

Mick's range is nothing like Bono's and Stones songs don't wander too much regarding the keys.

Can't blame age since he sings everything else in key.

As long as the albums are good, as usual, that's what will be permanent. The shows - whatever; forgotten hours after except for YouTube and even that doesn't equate numbers wise.

Then look at history: 1975-76 he didn't exactly sing. Nor 1981-82. He's been much better since if not great. That was a long time ago, though, so whatever.

The Stones have spent more time in recording studios than any other band (I have zero to back that up except their discography). They've also played more live shows than any other band or artist (same).

So what.

They keep going.

They're not Frank Sinatra.

Re: The Rolling Stones studio works 2025
Posted by: treaclefingers ()
Date: June 2, 2025 07:17

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Does this place have a snack machine? I’ve never found it…need some power bars and a 7up

Ah...blood sugar's a little low then. BV had the old snack machines removed as we prepare for IORR 2.0, so sorry about that.

Actually, I think this is IORR 3.0, wasn't there a change in the early 2000s (before my time - anyone remember keno.org?).

What were we talking about again? Right, studio works 2025. BRING IT ON!

Re: The Rolling Stones studio works 2025
Posted by: Bastion ()
Date: June 2, 2025 11:15

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GerardHennessy
Everyone seems to have given upon anything new, exciting or creative emerging. Why? The band can go on for YEARS yet. Mick is just short of 82. Keith does not turn 82 until this Christmas. Ronnie is even younger. I can see no reason why they can't go on for at least another five years. Even longer. Certainly until 2030.

Do any of us seriously think that Mick will be unable to deliver his usual level of performance when he is 87? Or that Keith will have to remain seated when he is 86? Their demise has been endlessly forecasted and anticipated and awaited for the past thirty years. And it has not yet happened. And it will not happen for several years yet.

I actually think The Stones will continue until Mick turns 90. And not just as a performing entity either! I believe they will continue to record fresh material as well as releasing items from the archives. Archives that are stuffed to the brim with material going all the way back to the 60's.

We have much to remain excited about. Much to anticipate. Much to look forward to.

Chin up folks. The end is most certainly NOT nigh!

So much to unpack here. I can picture the tears falling down your cheeks as you typed this.

Re: The Rolling Stones studio works 2025
Date: June 2, 2025 11:26

<Are the songs in a key that doesn't work?

Unlikely.>

Actually, that's a good point. It did sound like Mess It Up and Angry were slightly too high-pitched for him.

Re: The Rolling Stones studio works 2025
Posted by: Big Al ()
Date: June 2, 2025 11:44

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GerardHennessy
Everyone seems to have given upon anything new, exciting or creative emerging. Why? The band can go on for YEARS yet. Mick is just short of 82. Keith does not turn 82 until this Christmas. Ronnie is even younger. I can see no reason why they can't go on for at least another five years. Even longer. Certainly until 2030.

Do any of us seriously think that Mick will be unable to deliver his usual level of performance when he is 87? Or that Keith will have to remain seated when he is 86? Their demise has been endlessly forecasted and anticipated and awaited for the past thirty years. And it has not yet happened. And it will not happen for several years yet.

I actually think The Stones will continue until Mick turns 90. And not just as a performing entity either! I believe they will continue to record fresh material as well as releasing items from the archives. Archives that are stuffed to the brim with material going all the way back to the 60's.

We have much to remain excited about. Much to anticipate. Much to look forward to.

Chin up folks. The end is most certainly NOT nigh!

So much to unpack here. I can picture the tears falling down your cheeks as you typed this.

Yes, it's incredibly heartfelt; almost a lover letter to their continued longevity. However, I suspect it's somewhat tongue-in-cheek.

Re: The Rolling Stones studio works 2025
Posted by: Jalfstra ()
Date: June 2, 2025 12:13

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GasLightStreet
Mick sang flat on all of the HD songs live in 2024.

Bizarrely.

As in, he wasn't flat anywhere else.

In 2012-14 he rushed the words for Doom And Gloom.

So what's Mick's issue with singing new songs flat?

Overdoing it?

Maybe.

Are the songs in a key that doesn't work?

Unlikely.

Mick's range is nothing like Bono's and Stones songs don't wander too much regarding the keys.

Can't blame age since he sings everything else in key.

As long as the albums are good, as usual, that's what will be permanent. The shows - whatever; forgotten hours after except for YouTube and even that doesn't equate numbers wise.

Then look at history: 1975-76 he didn't exactly sing. Nor 1981-82. He's been much better since if not great. That was a long time ago, though, so whatever.

The Stones have spent more time in recording studios than any other band (I have zero to back that up except their discography). They've also played more live shows than any other band or artist (same).

So what.

They keep going.

They're not Frank Sinatra.

Singing in a studio in perfect conditions and with modern techniques like autotune is of course very different from performing live in your 80's. And Mick is still dancing and moving for about 2 hours. Obviously he sounds flat and rushed and skips words.

Re: The Rolling Stones studio works 2025
Date: June 2, 2025 12:29

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GasLightStreet
Mick sang flat on all of the HD songs live in 2024.

Bizarrely.

As in, he wasn't flat anywhere else.

In 2012-14 he rushed the words for Doom And Gloom.

So what's Mick's issue with singing new songs flat?

Overdoing it?

Maybe.


Are the songs in a key that doesn't work?

Unlikely.

Mick's range is nothing like Bono's and Stones songs don't wander too much regarding the keys.

Can't blame age since he sings everything else in key.

As long as the albums are good, as usual, that's what will be permanent. The shows - whatever; forgotten hours after except for YouTube and even that doesn't equate numbers wise.

Then look at history: 1975-76 he didn't exactly sing. Nor 1981-82. He's been much better since if not great. That was a long time ago, though, so whatever.

The Stones have spent more time in recording studios than any other band (I have zero to back that up except their discography). They've also played more live shows than any other band or artist (same).

So what.

They keep going.

They're not Frank Sinatra.

Singing in a studio in perfect conditions and with modern techniques like autotune is of course very different from performing live in your 80's. And Mick is still dancing and moving for about 2 hours. Obviously he sounds flat and rushed and skips words.

It's true what GLS says. He was flat on all of the new ones.To use Jagger's own expression, which I have totally appropriated btw, the songs are not "lived in" yet. Maybe he doesn't have little tricks worked out yet, shortcuts to deliver the song with less effort.



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Re: The Rolling Stones studio works 2025
Posted by: Big Al ()
Date: June 2, 2025 12:41

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Jalfstra
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GasLightStreet
Mick sang flat on all of the HD songs live in 2024.

Bizarrely.

As in, he wasn't flat anywhere else.

In 2012-14 he rushed the words for Doom And Gloom.

So what's Mick's issue with singing new songs flat?

Overdoing it?

Maybe.

Are the songs in a key that doesn't work?

Unlikely.

Mick's range is nothing like Bono's and Stones songs don't wander too much regarding the keys.

Can't blame age since he sings everything else in key.

As long as the albums are good, as usual, that's what will be permanent. The shows - whatever; forgotten hours after except for YouTube and even that doesn't equate numbers wise.

Then look at history: 1975-76 he didn't exactly sing. Nor 1981-82. He's been much better since if not great. That was a long time ago, though, so whatever.

The Stones have spent more time in recording studios than any other band (I have zero to back that up except their discography). They've also played more live shows than any other band or artist (same).

So what.

They keep going.

They're not Frank Sinatra.

Singing in a studio in perfect conditions and with modern techniques like autotune is of course very different from performing live in your 80's. And Mick is still dancing and moving for about 2 hours. Obviously he sounds flat and rushed and skips words.

Good post. Actually, he's been skipping and rushing his delivery for decades. He does a phenomenal job, despite noticeably slowing down. We don't know how much studio-trickery was applied to his vocals on Hackney Diamonds, though I suspect there's some.

Re: The Rolling Stones studio works 2025
Posted by: GerardHennessy ()
Date: June 2, 2025 14:22

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Everyone seems to have given upon anything new, exciting or creative emerging. Why? The band can go on for YEARS yet. Mick is just short of 82. Keith does not turn 82 until this Christmas. Ronnie is even younger. I can see no reason why they can't go on for at least another five years. Even longer. Certainly until 2030.

Do any of us seriously think that Mick will be unable to deliver his usual level of performance when he is 87? Or that Keith will have to remain seated when he is 86? Their demise has been endlessly forecasted and anticipated and awaited for the past thirty years. And it has not yet happened. And it will not happen for several years yet.

I actually think The Stones will continue until Mick turns 90. And not just as a performing entity either! I believe they will continue to record fresh material as well as releasing items from the archives. Archives that are stuffed to the brim with material going all the way back to the 60's.

We have much to remain excited about. Much to anticipate. Much to look forward to.

Chin up folks. The end is most certainly NOT nigh!

So much to unpack here. I can picture the tears falling down your cheeks as you typed this.

Yes, it's incredibly heartfelt; almost a lover letter to their continued longevity. However, I suspect it's somewhat tongue-in-cheek.


Yes there is a very small element of tongue-in-cheek in what I wrote but, truthfully, very little. My posting IS actually a love letter of sorts. And it comes from the heart. I have been a Stones fan since 1964, ever since I heard that amazing instrumental duel between Brian and Keith at the play-out of It's All Over now. I had never heard such swagger, such impertinence, such insouciance in my life up to that point. It sure did 'speak to me'.

Over the years I have gone through periods of disenchantment with The Stones. They have got many things wrong. Like all of us. They have gone through periods of staleness. They have faffed around regarding following up A Bigger Bang. They have phoned in some performances over the years. BUT BUT BUT...they always somehow pull everything together and manage to rise again. Although I did not rate Hackney Diamonds as high as many other fans I accept readily that it was a perfectly decent album. And for a bunch of grandfathers it was quite remarkable. And despite being written off repeatedly over the years - and yes by me too at times- they overcome bereavements, illnesses, criticism, mockery, and the tyranny of age to deliver two hour full-on stadium rock concerts. And draw huge crowds too. Oh yes and I DO like Blue & Lonesome

I take my hat off to them. By all logic they should be dead. Available only via recordings, video clips, and the fast-dimming memories of septuagenarians like me. But are they dead? Are they heck! They may even tour again. They will almost certainly release at least one more 'new' album. Okay, maybe they will not go on until 2030. But then I also said they would not make 2020. And that blew up in my face.

I'm never writing them off again. And now I don't put ANYTHING past them. Maybe they are no longer the greatest rock'n'roll band in the world, but they are most certainly alive and kicking.

For me they are now the most REMARKABLE rock'n'roll band in the world. Bar none!

Re: The Rolling Stones studio works 2025
Posted by: Big Al ()
Date: June 2, 2025 14:28

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Everyone seems to have given upon anything new, exciting or creative emerging. Why? The band can go on for YEARS yet. Mick is just short of 82. Keith does not turn 82 until this Christmas. Ronnie is even younger. I can see no reason why they can't go on for at least another five years. Even longer. Certainly until 2030.

Do any of us seriously think that Mick will be unable to deliver his usual level of performance when he is 87? Or that Keith will have to remain seated when he is 86? Their demise has been endlessly forecasted and anticipated and awaited for the past thirty years. And it has not yet happened. And it will not happen for several years yet.

I actually think The Stones will continue until Mick turns 90. And not just as a performing entity either! I believe they will continue to record fresh material as well as releasing items from the archives. Archives that are stuffed to the brim with material going all the way back to the 60's.

We have much to remain excited about. Much to anticipate. Much to look forward to.

Chin up folks. The end is most certainly NOT nigh!

So much to unpack here. I can picture the tears falling down your cheeks as you typed this.

Yes, it's incredibly heartfelt; almost a lover letter to their continued longevity. However, I suspect it's somewhat tongue-in-cheek.


Yes there is a very small element of tongue-in-cheek in what I wrote but, truthfully, very little. My posting IS actually a love letter of sorts. And it comes from the heart. I have been a Stones fan since 1964, ever since I heard that amazing instrumental duel between Brian and Keith at the play-out of It's All Over now. I had never heard such swagger, such impertinence, such insouciance in my life up to that point. It sure did 'speak to me'.

Over the years I have gone through periods of disenchantment with The Stones. They have got many things wrong. Like all of us. They have gone through periods of staleness. They have faffed around regarding following up A Bigger Bang. They have phoned in some performances over the years. BUT BUT BUT...they always somehow pull everything together and manage to rise again. Although I did not rate Hackney Diamonds as high as many other fans I accept readily that it was a perfectly decent album. And for a bunch of grandfathers it was quite remarkable. And despite being written off repeatedly over the years - and yes by me too at times- they overcome bereavements, illnesses, criticism, mockery, and the tyranny of age to deliver two hour full-on stadium rock concerts. And draw huge crowds too. Oh yes and I DO like Blue & Lonesome

I take my hat off to them. By all logic they should be dead. Available only via recordings, video clips, and the fast-dimming memories of septuagenarians like me. But are they dead? Are they heck! They may even tour again. They will almost certainly release at least one more 'new' album. Okay, maybe they will not go on until 2030. But then I also said they would not make 2020. And that blew up in my face.

I'm never writing them off again. And now I don't put ANYTHING past them. Maybe they are no longer the greatest rock'n'roll band in the world, but they are most certainly alive and kicking.

For me they are now the most REMARKABLE rock'n'roll band in the world. Bar none!

Post of the week thumbs up And it's only Monday!

Re: The Rolling Stones studio works 2025
Posted by: ProfessorWolf ()
Date: June 2, 2025 15:19

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Everyone seems to have given upon anything new, exciting or creative emerging. Why? The band can go on for YEARS yet. Mick is just short of 82. Keith does not turn 82 until this Christmas. Ronnie is even younger. I can see no reason why they can't go on for at least another five years. Even longer. Certainly until 2030.

Do any of us seriously think that Mick will be unable to deliver his usual level of performance when he is 87? Or that Keith will have to remain seated when he is 86? Their demise has been endlessly forecasted and anticipated and awaited for the past thirty years. And it has not yet happened. And it will not happen for several years yet.

I actually think The Stones will continue until Mick turns 90. And not just as a performing entity either! I believe they will continue to record fresh material as well as releasing items from the archives. Archives that are stuffed to the brim with material going all the way back to the 60's.

We have much to remain excited about. Much to anticipate. Much to look forward to.

Chin up folks. The end is most certainly NOT nigh!

So much to unpack here. I can picture the tears falling down your cheeks as you typed this.

Yes, it's incredibly heartfelt; almost a lover letter to their continued longevity. However, I suspect it's somewhat tongue-in-cheek.


Yes there is a very small element of tongue-in-cheek in what I wrote but, truthfully, very little. My posting IS actually a love letter of sorts. And it comes from the heart. I have been a Stones fan since 1964, ever since I heard that amazing instrumental duel between Brian and Keith at the play-out of It's All Over now. I had never heard such swagger, such impertinence, such insouciance in my life up to that point. It sure did 'speak to me'.

Over the years I have gone through periods of disenchantment with The Stones. They have got many things wrong. Like all of us. They have gone through periods of staleness. They have faffed around regarding following up A Bigger Bang. They have phoned in some performances over the years. BUT BUT BUT...they always somehow pull everything together and manage to rise again. Although I did not rate Hackney Diamonds as high as many other fans I accept readily that it was a perfectly decent album. And for a bunch of grandfathers it was quite remarkable. And despite being written off repeatedly over the years - and yes by me too at times- they overcome bereavements, illnesses, criticism, mockery, and the tyranny of age to deliver two hour full-on stadium rock concerts. And draw huge crowds too. Oh yes and I DO like Blue & Lonesome

I take my hat off to them. By all logic they should be dead. Available only via recordings, video clips, and the fast-dimming memories of septuagenarians like me. But are they dead? Are they heck! They may even tour again. They will almost certainly release at least one more 'new' album. Okay, maybe they will not go on until 2030. But then I also said they would not make 2020. And that blew up in my face.

I'm never writing them off again. And now I don't put ANYTHING past them. Maybe they are no longer the greatest rock'n'roll band in the world, but they are most certainly alive and kicking.

For me they are now the most REMARKABLE rock'n'roll band in the world. Bar none!

Post of the week thumbs up And it's only Monday!

agreed

sorry for misinterpiting your post

Re: The Rolling Stones studio works 2025
Posted by: GerardHennessy ()
Date: June 2, 2025 16:19

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Everyone seems to have given upon anything new, exciting or creative emerging. Why? The band can go on for YEARS yet. Mick is just short of 82. Keith does not turn 82 until this Christmas. Ronnie is even younger. I can see no reason why they can't go on for at least another five years. Even longer. Certainly until 2030.

Do any of us seriously think that Mick will be unable to deliver his usual level of performance when he is 87? Or that Keith will have to remain seated when he is 86? Their demise has been endlessly forecasted and anticipated and awaited for the past thirty years. And it has not yet happened. And it will not happen for several years yet.

I actually think The Stones will continue until Mick turns 90. And not just as a performing entity either! I believe they will continue to record fresh material as well as releasing items from the archives. Archives that are stuffed to the brim with material going all the way back to the 60's.

We have much to remain excited about. Much to anticipate. Much to look forward to.

Chin up folks. The end is most certainly NOT nigh!

So much to unpack here. I can picture the tears falling down your cheeks as you typed this.

Yes, it's incredibly heartfelt; almost a lover letter to their continued longevity. However, I suspect it's somewhat tongue-in-cheek.


Yes there is a very small element of tongue-in-cheek in what I wrote but, truthfully, very little. My posting IS actually a love letter of sorts. And it comes from the heart. I have been a Stones fan since 1964, ever since I heard that amazing instrumental duel between Brian and Keith at the play-out of It's All Over now. I had never heard such swagger, such impertinence, such insouciance in my life up to that point. It sure did 'speak to me'.

Over the years I have gone through periods of disenchantment with The Stones. They have got many things wrong. Like all of us. They have gone through periods of staleness. They have faffed around regarding following up A Bigger Bang. They have phoned in some performances over the years. BUT BUT BUT...they always somehow pull everything together and manage to rise again. Although I did not rate Hackney Diamonds as high as many other fans I accept readily that it was a perfectly decent album. And for a bunch of grandfathers it was quite remarkable. And despite being written off repeatedly over the years - and yes by me too at times- they overcome bereavements, illnesses, criticism, mockery, and the tyranny of age to deliver two hour full-on stadium rock concerts. And draw huge crowds too. Oh yes and I DO like Blue & Lonesome

I take my hat off to them. By all logic they should be dead. Available only via recordings, video clips, and the fast-dimming memories of septuagenarians like me. But are they dead? Are they heck! They may even tour again. They will almost certainly release at least one more 'new' album. Okay, maybe they will not go on until 2030. But then I also said they would not make 2020. And that blew up in my face.

I'm never writing them off again. And now I don't put ANYTHING past them. Maybe they are no longer the greatest rock'n'roll band in the world, but they are most certainly alive and kicking.

For me they are now the most REMARKABLE rock'n'roll band in the world. Bar none!

Post of the week thumbs up And it's only Monday!

agreed

sorry for misinterpiting your post

No apology necessary good sir! You are a Stones fan like myself. And you have also probably occasionally fallen out of love with them like I have. We are all on the same team here and I respect the passion, challenges and constructive criticisms of all. The great thing about IORR is we are keeping the Stones' flame alive, and kicking.

Now where's that NEXT album?

Re: The Rolling Stones studio works 2025
Posted by: treaclefingers ()
Date: June 2, 2025 19:57

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Everyone seems to have given upon anything new, exciting or creative emerging. Why? The band can go on for YEARS yet. Mick is just short of 82. Keith does not turn 82 until this Christmas. Ronnie is even younger. I can see no reason why they can't go on for at least another five years. Even longer. Certainly until 2030.

Do any of us seriously think that Mick will be unable to deliver his usual level of performance when he is 87? Or that Keith will have to remain seated when he is 86? Their demise has been endlessly forecasted and anticipated and awaited for the past thirty years. And it has not yet happened. And it will not happen for several years yet.

I actually think The Stones will continue until Mick turns 90. And not just as a performing entity either! I believe they will continue to record fresh material as well as releasing items from the archives. Archives that are stuffed to the brim with material going all the way back to the 60's.

We have much to remain excited about. Much to anticipate. Much to look forward to.

Chin up folks. The end is most certainly NOT nigh!

So much to unpack here. I can picture the tears falling down your cheeks as you typed this.

Yes, it's incredibly heartfelt; almost a lover letter to their continued longevity. However, I suspect it's somewhat tongue-in-cheek.


Yes there is a very small element of tongue-in-cheek in what I wrote but, truthfully, very little. My posting IS actually a love letter of sorts. And it comes from the heart. I have been a Stones fan since 1964, ever since I heard that amazing instrumental duel between Brian and Keith at the play-out of It's All Over now. I had never heard such swagger, such impertinence, such insouciance in my life up to that point. It sure did 'speak to me'.

Over the years I have gone through periods of disenchantment with The Stones. They have got many things wrong. Like all of us. They have gone through periods of staleness. They have faffed around regarding following up A Bigger Bang. They have phoned in some performances over the years. BUT BUT BUT...they always somehow pull everything together and manage to rise again. Although I did not rate Hackney Diamonds as high as many other fans I accept readily that it was a perfectly decent album. And for a bunch of grandfathers it was quite remarkable. And despite being written off repeatedly over the years - and yes by me too at times- they overcome bereavements, illnesses, criticism, mockery, and the tyranny of age to deliver two hour full-on stadium rock concerts. And draw huge crowds too. Oh yes and I DO like Blue & Lonesome

I take my hat off to them. By all logic they should be dead. Available only via recordings, video clips, and the fast-dimming memories of septuagenarians like me. But are they dead? Are they heck! They may even tour again. They will almost certainly release at least one more 'new' album. Okay, maybe they will not go on until 2030. But then I also said they would not make 2020. And that blew up in my face.

I'm never writing them off again. And now I don't put ANYTHING past them. Maybe they are no longer the greatest rock'n'roll band in the world, but they are most certainly alive and kicking.

For me they are now the most REMARKABLE rock'n'roll band in the world. Bar none!

Post of the week thumbs up And it's only Monday!

agreed

sorry for misinterpiting your post

No apology necessary good sir! You are a Stones fan like myself. And you have also probably occasionally fallen out of love with them like I have. We are all on the same team here and I respect the passion, challenges and constructive criticisms of all. The great thing about IORR is we are keeping the Stones' flame alive, and kicking.

Now where's that NEXT album?

Love the positive energy and resolution of differences. I think timing-wise, around the same time in the year as HD, to coincide with Christmas. I would suppose you're looking at a Spring Euro tour in that case.

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