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Talking of cringy, if this new album is what we are led to believe, an album of Hackney Diamonds leftovers, that takes cringe to a whole new level.

What a way to end such an incredible career of creative genius together.

You are really something else. What kind of "fan" cringes at the idea of new music from their favorite band? Tattoo You was a bunch of leftovers - did you hate that one too?

I’ve always enjoyed (most) of their covers.. Personally would love to see them toss another one on a new release

I'm really really excited for the new album! So lucky to be a fan of such a band, still recording in their 80s, and having done an album just 2 years ago, now we are getting another one. If someone would have told me this in 2019 when they were in and out of the studio for 4 years already but we never heard more than snippets, I'd have been like no way!

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Talking of cringy, if this new album is what we are led to believe, an album of Hackney Diamonds leftovers, that takes cringe to a whole new level.

What a way to end such an incredible career of creative genius together.

You are really something else. What kind of "fan" cringes at the idea of new music from their favorite band? Tattoo You was a bunch of leftovers - did you hate that one too?

Tattoo You was a bunch of leftovers from brilliant albums produced by a brilliant producer.

This is garbage leftovers.

Just a longshot: The last time Mick left everything to Keith was "Dirty Work". On that one Jagger only came in to do his singing bits. Now it seems to be the other way around:
Everything is left to Jagger, Richards only comes in to do his guitar fills. Sorry, just a quick thought. I'm wrong of course...

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Just a longshot: The last time Mick left everything to Keith was "Dirty Work". On that one Jagger only came in to do his singing bits. Now it seems to be the other way around:
Everything is left to Jagger, Richards only comes in to do his guitar fills. Sorry, just a quick thought. I'm wrong of course...

I would agree with that, last time Mick and Keith collaborated together more was on Voodoo Lounge, a great album in my opinion, i don't think the results are as good when Mick and Keith arrive in the studio with their own stuff almost finished.

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Tattoo You was a bunch of leftovers from brilliant albums produced by a brilliant producer.

This is garbage leftovers.

You think "Hackney Diamonds" is really garbage? That's hard for me to believe. I was just rereading the album thread, and you said there that you loved the first two singles.

"I love the two new singles though and I'm proud of them and they blew me away..."

If Hackney Diamonds has two songs that you love on it, how could you consider it garbage? What changed between then and now?

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Tattoo You was a bunch of leftovers from brilliant albums produced by a brilliant producer.

This is garbage leftovers.

You think "Hackney Diamonds" is really garbage? That's hard for me to believe. I was just rereading the album thread, and you said there that you loved the first two singles.

"I love the two new singles though and I'm proud of them and they blew me away..."

If Hackney Diamonds has two songs that you love on it, how could you consider it garbage? What changed between then and now?

If the new album is leftovers it's not going to be as good as HD yeah ?

Over time I've become irritated with the pop chorus of Angry, i got further disappointed by the way it came over live.

As I've said i don't like the production of HD and I've explained recently that Mick's vocals are too high in the mix and went at great detail on page 114 of the HD album thread why less is more with Mick vocally.

I hope I'm wrong, Keith might get more involved this time and the new album won't sound like a Jagger solo album.

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Just a longshot: The last time Mick left everything to Keith was "Dirty Work". On that one Jagger only came in to do his singing bits. Now it seems to be the other way around:
Everything is left to Jagger, Richards only comes in to do his guitar fills. Sorry, just a quick thought. I'm wrong of course...

I think just about everything of this is wrong, including Dirty Work.

There are lots of recordings where we can hear them try out stuff together for Dirty Work.

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Just a longshot: The last time Mick left everything to Keith was "Dirty Work". On that one Jagger only came in to do his singing bits. Now it seems to be the other way around:
Everything is left to Jagger, Richards only comes in to do his guitar fills. Sorry, just a quick thought. I'm wrong of course...

I think just about everything of this is wrong, including Dirty Work.

There are lots of recordings where we can hear them try out stuff together for Dirty Work.

I did say I was wrong, so...

There is a difference between unfinished and left over.

None of us know. Maybe they started songs and decided they did not fit into the album and left them as unfinished.

To me leftovers are finished songs they decided not to use on the album. Maybe they have great stuff they intentionally saved for the next album.

Many of their albums from the golden years had songs they started in one session and finished years later.

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There is a difference between unfinished and left over.

None of us know. Maybe they started songs and decided they did not fit into the album and left them as unfinished.

To me leftovers are finished songs they decided not to use on the album. Maybe they have great stuff they intentionally saved for the next album.

Many of their albums from the golden years had songs they started in one session and finished years later.

Start Me Up comes to mind...

Man I get the criticism of Hackney Diamonds. The production is more polished and the songwriting poppier than I like from our guys. But really, when I just enjoy it for what it is, I can't help but see it as a remarkable achievement for a band of 80/70 year olds that's been going for 60 years.

I'll gladly take anything they still have to give us.

I glad to see another album its very weird to see even 90 band getting old
The a1 music on you tube is hard to get my head around..please mick open the vaults

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Bernard just left London after doing his part in the studio.

interesting thanks for sharing

I’m certain their new lp they’re working on now will be good. Maybe their last studio release who knows.

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I’m certain their new lp they’re working on now will be good. Maybe their last studio release who knows.

Am I the only one who doesn’t particularly wonder about whether it’ll be ‘the last’, or whether it’ll be ‘any good’?

I’m merely happy about the fact that they’re working on a new album. The Stones’ back catalogue is sprawling, and my ‘favourites’ will forever be cemented; they’ll always be there.

I already know that the ‘new’ album will get a few spins, before I go back to my favourites: Beggars Banquet; Let it Bleed; Sticky Fingers, and Exile on Main Street.

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If the new album is leftovers it's not going to be as good as HD yeah ?

thing is it isn't entirely clear if these are leftovers as in not good enough for hackney diamonds

or tracks that simply didn't fit hackney diamonds and the general feel and sound they were going for with that album

i think the latter is more likely then the former due to mick's comment about these tracks being something different from what we've heard from the rolling stones before

i take that to mean that this new album maybe something very different from previous albums

now that could mean a doubling down on the things that you and others dislike about hackney diamonds or it could mean something more interesting and novel

for what it's worth i share your desire for more (for lack of a better word) "keithiness" on the new album

all we know about the leftover music is mick's comments and a few short snippets and only two of those come from presumably after they started working with andrew watt

the one recently shared of mick singing in a studio without any audible music and the other is the snippet from the harmonica ad that mick did in 2023 and that one sounds like a cool gritty blues number

with lots of what i'd call "keithiness" to it

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There is a difference between unfinished and left over.

None of us know. Maybe they started songs and decided they did not fit into the album and left them as unfinished.

To me leftovers are finished songs they decided not to use on the album. Maybe they have great stuff they intentionally saved for the next album.

Many of their albums from the golden years had songs they started in one session and finished years later.

Start Me Up comes to mind...

From 1968 through 1983 every album involved leftover tracks, one in totality and one with a lot (EXILE) except IORR, and possibly even SOME GIRLS, if you believe that they started on Start Me Up in 1975.

They have made some odd choices in regard to what they've left off but their mindset at the time is what was important, not the quality of the songwriting.

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There is a difference between unfinished and left over.

None of us know. Maybe they started songs and decided they did not fit into the album and left them as unfinished.

To me leftovers are finished songs they decided not to use on the album. Maybe they have great stuff they intentionally saved for the next album.

Many of their albums from the golden years had songs they started in one session and finished years later.

Start Me Up comes to mind...

From 1968 through 1983 every album involved leftover tracks, one in totality and one with a lot (EXILE) except IORR, and possibly even SOME GIRLS, if you believe that they started on Start Me Up in 1975.

They have made some odd choices in regard to what they've left off but their mindset at the time is what was important, not the quality of the songwriting.

Exactly. What they are excellent at is songwriting. What they are less good at, is picking which songs are the good songs.

Mick and Keith didn't think Satisfaction should be released as a single. That one example should say everything.

Why would anyone complain about a new album they haven’t heard.
I’m happy with the news they’re back in the studio and we have a possible new release this year. Hackney Diamonds had a few really nice surprises on there and I’ll hope to be surprised again. They’re the band we’re the fans.

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Why would anyone complain about a new album they haven’t heard.
I’m happy with the news they’re back in the studio and we have a possible new release this year. Hackney Diamonds had a few really nice surprises on there and I’ll hope to be surprised again. They’re the band we’re the fans.

I agree with you but unfortunately, like someone very wise once said, opinions are like *ssholes...or something.

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Why would anyone complain about a new album they haven’t heard.

Because:

It's not in the top 10 streaming of Shitify

It's not on SIRUIS/XM

It sounds a lot like Angry

It sounds a lot like Start Me Up

It sounds like - oops - it sounds as zero people know

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The Stones have been recording in Metropolis for a month now, first Mick with Andrew Watt starting April 22/23, Keith a week later, and the rest joined between the 4th and 8th of this month.

Andrew has barely posted on his Instagram for a month, so he must be working very hard on the album since he knows it's difficult to get everyone together at the same time and he has to make the most of his time.

And if there are no press photos, it's logical. Unfortunately, the Stones recording in the studio won't be news to anyone in 2025. There's no press guard at the studio like with Taylor Swift does every time she records in New York or Los Angeles.

Wonderful news...I didn't realize it had been that long already. Without inside info, do you think that if they actually finished recording let's say in the next couple of weeks, you could have a Fall release, or is that pushing it?

Late fall yes, last week of November or early December is the best case scenario from a marketing or sales point of view, but if they want to release the album just in time for a posible European tour around this time but in 2026, that's another option too.

The good thing about this is that a new album will be released in the next 12 months maximun, that's someting great to look foward.

Indeed! Thanks George.

Yeah, thanks indeed George for the wonderful news.

Pretty strange times... Still HACKNEY DIAMONDS feeling fresh, just like released recently, and now there is new album to look forward to. A reality check: We lived very different times for years and years... First the idea of them recording another album sounded unreal, and when they finally started doing it, oh man, it took ages...

Creativity truely is a bitch. It is not from eight to four work. You really can't force the muse, now do you? But when she hits you, you better obey her. I am pretty sure that the Stones wouldn't be in the studio making a new album if that wouldn't be the case. No one is really forcing them to do that. Except the muse.

Beautiful!

- Doxa

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Why would anyone complain about a new album they haven’t heard.
I’m happy with the news they’re back in the studio and we have a possible new release this year. Hackney Diamonds had a few really nice surprises on there and I’ll hope to be surprised again. They’re the band we’re the fans.

Complaining about a new album is like complaining about the set lists in regard to the band founded in 1962 - it is luxury! Especially if one is now more or less a senior citizen or soon getting there and has followed this band since a kid - for ages, that is. That anyone really does that seriously, that's a sign that this band really is something special. That a certain quality is expected and not just waving a nostalgia flag no matter the grandgrandpapas having passed the retirement age one generation ago. No free passes allowed!

But what this band does by continuing forever without taking any hostages is that I am afraid I will never be in the position to judge their whole career and tell a good story about it, with its ups and downs. No, I just keep on following it and just wondering what happens next. All ears here. Every prediction I have made - I started doing it since the early 80's - has turned out to be false...

- Doxa



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Every Rolling Stones album has at least 3/4 songs that I really like, so i'm always looking forward to a new album. Even if it more like Dirty Work than Sticky Fingers.

Leftover is a derogatory term in my opinion. Maybe they just don't wanted two bluessongs or two country tunes on Hackney Diamonds, so they left the other ones on the shelf.

Also, it's been 27 months since Hackney Diamonds was finished. I can't imagine they haven't written any new songs in the meantime.

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Every Rolling Stones album has at least 3/4 songs that I really like, so i'm always looking forward to a new album. Even if it more like Dirty Work than Sticky Fingers.

Leftover is a derogatory term in my opinion. Maybe they just don't wanted two bluessongs or two country tunes on Hackney Diamonds, so they left the other ones on the shelf.

Also, it's been 27 months since Hackney Diamonds was finished. I can't imagine they haven't written any new songs in the meantime.

or there something so out there and different that they couldn't figure out how to make it work with the other songs on hd

that's what i'm hoping for one more significant stylistic change from this band (like tsmr or beggars or some girls or undercover was)

as much as i like hackney diamonds and as much as i acknowledge that it has it's own sound

it's also not in my view a significant departure from the kinda music they made 40 years ago it just has a more modern sounding production

i'd like to hear them take a chance and experiment with new types of music and sounds

i want something that will shock, surprise and challenge me as a listener and fan

something very different but still distinctly stonsey

maybe i'm asking to much of them at this point in time and i'll like it even if it's something more familiar but mick's comment about the leftovers being different has allowed me to hope that they'll really suprise and challenge us one more time

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Every Rolling Stones album has at least 3/4 songs that I really like, so i'm always looking forward to a new album. Even if it more like Dirty Work than Sticky Fingers.

Leftover is a derogatory term in my opinion. Maybe they just don't wanted two bluessongs or two country tunes on Hackney Diamonds, so they left the other ones on the shelf.

Also, it's been 27 months since Hackney Diamonds was finished. I can't imagine they haven't written any new songs in the meantime.

or there something so out there and different that they couldn't figure out how to make it work with the other songs on hd

that's what i'm hoping for one more significant stylistic change from this band (like tsmr or beggars or some girls or undercover was)

as much as i like hackney diamonds and as much as i acknowledge that it has it's own sound

it's also not in my view a significant departure from the kinda music they made 40 years ago it just has a more modern sounding production

i'd like to hear them take a chance and experiment with new types of music and sounds

i want something that will shock, surprise and challenge me as a listener and fan

something very different but still distinctly stonsey

maybe i'm asking to much of them at this point in time and i'll like it even if it's something more familiar but mick's comment about the leftovers being different has allowed me to hope that they'll really suprise and challenge us one more time

While I don't disagree with anything you've said here, or don't also wish the same as you, isn't it interesting to step back and take a look at what that actually means.

That we as fans and our expectations are still so high, given how much time has passed and their advanced age.

Were there any Sinatra fans...ANY...that were demanding his new material "surprise and challenge" them as listeners? It's laughable. I recall the couple of duets albums that came out at the end of the 90s and it was like a revelation in the music world. "DUETS...so cool". Stones put out a live album with a few duets and are derided.

And here we are, with Mick and Keith the same age as Sinatra when he passed, 82, and they're STILL putting out new albums, with new material and still perpetually on tour...fascinating.

Yet collectively we as fans cannot get enough...no satisfaction.

If it's half as good as HD, it'll still be awesome

May be they work on Exile II … Hackney Diamonds is great, even better live, but with an extra effort, the next one could be even greater.

Bjornulf