Anything the boys put out I will enjoy. Looking forward to next release and tour.

I think it is primordial to have one's own opinion about the Stones' music but I do enjoy reading or listening to well tought criticism of their works that contradicts my views. If the criticism is not just stupid agression I listen/read by curiosity. Eventually good criticism could slightly affect my views.

Honestly, I hope for a colab with a modern artist to get our boys back on the radar. But that is just dreams. I am just so glad that we are here in 2025 and new material seems to be on its way. Amazing.

If the next album is as good as Hackney Diamonds, I’ll be more than happy! I’m mainly hoping for new live shows.

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I am just so glad that we are here in 2025 and new material seems to be on its way. Amazing.

Could not agree more. Life as a Stones fan could be so easy if people don't overload their thoughts with unrealistic expectations that if only the band would follow their good advices, it could be 1972 all over again.

Or, like RG put it above: "If the next album is as good as Hackney Diamonds, I’ll be more than happy!"

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Honestly, I hope for a colab with a modern artist to get our boys back on the radar. But that is just dreams. I am just so glad that we are here in 2025 and new material seems to be on its way. Amazing.

Maybe their best work came about when they were listening to artists who at that time were not just "modern" but also (slightly) controversial, underground or different.
Their approach to the blues was new when they started, at least in the UK and Europa. And in the US music was segregated.
Mid-60s - early 70s they listened to Velvet Underground and Jimi Hendrix. Later on, reggae (before it got big).
Late 70's - early 80's, they got a little boost from disco and punk.

I have no idea if there's any "different" underground music around nowadays, so I am not sure where one could pick up inspiration.
Another option is to become introspective and "mature", like the later albums from Leonard Cohen or Johnny Cash, but I don't see that happening with the Stones.

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Honestly, I hope for a colab with a modern artist to get our boys back on the radar. But that is just dreams. I am just so glad that we are here in 2025 and new material seems to be on its way. Amazing.

Well Purple Disco Machine is a pretty popular DJ in Europe

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Honestly, I hope for a colab with a modern artist to get our boys back on the radar. But that is just dreams. I am just so glad that we are here in 2025 and new material seems to be on its way. Amazing.

Well Purple Disco Machine is a pretty popular DJ in Europe

We are back to speaking about HD again. And as you know, I think that MIU could have done it even on the charts. But it was a third lackluster release. A great tune still and a bit out of the comfort zone. My kids learned it and liked it after one listen! Lets see what the new album brings!

quite amazing they never released WWW as a single. IMO better than Angry and one of the strongest tracks on the album.

It is known if there will be the same formats as Hackney Diamonds.

We are SO fortunate.
I can't wait for a new album!

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We are SO fortunate.
I can't wait for a new album!

I recall 2012 having this feeling, and thinking at the time we were in "bonus territory" when it comes to what we might still "expect" from this ensemble.

13 years later, speculating on a new album and tour for the following year, they are certainly not gathering any moss. What an aptly named group.

Hopefully the new LP release will be closer to or associated with the supposed upcoming tour. HD's third single was the same day the LP came out!!! Absolutely zero happened with the tour.

That's an astounding drop for UMG - the 18 month plan lasted 3 months - then a 6 month gap between the 3 months and the tour.

Hopefully UMG isn't all talk this time.

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It is known if there will be the same formats as Hackney Diamonds.

I hope for a similar CD/Br Atmos release however with an additional DVD docu of the the recordings of both HD and the new one (and maybe some 2024 live stuff along with it)

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It is known if there will be the same formats as Hackney Diamonds.

I hope for a similar CD/Br Atmos release however with an additional DVD docu of the the recordings of both HD and the new one (and maybe some 2024 live stuff along with it) -D

Yeah, I'd definitely enjoy a live release; and please, please, please, no unnecessary overdubbing or editing, ala 'The Racket Show' It doesn't always have to be 'pretty'!

@Georgelicks
Is the mixing finished?
Is Ronnie involved in it or only Mick and Andrew Watt?
What is the favourite period according to Umg for a release:end of November or next year in the Spring supporter by a possibile Tour?

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@Georgelicks
Is the mixing finished?
Is Ronnie involved in it or only Mick and Andrew Watt?
What is the favourite period according to Umg for a release:end of November or next year in the Spring supporter by a possibile Tour?

The album is still being mixed, that's the last update from 5-6 days ago, mostly Andrew Watt and his team with Mick in/out all the time, both Ronnie and Keith already did their parts and the release date is still unsure, from a comercial view the best option is late November or early December to cash in with the Christmas season but if they want to hold it for a posible tour in the spring 2026, that's another option too.

The commercial view of "Christmas" thing has been over for eons.

Hype for a release is hype for a release. What month it is is laughable. However, in regard to what people are doing, streaming wise, April is probably the best month in terms of movement: second month of spring and life is on the up and it rolls over into summer.

Christmas?

By mid January nobody remembers. X amount of people bought whatever. And?

Sales are essentially over. So is streaming.

UMG spends x millions on promotion, vinyl and CD sales are, say, 25% of that... UMG can absorb that lack because of their huge swath of artists. At some point they'll look at THE VAULT releases and figure out - the math doesn't add up. So more 1960s Stones songs will be featured in Super Bowl etc commercials and $$$ from licensing is always better.

The good ol' ABKCO thing rears its head again. Mick and Keith have zero say. UMG makes $$$, Mick and Keith make some $ and everyone's happy for 3 months. Then some football thing in the UK... that could go on for a few years. People may tire of it but as long as someone is willing to pay for She's A Rainbow again... or the biggest mattress company in Europe pays for Let's Spend The Night Together... that makes a lot of $en$e.

Sorry, no Euro sign available culturally that fits phonetically as far as I am aware.

Hopefully they (UMG) will wait until a tour is lined up and a release is just prior, a single three weeks out, with another ridiculous video, then the album one week out, before the tour, and then some creative aspects of single releases during the tour.

UMG ignored the past, release wise, with HACKNEY DIAMONDS. In terms of exposure, what happened in the past worked. They should spend x $$$ on remixes to release them while the Stones are on tour.

Nope. Just one on the day the album was released and zero right before and during the tour. Their 18 month plan fell like a tree within 3 months.

It's so simple yet in 2023-24 UMG made it beyond ridiculous: they FAILED.

This is extremely likely The Rolling Stones last album. UMG needs to make that known and work it.

I do totally believe UMGs marketing people who probably receive millions of dollars to do research on buying behaviors both in the past and recent times and I think that if they conclude that Christmas is the best release time, it's based on numbers and facts. This leads me to the thought that a release postponement until a possible spring 26 tour would be a risk as they are well aware there's a chance the tour plans fall apart as it happened this year.

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The commercial view of "Christmas" thing has been over for eons.

Hype for a release is hype for a release. What month it is is laughable. However, in regard to what people are doing, streaming wise, April is probably the best month in terms of movement: second month of spring and life is on the up and it rolls over into summer.

Christmas?

By mid January nobody remembers. X amount of people bought whatever. And?

Sales are essentially over. So is streaming.

UMG spends x millions on promotion, vinyl and CD sales are, say, 25% of that... UMG can absorb that lack because of their huge swath of artists. At some point they'll look at THE VAULT releases and figure out - the math doesn't add up. So more 1960s Stones songs will be featured in Super Bowl etc commercials and $$$ from licensing is always better.

The good ol' ABKCO thing rears its head again. Mick and Keith have zero say. UMG makes $$$, Mick and Keith make some $ and everyone's happy for 3 months. Then some football thing in the UK... that could go on for a few years. People may tire of it but as long as someone is willing to pay for She's A Rainbow again... or the biggest mattress company in Europe pays for Let's Spend The Night Together... that makes a lot of $en$e.

Sorry, no Euro sign available culturally that fits phonetically as far as I am aware.

Hopefully they (UMG) will wait until a tour is lined up and a release is just prior, a single three weeks out, with another ridiculous video, then the album one week out, before the tour, and then some creative aspects of single releases during the tour.

UMG ignored the past, release wise, with HACKNEY DIAMONDS. In terms of exposure, what happened in the past worked. They should spend x $$$ on remixes to release them while the Stones are on tour.

Nope. Just one on the day the album was released and zero right before and during the tour. Their 18 month plan fell like a tree within 3 months.

It's so simple yet in 2023-24 UMG made it beyond ridiculous: they FAILED.

This is extremely likely The Rolling Stones last album. UMG needs to make that known and work it.

A Christmas release is definitely the best option from their point of view. Just think of all the kids and grandkids looking to buy something quick and easy for Dad/Granddad. "The new Stones album? Yeah, that'll do". It's easily the best way for them to sell bucketloads more copies.

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This is extremely likely The Rolling Stones last album.

your probably right but i was pretty sure hackney diamonds was there last album

which was a reasonable guess after the nearly two decade wait for it and there ages

then they shocked me by saying there was another one on the way

we'll see what they reveal in the promotion for this album

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This is extremely likely The Rolling Stones last album.

your probably right but i was pretty sure hackney diamonds was there last album

which was a reasonable guess after the nearly two decade wait for it and there ages

then they shocked me by saying there was another one on the way

we'll see what they reveal in the promotion for this album

While this is probably the last album, I don't think we'd be shocked to learn they have enought for a 3rd 2020's release.

It seems as though they recorded new material since Hackney, and at that time Mick said they were 3/4's finished the next album. I think it's entirely possible that while they slow down the tours they start churning out material instead. You see Mick popping up here and there, guesting on other people's music...clearly the enthusiasm to stay relevant is still there, and why not?

It ain't over until the skinny guy stops singing.

They have recorded 40 to 80 songs, depending on who you want to believe, from 2015-2019. They started Driving Me Too Hard in 2015.

There's a ton of material with Charlie which means certainly there could be more new albums released between 2025 and 2030. However since they recorded new versions of some 2015 songs with Steve Jordan for HD it's unlikely they'll release an album from the 2015-2019 sessions.

Not everything can be like TATTOO YOU.

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This is extremely likely The Rolling Stones last album.

your probably right but i was pretty sure hackney diamonds was there last album

which was a reasonable guess after the nearly two decade wait for it and there ages

then they shocked me by saying there was another one on the way

we'll see what they reveal in the promotion for this album

While this is probably the last album, I don't think we'd be shocked to learn they have enought for a 3rd 2020's release.

It seems as though they recorded new material since Hackney, and at that time Mick said they were 3/4's finished the next album. I think it's entirely possible that while they slow down the tours they start churning out material instead. You see Mick popping up here and there, guesting on other people's music...clearly the enthusiasm to stay relevant is still there, and why not?

It ain't over until the skinny guy stops singing.

my thoughts exactly

if the rumour of the new album being made up mostly of tracks record this year turns out to be true and it isn't just them re-recording or recycling material from the hd sessions then that lends even more creedence to the notion that there not done and this may not be the last album

still unlikely but far from impossible

it's got to be easier for them to record a new album every year or two then try to play stadiums tours into there mid to late 80's

it could be a viable way to continue the band going forward if they wish to continue it (and they've never given us a sign they wanna stop)

of course the money isn't anything like touring and they know that and have done this album anyways so clearly that's not what's motivating them to continue recording new music

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They have recorded 40 to 80 songs, depending on who you want to believe, from 2015-2019. They started Driving Me Too Hard in 2015.

There's a ton of material with Charlie which means certainly there could be more new albums released between 2025 and 2030. However since they recorded new versions of some 2015 songs with Steve Jordan for HD it's unlikely they'll release an album from the 2015-2019 sessions.

Not everything can be like TATTOO YOU.

no but there was a rumour a year or two ago about mick working on a compilation (or something) of outtakes from the last 30 or so years

and those 2015-19 sessions might be a good source of material for that project

presuming mick is still interested in finishing it at some point in the future

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They have recorded 40 to 80 songs, depending on who you want to believe, from 2015-2019. They started Driving Me Too Hard in 2015.

There's a ton of material with Charlie which means certainly there could be more new albums released between 2025 and 2030. However since they recorded new versions of some 2015 songs with Steve Jordan for HD it's unlikely they'll release an album from the 2015-2019 sessions.

Not everything can be like TATTOO YOU.

no but there was a rumour a year or two ago about mick working on a compilation (or something) of outtakes from the last 30 or so years

and those 2015-19 sessions might be a good source of material for that project

presuming mick is still interested in finishing it at some point in the future

Or simply some kind of Vaults release.

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They have recorded 40 to 80 songs, depending on who you want to believe, from 2015-2019. They started Driving Me Too Hard in 2015.

There's a ton of material with Charlie which means certainly there could be more new albums released between 2025 and 2030. However since they recorded new versions of some 2015 songs with Steve Jordan for HD it's unlikely they'll release an album from the 2015-2019 sessions.

Not everything can be like TATTOO YOU.

no but there was a rumour a year or two ago about mick working on a compilation (or something) of outtakes from the last 30 or so years

and those 2015-19 sessions might be a good source of material for that project

presuming mick is still interested in finishing it at some point in the future

Or simply some kind of Vaults release.

I'm guessing that was the large collection of songs that ended up unofficially released.

In an interview with the Dutch newspaper De Telegraaf (interview by Jean-Paul Heck, published 23 September 2024) Bill Wyman says he recorded 1 new song with the Stones.

Excerpt from the interview:
He looks at his watch. "I have to go because I have a signing session. Oh yeah, I'm working on two new books and a new solo album. And another first: I recorded a song for a new Rolling Stones album..."

Perhaps what Bill means is that he recorded live and it's not another overdub on a Charlie track.

Depends on when (what year) the interview was done. Bill's solo album (Drive My Car) was released in August 2024, that is, ~one and a half months before the interview was published. So, if the interview was done one year before that, say, middle of 2023, he was in fact still working on Drive My Car, and HD with his track on it was not yet released. (Not sure when his latest books came out, the Chelsea book was published in Oct 2023?)

Other option (if the interview was in 2024): Bill is already working on yet another solo album, and played bass on yet another Stones track after HD, and is preparing yet more books. I wouldn't totally rule that out, he's a prolific guy despite his age.