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Does anybody know anything? Is the mixing and mastering complete?
I hope we get some official news soon. Unofficial news and the status of the album would be great for now.

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WelshEdge1

I guess if the album is out this year, tour dates will also be announced around the same time like last time?

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felipe1993

Is it possible that the World Cup could interfere with the album/European tour schedule?

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I wonder if Mick will be reminded of that "next album is 75% (or 2/3 based on the interview) finished" comments from the HD promo...""old" stuff is not very exciting to the masses in general and to Mick it's probably "shock/horror" ! If they include that second Macca track Ronnie talked about at the time there will be no denying it and of course for any tracks with Charlie either.
Wonder what kind of story their marketing advisers will try to spin to try to make it exciting.

At this point, and well earlier, people know TATTOO YOU was made up of 100% leftovers. Mick had zero care about it.

As well as all previous albums except SOME GIRLS and BLACK AND BLUE.

They do whatever for albums. The tours are what it's really about.

I don't think an 44 old years album is really that good comparison here. TATTOO YOU was made because there was a tour coming and they needed a new album to go with it (= money), with no much hassle and effort. That it turned out to be a masterpiece is a result of lucky accidents.

But at the moment Mick - after neglecting it for ages - seems to be into making albums just to sake of their own, and even just for the arts sake (since no actual money or contract obligations there).

So yeah, I echo gotdablouse's feeling that probably he is not that into using 'old' tracks. But I think if that is the case it is because he has some fresh ones to use instead. It's pretty natural: if the muse is calling, you better listen to her. That seems to drive Mick - and with that the Stones - these days (in that case, too bad for the material worth of 2/3 album from HACKNEY DIAMONDS sessions)

This is related to the sort of message the new album wants to offer. Do they still want to somehow still stick to the Charlie days or do they just want to present the Stones as they are now, in 2025. The first option would be like HACKNEY DIAMONDS VOL. 2 with most tracks deriving from the HACKNEY DIAMONDS sessions (incl. another Macca and Bill contribution etc.) and even from Charlie days. The second is that they want to make a sharp distinction with the past and want to show the recent three member, post-Charlie-version of the Stones in their full glory. So most of the material will be new, recently recorded. I think we all have assumed it will be the former option, but somehow my feeling is that it could the latter instead. Depends on Mick's muse.

- Doxa

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felipe1993

Is it possible that the World Cup could interfere with the album/European tour schedule?

Do you mean the 2026 FIFA World Cup (men's soccer championship)? It's in the United States / Canada / Mexico - but not in Europe.

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I wonder if Mick will be reminded of that "next album is 75% (or 2/3 based on the interview) finished" comments from the HD promo...""old" stuff is not very exciting to the masses in general and to Mick it's probably "shock/horror" ! If they include that second Macca track Ronnie talked about at the time there will be no denying it and of course for any tracks with Charlie either.
Wonder what kind of story their marketing advisers will try to spin to try to make it exciting.

At this point, and well earlier, people know TATTOO YOU was made up of 100% leftovers. Mick had zero care about it.

As well as all previous albums except SOME GIRLS and BLACK AND BLUE.

They do whatever for albums. The tours are what it's really about.

I don't think an 44 old years album is really that good comparison here. TATTOO YOU was made because there was a tour coming and they needed a new album to go with it (= money), with no much hassle and effort. That it turned out to be a masterpiece is a result of lucky accidents.

But at the moment Mick - after neglecting it for ages - seems to be into making albums just to sake of their own, and even just for the arts sake (since no actual money or contract obligations there).

So yeah, I echo gotdablouse's feeling that probably he is not that into using 'old' tracks. But I think if that is the case it is because he has some fresh ones to use instead. It's pretty natural: if the muse is calling, you better listen to her. That seems to drive Mick - and with that the Stones - these days (in that case, too bad for the material worth of 2/3 album from HACKNEY DIAMONDS sessions)

This is related to the sort of message the new album wants to offer. Do they still want to somehow still stick to the Charlie days or do they just want to present the Stones as they are now, in 2025. The first option would be like HACKNEY DIAMONDS VOL. 2 with most tracks deriving from the HACKNEY DIAMONDS sessions (incl. another Macca and Bill contribution etc.) and even from Charlie days. The second is that they want to make a sharp distinction with the past and want to show the recent three member, post-Charlie-version of the Stones in their full glory. So most of the material will be new, recently recorded. I think we all have assumed it will be the former option, but somehow my feeling is that it could the latter instead. Depends on Mick's muse.

- Doxa

I was thinking about that again the other day and I think Mick would rather promote the new album with something like "Yes we'd nearly finished a second album in 2023 but we got all these great ideas since so pretty much started from scratch" ;-)

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The thing with albums these days is that it seems to be 80 percent Mick and 20 percent Keith. Jagger is the driving force behind it. One can think that is a good thing or not so good thing.
I would have preferred them writing songs together - more like 50/50. But you can't always get what you want...

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gotdablouse
Just asked the same question in the B&B 2025 thread...Probably means 2026 for the new album which would make sense with a tour coming on the heels of the release, unlike what they did for HD.

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gotdablouse
Just asked the same question in the B&B 2025 thread...Probably means 2026 for the new album which would make sense with a tour coming on the heels of the release, unlike what they did for HD.

with BaB to be released in November there's obviously no time slot left to release a new album in 2025.

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Just asked the same question in the B&B 2025 thread...Probably means 2026 for the new album which would make sense with a tour coming on the heels of the release, unlike what they did for HD.

with BaB to be released in November there's obviously no time slot left to release a new album in 2025.

It might very well be a spring release for the new album but the Black and Blue Deluxe certainly won't delay any possible new album. They often released Deluxe/vault stuff within a few weeks. there's No competition between the new album and a Deluxe release.

Examples:

Hampton 81 and LA 75 (both November 2014)
Sticky Fingers Deluxe and Marquee (both June 2015)
Tokio 90 Leeds 82 (November 2015)
Atlantic City and Goats Head Soup Deluxe (September 2020)
El Mocambo (May 2022) and Licked Live in NYC (June 2022)

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gotdablouse
Just asked the same question in the B&B 2025 thread...Probably means 2026 for the new album which would make sense with a tour coming on the heels of the release, unlike what they did for HD.

with BaB to be released in November there's obviously no time slot left to release a new album in 2025.

It might very well be a spring release for the new album but the Black and Blue Deluxe certainly won't delay any possible new album. They often released Deluxe/vault stuff within a few weeks. there's No competition between the new album and a Deluxe release.

Examples:

Hampton 81 and LA 75 (both November 2014)
Sticky Fingers Deluxe and Marquee (both June 2015)
Tokio 90 Leeds 82 (November 2015)
Atlantic City and Goats Head Soup Deluxe (September 2020)
El Mocambo (May 2022) and Licked Live in NYC (June 2022)

None of those live releases or deluxe reissues were in any year of a new album release though.

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GasLightStreet
Keep in mind who's organizing the record labels that release Stones material: regardless of the digital realm they still think releasing something too close to something else is a conflict.

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gotdablouse
Just asked the same question in the B&B 2025 thread...Probably means 2026 for the new album which would make sense with a tour coming on the heels of the release, unlike what they did for HD.

with BaB to be released in November there's obviously no time slot left to release a new album in 2025.

It might very well be a spring release for the new album but the Black and Blue Deluxe certainly won't delay any possible new album. They often released Deluxe/vault stuff within a few weeks. there's No competition between the new album and a Deluxe release.

Examples:

Hampton 81 and LA 75 (both November 2014)
Sticky Fingers Deluxe and Marquee (both June 2015)
Tokio 90 Leeds 82 (November 2015)
Atlantic City and Goats Head Soup Deluxe (September 2020)
El Mocambo (May 2022) and Licked Live in NYC (June 2022)

None of those live releases or deluxe reissues were in any year of a new album release though.

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I hope we get a new album by the end of the year. I don’t know if Keith is still interesting with the writing of new songs. I doubt it. As for the tour, I would not count on it. Will they spend one month rehearsal for 6 shows in Europe or in the US ? And the logistics will cost way too much. Very skeptical.