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missing the 12" version of Miss You and Any Way You Look at It

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missing the 12" version of Miss You and Any Way You Look at It

'Anyway You Look At It' and 'Miss You' (8:34 Remix) are on [Music.Apple.com] .

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As of today "Hackney Diamonds" has sold more than 1 million copies world wide.
Not bad.

It's a bit depressing if anything but not surprising.

Blue And Lonesome almost 2 million.
That's nearly twice as many sales and it's not a studio album of originals. .

VOODOO LOUNGE 7 Million

Bridge's To Babylon 5 million


Go back to Tattoo You 17 million

Sticky Fingers and Let It Bleed 22 million each.

It shows what the music they made prior to Hackney Diamonds meant to so many people.
Now I'll get hammered by GLS for being nostalgic but the Stones have been about nostalgia for decades, it's where the success and money come from, people don't go to see the Stones to hear Bite My Head Off and Live By The Sword, they want Gimme Shelter, Start Me Up and Midnight Rambler etc. Nostalgia.

I know some of you think HD was a good album but the sales reflect not nearly as many people like it as much as Blue And Lonesome or A Bigger Bang the previous studio album selling 2.4 million copies by March 2006.
When you consider the 18 year wait for HD it's impressive in the fact Mick And Keith were in their 70s but not impressive in the way we hoped.

Sorry, keefriffhards, although I respect your position, and you are not wrong by any means, but it appears you've missed me talking about streaming/record sales and how it has ruined the music industry in general, which means your position about sales is deaf ears and you don't understand.

You keep on about "impressive" with HD while comparing it to past albums - you're hanging on to an outdated modality. Quoting sales numbers that are misleading, especially LIB and SF, has zero relevancy in the streaming era.

Find the true record sales, not bloated numbers post-1991: those albums just sold over 1 million initially (except for the UK, where sales were always pathetic), like all of their 1970s albums - and even that means nothing since back then it was based on orders: the Stones probably averaged around 1.5 million copies sold per album, at best, in the 1970s and 1980s.

Sales in the 2020s are laughable in comparison to any previous decade. Even 2016 with B&L. However, sales of HD has zero reflection on how many people like it compared to B&L and ABB. Not sure how that escapes you but it's a massive disconnect hanging on to record sales to justify the popularity and or success of an album in the 2020s: sales have been essentially dead for YEARS.

How SF and TY sold then has zero to do with now. There's zero way to compare the success of an album from 1981 to 2023.

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Any news of the new album though?

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Any news of the new album though?

The album is being mixed right now, it should be done in 15 days or so with a late November or early December release as a strong posibility.

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Songs come and go off Spotify.

About 1/3 of my collection is not on Spotify. And I occasionally look through those that were on Spotify and see a handful removed.

It's not just a ln all-inclusive jukebox, there has to be an agreement on terms with the artist.

What hast been removed from Spotify? I use it and I never noticed that. They don't have the early vault releases like Hampton, LA75, Light the Fuse and more but the have the whole regular discography including the First two British Albums and most official compilations. They have the whole Mono Box Set. Some B-sides from the 70s onwards are missing but I see it as mostly complete. There's even Brixton 1995 which is mit available in physical audio format.

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From the Rolling Stone article "Hear the Rolling Stones Go Zydeco in New Tribute to Clifton Chenier", posted June 25:

The Stones, meanwhile, appear to be working away on a reported new album in London, with producer Andrew Watt again at the boards following their collaboration on Hackney Diamonds. As Richards tells RS, “We’re just putting some stuff together and seeing what happens. We cut all the time, you know, so whenever we can gather together, we’ll cut.”

[www.rollingstone.com]

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From the Rolling Stone article "Hear the Rolling Stones Go Zydeco in New Tribute to Clifton Chenier", posted June 25:

The Stones, meanwhile, appear to be working away on a reported new album in London, with producer Andrew Watt again at the boards following their collaboration on Hackney Diamonds. As Richards tells RS, “We’re just putting some stuff together and seeing what happens. We cut all the time, you know, so whenever we can gather together, we’ll cut.”

[www.rollingstone.com]

[archive.ph]

"...We cut all the time, you know, so whenever we can gather together, we’ll cut. We rarely release, but we'll cut”

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As of today "Hackney Diamonds" has sold more than 1 million copies world wide.
Not bad.

It's a bit depressing if anything but not surprising.

Blue And Lonesome almost 2 million.
That's nearly twice as many sales and it's not a studio album of originals. .

VOODOO LOUNGE 7 Million

Bridge's To Babylon 5 million


Go back to Tattoo You 17 million

Sticky Fingers and Let It Bleed 22 million each.

It shows what the music they made prior to Hackney Diamonds meant to so many people.
Now I'll get hammered by GLS for being nostalgic but the Stones have been about nostalgia for decades, it's where the success and money come from, people don't go to see the Stones to hear Bite My Head Off and Live By The Sword, they want Gimme Shelter, Start Me Up and Midnight Rambler etc. Nostalgia.

I know some of you think HD was a good album but the sales reflect not nearly as many people like it as much as Blue And Lonesome or A Bigger Bang the previous studio album selling 2.4 million copies by March 2006.
When you consider the 18 year wait for HD it's impressive in the fact Mick And Keith were in their 70s but not impressive in the way we hoped.

Let's leave the interpretations aside and let's talk about facts. What is the source of those numbers? The post-TATTOO YOU ones look sonewhat alright (not accurate, but close enough), but LET IT BLEED, STICKY FINGERS and TATTOO YOU are totally insane - each claimed to have sold more than HOT ROCKS that is generally listed as their best-selling album ever.

Not that it really matters to HACKNEY DIAMONDS or the new album they will release soon, but you know, if one's views and arguments are supposedly supported by facts, let's try to be somehow reasonable with those.

So name your source, please.

- Doxa

Apart from Blue And Lonesome i was listing studio album figures.

The information comes from faroutmagazine.co.uk
Rolling Stones
Records ranked by album sales

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As of today "Hackney Diamonds" has sold more than 1 million copies world wide.
Not bad.

It's a bit depressing if anything but not surprising.

Blue And Lonesome almost 2 million.
That's nearly twice as many sales and it's not a studio album of originals. .

VOODOO LOUNGE 7 Million

Bridge's To Babylon 5 million


Go back to Tattoo You 17 million

Sticky Fingers and Let It Bleed 22 million each.

It shows what the music they made prior to Hackney Diamonds meant to so many people.
Now I'll get hammered by GLS for being nostalgic but the Stones have been about nostalgia for decades, it's where the success and money come from, people don't go to see the Stones to hear Bite My Head Off and Live By The Sword, they want Gimme Shelter, Start Me Up and Midnight Rambler etc. Nostalgia.

I know some of you think HD was a good album but the sales reflect not nearly as many people like it as much as Blue And Lonesome or A Bigger Bang the previous studio album selling 2.4 million copies by March 2006.
When you consider the 18 year wait for HD it's impressive in the fact Mick And Keith were in their 70s but not impressive in the way we hoped.

Sorry, keefriffhards, although I respect your position, and you are not wrong by any means, but it appears you've missed me talking about streaming/record sales and how it has ruined the music industry in general, which means your position about sales is deaf ears and you don't understand.

You keep on about "impressive" with HD while comparing it to past albums - you're hanging on to an outdated modality. Quoting sales numbers that are misleading, especially LIB and SF, has zero relevancy in the streaming era.

Find the true record sales, not bloated numbers post-1991: those albums just sold over 1 million initially (except for the UK, where sales were always pathetic), like all of their 1970s albums - and even that means nothing since back then it was based on orders: the Stones probably averaged around 1.5 million copies sold per album, at best, in the 1970s and 1980s.

Sales in the 2020s are laughable in comparison to any previous decade. Even 2016 with B&L. However, sales of HD has zero reflection on how many people like it compared to B&L and ABB. Not sure how that escapes you but it's a massive disconnect hanging on to record sales to justify the popularity and or success of an album in the 2020s: sales have been essentially dead for YEARS.

How SF and TY sold then has zero to do with now. There's zero way to compare the success of an album from 1981 to 2023.

Sorry GasLightStreet but as usual you twist facts with your fiction based points of view.

If you look at YouTube plays for instance you get real feedback to how much individual songs are played on one medium that is a tangible evaluation of popularity with little room for error as far as variables go.
PAINT IT BLACK 569 MILLION VIEWS.
[youtu.be]
ANGRY 38 Million VIEWS
[youtu.be]

You still insist on disregarding nostalgia.

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Doxa, you've had days to come up with your fake BS, you show me some facts, that's a cool magazine and it's very complimentary of the bands we love.

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GasLightStreet you think albums don't sell these days, check out Beyonce, 200 million records.

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Doxa, you've had days to come up with your fake BS, you show me some facts, that's a cool magazine and it's very complimentary of the bands we love.

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Doxa, you've had days to come up with your fake BS, you show me some facts, that's a cool magazine and it's very complimentary of the bands we love.

I don't know about Faroutmagizine in general, but that article in particular is pretty weak journalism.

So you often listen a Rolling Stones album called ORPHAN that according to that article is their 9th most selling studio album and has sold 11.8 million copies? In my reality there exists no such album but maybe in yours alternative one does since you think that article tells facts.

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Doxa, you've had days to come up with your fake BS, you show me some facts, that's a cool magazine and it's very complimentary of the bands we love.

That magazine uses fake news.

Deal.

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ABB sold over 2.5 worldwide
B&L sold over 2.5 worldwide
HD sold almost 1.5 worldwide
Not bad at all for albums since 2000.

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ABB sold over 2.5 worldwide
B&L sold over 2.5 worldwide
HD sold almost 1.5 worldwide
Not bad at all for albums since 2000.

And Blue & Lonesome did particularly well in the U.K., or I've read, here.

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GasLightStreet you think albums don't sell these days, check out Beyonce, 200 million records.

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ABB sold over 2.5 worldwide
B&L sold over 2.5 worldwide
HD sold almost 1.5 worldwide
Not bad at all for albums since 2000.

And Blue & Lonesome did particularly well in the U.K., or I've read, here.

HD as well to my recollection, worse in the US.

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GasLightStreet you think albums don't sell these days, check out Beyonce, 200 million records.

That's an estimate that includes streaming numbers (according to @#$%& she's actually at a 110 million) and pertains to her entire career.

In terms of actual physical copies + downloads she's sold something more around 40 million for her career, and most of that was of course done in the pre-streaming era. Her latest record sold around 325k physical copies in the US in 2024.

Physical albums don't sell these days.

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GasLightStreet you think albums don't sell these days, check out Beyonce, 200 million records.

That's an estimate that includes streaming numbers (according to @#$%& she's actually at a 110 million) and pertains to her entire career.

In terms of actual physical copies + downloads she's sold something more around 40 million for her career, and most of that was of course done in the pre-streaming era. Her latest record sold around 325k physical copies in the US in 2024.

Physical albums don't sell these days.

They do if it's the right artist. Numbers for Ms. Swift's most recent album:

Of The Tortured Poets Department’s first-week unit sum of 2.61 million, album sales comprise 1.914 million (a number bolstered by its availability across more than 20 different iterations of the album), SEA units comprise 683,000 (equaling 891.37 million on-demand official streams of the set’s 31 songs, on its deluxe edition) and TEA units comprise 14,000. (All figures are rounded.)

With 1.914 million sold, The Tortured Poets Department is instantly the top-selling album of 2024, year-to-date. The second-biggest selling album, counting weekly sales from January through the present, is Beyoncé’s Cowboy Carter, with 228,000 copies sold in total.

The above taken from Billboard.

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GasLightStreet you think albums don't sell these days, check out Beyonce, 200 million records.

That's an estimate that includes streaming numbers (according to @#$%& she's actually at a 110 million) and pertains to her entire career.

In terms of actual physical copies + downloads she's sold something more around 40 million for her career, and most of that was of course done in the pre-streaming era. Her latest record sold around 325k physical copies in the US in 2024.

Physical albums don't sell these days.

They do if it's the right artist. Numbers for Ms. Swift's most recent album:

Of The Tortured Poets Department’s first-week unit sum of 2.61 million, album sales comprise 1.914 million (a number bolstered by its availability across more than 20 different iterations of the album), SEA units comprise 683,000 (equaling 891.37 million on-demand official streams of the set’s 31 songs, on its deluxe edition) and TEA units comprise 14,000. (All figures are rounded.)

With 1.914 million sold, The Tortured Poets Department is instantly the top-selling album of 2024, year-to-date. The second-biggest selling album, counting weekly sales from January through the present, is Beyoncé’s Cowboy Carter, with 228,000 copies sold in total.

The above taken from Billboard.