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I agree re the excellence of the Bigger Bang cover.

Sadly some of the the associated publicity was about how much the members of the band are interested in Cosmology (etc). Utter bulldust!

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I knew this was coming, you guys stretch reality to a point where everything said about Hackney Diamonds becomes meaningless, you cheapen the album and sound forgetful as to just how incredible the Stones used to be when you start talking about HD in the same context as Tattoo You.

How can you make comparisons, on what level did Hackney Diamonds tracks sound anything like the 81' 82" tour when played live.

The 81" album and tour is sacrilege, show some respect for what the Stones meant to people at that time.

Bill, Charlie and Ian Stewart are gone, HD isn't The Rolling Stones is it, it's a Jagger and Watt production with a possibly dazed and confused out of his depth Keith thrown into the recording so they can package it as RS product.
It's a good album for 78 year olds at the time of it's release and Ronnie plays well on it but it's not 81"

You can't accept the fact that The Rolling Stones have changed.

You have no respect for what the Stones did with HACKNEY DIAMONDS. Why do you keep bitching about people liking or loving the album? And then comparing live performances to 1981-82?

No one gives a shit about that except you. Your bitterness is so dumb it's bizarre.

You miss the entire point of the comparison. "Sacrilege" is a big word from someone that doesn't simply understand something simple.

Stay in the past.

Or continue being your angry little self that people like or love HD.

You're a fossil fan, not a Rolling Stones fan.

That's your opinion, my opinion is mine.
You go about your posts personally insulting people on a daily bases and get away with it, how does that work, you know i wouldn't get away with it.

You bully people on multiple threads with your bombastic provocative anger and then accuse others of doing the very thing you and your gatekeeper friends do.

Where are the personal insults in my post/ posts.

Look mate you aren't preaching to me, i and others don't need to take your insults because we have a different opinion to you, can't you understand that and be a little less condescending.

I know you and a few others basically live on here and pull together to run anyone who hears the Stones different to you out of iorr, you're like a gang now who take it upon themselves to moderate opposing views with personal attacks.

If you can't pull yourself together enough to respond to people you disagree with without insulting them why don't you do as ProfessorWolf suggests, ignore and move on, post baby post to your hearts content in the knowledge there's room here for everyone.

I have no issue with people who clearly express something. You're using a big brush to sweep your OPINION, which is usually wrong anyway. You drag your blanket through the dirt yet somehow haven't taken your ball and gone home.

Grow up.

However, I will ignore your incessantly nostalgia only posts from now on.

Happy?

No worries GLS, you're great actually because you have passion and soul, as I've said I'll stay out of this thread, sorry guys.

I'm sorry but everytime i look at this thread, i guess to learn something about th Stones recording sessions and i just find some news about Desperates Housewives.
I think it's time to close it or to change the name

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I also do still listen to Hackney Diamonds a lot. And many songs have even grown for me from first not liking them to then having them in my car driving playlist, for example Get Close. The saxophone solo gives me 1981 tour vibes, making me think they could have played this in the stadium on that great evening in the lets spend the night together concert movie. It fits the vibe.
And that's why I think the next album will be just as amazing and they still have so much left in the can. They are still the rolling Stones, just a bit older.

Yes...it is a retro-Tattoo You feel, great observation. It's one of about 5 or 6 songs on the album that could have/should have been singles. I think Whole Wide World and Depending on You were missed opportunities as well. In fact I'd argue that Whole Wide World should have been the follow-up single and tease SSoH out a bit later.

I agree, most memorable album since Tattoo You. Since Some Girls might be a bit of a stretch...

So for me, as one who prefers Tattoo You over Some Girls, I'd say it was maybe the best since Tattoo You because that comes first backwards chronologically (if I accept HD is better than Undercover, which I'm not sure I do)

HOWEVER, even comparing it to Some Girls I don't think it has quite the punch there...it's close though. For me LBTS, the weakest cut, drags it a bit.

But then again, you're comparing 12 songs on HD to 10 songs on SG so if you took top 10 on each it would be still closer.

BUT...you have to consider the strength of the singles too, and in that regard Miss You and Beast are uber-strong. As much as I love HD, it, as in most albums released by the band in the last 40 years, really doesn't have the killer single. That's the missing ingredient. Angry, a great song, isn't really a killer single.

Whole Wide World and Get Close could have been strong singles but apparently they didn't think so!

I have always like Professors posts here and a few others.

George is right I do not show up much. There are better things in life than reading posts which criticize the opinion of others.

Some of the folks on here I have met a few times.

And I will say hello to DDD and BFR.

I met BV the first time in 1995. He had been very good to all of us.

Sad a few individuals have caused the site to be a turnoff.

Keep on posting please Professor. I do stop in to read a few things from time to time.

Do the band still in the studio?

Hi All,

If a new Stones album is released, and let's all hope so, I am convinced that the first thing to be compared will be with Hackney Diamonds.
Is this right; I doubt it. Is it in line with expectations, also considering all previous posts, clearly. Maybe we should all just be happy if a new album comes out. There is no point in comparing. The best Stones albums are many years behind us, and they will definitely not reach that level again.
Just keep enjoying their (new) music.

Racca1962

I completely agree. Trying to compare things from different era and of course their ages is not a fair comparison.

We should be happy with whatever they give us. They have given us so much from almost every tour since Brian left and many are still unhappy.

The only way to make everyone happy would be to release every show from every tour so everyone will have their favorite show from whatever tour.


The majority of us are happy with Hackney Diamonds. Others will be unhappy with anything we get.


Hi All,

If a new Stones album is released, and let's all hope so, I am convinced that the first thing to be compared will be with Hackney Diamonds.
Is this right; I doubt it. Is it in line with expectations, also considering all previous posts, clearly. Maybe we should all just be happy if a new album comes out. There is no point in comparing. The best Stones albums are many years behind us, and they will definitely not reach that level again.
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No worries GLS, you're great actually because you have passion and soul, as I've said I'll stay out of this thread, sorry guys.

I find a lot of what you post to be quite poignant, just sometimes you get a bit... cranky nostalgic. It's all good.

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I also do still listen to Hackney Diamonds a lot. And many songs have even grown for me from first not liking them to then having them in my car driving playlist, for example Get Close. The saxophone solo gives me 1981 tour vibes, making me think they could have played this in the stadium on that great evening in the lets spend the night together concert movie. It fits the vibe.
And that's why I think the next album will be just as amazing and they still have so much left in the can. They are still the rolling Stones, just a bit older.

Yes...it is a retro-Tattoo You feel, great observation. It's one of about 5 or 6 songs on the album that could have/should have been singles. I think Whole Wide World and Depending on You were missed opportunities as well. In fact I'd argue that Whole Wide World should have been the follow-up single and tease SSoH out a bit later.

I agree, most memorable album since Tattoo You. Since Some Girls might be a bit of a stretch...

So for me, as one who prefers Tattoo You over Some Girls, I'd say it was maybe the best since Tattoo You because that comes first backwards chronologically (if I accept HD is better than Undercover, which I'm not sure I do)

HOWEVER, even comparing it to Some Girls I don't think it has quite the punch there...it's close though. For me LBTS, the weakest cut, drags it a bit.

But then again, you're comparing 12 songs on HD to 10 songs on SG so if you took top 10 on each it would be still closer.

BUT...you have to consider the strength of the singles too, and in that regard Miss You and Beast are uber-strong. As much as I love HD, it, as in most albums released by the band in the last 40 years, really doesn't have the killer single. That's the missing ingredient. Angry, a great song, isn't really a killer single.

Whole Wide World and Get Close could have been strong singles but apparently they didn't think so!

Angry was a solid single. The big riffage, the snarky chorus, the longing (please just forget about me). It's in the face and immediate.

Nothing else on the album has that but there are some close ones - Driving Me Too Hard is as classic Stones as they got on HD. It's got Mick being revealing, the "Look what you've done to me", while also being standoffish (Morocco or a corner bar). Get Close is another one that's almost there.

Overall, except for the weird Live By The Sword, it's a solid album, which is way more than probably what was expected given the last 3 original albums regarding their consistency - they're mostly equal in the bum tracks.

If Angry was edited to start with the guitars it's possible to contend with UOTN, Mixed Emotions and Love Is Strong is Duhhh, it's the Stones. Perhaps the count in is the weakest aspect but only one other single has a count in and it's a whatever single.

Looking forward to what didn't make HD on the new album. Given the focus of the project some of them are most likely better than some songs on HD.

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I also do still listen to Hackney Diamonds a lot. And many songs have even grown for me from first not liking them to then having them in my car driving playlist, for example Get Close. The saxophone solo gives me 1981 tour vibes, making me think they could have played this in the stadium on that great evening in the lets spend the night together concert movie. It fits the vibe.
And that's why I think the next album will be just as amazing and they still have so much left in the can. They are still the rolling Stones, just a bit older.

Yes...it is a retro-Tattoo You feel, great observation. It's one of about 5 or 6 songs on the album that could have/should have been singles. I think Whole Wide World and Depending on You were missed opportunities as well. In fact I'd argue that Whole Wide World should have been the follow-up single and tease SSoH out a bit later.

I agree, most memorable album since Tattoo You. Since Some Girls might be a bit of a stretch...

So for me, as one who prefers Tattoo You over Some Girls, I'd say it was maybe the best since Tattoo You because that comes first backwards chronologically (if I accept HD is better than Undercover, which I'm not sure I do)

HOWEVER, even comparing it to Some Girls I don't think it has quite the punch there...it's close though. For me LBTS, the weakest cut, drags it a bit.

But then again, you're comparing 12 songs on HD to 10 songs on SG so if you took top 10 on each it would be still closer.

BUT...you have to consider the strength of the singles too, and in that regard Miss You and Beast are uber-strong. As much as I love HD, it, as in most albums released by the band in the last 40 years, really doesn't have the killer single. That's the missing ingredient. Angry, a great song, isn't really a killer single.

Whole Wide World and Get Close could have been strong singles but apparently they didn't think so!

Angry was a solid single. The big riffage, the snarky chorus, the longing (please just forget about me). It's in the face and immediate.

Nothing else on the album has that but there are some close ones - Driving Me Too Hard is as classic Stones as they got on HD. It's got Mick being revealing, the "Look what you've done to me", while also being standoffish (Morocco or a corner bar). Get Close is another one that's almost there.

Overall, except for the weird Live By The Sword, it's a solid album, which is way more than probably what was expected given the last 3 original albums regarding their consistency - they're mostly equal in the bum tracks.

If Angry was edited to start with the guitars it's possible to contend with UOTN, Mixed Emotions and Love Is Strong is Duhhh, it's the Stones. Perhaps the count in is the weakest aspect but only one other single has a count in and it's a whatever single.

Looking forward to what didn't make HD on the new album. Given the focus of the project some of them are most likely better than some songs on HD.

I'ma disagree with you. I don't think Angry touches the greatness of UOTN. But It's better than Mixed Emotions, and compared to Love is Strong...I dunno they are just so different. But singles aside, this is a strong album. Really my only point on the killer lead single is to sell the album and I just don't think they've been able to do that since Start Me Up.

Singles wear out their welcome earlier though and they serve their purpose if they can introduce you to the deeper more interesting cuts.

Maybe Angry achieves this, but not in the numbers that you would hope. But then again, they're in their 80s so what do you want?

Please stay ON TOPIC here. Studio works 2025.

If you want to discuss HD or Angry or other past releases, there are separate threads about each album and song. Thanks!

Bjornulf

I thought of a great name for the new album! ... Hackney Diamonds II

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I thought of a great name for the new album! ... Hackney Diamonds II

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I thought of a great name for the new album! ... Hackney Diamonds II

don't give 'em ideas

That title would be "hackneyed."

~"Love is Strong"~

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ROLLING ON Rolling Stones are working on NEW album after dropping plans for massive summer tour – with stars already in studio

Their last album Hackney Diamonds shot straight to No1

Ellie Henman
Mike Sullivan
10 Jun 2025

THE Rolling Stones are working on a new album after dropping plans for a massive summer tour, The Sun can reveal.

Sir Mick Jagger, Keith Richards and Ronnie Wood have been in the recording studio since April.

They have laid down 13 songs and are in discussions over a release date for their 25th studio album.

The band’s last album, Hackney Diamonds, their first original work in 18 years, went straight to No1 following its release in 2023.

Sir Mick and Keith, both 81, and Ronnie, 78, have been holed up in West London’s Metropolis Studios.

A source said: “Mick, Keith and Ronnie have been secretly recording their new record with their drummer Steve Jordan.

"They’ve got 13 songs they’re happy with and they are discussing when they can release it.

“Originally, the plan was for them to bring their huge US tour to the UK and Europe this summer but promoters couldn’t get the dates to work.

“Instead the Stones decided to get back into the studio and put down their next album. It’s massive for their fans who didn’t get a chance to see them live this year.”

It is understood the It’s Only Rock ’n Roll stars have teamed up again with producer Andrew Watt, who worked on Hackney Diamonds.

Keith, who has a house in West Sussex, has been staying at London hotel The Dorchester so he can be closer to the studio.

An insider added: “Keith loves The Dorchester. It’s costing him a packet to stay there but it’s perfect for him.”

In November, to mark Ronnie’s 50th anniversary of joining the Stones, the band plans to release a remastered edition of its 1976 Black and Blue album, featuring two new tracks.

[www.thesun.co.uk]

Very cool, but as I asked in another thread, they must mean next year for the tour?

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Very cool, but as I asked in another thread, they must mean next year for the tour?

From The Sun article:

Originally, the plan was for them to bring their huge US tour to the UK and Europe this summer but promoters couldn’t get the dates to work.

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Very cool, but as I asked in another thread, they must mean next year for the tour?

It's referring to the summer 2025 tour planned but called off.

Okay, according to The Sun:
- 13 new tracks about ready to go. Open when.
- reissue of BLACK AND BLUE out in November, with two new tracks.

I would say not bad, not bad at all...

- Doxa

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Okay, according to The Sun:
- 13 new tracks about ready to go. Open when.
- reissue of BLACK AND BLUE out in November, with two new tracks.

I would say not bad, not bad at all...

- Doxa

OMG...such awesome news.

If Black and Blue is ready to go in November, then the new album could be released in April/May 2026 if they want to tour Europe next year.

The logical is to release the new album during the Christmas season this year with Black and Blue pushed to April 2026, but who knows.

Oh god I hope they go to Europe in 2026, my heart broke when this years tour didn't end up happening. </3

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If Black and Blue is ready to go in November, then the new album could be released in April/May 2026 if they want to tour Europe next year.

The logical is to release the new album during the Christmas season this year with Black and Blue pushed to April 2026, but who knows.

Couldn't they do both in the Fall? I mean Vault releases don't really sell that much anyway, only the hard core fans. If Tattoo You Deluxe didn't sell and they're still doing Black and Blue, they must be ok with smaller volume.

If they were going to push one back, at least 2026 would be Black and Blue's 50th Anniversary.

Rolling Stones 'ready to release surprise album after cancelling huge tour'

according to the Mirror UK....we have a new album?

[www.mirror.co.uk]



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Rolling Stones 'ready to release surprise album after cancelling huge tour'

according to the Mirror UK....we have a new album?

[www.mirror.co.uk]

Mirror cites The Sun as their source.

See The Sun article here - [iorr.org]

Not much of a surprise album now tho’.

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