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Re: What’s next for The Rolling Stones in 2025?
Posted by: treaclefingers ()
Date: February 21, 2025 22:12

As much as one can hope for another leg of a tour, that seems safely tucked away as a possibility until 2026, so with that in mind I think let's see the new album get a Christmas release in October. That'll be great as well to tour on in 2026.

Re: What’s next for The Rolling Stones in 2025?
Posted by: 24FPS ()
Date: February 21, 2025 23:18

First off, they wouldn't have to wait until the 50th to release a deluxe Black and Blue. I just looked at my Deluxe Goats Head Soup and it was released in 2020, not 2023. And the Exile Deluxe was 2010, not 2012.

I don't see them releasing a new album for some time. I think they would want to expose Europe to it on stage, even if it has to wait until 2026. I'd still like to know why they really cancelled Europe for 2025. It seems a lost opportunity to play some Hackney Diamonds tunes on stage before all the heat around the album dissipates, and it's on to the next thing.

It's time for something from the '76 European tour. Don't know if Knebworth is a mess and incomplete. Paris may be the choice. Personally I'd like both; Paris and whatever exists of Knebworth.

ABKCO must have little to nothing of value in their vaults, or else the Stones got veto power and don't stand to gain much from any pre-71 release. Wonder if Bill actually has anything of interest?

Re: What’s next for The Rolling Stones in 2025?
Posted by: Stoneage ()
Date: February 21, 2025 23:45

Nothing, it seems. No tour, no new material. Nothing uncommon though. In the eighties and nineties they took four years off between tours and recordings. So maybe something in 2029?

Re: What’s next for The Rolling Stones in 2025?
Posted by: Doxa ()
Date: February 22, 2025 01:26

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jahisnotdead

I think they have at least one more song featuring Paul McCartney in the can, and I believe there's probably another track with Dua Lipa too.

I think I heard also that there is at least one more with Charlie, but maybe it's just my imagination...

Who knows how many other songs they have with Charlie, but they at least have one with Macca and one with Bill still left.

- Doxa.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2025-02-22 01:28 by Doxa.

Re: What’s next for The Rolling Stones in 2025?
Posted by: georgelicks ()
Date: February 22, 2025 01:56

When Ghost Town came out, Mick and Keith said they had 5-6 songs finished from the 2019 sessions. In 2023, Mick said they had more songs finished with Charlie and they only chose 2 that went well with Hackney Diamonds, Mick also said they had several recorded takes of Driving Me Too Hard with Charlie but they didn't like it and re-recorded it with Steve Jordan.

The question is whether they are going to use more material with Charlie or re-record everything again with Steve Jordan, I hope it is the former and that Charlie continues to appear on more new Stones albums, even if it is in a couple of songs so that he is always present.

Re: What’s next for The Rolling Stones in 2025?
Posted by: babyblue ()
Date: February 22, 2025 08:17

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ProfessorWolf
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Stoneswolf
Is a (delayed) late summer /late autumn tour in Europe fully out of discussion? I remember in 2017 the tour starting in September was announced in May (following false rumours of an earlier start in that year)... I still keep on dreaming on history repeating...

there were rumours on the old thread about the possibility of reschedule dates for the fall

they could go into the studio this spring finish off the album and premier some of the songs on the fall tour

then release it at the end of the tour. Good thought but in my view don’t think it’s gonna happen.

don't know how realistic this is but i can hope

Re: What’s next for The Rolling Stones in 2025?
Posted by: mailexile67 ()
Date: February 22, 2025 09:50

I think studio time in March,mix in June/July, and a new studio album in October with an European Tour next year in the spring.
A Black and blue deluxe could come out in 2026.
My two cents on it.

Re: What’s next for The Rolling Stones in 2025?
Posted by: steffialicia ()
Date: February 22, 2025 15:41

I don't feel so hopeful for a tour. Even though 2025 was not "in stone," something about it not happening makes me doubtful for a future tour. It's very late.



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Re: What’s next for The Rolling Stones in 2025?
Posted by: thecitadel ()
Date: February 22, 2025 17:47

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ProfessorWolf
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Stoneswolf
Is a (delayed) late summer /late autumn tour in Europe fully out of discussion? I remember in 2017 the tour starting in September was announced in May (following false rumours of an earlier start in that year)... I still keep on dreaming on history repeating...

there were rumours on the old thread about the possibility of reschedule dates for the fall

they could go into the studio this spring finish off the album and premier some of the songs on the fall tour

then release it at the end of the tour

Finish the next album, then Tour in Autumn 2025 or Spring 2026.

don't know how realistic this is but i can hope

Re: What’s next for The Rolling Stones in 2025?
Posted by: GasLightStreet ()
Date: February 22, 2025 21:10

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24FPS
First off, they wouldn't have to wait until the 50th to release a deluxe Black and Blue. I just looked at my Deluxe Goats Head Soup and it was released in 2020, not 2023. And the Exile Deluxe was 2010, not 2012.

I don't see them releasing a new album for some time. I think they would want to expose Europe to it on stage, even if it has to wait until 2026. I'd still like to know why they really cancelled Europe for 2025. It seems a lost opportunity to play some Hackney Diamonds tunes on stage before all the heat around the album dissipates, and it's on to the next thing.

ABKCO must have little to nothing of value in their vaults, or else the Stones got veto power and don't stand to gain much from any pre-71 release. Wonder if Bill actually has anything of interest?

They play songs from albums released decades ago. If there isn't any tour at all this year and they don't release anything new it will give HD time to assimilate into the catalog as a go to album like EOMS, GHS or TY. If it's the HD tour in 2026 maybe they'll play some other songs, with Angry being the one for every show.

The 2007 tour they played one song, Rough Justice, from ABB (except for one show when the newest song was Start Me Up and the other show was ONNYA). The 2005 tour averaged 3. They gave up!

The HD tour they averaged 3, and changed some out. They didn't give up on the album.

Re: What’s next for The Rolling Stones in 2025?
Posted by: Justjon ()
Date: February 22, 2025 21:25

Just cancelled all the European 2025 reservations etc.(waited awhile, just in case). Now have tickets for AC/DC (USA), Paul Simon & Billy Joel dates (Bucket List) AND excited for Soul Coughing! Probably will add Pretenders & Sammy Hagar in Vegas (back to back nights). Leaving everything else open from July onward, just in case there is a fall 2025 trek, somewhere (hopefully!).......

Re: What’s next for The Rolling Stones in 2025?
Posted by: Davie137 ()
Date: February 22, 2025 23:03

At the premier in London last year for the Shepherds Bush gig I’m sure the guy who introduced it said something about keep an eye out for a Black and Blue release in the new year, was anyone else there and remember this being mentioned?

Re: What’s next for The Rolling Stones in 2025?
Posted by: frankotero ()
Date: February 22, 2025 23:20

My thought on why Europe '25 didn't happen. Maybe I'm off but it's my perspective based on history. The Stones refuse to accept anything less than they're used to, it means giving in. Then the promoters and ticket buyers are not willing to pay high prices and the ticket game (holding the best for the brokers). Again, I could be wrong but if they tour the USA again next year then.....

Re: What’s next for The Rolling Stones in 2025?
Posted by: georgelicks ()
Date: February 23, 2025 00:15

New Andrew Watt' interview in Rolling Stone:

There are plenty of leftover songs from the Hackney Diamonds sessions, and Watts wants the Stones to finish them. “It was a prolific time for the band. Those sessions, they had amassed like 18 years of material,” Watt says. “There was so much to go through and there was so much to kind of choose from initially, and then there were new songs that just came because everyone was rolling and kind of flying. So we did record more than went onto the album… There’s more material left. I can’t tell you if it’s gonna happen or not. It’s up to them, but it would be great… Why not finish the material, you know?”

[www.rollingstone.com]

Re: What’s next for The Rolling Stones in 2025?
Posted by: ProfessorWolf ()
Date: February 23, 2025 00:48

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Davie137
At the premier in London last year for the Shepherds Bush gig I’m sure the guy who introduced it said something about keep an eye out for a Black and Blue release in the new year, was anyone else there and remember this being mentioned?

wasn't there but this has been mentioned here and has its own thread

iorr

Re: What’s next for The Rolling Stones in 2025?
Posted by: sanQ ()
Date: February 23, 2025 05:23

Too bad that show they made about the recording of Hackney isn't coming out. I wanted to see it.

Re: What’s next for The Rolling Stones in 2025?
Posted by: GasLightStreet ()
Date: February 23, 2025 05:55

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georgelicks
When Ghost Town came out, Mick and Keith said they had 5-6 songs finished from the 2019 sessions. In 2023, Mick said they had more songs finished with Charlie and they only chose 2 that went well with Hackney Diamonds, Mick also said they had several recorded takes of Driving Me Too Hard with Charlie but they didn't like it and re-recorded it with Steve Jordan.

The question is whether they are going to use more material with Charlie or re-record everything again with Steve Jordan, I hope it is the former and that Charlie continues to appear on more new Stones albums, even if it is in a couple of songs so that he is always present.

The 18 years thing is bunk. They didn't work on songs for 18 years (obviously you didn't say that but it's been said elsewhere as if it's a real thing, which it isn't).

They started work on a new album in December of 2015. That's really bizarre that they took that long to start on something new when you consider they recorded A BIGGER BANG in 2004 and did overdubs in 2005.

The band hadn't recorded since 2004.

The ones I laid on (Mick) were Rough Justice, Infamy, and This Place Is Empty. So it's kind of half and half. Mick comes in far more prepared than I do.
- Keith Richards, July 2005


Keith has great timing playing guitar, not with numbers/facts.

Then there's the bit about how they did it, which Keith says one thing but Mick says other:

We did this record with minimal technology, just suitcases of computers. I didn't want to go into a massive glass-and-stone $10 million studio with all the bells and whistles. All that technology can change the way you play. We pared it down, and the intimacy worked.
- Mick Jagger, July 2005


Only Mick still thinks you have to take things into "real" recording studios to really make a real record. He got proved totally wrong on our latest - at the time of writing - album, A Bigger Bang, especially, because we did it all in his little château in France. We had got the stuff worked up, and he said, Now we'll take it into a real recording studio. And Don Was and I looked at each other, and Charlie looked at me... @#$%& this shit. We've already got it down right here. Why do you want to spring for all that bread? So you can say it was cut in so-and-so studio, the glass wall and the control room? We ain't going nowhere, pal. So finally he relented.
- Keith Richards, Life (2010)


[timeisonourside.com]

HACKNEY DIAMONDS was essentially started in December of 2015. A blooze album came out of it. Great.

They were slacking big time. Tours were nostalgia based - why bother with a new record? Mick has said blah blah blah we're not The Beach Boys, we're still a working band... blah blah blah.

Nope.

Just like The Beach Boys.

They continued to record. And tour. Then they had 50-90 songs down, whatever, depending on who you want to believe. Then they started over and that's HD.

Could HD been better? Of course. So could every album they've ever released.

So what.

Context.

We did sessions in London in December which suddenly gave us a whole load of stuff. In fact, the Stones have never cut so many tracks in such a short time. Now that’s not necessarily a guarantee of a good record but there is something in the works and I’d just like to leave it up there in mystery land.
- Keith Richards, March 2016


And? Tripe like this emerges:

(We'll finish the album) but I don't know when, because you want it to be really good and everything... I hope it's going to be a very eclectic album. I hope some of it's going to recognizable Stones and some of it's going to be some Stones you never heard before, maybe... I was working on it quite recently. We've got a long way to go, but I think it sounds really great and I'm looking forward to carrying on with that. I hope (next year)... I think it would be nice to do new songs and go in a new direction with them.
- Mick Jagger, October-November 2016


It continues...

I've got three songs and they‘re dynamite. I don‘t want to make any decisions about this until this record comes out, because I think it might radically change Mick‘s attitude; it might change mine. I want to see the fallout from (Blue & Lonesome) before I decide whether I want to record 40 of Mick‘s songs or whether he wants to sit down with me and record some songs together. That‘s my thing. That‘s my ball there. I‘ve always got a few songs on the back burner and so does Mick - he writes a lot. I don‘t. I tend to concentrate on two or three really interesting riffs or ideas, rather than being prolific... We did (record new songs) but they're still being worked on.
- Keith Richards, October-November 2016


Those new songs we worked on? To be honest with you, we don't really have a handle on it yet. The clay is on the table, but it doesn't look like President Lincoln yet! I will say that for this new album, Mick has played me probably 40 songs that he has been working on, and they really run the gamut.
- Don Was, October-November 2016


[timeisonourside.com]

No need to continue quoting. It's all the same garbage: Oh we're working on new songs. It's all new. We're slowly putting it together. It's going good. It's slowly taking shape.

Shut up.

Age doesn't matter. Get on with it or shut up.

So what's the new gag now? Nothing. Other than some quips in 2023 about having the next album ABC done because of leftovers.

Mick stated that they took too long. It's happening again.

The clock is ticking. Where's the new album? Where's the finished leftovers and additional new songs?

They're not working on it. They're not working on anything. Are they waiting? They had so much enthusiasm and looked forward to doing more.

Either they're being quiet about it or they truly are over it. They say things and then... nothing.

That's why fans expect things.

2025 has 10 more months to go. Hopefully they do record more, finish whatever, even from years ago, for a new album. Why not? It's what they do. Did.


They're just laying about.


Maybe it really is beyond them now. Maybe recording HD did them in. Maybe they can't come up with another riff. Maybe Mick's 300 songs all sound the same and Keith's 3 or 5 sound the same as whatever. And they've thought, Sod it.

They could imitate themselves at this point and people would love it. But they're not interested. Which is really strange. How can they not sound like The Rolling Stones when they are The Rolling Stones?

Time is running out. Quickly.

HD is a great album to go out on. The very last track says it.

Re: What’s next for The Rolling Stones in 2025?
Posted by: NilsHolgersson ()
Date: February 23, 2025 11:01

I could accept Hackney Diamonds as their final album. It’s more than I expected after they ditched their new songs years ago and ended up releasing Blue & Lonesome instead. If that had been their last studio effort, it would have felt like an unfinished chapter—but Hackney Diamonds proved they still had it.

That said, when Hackney Diamonds was being released, the Stones themselves were saying they already had the next album 75% finished. That’s why I’m not quite ready to accept that this was really their last one. If there’s more in the vaults—especially if it’s close to done—why wouldn’t they put it out?

So as much as I love Hackney Diamonds, I’m actually looking forward to what’s next.

Re: What’s next for The Rolling Stones in 2025?
Posted by: stonesurvive ()
Date: February 23, 2025 12:35

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Big Al
Retirement? winking smiley


..........I miss the days of hearing about a concert on the radio, but like the fact that their website & IORR is really the only way to hear about the lucky dips.

................but I really want to remind everyone about "rock 'n roll-101".....

The REAL ROCK 'N ROLL PERFORMERS DO NOT ANNOUNCE A "LAST TOUR" AND CERTAINLY DO NOT USE THE WORD "RETIREMENT"

Re: What’s next for The Rolling Stones in 2025?
Posted by: Rockman ()
Date: February 23, 2025 12:57



Keith Richards -- 2023



ROCKMAN

Re: What’s next for The Rolling Stones in 2025?
Posted by: Glimmerest ()
Date: February 23, 2025 14:11

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Rockman


Keith Richards -- 2023

Amen to that

Re: What’s next for The Rolling Stones in 2025?
Posted by: Big Al ()
Date: February 23, 2025 14:16

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Stoneage
Nothing, it seems. No tour, no new material. Nothing uncommon though. In the eighties and nineties they took four years off between tours and recordings. So maybe something in 2029?


Joker of the Year Award winner, already winking smiley

Re: What’s next for The Rolling Stones in 2025?
Posted by: Cristiano Radtke ()
Date: February 23, 2025 16:52

"In a new interview with Rolling Stone, the guitarist — who says he’s talking to Jagger about going back in the studio this year"

[www.rollingstone.com]

Re: What’s next for The Rolling Stones in 2025?
Posted by: Doxa ()
Date: February 23, 2025 17:52

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Cristiano Radtke
"In a new interview with Rolling Stone, the guitarist — who says he’s talking to Jagger about going back in the studio this year"

[www.rollingstone.com]

Hmm... It"s nice to hear that somebody is talking about going in the studio, but, honestly, it sounds like there is not that big urge to make a follow up to HACKNEY DIAMONDS...

- Doxa

Re: What’s next for The Rolling Stones in 2025?
Posted by: Irix ()
Date: February 23, 2025 18:05

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Doxa

it sounds like there is not that big urge to make a follow up to HACKNEY DIAMONDS

Another question would be: do they currently have enough song ideas (top-tier, no filler) for the missing 25-33% of the next album?

Re: What’s next for The Rolling Stones in 2025
Posted by: Big Al ()
Date: February 23, 2025 18:50

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Irix
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Doxa

it sounds like there is not that big urge to make a follow up to HACKNEY DIAMONDS

Another question would be: do they currently have enough song ideas (top-tier, no filler) for the missing 25-33% of the next album?


Of course. Also, the ‘completed songs’: how good are they? After all, they were overlooked for Hackney Diamonds. I know the B-side is a dead horse, but there’s been no ‘bonuses’ or anything of that sort. Is, what’s remaining, ‘second tier’?

Re: What’s next for The Rolling Stones in 2025?
Posted by: DeanGoodman ()
Date: February 23, 2025 20:00

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Cristiano Radtke
"In a new interview with Rolling Stone, the guitarist — who says he’s talking to Jagger about going back in the studio this year"

[www.rollingstone.com]

In other news, I'm talking to my buddy about going back to the gym this year.

Re: What’s next for The Rolling Stones in 2025?
Posted by: Bashlets ()
Date: February 23, 2025 22:44

Does anyone remember a rumor of them recording at some city in Italy like January or February 2024. I’m pretty sure I read it on this board.

Re: What’s next for The Rolling Stones in 2025
Posted by: doitywoik ()
Date: February 23, 2025 23:47

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Big Al
Of course. Also, the ‘completed songs’: how good are they? After all, they were overlooked for Hackney Diamonds. I know the B-side is a dead horse, but there’s been no ‘bonuses’ or anything of that sort. Is, what’s remaining, ‘second tier’?

That these songs didn't make HD doesn't necessarily mean that they are bad or at least worse than the HD material. They may as well simply have not fitted HD in style, or M&K felt that any further song would have disturbed the flow of HD as they conceivedd it, etc.

Another question here is, to what extent are these songs really finished (in the sense that they are in the can and need no further work)? And what was so totally wrong with the songs they recorded with Charlie?

And finally, the mother of all questions: Will we ever get to hear Keith's three dynamite songs? ...

Re: What’s next for The Rolling Stones in 2025?
Posted by: bye bye johnny ()
Date: February 24, 2025 00:09

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Bashlets
Does anyone remember a rumor of them recording at some city in Italy like January or February 2024. I’m pretty sure I read it on this board.

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