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...a ’Stones truck’ in 2025...?

A truck the stones are known the use for their stuff.

Probably very similar to 2024 - [iorr.org] .

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...a ’Stones truck’ in 2025...?

A truck the stones are known the use for their stuff.

Probably very similar to 2024 - [iorr.org] .

yes it was!

Can't find the picture now, but it was in LA.

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...a ’Stones truck’ in 2025...?

A truck the stones are known the use for their stuff.

Probably very similar to 2024 - [iorr.org] .

yes it was!

Can't find the picture now, but it was in LA.

The Picture from Jonatan Ruiz at Shidoobee

Is that picture actually from 2025 ? Also someone on FB mentioned "B&B overdubs"...New vocals maybe ? Since it's on FB it must be true ;-)

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If there is work being done in LA, vocal overdubs might explain why Ronnie was in London Wednesday night.

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If someone thinks HD is weaker than Undercover, I'm baffled....

Also when they record in Jamaica in 2022 there were Mick, Keith, Steve Jordan and Matt Clifford, but Ronnie wasn't there.
Now there is Mike Watt too that can play bass, so Ronnie presence isn't important right now, he will join the boys next sessions.

These current sessions are for the new studio album "75% almost ready" as said Mick...In ypur opinion, for a possibile "B&B" Deluxe, for overdubs, Mike Watt should be there?!

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for overdubs, Mike Watt should be there?!

Do you mean Andrew Watt - [iorr.org] ?

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Gerard, I think we all know they're old. You don't have to remind people. Sorry if you dislike the work they still do but many others are happy with it.

Thanks for your response. To clarify - I don't dislike what they do. I don't think The Stones ever made anything I actively disliked. It is more that I am unimpressed by their work - with a few exceptions - for the past thirty or so years. The bulk of it is - to my ears - ordinary, uninspired and rather pedestrian. Albeit mildly pleasant in places.

However if you, and many others, actively like what they do, good luck to you. Keep enjoying it. Sadly for me it has mostly been about diminishing returns...

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I do love all the whispers and hopes and dreams and wishes - and even optimism - about The Stones working on and on in defiance of age to (a) create a 'new' album, (b) burnish and upgrade an old album (Black&Blue?) and (c) doing another tour in 2026...

Lets just suppose what would happen if all this actually comes to pass. Another jaunt around the US? Followed by another jaunt around Europe in early 2027

Whatever they finish recording - or record - it won't be a 'new' album, it will be a new album.

You say it that way as if because the recordings are a couple years old it's not a new album. So that means pretty much every album through IORR wasn't new, because BAB was new and SG was new - but ER and U weren't 100% new.

It changes after that to everything being new.

Speaking of BLACK AND BLUE... hopefully the bonus material isn't brickwalled because the album will be no matter what (it won't be a new remaster, no need - they were ruined in 2009).

Touring in 2026? Currently, this 13th day of spring in 2025, things are going bonkers in ways that, this is just a guess, might cost insane prices to build stages, making a tour financially impossible, if things stay bonkers or get worse.

If they tour the US next year and they come around where I am I will probably go. If it isn't a mortgage payment.

Actually I did not mean 'new' in the way you suggest. I was not referring to unused recordings made in the relatively recent past. In fact I would not have an issue about considering such recordings as being new. Anything I have not heard yet qualifies as 'new' to me in my strange world.

To be totally honest I don't actually know why I put quotation marks on the word. They were not necessary. The Stones, like many many other bands, rarely create a new album totally from zero. They use some stuff from the vaults, they use other stuff that exists in embryonic form and work on it. And yet more stuff might be somewhere in the back of their minds and they try to do something different with it.

Good luck with attending any gig they might do in your neighbourhood. Me? No thanks! I've seen them age and become pedestrian in front of my eyes once too often. I prefer to remember them when they really did rule the world...

Mick did the Oscars, Keith at SNL, Ronnie at the event with Kenny Jones. Those are the big 3, and Chuck is doing his Allman Brothers thing, and presumably, Steve and Daryl are good to go.

Hope they can finish their album, and maybe warm-up with some stealth club shows.

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...a ’Stones truck’ in 2025...?

A truck the stones are known the use for their stuff.

Probably very similar to 2024 - [iorr.org] .

yes it was!

Can't find the picture now, but it was in LA.

The Picture from Jonatan Ruiz at Shidoobee

both pictures have been taken at the same place but they are not showing the same truck! Both trucks look similar but if you take a closer look at some details you'll see some differences.
The green leaves behind the bars of the black door look a little bit different. Hence, the two photos were not take on the same day

Jonathan sent me the picture at the time was taken via whatsapp, also told me that personel there didn´t deny some Stones works there.

Thanks for the update, very nice news!

I want new songs the stuff already recorded that didn’t make Hackney Diamonds. Of course this upcoming release will need a different name not HD 2

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Good luck with attending any gig they might do in your neighbourhood. Me? No thanks! I've seen them age and become pedestrian in front of my eyes once too often. I prefer to remember them when they really did rule the world...

I saw the Stones twice in 1994. Both shows were ok. It seems they were, in general, a bit raggily on purpose. Only two songs were different but Tumbling Dice, Shattered, Sparks Will Fly, Out Of Tears, It's All Over Now and Monkey Man were fantastic.

1989 - incredible.

2019 - incredible.

Which was best Stones wise of the four? 2019. The beauty of 2019 was they didn't have anything to prove, they could just perform, although Gimme Shelter should've been left out. They should've left that one alone after 1999.

I hear and ready this news today.

Bye

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Is it confirmed?!

No Diamond in title please

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No Diamond in title please

yeah, another gemstone. Ruby maybe?

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No Diamond in title please

yeah, another gemstone. Ruby maybe?

Possibly. But they'd be restricted to releasing it on a Tuesday.

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Good luck with attending any gig they might do in your neighbourhood. Me? No thanks! I've seen them age and become pedestrian in front of my eyes once too often. I prefer to remember them when they really did rule the world...

I saw the Stones twice in 1994. Both shows were ok. It seems they were, in general, a bit raggily on purpose. Only two songs were different but Tumbling Dice, Shattered, Sparks Will Fly, Out Of Tears, It's All Over Now and Monkey Man were fantastic.

1989 - incredible.

2019 - incredible.

Which was best Stones wise of the four? 2019. The beauty of 2019 was they didn't have anything to prove, they could just perform, although Gimme Shelter should've been left out. They should've left that one alone after 1999.

To compare the Stones in 2019 or anytime since 2012 against 2003 or before is a snub to how incredible this band was before age caught up with them.
In 89' they were genuinely incredible, 2019 not so much, i mean come on, watch Keith in 89' and then again in 2019, it's a world of difference, Micks voice for instance, unfair to compare, the power is gone live.

I’d push back on this with the Mick voice part. Although I’m too young to have seen him back then, I consume their live catalogue like crazy. Mick picks and chooses his moments on tour to wow with his vocals. Reaching head voice at 80 is damn near impossible for most singers and he did it on HD tour multiple times. He dials back on purpose, for longevity. Sure there is some loss of power, but if you compare him to his contemporaries like Paul, Plant, Daltry, he’s so much closer to his vintage self than those singers. The only person I’ve seen who gives him a run for his money with maintaining vocals into old age is Buddy Guy.

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Good luck with attending any gig they might do in your neighbourhood. Me? No thanks! I've seen them age and become pedestrian in front of my eyes once too often. I prefer to remember them when they really did rule the world...

I saw the Stones twice in 1994. Both shows were ok. It seems they were, in general, a bit raggily on purpose. Only two songs were different but Tumbling Dice, Shattered, Sparks Will Fly, Out Of Tears, It's All Over Now and Monkey Man were fantastic.

1989 - incredible.

2019 - incredible.

Which was best Stones wise of the four? 2019. The beauty of 2019 was they didn't have anything to prove, they could just perform, although Gimme Shelter should've been left out. They should've left that one alone after 1999.

To compare the Stones in 2019 or anytime since 2012 against 2003 or before is a snub to how incredible this band was before age caught up with them.
In 89' they were genuinely incredible, 2019 not so much, i mean come on, watch Keith in 89' and then again in 2019, it's a world of difference, Micks voice for instance, unfair to compare, the power is gone live.

In '89 they were good but - for me - certainly not incredible. I'm very reluctant to use superlatives. Given their experience, history, recorded legacy and huge fan base we had every right to expect them to be at the top of their game. That was something they only occasionally achieved. I saw them a few times in '89. mostly they were as good as it was reasonable to expect. However two of their gigs were pretty lousy.

In 2019 I thought they were, at best, workmanlike. But mostly they were - at least to me - pedestrian. I do accept GasLightStreet's point about them not having anything left to prove that year. That is 100% correct. However in my opinion they had nothing left to prove after 1980. Pretty much everything after that was about retreading old ground and setting records for longevity..

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Good luck with attending any gig they might do in your neighbourhood. Me? No thanks! I've seen them age and become pedestrian in front of my eyes once too often. I prefer to remember them when they really did rule the world...

I saw the Stones twice in 1994. Both shows were ok. It seems they were, in general, a bit raggily on purpose. Only two songs were different but Tumbling Dice, Shattered, Sparks Will Fly, Out Of Tears, It's All Over Now and Monkey Man were fantastic.

1989 - incredible.

2019 - incredible.

Which was best Stones wise of the four? 2019. The beauty of 2019 was they didn't have anything to prove, they could just perform, although Gimme Shelter should've been left out. They should've left that one alone after 1999.

To compare the Stones in 2019 or anytime since 2012 against 2003 or before is a snub to how incredible this band was before age caught up with them.
In 89' they were genuinely incredible, 2019 not so much, i mean come on, watch Keith in 89' and then again in 2019, it's a world of difference, Micks voice for instance, unfair to compare, the power is gone live.

It's not a snub. You didn't comprehend what I said.

You're acting like I just declared DIRTY WORK better than EOMS. Stop flailing your Stones flag.

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I hope it's another blues album or a new project with country or soul or whatever covers.
I don't want an album of completely new songs at all.
It would be better if they only released their own songs as singles (or EPs) occasionally and only the really good ones.
I only listen to 3-4 songs from Hackney Diamonds but I listen to Blue & Lonesome and Living In A Ghost Town quite a lot.

It’s funny. I listened to Hackney Diamonds again last night, and I can’t figure out how a Stones fan could be interested in that. In my humble opinion it is the weakest album of the band. Some bridges or choruses sound good artificial intelligence. It seems that the band played very little in the same room and that Keith’s guitar was made with a synthesizer. I’m not talking about the weakness of the compositions...
You will understand that I am not very excited by the "new music" and disappointed that the band is not on stage.

If you don't like it, you don't. That's too bad because I think most people seem to like or love it, I'm in the love category. While I also still want to see the band tour, it's much more satisfying to see them insert a few new songs in as well, that was quite enjoyable for the two shows I saw last tour. Hoping the new album, when it lands is as good. A great way for some beloved octogenarians to cap their most amazing career.

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In '89 they were good but - for me - certainly not incredible. I'm very reluctant to use superlatives. Given their experience, history, recorded legacy and huge fan base we had every right to expect them to be at the top of their game. That was something they only occasionally achieved. I saw them a few times in '89. mostly they were as good as it was reasonable to expect. However two of their gigs were pretty lousy.

In 2019 I thought they were, at best, workmanlike. But mostly they were - at least to me - pedestrian. I do accept GasLightStreet's point about them not having anything left to prove that year. That is 100% correct. However in my opinion they had nothing left to prove after 1980. Pretty much everything after that was about retreading old ground and setting records for longevity..

My observations are only in the context of what I've witnessed, zero to do with their history and legacy and blah blah blah.

I'm not comparing to other tours. I never expected GET YER YA-YA'S OUT! to magically appear on stage. It's only about what I heard in person. The 1994 live PPV and the live tracks from HONK, oh, crap, kind of - only 6 songs are comparable, with Mr D and LSTNT being the best of the 6 to my ears (was Mick wearing a clothespin on his nose for Under My Thumb's vocal overdub?) - the NO FILTER Stones sound better than 1994-95 overall.

To top off about my saying they have nothing left to prove, not specifically in regard to what you said about you thinking they had nothing left to prove after 1980, perhaps Keith said it best in 1994:



After the 1981-82 tours, which, if you think about it, were just another couple of sloppy tours in comparison to how big and professional the tours would be, especially hype wise, from 1989 to 2003, what they had to prove was their defiance to being aged.

It's ridiculous. For a while it mattered that they recorded new albums, at least to them, so that they didn't look like The Beach Boys, or whatever reason they had (other than it's in the record contract) but even that paused and then stopped. So, aside from the basically 5 year break between BANG and whatever that was in 2012, they've kept on keeping on and now they're so far beyond the ridiculous ageism that... they have nothing left to prove: they're just doing what they do which is what they've done all along.

The criticism is hilarious. Their age now and still performing and people thinking it's ridiculous - you know what's ridiculous? Wars with lots of people dying because of ego.

That's a real thing. A band of geezers is not a global crisis. It's just music.

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Good luck with attending any gig they might do in your neighbourhood. Me? No thanks! I've seen them age and become pedestrian in front of my eyes once too often. I prefer to remember them when they really did rule the world...

I saw the Stones twice in 1994. Both shows were ok. It seems they were, in general, a bit raggily on purpose. Only two songs were different but Tumbling Dice, Shattered, Sparks Will Fly, Out Of Tears, It's All Over Now and Monkey Man were fantastic.

1989 - incredible.

2019 - incredible.

Which was best Stones wise of the four? 2019. The beauty of 2019 was they didn't have anything to prove, they could just perform, although Gimme Shelter should've been left out. They should've left that one alone after 1999.

To compare the Stones in 2019 or anytime since 2012 against 2003 or before is a snub to how incredible this band was before age caught up with them.
In 89' they were genuinely incredible, 2019 not so much, i mean come on, watch Keith in 89' and then again in 2019, it's a world of difference, Micks voice for instance, unfair to compare, the power is gone live.

It's not a snub. You didn't comprehend what I said.

You're acting like I just declared DIRTY WORK better than EOMS. Stop flailing your Stones flag.

Okay it's an injustice then