i share others shock that chubby checker is not in already

seems even more bizarre to me then some of the more often sited examples

one would have figured that he would have been in 30 years ago

and ironilcly he's still alive and performing

got to be one of the last of these guys left from the 50's

he ain't twisting much at 83 but his voice is still surprisingly good

Devo will get in hopefully while they are with us, their story is underrated and interesting. Mark Mothersbaugh’s contribution to film and TV is super impressive.

Seeing them in May!!!!!

Chris Robinson Says Black Crowes ‘Just Very Excited’ About Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Nomination

The sibling rockers nominated alongside Mariah Carey, Billy Idol, Joy Division/New Order, Cyndi Lauper, Maná, Oasis, Outkast and the White Stripes, among others.

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Chubby Checker is a fake. He stole his act from Hank Ballard, who wrote The Twist. And his name is a rip off of Fats Domino.

That's a really long time to hold a grudge Koen!

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And still no

Grand Funk Railroad

The Guess Who

and Three Dog Night

in other words, "no sugar tonight".

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Grand Funk Railroad

The Guess Who

and Three Dog Night

in other words, "no sugar tonight".

in my coffee and my tea

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Chubby Checker is a fake. He stole his act from Hank Ballard, who wrote The Twist. And his name is a rip off of Fats Domino.

A fake? Cut it out. The song was an obscure B sides that didn't go anywhere. Dick Clark pushed for Checker to rerecord it. There were hundred of songs that weren't hits, but another artist came along rerecorded it and it became a hit.

That's what everybody did in the day. Just like The Rolling Stones. Almost all of Three Dog Night Hits were B sides for other artists. And if your point is valid about their name. The Beatle are a rip off of the Crickets. ZZ Top is a rip off. On and on and on and on.
Is Joe Cocker was a fake? He never wrote his songs recorded remakes written by others.

I’d stick a few quid on Oasis pulling a Pistols and telling them to f**k off.

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I’d stick a few quid on Oasis pulling a Pistols and telling them to f**k off.

I actually would as well, but Noel is still pretty buddy buddy with a lot of musicians that he's kinda changed. And as much as Liam pretends like he doesn't want to be accepted, we all know he does.

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Chubby Checker is a fake. He stole his act from Hank Ballard, who wrote The Twist. And his name is a rip off of Fats Domino.

A fake? Cut it out. The song was an obscure B sides that didn't go anywhere. Dick Clark pushed for Checker to rerecord it. There were hundred of songs that weren't hits, but another artist came along rerecorded it and it became a hit.

That's what everybody did in the day. Just like The Rolling Stones. Almost all of Three Dog Night Hits were B sides for other artists. And if your point is valid about their name. The Beatle are a rip off of the Crickets. ZZ Top is a rip off. On and on and on and on.
Is Joe Cocker was a fake? He never wrote his songs recorded remakes written by others.

Exactly.

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I’d stick a few quid on Oasis pulling a Pistols and telling them to f**k off.

I actually would as well, but Noel is still pretty buddy buddy with a lot of musicians that he's kinda changed. And as much as Liam pretends like he doesn't want to be accepted, we all know he does.

Liam has a sense of humor

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Chubby Checker is a fake. He stole his act from Hank Ballard, who wrote The Twist. And his name is a rip off of Fats Domino.

A fake? Cut it out. The song was an obscure B sides that didn't go anywhere. Dick Clark pushed for Checker to rerecord it. There were hundred of songs that weren't hits, but another artist came along rerecorded it and it became a hit.

That's what everybody did in the day. Just like The Rolling Stones. Almost all of Three Dog Night Hits were B sides for other artists. And if your point is valid about their name. The Beatle are a rip off of the Crickets. ZZ Top is a rip off. On and on and on and on.
Is Joe Cocker was a fake? He never wrote his songs recorded remakes written by others.

Exactly.

yes it's clearly what the last time is based on (and they should be more transparent about it's origins)

but the stones did a lot more then just rerecord it

it a little different from what chubby checker did with hank ballards the twist









he just rerecorded an exact copy of hank ballards song

the stones took significant elements from the staples singers song and created something very different and original (maybe should've shared the credit though)

Trey Anastasio Talks Phish’s Rock & Roll Hall of Fame Nomination (and Why He’s Not Voting for His Own Band)

Anastasio, a first-time nominee in Phish’s 41st year as a band, discusses what the honor means to him, Kendrick Lamar’s Super Bowl halftime show, and how MJ Lenderman has ruined his life.

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February 13, 2025


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Billy Idol Was ‘Knocked Down’ by His Rock Hall Nomination

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Chubby Checker is a fake. He stole his act from Hank Ballard, who wrote The Twist. And his name is a rip off of Fats Domino.

A fake? Cut it out. The song was an obscure B sides that didn't go anywhere. Dick Clark pushed for Checker to rerecord it. There were hundred of songs that weren't hits, but another artist came along rerecorded it and it became a hit.

That's what everybody did in the day. Just like The Rolling Stones. Almost all of Three Dog Night Hits were B sides for other artists. And if your point is valid about their name. The Beatle are a rip off of the Crickets. ZZ Top is a rip off. On and on and on and on.
Is Joe Cocker was a fake? He never wrote his songs recorded remakes written by others.

Exactly.

yes it's clearly what the last time is based on (and they should be more transparent about it's origins)

but the stones did a lot more then just rerecord it

it a little different from what chubby checker did with hank ballards the twist









he just rerecorded an exact copy of hank ballards song

the stones took significant elements from the staples singers song and created something very different and original (maybe should've shared the credit though)

Well, true, Mick and Keith basically rewrote it. They also rewrote Love In Vain but gave credit. Maybe they were told not to give the Staples credit by their squirrelly manager.

I think The Last Time was the first one we actually managed to write with a BEAT, the first non-puerile song. It had a strong Staple Singers influence in that it came out of an old gospel song that we revamped and reworked. And I didn't actually realize until after we'd written it because we'd been listening to this Staple Singers album for 10 months or so. You don't go out of your way to LIFT songs, but what you play is eventually the product of what you've heard before.

- Keith Richards

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Ha ha. There's been a ton of such things. Jimmy Page and Robert Plant were blatant. Johnny Cash got sued and paid!!!

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Chubby Checker is a fake. He stole his act from Hank Ballard, who wrote The Twist. And his name is a rip off of Fats Domino.

A fake? Cut it out. The song was an obscure B sides that didn't go anywhere. Dick Clark pushed for Checker to rerecord it. There were hundred of songs that weren't hits, but another artist came along rerecorded it and it became a hit.

That's what everybody did in the day. Just like The Rolling Stones. Almost all of Three Dog Night Hits were B sides for other artists. And if your point is valid about their name. The Beatle are a rip off of the Crickets. ZZ Top is a rip off. On and on and on and on.
Is Joe Cocker was a fake? He never wrote his songs recorded remakes written by others.

Exactly.

yes it's clearly what the last time is based on (and they should be more transparent about it's origins)

but the stones did a lot more then just rerecord it

it a little different from what chubby checker did with hank ballards the twist









he just rerecorded an exact copy of hank ballards song

the stones took significant elements from the staples singers song and created something very different and original (maybe should've shared the credit though)

Well, true, Mick and Keith basically rewrote it. They also rewrote Love In Vain but gave credit. Maybe they were told not to give the Staples credit by their squirrelly manager.

I think The Last Time was the first one we actually managed to write with a BEAT, the first non-puerile song. It had a strong Staple Singers influence in that it came out of an old gospel song that we revamped and reworked. And I didn't actually realize until after we'd written it because we'd been listening to this Staple Singers album for 10 months or so. You don't go out of your way to LIFT songs, but what you play is eventually the product of what you've heard before.

- Keith Richards

[timeisonourside.com]


Ha ha. There's been a ton of such things. Jimmy Page and Robert Plant were blatant. Johnny Cash got sued and paid!!!

forgive my ignorance but what was there to credit the staple singers for exactly?

because this could be the last time is an old traditional spiritual not something they wrote just for that song

would it just be the somewhat similar guitar part?

as for love in vain they rewrote the music but kept robert johnson's lyrics and aren't the lyrics the most important part when crediting songs? (genuinely asking)



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Chubby Checker getting more votes than Oasis?

Liam is right!

So, does this mean Oasis have no chance of being inducted?

Oasis didn't fare well in last year's fan vote either.

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The White Stripes are one of the few rock bands on there. How are they in almost dead last. Kinda proves how "fans" shouldn't really run the Hall either. They're largely as clueless and fickle as those in charge, just wanting to induct their favorites they grew up with instead of following any sort of merit basis.

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The White Stripes are one of the few rock bands on there. How are they in almost dead last. Kinda proves how "fans" shouldn't really run the Hall either. They're largely as clueless and fickle as those in charge, just wanting to induct their favorites they grew up with instead of following any sort of merit basis.

This shouldn't be a surprise.

But Imho I am still shocked that Oasis is so low. They're a huge band and doing a massive reunion tour that's been big news for a while.

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Preaching to the choir my friend!

I also lament no Paul Revere & the Raiders and Herman's Hermits. I credit these two groups with the television era of rock bands.

In my opinion if the television era of rock bands mattered to them, the Monkees would be considered, but that's never going to happen.

I totally agree on the Monkees being a huge part of the TV and AM radio era which was a huge step in the evolution of rock n roll. Almost all of the 60's and early 70's lighter weight bands have been ignored with prejudice. I dont understand why these groups that we all watched every weekend on Ed Sullivan and Dick Clark and many other hit TV shows are completely ignored. But yet we have someone like Mariah Carey who is a complete made up TV type star doing Christmas shows across the USA. Just makes me chuckle.

I disagree with almost everything about the rock n roll hall of fame and it is basically invisible to me. As a regular Joe all I can do is ignore t and give them none of my money. I have had several chances to go and always stand my ground and say I will not. (every other year I have a trade show in Cleveland)

My yearly rant is finished.

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Well...

I mean Bad Company, Chubby Checker and Joe Cocker should all have already been in there years ago, so there's at least that.

I like Billy Idol, and Soundgarden certainly deserves it too. Too few female artists so Cindy Lauper, a little more pop than rock (but then we have Mariah & Outkast in the running, so there's that) but she was definitely a breakout star in the 80s.

I don't have a problem with where this landed strictly speaking though am surprised that White Stripes, Black Crowes and Oasis didn't "make the cut".

There aren't too many other big acts missing are there? I agree Monkees should be in there. Maybe next year?

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There aren't too many other big acts missing are there? I agree Monkees should be in there. Maybe next year?

Monkees often get brought up as an act unfairly exluded due to the former head's pettyness. Sadly I wonder if it's too late for them to get enough votes to get in by now. I hope not.

i'd like to add to the list of bands that should be in the there and aren't

why isn't steppenwolf in?

really the band that band that recorded born to be wild and magic carpet ride aren't good enough

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i'd like to add to the list of bands that should be in the there and aren't

why isn't steppenwolf in?

really the band that band that recorded born to be wild and magic carpet ride aren't good enough

First band to say "heavy metal" in a song!

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i'd like to add to the list of bands that should be in the there and aren't

why isn't steppenwolf in?

really the band that band that recorded born to be wild and magic carpet ride aren't good enough

If anything, I almost think they are the poster children of "EVERYONE doesn't make it in." They were essentially a two hit wonder. They are great, but does their 2-5/10 really great songs compare with a catalogue like the Beatles or the Stones. It feels unfair to the consistency of those other artists. There was that idea and practice for a year or two of "singles" in the rock and roll hall of fame, which is fraught with problems, but kinda solves some of those. I always thought an "albums" of the Hall Of Fame wouldn't be a bad idea. To induct something like Bat Out Of Hell, or Boston, as "albums" as opposed to the artists themselves, that didn't have nearly as big an impact on music, but those albums certainly did.

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i'd like to add to the list of bands that should be in the there and aren't

why isn't steppenwolf in?

really the band that band that recorded born to be wild and magic carpet ride aren't good enough

If anything, I almost think they are the poster children of "EVERYONE doesn't make it in." They were essentially a two hit wonder. They are great, but does their 2-5/10 really great songs compare with a catalogue like the Beatles or the Stones. It feels unfair to the consistency of those other artists. There was that idea and practice for a year or two of "singles" in the rock and roll hall of fame, which is fraught with problems, but kinda solves some of those. I always thought an "albums" of the Hall Of Fame wouldn't be a bad idea. To induct something like Bat Out Of Hell, or Boston, as "albums" as opposed to the artists themselves, that didn't have nearly as big an impact on music, but those albums certainly did.

That's an interesting point.

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i'd like to add to the list of bands that should be in the there and aren't

why isn't steppenwolf in?

really the band that band that recorded born to be wild and magic carpet ride aren't good enough

If anything, I almost think they are the poster children of "EVERYONE doesn't make it in." They were essentially a two hit wonder. They are great, but does their 2-5/10 really great songs compare with a catalogue like the Beatles or the Stones. It feels unfair to the consistency of those other artists. There was that idea and practice for a year or two of "singles" in the rock and roll hall of fame, which is fraught with problems, but kinda solves some of those. I always thought an "albums" of the Hall Of Fame wouldn't be a bad idea. To induct something like Bat Out Of Hell, or Boston, as "albums" as opposed to the artists themselves, that didn't have nearly as big an impact on music, but those albums certainly did.

that's a good point

but it's a pretty high bar to hold other bands to the level of the beatles and the stones

also it's clearly not something the hall does and hasn't for a long time and considering some of the folks they've inducted recently i'm sure many would much prefer steppenwolf gets in

and i would argue that those two hits are so stratospherically good, well known and associated with rock n' roll that they deserve some kind of honor and recognition from the hall

i think the album category is an interesting idea

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i'd like to add to the list of bands that should be in the there and aren't

why isn't steppenwolf in?

really the band that band that recorded born to be wild and magic carpet ride aren't good enough

If anything, I almost think they are the poster children of "EVERYONE doesn't make it in." They were essentially a two hit wonder. They are great, but does their 2-5/10 really great songs compare with a catalogue like the Beatles or the Stones. It feels unfair to the consistency of those other artists. There was that idea and practice for a year or two of "singles" in the rock and roll hall of fame, which is fraught with problems, but kinda solves some of those. I always thought an "albums" of the Hall Of Fame wouldn't be a bad idea. To induct something like Bat Out Of Hell, or Boston, as "albums" as opposed to the artists themselves, that didn't have nearly as big an impact on music, but those albums certainly did.

that's a good point

but it's a pretty high bar to hold other bands to the level of the beatles and the stones

also it's clearly not something the hall does and hasn't for a long time and considering some of the folks they've inducted recently i'm sure many would much prefer steppenwolf gets in

and i would argue that those two hits are so stratospherically good, well known and associated with rock n' roll that they deserve some kind of honor and recognition from the hall

i think the album category is an interesting idea

I don't necessarily disagree with that point about them being so strong, at a certain point I feel a line would need to be drawn. Like any Hall (which again, is the reason some people have issues with them. Groucho famously saying "I refuse to join any club that would have me as a member."), the entire point of it is its exclusive, not everyone gets in. There are the people like Bo Diddley that maybe didn't have the career of a "Beatles", but certainly inspired literally everyone that that seems obvious. I still think its a travesty the Misfits aren't in. I'm not even their biggest fan, but they inspired almost everyone after them. That's a short career, and not a very lucrative one, but an impactful one.

Its splitting hairs, but while Steppenwolf had those big songs, I would say its still different than having an impactful enough career. Its kinda like you wouldn't induct the Kingsman, even though Louie Louie is THE basis on so much history of rock. To me, you need to have enough Jerry Lee Lewis or Chuck Berry hits that are also the foundation of the genre to qualify you for the Hall, not just the one big one. In fact some of the Singles that were inducted for that short amount of time were Louie Louie, Born To Be Wild, The Twist, Rumble (Link Wray eventually got in later), Money That's What I Want, Wild Thing. I feel like those all made sense. You put in Leader Of The Pack, which they did, but not the Shangri-Las, who aren't say, The Ronettes. Its just a system where the Hall as an entity has to rank people, though every contributed something. But the best of the best get the Mt Rushmore. I was annoyed that Procol Harum got Whiter Shade Of Pale inducted as a single, because to me they are more than just that one song. In the same way Mott The Hoople is more than All The Young Dudes. And that those two bands are different than Born To Be Wild.

But the Hall is what it is. Its sad, cause I think a combination of personal preference, more interest in ratings for a TV broadcast over substance (maybe so that there was more money for the Hall itself?), and just a general widening of the rules given the culture of acceptance today (participation trophies and whatnot) has really damaged and weakened what could have been, and was, a very successful and respected HOF for a long time. The priorities changed for a number of reasons, and sure not everyone is going to be the Beatles and Stones, but I still maintain the classification of rock and roll is still pretty obvious. Bonnie Raitt makes sense, Hall & Oats don't. But they win for me putting so much thought into it lol.