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GJV
I bought the three Stones related items, there was more interesting stuff, but the prices were too much for me to buy more.
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johnnythunders
single entitled Matter Of Time ...47 years after we released our second one!
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johnnythunders
Hi everyone
On Saturday (Record Store Day) my band Trash released our third single entitled Matter Of Time ...47 years after we released our second one!
We have applied to the Guinness Book Of Records as this being the longest gap between single releases - unless you know of a longer one?
You can see the promo video we made here [www.youtube.com] - Mott fans might recognise some of the references
You can buy a download of both tracks here [www.junodownload.com]
All feedback gratefully received!
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TRASH RELEASE NEW VINYL SINGLE MATTER OF TIME FOR RSD 2025
47 years after their last single, cult* rockers Trash are back!
To follow their 1978 single N-N-E-R-V-O-U-S, Trash have released a freshly-recorded song Matter Of Time as a vinyl 7” on April 12th 2025 (Record Store Day).
A-side of the single is Matter Of Time (Ballad Of Trash 13.07.24), B side is Matter Of Time (Tin And Tambourine version). The drive, power and catchiness of the A side is reminiscent of The Clash Give ‘Em Enough Rope era, whilst the more mellow B side has a Ronnie Lane vibe. Said Alan Mair of The Only Ones “great tune, vocals and lyrics, and the guitar solo is right up my street. And I like the acoustic version as well.”
Trash never achieved the success predicted by the pop pages of The Reading Chronicle, despite being signed to Polydor and being produced by the late Shel Talmy (Who, Kinks) and Nigel Gray (Police, Siouxsie). Guitarist and songwriter Mick Brophy has produced a song that sends out a message of hope to ageing rockers of all haircuts. Drummer Simon Butler-Smith had not played for the last 38 years (kit stored at his mums) but recorded his parts in a single take. Vocalist Simon Wright has spent the lost decades making chocolate and is inexplicably an adviser to the government on organic food.
The single was released on 7” vinyl by Rhythm And Blues Records. Label owner Nick Duckett has been a supporter of Trash since 1978, when he reviewed their appearance at his birthday party for the NME. Serial number of the single release is RANDB2024, available via Cargo. A digital download of the single is also be available.
For more information, review copies and hi-res photos of the band please email simon@onlyrockandroll.london
Full band info at www.onlyrockandroll.london/category/trash
*= Trash singles didn’t sell at the time but now go for £20 a pop. And the band has featured on Soul Jazz and Cherry Red punk compilations in the last couple of years.
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franzk
In 2024 MC5 released "Boys Who Play with Matches" single 54 years after "Back in the USA" (1970).
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GasLightStreet
How much longer will physical media continue?
Record labels are taking advantage of people buying vinyl albums that are poorly made/sound awful - but you get to hold it in your hand!!!
CD releases continue but vinyl gets the hype.
Streaming platforms continue to raise prices. How many people have cut the cord (cable TV) and have multiple TV apps that add up to and more than a cable bill!!??
The more content Netflix creates the higher their subscription gets: where does the subscription amount not justify creating movies and series?
It's beyond ridiculous. It's greed.
There seems to be a return of mind in regard to listening, and owning, music; an album. I know people that have pulled out their iPods to "stream" albums. "Streaming" is turning to Xerox, Kleenex and Coke.
Artists have given in to being on Spotify.
That needs to stop.
Spotify is not a good thing. Spotify is bad.
ABKCO is doing a specific version of OUT OF OUR HEADS for record store day. Who will buy it and actually listen to it?
Why is record stay day only once a year?
I suppose the ultimate grift, if that's applicable, would be ABKCO saying
Listen to the 2025 colored vinyl OUT OF OUR HEADS streaming here...
There are people that would believe such a thing.
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GasLightStreet
How much longer will physical media continue?
Record labels are taking advantage of people buying vinyl albums that are poorly made/sound awful - but you get to hold it in your hand!!!
CD releases continue but vinyl gets the hype.
Streaming platforms continue to raise prices. How many people have cut the cord (cable TV) and have multiple TV apps that add up to and more than a cable bill!!??
The more content Netflix creates the higher their subscription gets: where does the subscription amount not justify creating movies and series?
It's beyond ridiculous. It's greed.
There seems to be a return of mind in regard to listening, and owning, music; an album. I know people that have pulled out their iPods to "stream" albums. "Streaming" is turning to Xerox, Kleenex and Coke.
Artists have given in to being on Spotify.
That needs to stop.
Spotify is not a good thing. Spotify is bad.
ABKCO is doing a specific version of OUT OF OUR HEADS for record store day. Who will buy it and actually listen to it?
Why is record stay day only once a year?
I suppose the ultimate grift, if that's applicable, would be ABKCO saying
Listen to the 2025 colored vinyl OUT OF OUR HEADS streaming here...
There are people that would believe such a thing.
The bottom line here, is that it's all about the bottom line and that will never change.
The move here is from selling to renting. Companies would rather get you on a subscription model, than selling it outright. The reason is that with a subscription model they get regular, predictable monthly income. No wild swings in revenue.
You see this not only with music, ie spotify, amazon, apple, but obviously with the streaming services, and even software, ie Office, Photoshop and I'm sure others.
There are pros and cons with subscription. Less initial outlay but you probably pay more in the long run. Also, access to certain content is not guaranteed in the future if licencing changes.
There's not much that can be done about it, I have a free Spotify and Amazon streaming and that's good enough for me, I still primarily enjoy my vinyl and cd's but I'm part of the Gen X dinosaur generation. As you've opined, the future is in streaming and subscriptions, doesn't seem anything will change that.
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GasLightStreet
How much longer will physical media continue?
Record labels are taking advantage of people buying vinyl albums that are poorly made/sound awful - but you get to hold it in your hand!!!
CD releases continue but vinyl gets the hype.
Streaming platforms continue to raise prices. How many people have cut the cord (cable TV) and have multiple TV apps that add up to and more than a cable bill!!??
The more content Netflix creates the higher their subscription gets: where does the subscription amount not justify creating movies and series?
It's beyond ridiculous. It's greed.
There seems to be a return of mind in regard to listening, and owning, music; an album. I know people that have pulled out their iPods to "stream" albums. "Streaming" is turning to Xerox, Kleenex and Coke.
Artists have given in to being on Spotify.
That needs to stop.
Spotify is not a good thing. Spotify is bad.
ABKCO is doing a specific version of OUT OF OUR HEADS for record store day. Who will buy it and actually listen to it?
Why is record stay day only once a year?
I suppose the ultimate grift, if that's applicable, would be ABKCO saying
Listen to the 2025 colored vinyl OUT OF OUR HEADS streaming here...
There are people that would believe such a thing.
The bottom line here, is that it's all about the bottom line and that will never change.
The move here is from selling to renting. Companies would rather get you on a subscription model, than selling it outright. The reason is that with a subscription model they get regular, predictable monthly income. No wild swings in revenue.
You see this not only with music, ie spotify, amazon, apple, but obviously with the streaming services, and even software, ie Office, Photoshop and I'm sure others.
There are pros and cons with subscription. Less initial outlay but you probably pay more in the long run. Also, access to certain content is not guaranteed in the future if licencing changes.
There's not much that can be done about it, I have a free Spotify and Amazon streaming and that's good enough for me, I still primarily enjoy my vinyl and cd's but I'm part of the Gen X dinosaur generation. As you've opined, the future is in streaming and subscriptions, doesn't seem anything will change that.
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GasLightStreet
How much longer will physical media continue?
Record labels are taking advantage of people buying vinyl albums that are poorly made/sound awful - but you get to hold it in your hand!!!
CD releases continue but vinyl gets the hype.
Streaming platforms continue to raise prices. How many people have cut the cord (cable TV) and have multiple TV apps that add up to and more than a cable bill!!??
The more content Netflix creates the higher their subscription gets: where does the subscription amount not justify creating movies and series?
It's beyond ridiculous. It's greed.
There seems to be a return of mind in regard to listening, and owning, music; an album. I know people that have pulled out their iPods to "stream" albums. "Streaming" is turning to Xerox, Kleenex and Coke.
Artists have given in to being on Spotify.
That needs to stop.
Spotify is not a good thing. Spotify is bad.
ABKCO is doing a specific version of OUT OF OUR HEADS for record store day. Who will buy it and actually listen to it?
Why is record stay day only once a year?
I suppose the ultimate grift, if that's applicable, would be ABKCO saying
Listen to the 2025 colored vinyl OUT OF OUR HEADS streaming here...
There are people that would believe such a thing.
The bottom line here, is that it's all about the bottom line and that will never change.
The move here is from selling to renting. Companies would rather get you on a subscription model, than selling it outright. The reason is that with a subscription model they get regular, predictable monthly income. No wild swings in revenue.
You see this not only with music, ie spotify, amazon, apple, but obviously with the streaming services, and even software, ie Office, Photoshop and I'm sure others.
There are pros and cons with subscription. Less initial outlay but you probably pay more in the long run. Also, access to certain content is not guaranteed in the future if licencing changes.
There's not much that can be done about it, I have a free Spotify and Amazon streaming and that's good enough for me, I still primarily enjoy my vinyl and cd's but I'm part of the Gen X dinosaur generation. As you've opined, the future is in streaming and subscriptions, doesn't seem anything will change that.
I would think "the bottom line" has changed for legacy acts: the labels don't care if they lose money promoting a release because it's multi-tiered with various other things (hits comps, t-shirts). They certainly aren't making MONEY on legacy acts' new albums selling or streaming compared to whatever hits comps.
They spend A-Z in promotion for 2 weeks of streams at A, 4 weeks of streams at B and six months streams at C??? Polydor's EIGHTEEN MONTHS OF PROMOTION started in August 2023 with the phone advertisement and ended October 20, 2023 with the album and Mess It Up coming out.
That's only 3 months.
Excluding various reissues of the album.
Well respected acts don't get that kind of attention. Pearl Jam is a great example. Are they bordering on being a legacy act? I'm thinking no because only the same 3 songs get played on radio and none are past their first album (that I ever hear, anyway).
Pearl Jam fans will probably buy a copy, in whatever way, because, well, gen x is that way. Stones fans have a much wider base, age wise, so there's a huge discrepancy. Look at the success of BLUE AND LONESOME: it sold really well considering (approximately 2.5 million; apparently TIME WAITS FOR NO ONE sold beyond poorly - according to Doxa's 2019 Stones album sales that alludes to being world wide yet the numbers (not said), at the time, were US, it didn't make the list of the ranked 58 releases - I got JUMP BACK in 1993 in the US - and HONK wasn't out yet at the time of this list, apparently, which is now up to 69 million, barely above... oh my, someone would have a fit - Bon Jovi).
Aside from some diehards, who bought B&L?
Old people. "Oh it's The Rolling Stones as I knew them back in 1964!!!"
This is old but it gives a good bit of insite nearly ~ 10 years ago when streaming was really taking over before it all got really really really, really really really messed up for you:
While the former success (that's VOODOO they're talking about) isn’t translated into streaming figures, Bridges To Babylon appears to be enjoying a catalog appeal bigger than expected. Although they are nowhere near their 60s astronomical hits, their top 2 hits since 1983 to date belong to this album.
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LeonidP
I finally listened to the Keith/Winos, Live 3-10-22 ... fantastic sound and 3 great choices of songs ... 999, You Got the Silver, Before They Make Me Run.
I'm pretty sure that Keith / Winos never did You Got The Silver before this event, and possibly not BTMMR either
...all should get this one - very cool red vinyl with a cool shadowy Keith etching on the b-side!
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LeonidP
I finally listened to the Keith/Winos, Live 3-10-22 ... fantastic sound and 3 great choices of songs ... 999, You Got the Silver, Before They Make Me Run.
I'm pretty sure that Keith / Winos never did You Got The Silver before this event, and possibly not BTMMR either
...all should get this one - very cool red vinyl with a cool shadowy Keith etching on the b-side!
You got the sliver: no, they didn't. I think it was never played live before the No Security Tour in 1999, but BTMMR he did in 1992 more than once it's on all the bootlegs like Bremen, Argentinia etc.
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snoopy2
The RSD Electric Ladyland/ Ronnie is pretty decent, still seeing copies online at cost from indie record-stores who don’t play the “let’s triple the price” eBay game.. I dig Breathe
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jackflash27
Is that different from the included 12x5 copy of the 'In Mono Box'?
RSD 2025: "This reissue has been mastered directly from the original first-generation analog mono album master tape by Carl Rowatti at Trutone Mastering using an all-analog chain from a Studer A80 tape machine to a Neumann SP-77 soundboard to a Neumann VMS-70 cutting lathe" - [RecordStoreDay.com] . The 2016 Mono-Box was digitally mastered by Bob Ludwig - [TheAudiophileMan.com] .
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rogerriffin
it says Copyright 2025 - 2016 ...have some doubts about if it has new sound really.
But in 2016 the analog tapes were transferred to digital first while the 2025 OOOH was transferred directly from analog tape to lacquer. See the posts above.
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keefmick
I got caught up in the thrill of the hunt as I do each year and buy stuff I don’t really need. This year I got the Keith live and Ramones live and Judas Priest live. I guess it was a “live” year for me. For those who don’t know, and I didn’t, there is an official RSD marketplace for items that didn’t sell out. It’s actually quite good. I think it’s rsdmrkt.com. As of now they still have the new Keith release from yesterday.
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skytrench
Sorry if this has been explained before, but is RSD Electric Ladyland/ Ronnie the same as Live and Eclectic, besides the remastering ?