Tell Me :  Talk
Talk about your favorite band. 

Previous page Next page First page IORR home

For information about how to use this forum please check out forum help and policies.

Goto Page: Previous1234
Current Page: 4 of 4
Re: RIP Marianne Faithfull
Posted by: Bliss ()
Date: January 31, 2025 21:49

She suffered incredibly - a heart attack, breast cancer, an infection following a hip replacement, and latterly, emphysema. On stage, she was often seated. She fought bravely, and I hope she is now at peace.

Re: RIP Marianne Faithfull
Posted by: TravellinMan ()
Date: January 31, 2025 22:01

Lightnin Hopkins
Ain't It Lonesome in your home when all your good friends are gone.

[youtu.be]

Re: RIP Marianne Faithfull
Posted by: colonial ()
Date: February 1, 2025 04:29

I've many fond memories of Marianne, a very cool lady

--------------
ColonialstoneNZ
--------------

Re: RIP Marianne Faithfull
Posted by: roundnround ()
Date: February 1, 2025 06:14

Sing Me Back Home... Marianne Faithfull with Keith Richards




Re: RIP Marianne Faithfull
Posted by: witterings ()
Date: February 2, 2025 01:16

I hope Marianne and Anita will find each other, somewhere over the Rainbow!
Thanks for all the beauty things, you gave us! Will miss you girls!



It`s nice to be here, .....



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2025-02-02 01:22 by witterings.

Re: RIP Marianne Faithfull
Posted by: babyblue ()
Date: February 2, 2025 02:35

Very sad news. I will miss her. My condolences to Mick, her family, devoted fans & friends. Rip til we meet again.

Re: RIP Marianne Faithfull
Posted by: Glimmerest ()
Date: February 2, 2025 04:36



Found this. Makes you think about what could have been. Seems like at that point they thought they were going to be together forever, even if they both were playing the part of rebelious anti-marriage types. Based on what I've read in several books Mick did want to marry Marianne.



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2025-02-02 04:38 by Glimmerest.

Re: RIP Marianne Faithfull
Posted by: tumbled ()
Date: February 3, 2025 01:06

A sadness that pierces the heart.

Re: RIP Marianne Faithfull
Date: February 3, 2025 17:18

Marianne Faithfull's Survival Tactics

The singer, who cleverly turned her stumbles into a mythical career, would have been overwhelmed by so much Kyrie eleison.

Diego A. Manrique
February 3, 2025 - 05:34 CET

Let's see... how to explain it without offending anyone? It's impossible to pinpoint details when death bestows that final halo of sainthood, aside from the conventional notion that considers it "bad manners" to point out inconsistencies in official biographies. I suspect that Marianne Faithfull wouldn't have shared such prejudices. She had a sharp tongue and, in truth, was a tremendous snob. During a visit to Madrid, staying in a luxury suite, she was outraged to learn that David Beckham had once lived in the same hotel, perhaps even the same room: "Beckham, the footballer? How awful. If it had been Beckett, the playwright..."


She approached her career with a certain frivolity. On another visit to Spain, she cut short her recital at a theater. Force majeure? No, she was simply in a hurry to attend the after-party of her friends from the band Blur, who were playing at a large venue that same night. Too often, her habits and social agenda took precedence over her professional commitments. When she was rediscovered as a powerful supporting actress in the 1990s, it was conveniently overlooked that in earlier decades, she had explicitly rejected that profession. In the '60s and early '70s, Marianne did theater and television but generally refused leading roles in films that required weeks or months of filming away from her usual circle.

It was easier for Marianne to stand out as a singer. As soon as she appeared on the pop scene in London, Andrew Loog Oldham captured her with his characteristic bluntness: "An angel with big tits." The Rolling Stones' manager knew how to craft her a compelling narrative—connections to the Austro-Hungarian aristocracy and Leopold von Sacher-Masoch, convent education, early marriage, a virginal folk singer... all abandoned for Mick Jagger. A relationship that would forever define Faithfull’s image. In reality, her personal life was far more complex: affairs with celebrities, abortions, suicide attempts, bitter experiences. And a fundamental contradiction: the reputation of being a promiscuous creature, when in fact, she later admitted that she had spent decades intimidated by sexuality. She once recalled flirting with Bob Dylan but backing out at the last moment.

Marianne’s 1970s were mythologized by her biographer, David Dalton, with full complicity from the protagonist. Her time as a homeless person and squatter in Soho or Chelsea was exaggerated. A highly effective safety net was always in place to protect her—for instance, enrolling her in the National Health Service’s addiction program, which granted her free access to high-quality heroin. However, she refused to sign up for Britain's unemployment benefits; some see this as a gesture of patrician arrogance, though perhaps she was simply receiving income from albums (Masques, Rich Kid Blues, Dreamin’ My Dreams, Faithless) and films made during those years.

Mick Jagger was not one of her benefactors, unlike Chris Blackwell. The founder of Island Records signed her in 1978, subsidizing her until the release of the brutal Broken English. Blackwell knew how to handle difficult artists and excused Marianne’s tendency toward turbulent relationships with men who meddled in her music and career (one of them, François Ravard, even co-authored a second “autobiography” of the diva). As a consequence, she shifted between residences in the United States, Ireland, and continental Europe; London was not among her favorite places ("too many paparazzi"), despite the fact that her half-brother, her only son Nicholas, and her grandchildren lived there.
Mercury


She eventually returned to the British capital, where she formed a duo with another fiery satellite expelled from the Stones' orbit, Anita Pallenberg. According to Marianne, they were "fabulous beasts" ready to intimidate. Adored by hip society, she demanded limousines for transportation and insisted on being treated like a baroness ("just like my mother"), perhaps as an antidote to her fear of poverty.

An exaggerated fear—she owned real estate in several major cities. Contrary to her reputation as a dilettante, she worked hard: she released over a dozen albums after being rescued by Chris Blackwell, demonstrating a keen instinct for collaborators. And her performance schedule was reasonably intense, despite her illnesses and accidents. Moreover, she gave great interviews, often including a jab at Mick Jagger. And, not coincidentally, she would then proceed to praise Keith Richards, who played a key role in helping her reclaim credit for Sister Morphine. She enjoyed telling the story, laughing: "My love affairs always leave a trail."


source [elpais.com]

Re: RIP Marianne Faithfull
Posted by: steffialicia ()
Date: February 4, 2025 03:49

Quote
emotionalbarbecue
Marianne Faithfull's Survival Tactics

The singer, who cleverly turned her stumbles into a mythical career, would have been overwhelmed by so much Kyrie eleison.

Diego A. Manrique
February 3, 2025 - 05:34 CET

Let's see... how to explain it without offending anyone? It's impossible to pinpoint details when death bestows that final halo of sainthood, aside from the conventional notion that considers it "bad manners" to point out inconsistencies in official biographies. I suspect that Marianne Faithfull wouldn't have shared such prejudices. She had a sharp tongue and, in truth, was a tremendous snob. During a visit to Madrid, staying in a luxury suite, she was outraged to learn that David Beckham had once lived in the same hotel, perhaps even the same room: "Beckham, the footballer? How awful. If it had been Beckett, the playwright..."


She approached her career with a certain frivolity. On another visit to Spain, she cut short her recital at a theater. Force majeure? No, she was simply in a hurry to attend the after-party of her friends from the band Blur, who were playing at a large venue that same night. Too often, her habits and social agenda took precedence over her professional commitments. When she was rediscovered as a powerful supporting actress in the 1990s, it was conveniently overlooked that in earlier decades, she had explicitly rejected that profession. In the '60s and early '70s, Marianne did theater and television but generally refused leading roles in films that required weeks or months of filming away from her usual circle.

It was easier for Marianne to stand out as a singer. As soon as she appeared on the pop scene in London, Andrew Loog Oldham captured her with his characteristic bluntness: "An angel with big tits." The Rolling Stones' manager knew how to craft her a compelling narrative—connections to the Austro-Hungarian aristocracy and Leopold von Sacher-Masoch, convent education, early marriage, a virginal folk singer... all abandoned for Mick Jagger. A relationship that would forever define Faithfull’s image. In reality, her personal life was far more complex: affairs with celebrities, abortions, suicide attempts, bitter experiences. And a fundamental contradiction: the reputation of being a promiscuous creature, when in fact, she later admitted that she had spent decades intimidated by sexuality. She once recalled flirting with Bob Dylan but backing out at the last moment.

Marianne’s 1970s were mythologized by her biographer, David Dalton, with full complicity from the protagonist. Her time as a homeless person and squatter in Soho or Chelsea was exaggerated. A highly effective safety net was always in place to protect her—for instance, enrolling her in the National Health Service’s addiction program, which granted her free access to high-quality heroin. However, she refused to sign up for Britain's unemployment benefits; some see this as a gesture of patrician arrogance, though perhaps she was simply receiving income from albums (Masques, Rich Kid Blues, Dreamin’ My Dreams, Faithless) and films made during those years.

Mick Jagger was not one of her benefactors, unlike Chris Blackwell. The founder of Island Records signed her in 1978, subsidizing her until the release of the brutal Broken English. Blackwell knew how to handle difficult artists and excused Marianne’s tendency toward turbulent relationships with men who meddled in her music and career (one of them, François Ravard, even co-authored a second “autobiography” of the diva). As a consequence, she shifted between residences in the United States, Ireland, and continental Europe; London was not among her favorite places ("too many paparazzi"), despite the fact that her half-brother, her only son Nicholas, and her grandchildren lived there.
Mercury


She eventually returned to the British capital, where she formed a duo with another fiery satellite expelled from the Stones' orbit, Anita Pallenberg. According to Marianne, they were "fabulous beasts" ready to intimidate. Adored by hip society, she demanded limousines for transportation and insisted on being treated like a baroness ("just like my mother"), perhaps as an antidote to her fear of poverty.

An exaggerated fear—she owned real estate in several major cities. Contrary to her reputation as a dilettante, she worked hard: she released over a dozen albums after being rescued by Chris Blackwell, demonstrating a keen instinct for collaborators. And her performance schedule was reasonably intense, despite her illnesses and accidents. Moreover, she gave great interviews, often including a jab at Mick Jagger. And, not coincidentally, she would then proceed to praise Keith Richards, who played a key role in helping her reclaim credit for Sister Morphine. She enjoyed telling the story, laughing: "My love affairs always leave a trail."


source [elpais.com]

I just ordered Faithfull. This implies I should take it with a grain of salt.

Re: RIP Marianne Faithfull
Date: February 4, 2025 04:15

Maryann truly inspired me to not give up on a drug addict. I saw her in NYC at City Winery about 15 years ago. I liked her because she talked between songs and gave some background. She said it only took one person's extended hand to pull her up out of her addiction. I decided right then and there to be that person for someone I already gave up on, and it was the best thing I ever did to give a second chance to someone who turned their life around. Marianne lived a life of ups and downs. But if it wasn't for that one person, she would be dead. That person was her mother.

Re: RIP Marianne Faithfull
Posted by: Bliss ()
Date: February 4, 2025 18:52

Thank you, Barbecue, for that very interesting article. I think it's wrong to speak ill of the dead; after all, they can't defend themselves. But I've always seen Mick, Keith, Brian, Marianne, and Anita as complex human beings, replete with glaring character flaws as well as their prodigious gifts. Marianne and Anita were both narcissistic drama queens and emotional vampires who could suck all the energy out of a room and and those in their orbit. I read that Mick ended it with Marianne because a higher-up in the Stones.Inc - maybe Les Perrin, expressed concern about her heroin use. Mick was, is and always will be a success-focused workhorse, and that was it for Marianne.

I personally never liked her music and never bought any of her albums. But she was a sensitive, intelligent, well-educated woman who was the inspiration and impetus for some of the best music of the 20th century, and I applaud her for being that.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2025-02-05 07:21 by Bliss.

Re: RIP Marianne Faithfull
Posted by: Koen ()
Date: February 4, 2025 21:51

Quote
Bliss
I think it's wrong to speak ill of the dad; after all, they can't defend themselves.

Typo of the year smoking smiley

Re: RIP Marianne Faithfull
Posted by: SomeTorontoGirl ()
Date: February 4, 2025 23:27

From Rufus Wainwright, Facebook:

There was never anyone like her, and there never will be. There was a strange dichotomy between this will-o-the-wisp flowery beauty and this hard, gnarly rock’n’roll figure. She had these two strains, which were very strong, and yet kind of complete opposites.

She was a fan of my mother, of the McGarrigle sisters, and occasionally she would come to their shows. I met her backstage when I was a little kid. But it was really through Hal Willner that I got to know her: he would do tribute shows, to Harry Smith or Leonard Cohen, and she would show up. I always loved her album Broken English, with [from The Ballad of Lucy Jordan] “She realised she’d never ride/Through Paris in a sports car …” But when she did a Kurt Weill tribute with Hal, and sang the Ballad of the Soldier’s Wife, that’s when she really clicked.

And then it really gelled when I started hanging out with Carrie Fisher, because Marianne and her were very close. I had several wild evenings seated between them. They were completely classic, original legends, who seemed to live in a universe all their own, and it was very decadent, incredibly funny and totally rock’n’roll. One of the craziest times was when I spent a week partying with Marianne and my mother. I’m won't get into too many details – it was quite intense. I think I went to rehab two weeks later. We talked about music, jokes, sex, the craziness of life.

Marianne struggled with addiction for many years, and she never quite won that battle. It was always haunting her. But the main thing about her, putting the drugs aside, is that she was a great fan of music. She was really affected by a wonderful song or brilliant performance. She clocked pretty early on that I was on a fairly good track, and she really was excited for me. And it was when she came to me and said: “Rufus, you’ve really made it”, that I knew that I had. I knew there wasn’t a modicum of bullshit in her assessments in general.

That’s what I most cherish about the relationship with her: when she was clear-eyed, and engaged artistically, she was such a rich judge of depth and meaning, and the true brilliance of what music can be. There was nothing cheap about her whatsoever.


Re: RIP Marianne Faithfull
Posted by: Bliss ()
Date: February 5, 2025 07:23

Sorry for typo! eye popping smiley



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2025-02-05 07:23 by Bliss.

Re: RIP Marianne Faithfull
Posted by: cyclist ()
Date: February 5, 2025 09:02

She released some tremendous tremendous albums, especially starting in the '90s through the aughts.

Re: RIP Marianne Faithfull
Posted by: runaway ()
Date: February 5, 2025 15:23

The Guardian:
“Cave called her: “A wild woman, bold, brilliant and beautiful. We have lost not just a fiercely unique talent, but the stored knowledge of a generation. Through her extraordinary, defiant and lived in voice, Marianne brought her own maverick truth to every song she sang, and every story she spoke. We loved her very much.”

Ellis said: “I thought you’d bury us all, gorgeous. You were revolutionary. I love you, Marianne.”

Re: RIP Marianne Faithfull
Date: February 5, 2025 16:30

Quote
Bliss
Sorry for typo! eye popping smiley

Nothing to be sorry about - gave me a good laugh! grinning smiley

Re: RIP Marianne Faithfull
Posted by: TornAndFried ()
Date: February 5, 2025 19:30

Short article about Marianne in Vogue.

[www.vogue.com]



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2025-02-05 19:44 by TornAndFried.

Re: RIP Marianne Faithfull
Posted by: treaclefingers ()
Date: February 6, 2025 16:43

Quote
TornAndFried
Short article about Marianne in Vogue.

[www.vogue.com]

Nice homage.

Re: RIP Marianne Faithfull
Posted by: TornAndFried ()
Date: February 9, 2025 11:13

Audio interview from The Telegraph in 1994

[www.telegraph.co.uk]

Goto Page: Previous1234
Current Page: 4 of 4


Sorry, only registered users may post in this forum.

Online Users

Guests: 1714
Record Number of Users: 206 on June 1, 2022 23:50
Record Number of Guests: 9627 on January 2, 2024 23:10

Previous page Next page First page IORR home