Its a good one!

Not an artist I'm very familiar with beyond knowing that his brother did a wrird album based on Hubbard's sci-fi books, but it's always nice to watch a rock docummentary.

He did a lot of good Rolling Stones songs

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Hyde Park69, The Rolling Stones opened with the song ‘I’m Yours and I’m Hers

Great! Had not seen that one.

Great! Had not seen that one.

A singular guitar talent. A giant, who would have been a household name were it not for a most unfortunate choice of manager. Steve Paul managed him from 1968 to 1984. Paul brought Winter to the fore and scored him what was then the biggest signing bonus ever with Columbia. But Paul would not allow Winter's set at Woodstock to appear in what became the biggest rock and roll concert movie of its time. (In contrast, a San Francisco guitarist that nobody on the East coast ever heard of appeared in the movie, and we're still talking about Santana to this day.)

Teddy Slatus managed Johnny from 1984 to 2005. He may be to Johnny Winter what Colonel Parker was to Elvis. Many sad injustices were allegedly served upon Winter during that time. Johnny's book says more about all of that. [www.alligator.com]

Yes, his choice to go blues purist didn't help his commercial success. But he did try to make a run at it after seeing fellow Texas bluesmen ZZ Top and Stevie Ray Vaughan strike it big on a pedestal that should have been all his. But by then he was too ravaged by addiction and too difficult to work with the same people that boosted ZZT to worldwide acclaim.

In the right manager's hands, there is no reason we wouldn't be mentioning Johhny Winter's name today in the same breath as Jimi Hendrix's. He was that unique and unrivaled.



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Many people who have heard Johnny Winter for the first time and ever intended to learn the guitar will have thought to themselves: Leave it, you'll never be able to play like that. There is no way to master this instrument anywhere near as well as Johnny. He also had a blues feel that was absolutely unique (It's My Own Fault on Johnny Winter And Live). I would have liked the lists of the best guitarists of all time to include Johnny Winter in the top three. But inexplicably, he is largely only known to a specialised audience. Perhaps this has something to do with the fact that he interpreted the concept of blues in a very purist way.

They wrote Silver Train for him.

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They wrote Silver Train for him.

They didn't even write it for themselves

According to Mick, it was just a jam that they could use for a song. They let Johnny cover it, though.

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dadrob
They wrote Silver Train for him.

They didn't even write it for themselves

According to Mick, it was just a jam that they could use for a song. They let Johnny cover it, though.

Johnny's version of "Silver Train" is far better than the Stones' version

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Many people who have heard Johnny Winter for the first time and ever intended to learn the guitar will have thought to themselves: Leave it, you'll never be able to play like that. There is no way to master this instrument anywhere near as well as Johnny. He also had a blues feel that was absolutely unique (It's My Own Fault on Johnny Winter And Live). I would have liked the lists of the best guitarists of all time to include Johnny Winter in the top three. But inexplicably, he is largely only known to a specialised audience. Perhaps this has something to do with the fact that he interpreted the concept of blues in a very purist way.

Great assessment and spot on RobertJohnson. A buddy of mine in high school introduced me to Winter's music, and his guitar playing and persona intrigued me. I've always felt that Winter was an underrated guitar player.



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Many people who have heard Johnny Winter for the first time and ever intended to learn the guitar will have thought to themselves: Leave it, you'll never be able to play like that. There is no way to master this instrument anywhere near as well as Johnny. He also had a blues feel that was absolutely unique (It's My Own Fault on Johnny Winter And Live). I would have liked the lists of the best guitarists of all time to include Johnny Winter in the top three. But inexplicably, he is largely only known to a specialised audience. Perhaps this has something to do with the fact that he interpreted the concept of blues in a very purist way.

Amen, RobertJohnson. From that same live album, here is Johnny Winter's take on JJF:

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The last time I saw Johhny Winter, he put up a band of blues pioneers that included Muddy Waters, James Cotton and Pinetop Perkins, in support of "Hard Again." Johnny Winter produced that Grammy Award winning comeback album for Muddy Waters and introduced Muddy to a whole new generation of music fans, four years before the Stones crashed Muddy's set at the Checkerboard in Chicago.

He had it all, including power trio rock chops like this:

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Here is the link to the legendary Rockpalast performance from 1979 in the Grugahalle in Essen. I don't know if the link works in all regions or is blocked in countries other than Germany.

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Many people who have heard Johnny Winter for the first time and ever intended to learn the guitar will have thought to themselves: Leave it, you'll never be able to play like that. There is no way to master this instrument anywhere near as well as Johnny. He also had a blues feel that was absolutely unique (It's My Own Fault on Johnny Winter And Live). I would have liked the lists of the best guitarists of all time to include Johnny Winter in the top three. But inexplicably, he is largely only known to a specialised audience. Perhaps this has something to do with the fact that he interpreted the concept of blues in a very purist way.

Amen, RobertJohnson. From that same live album, here is Johnny Winter's take on JJF:

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The last time I saw Johhny Winter, he put up a band of blues pioneers that included Muddy Waters, James Cotton and Pinetop Perkins, in support of "Hard Again." Johnny Winter produced that Grammy Award winning comeback album for Muddy Waters and introduced Muddy to a whole new generation of music fans, four years before the Stones crashed Muddy's set at the Checkerboard in Chicago.

He had it all, including power trio rock chops like this:

[youtu.be]

That's correct. However, the Stones played with Muddy round the same time as Johnny first - 1978