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Re: It's 2025: Your top ten (or even 20!) favorite Stones live albums
Posted by: Nankstone ()
Date: January 8, 2025 18:31

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DandelionPowderman
Glastonbury is not officially released as a live album. That's one of the reasons.

Oh sorry, I thought the japanese release of Glastonbury was official, but Discogs says that it is also unofficial.
By the way, I thought that otherwise it would be number 9 in your list, because that is still missing winking smiley

OK, here is my new list without Glastonbury.

Charlie Is My Darling (1965) - (9)
GYYYO (1969) - (3)
Brussel (1973) - (1)
Mocambo (1977) - (2)
Hampton (1981) - (7)
Tokio Dome (1990) - (8)
Totally Stripped (1995) - (5)
Four Flicks (2003) - (4)
Fonda (2015) - (6)
Hackney Diamonds Live (2023) - (10)



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Re: It's 2025: Your top ten (or even 20!) favorite Stones live albums
Posted by: umakmehrd ()
Date: January 8, 2025 20:11

I find it crazy some of the lists omit Get yer Ya's Ya's out...


"I've lost a button on me trousers"

Re: It's 2025: Your top ten (or even 20!) favorite Stones live albums
Posted by: GasLightStreet ()
Date: January 8, 2025 20:35

1. Get Yer Ya-Ya's Out!
2. El Mocambo
3. Live In Texas
4. Brussels Affair
5. Hampton
6. San Jose 1999
7. Totally Stripped - Paris 1995
8. Still Life
10. No Security

Unfortunately so many have the same songs. The two Bridges are generally good but I only listen to certain songs, I will not listen to Miss You, JJF post 1969, Start Me Up post-1989 etc. HTW was great through 1981-82. It's bizarre how well they play Tumbling Dice or Monkey Man, Rambler quite a few others yet they just carpet bomb JJF, Miss You, Brown Sugar. There's been decent performances of Start Me Up but Ronnie abandons playing his guitar for the solo. What he did 1989-90 was awesome but terrible since.

Perhaps that's why the earlier live albums that were selective have more of an impact even though some are too long (Flashpoint, Live Licks, Love You Live) where only certain songs make a best of/favorite live play list.

Dancing With Mr D from the Honk live album is the only track on that that's 1. good 2. interesting 3. worth listening to

Etc.

Re: It's 2025: Your top ten (or even 20!) favorite Stones live albums
Posted by: MadMax ()
Date: January 8, 2025 20:52

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GasLightStreet
1. Get Yer Ya-Ya's Out!
2. El Mocambo
3. Live In Texas
4. Brussels Affair
5. Hampton
6. San Jose 1999
7. Totally Stripped - Paris 1995
8. Still Life
10. No Security

Unfortunately so many have the same songs. The two Bridges are generally good but I only listen to certain songs, I will not listen to Miss You, JJF post 1969, Start Me Up post-1989 etc. HTW was great through 1981-82. It's bizarre how well they play Tumbling Dice or Monkey Man, Rambler quite a few others yet they just carpet bomb JJF, Miss You, Brown Sugar. There's been decent performances of Start Me Up but Ronnie abandons playing his guitar for the solo. What he did 1989-90 was awesome but terrible since.

Perhaps that's why the earlier live albums that were selective have more of an impact even though some are too long (Flashpoint, Live Licks, Love You Live) where only certain songs make a best of/favorite live play list.

Dancing With Mr D from the Honk live album is the only track on that that's 1. good 2. interesting 3. worth listening to

Etc.

GLS, waddya think about SMU from BA in '98? I think it's MINDBLOWING and extremely good smileys with beer



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Re: It's 2025: Your top ten (or even 20!) favorite Stones live albums
Posted by: MadMax ()
Date: January 8, 2025 20:55

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umakmehrd
I find it crazy some of the lists omit Get yer Ya's Ya's out...


"I've lost a button on me trousers"

Well IMHO I don't think Charlie's drumming is anything close to what it later became in the 70's. In '72 and onwards he is just AMAZING.

Re: It's 2025: Your top ten (or even 20!) favorite Stones live albums
Posted by: GasLightStreet ()
Date: January 8, 2025 21:14

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MadMax
GLS, waddya think about SMU from BA in '98? I think it's MINDBLOWING and extremely good smileys with beer

The band is on fire but Ronnie... ha ha, not terrible, heard worse, but not worth listening to. He played that solo in various interesting and musical ways in 1989-90. He hasn't since. He's just strangling his guitar.

Re: It's 2025: Your top ten (or even 20!) favorite Stones live albums
Date: January 9, 2025 11:37

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Nankstone
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DandelionPowderman
Glastonbury is not officially released as a live album. That's one of the reasons.

Oh sorry, I thought the japanese release of Glastonbury was official, but Discogs says that it is also unofficial.
By the way, I thought that otherwise it would be number 9 in your list, because that is still missing winking smiley

OK, here is my new list without Glastonbury.

Charlie Is My Darling (1965) - (9)
GYYYO (1969) - (3)
Brussel (1973) - (1)
Mocambo (1977) - (2)
Hampton (1981) - (7)
Tokio Dome (1990) - (8)
Totally Stripped (1995) - (5)
Four Flicks (2003) - (4)
Fonda (2015) - (6)
Hackney Diamonds Live (2023) - (10)

Thanks! I added number 9 now smiling smiley

Re: It's 2025: Your top ten (or even 20!) favorite Stones live albums
Posted by: Sighunt ()
Date: January 9, 2025 14:19

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umakmehrd
I find it crazy some of the lists omit Get yer Ya's Ya's out...


"I've lost a button on me trousers"

In looking at people's posts, the majority of folks did put Ya Yas on their lists, but not everybody ranked it near the top. My own personal opinion, out of the many live releases the Stones have bestowed upon us, I continually rank it as their single best live release.

Over the years, however, (thanks to the advent of bootleg tapes) I have been more critical of it. At the time of it's original release in 1970, just like a lot other albums, it was edited because albums were typically around 22 minutes a side due to limitations of the vinyl format. Even though we got the bonus tracks on the 40th anniversary in 2009, I think it would have been a better listening experience had it originally been released as an entire concert- spanning over a two album set in its correct running order. And then any room left over on said release would feature the supporting artists. From what I read somewhere, per Jagger's intention, he wanted to include the supporting artists on the original release (the music of Turner & King later ended up on the 40th anniversary box). And then there is the issue of all of the overdubs, which is a discussion for another time lol....



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Re: It's 2025: Your top ten (or even 20!) favorite Stones live albums
Posted by: Spud ()
Date: January 9, 2025 14:43

..and it's been discussed a lot grinning smiley

The bottom line however is that Ya Yas isn't quite as mucked about with as many folks think.

Re: Your top ten (or even 20!) favorite Stones live albums
Posted by: Big Al ()
Date: January 9, 2025 16:31

Get Yer Ya’Yas Out is a special album to me. I purchased it relatively early on in my fandom, knowing very little of Mick Taylor, or these amazing guitar-skills that I had read about. To say that his soloing on Sympathy For The Devil didn’t knock me sideways would be an understatement; especially considering that I, at first, mistook Keith’s solo for Taylor’s! I was thinking: ‘hey, this Mick Taylor is pretty good… woah, hang-on, was that Keith? And then: ‘Bloody hell, Taylor is a friggin’ GOD’ You can imagine my subsequent reaction after finally getting to hear Mick Taylor’s soloing on Brussels Affair! Think my former reaction, but on steroids.

Re: Your top ten (or even 20!) favorite Stones live albums
Posted by: Sighunt ()
Date: January 9, 2025 17:26

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Big Al
Get Yer Ya’Yas Out is a special album to me. I purchased it relatively early on in my fandom, knowing very little of Mick Taylor, or these amazing guitar-skills that I had read about. To say that his soloing on Sympathy For The Devil didn’t knock me sideways would be an understatement; especially considering that I, at first, mistook Keith’s solo for Taylor’s! I was thinking: ‘hey, this Mick Taylor is pretty good… woah, hang-on, was that Keith? And then: ‘Bloody hell, Taylor is a friggin’ GOD’ You can imagine my subsequent reaction after finally getting to hear Mick Taylor’s soloing on Brussels Affair! Think my former reaction, but on steroids.

I have to say, aside from my aforementioned criticisms of Ya Yas, hearing those live versions of Sympathy for the Devil and Midnight Rambler for the first time on my turntable knocked me out!

But just as much as I still enjoy that record even today, I hadn't felt that passionate about a Stones live record for several years until they finally got around to releasing another of what I would consider an essential holy grail item: the El Mocambo set (why the hell did they wait so long to release it?). Compared to Ya Yas, I love the intimacy of it. I think the Stones are in their element in this type of small venue setting. In addition to the fan favorites, we get treated to some great rarities and blues covers that you don't ordinarily get from the Stones. IMHO, this is really the record that should have been released, as it would have been very unique for them at the time, instead of playing it safe with Love You Live. I would argue that it may have enhanced their legacy, rather than viewing it as a marking time/cashing in album.



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Re: Your top ten (or even 20!) favorite Stones live albums
Posted by: treaclefingers ()
Date: January 10, 2025 16:46

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Sighunt
Quote
Big Al
Get Yer Ya’Yas Out is a special album to me. I purchased it relatively early on in my fandom, knowing very little of Mick Taylor, or these amazing guitar-skills that I had read about. To say that his soloing on Sympathy For The Devil didn’t knock me sideways would be an understatement; especially considering that I, at first, mistook Keith’s solo for Taylor’s! I was thinking: ‘hey, this Mick Taylor is pretty good… woah, hang-on, was that Keith? And then: ‘Bloody hell, Taylor is a friggin’ GOD’ You can imagine my subsequent reaction after finally getting to hear Mick Taylor’s soloing on Brussels Affair! Think my former reaction, but on steroids.

I have to say, aside from my aforementioned criticisms of Ya Yas, hearing those live versions of Sympathy for the Devil and Midnight Rambler for the first time on my turntable knocked me out!

But just as much as I still enjoy that record even today, I hadn't felt that passionate about a Stones live record for several years until they finally got around to releasing another of what I would consider an essential holy grail item: the El Mocambo set (why the hell did they wait so long to release it?). Compared to Ya Yas, I love the intimacy of it. I think the Stones are in their element in this type of small venue setting. In addition to the fan favorites, we get treated to some great rarities and blues covers that you don't ordinarily get from the Stones. IMHO, this is really the record that should have been released, as it would have been very unique for them at the time, instead of playing it safe with Love You Live. I would argue that it may have enhanced their legacy, rather than viewing it as a marking time/cashing in album.

While I generally have felt the band has made great decisions along the way, Hackney the latest example, they haven't been perfect.

Not releasing El Mocambo in 1977 instead of LYL means that from a historical perspective at least, it will never be given the credit it is due. They are without peer on El Mocambo and it would have been the perfect live release in 1977.

Re: Your top ten (or even 20!) favorite Stones live albums
Posted by: Glimmerest ()
Date: January 10, 2025 16:47

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treaclefingers
Quote
Sighunt
Quote
Big Al
Get Yer Ya’Yas Out is a special album to me. I purchased it relatively early on in my fandom, knowing very little of Mick Taylor, or these amazing guitar-skills that I had read about. To say that his soloing on Sympathy For The Devil didn’t knock me sideways would be an understatement; especially considering that I, at first, mistook Keith’s solo for Taylor’s! I was thinking: ‘hey, this Mick Taylor is pretty good… woah, hang-on, was that Keith? And then: ‘Bloody hell, Taylor is a friggin’ GOD’ You can imagine my subsequent reaction after finally getting to hear Mick Taylor’s soloing on Brussels Affair! Think my former reaction, but on steroids.

I have to say, aside from my aforementioned criticisms of Ya Yas, hearing those live versions of Sympathy for the Devil and Midnight Rambler for the first time on my turntable knocked me out!

But just as much as I still enjoy that record even today, I hadn't felt that passionate about a Stones live record for several years until they finally got around to releasing another of what I would consider an essential holy grail item: the El Mocambo set (why the hell did they wait so long to release it?). Compared to Ya Yas, I love the intimacy of it. I think the Stones are in their element in this type of small venue setting. In addition to the fan favorites, we get treated to some great rarities and blues covers that you don't ordinarily get from the Stones. IMHO, this is really the record that should have been released, as it would have been very unique for them at the time, instead of playing it safe with Love You Live. I would argue that it may have enhanced their legacy, rather than viewing it as a marking time/cashing in album.

While I generally have felt the band has made great decisions along the way, Hackney the latest example, they haven't been perfect.

Not releasing El Mocambo in 1977 instead of LYL means that from a historical perspective at least, it will never be given the credit it is due. They are without peer on El Mocambo and it would have been the perfect live release in 1977.

Personally I will never understand not releasing something that's been filmed.

Re: Your top ten (or even 20!) favorite Stones live albums
Posted by: Send It To me ()
Date: January 10, 2025 17:06

I don't know about a top ten, but:

Most underrated: No Security

Most overrated: LYL

Best Keith: Tokyo Dome '90

Best band overall: Stripped Paris '95

Best capture of a moment in time/mood: Still Life

Most "important" historically: Ya-yas

Best song selection: Live Licks

Most Christina Aguilera: Shine a Light

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