could someone who has the super deluxe cd boxset scan the cd sleeves and post them here?

all i can find are low rez distant images of the them and would like to have some high rez digital copies of them for ocd reasons

thanks

I hadn't listened to B&B from start to finish in a long time and now realize except for a couple of tunes, it really comes off as an album of outtakes and B-sides.

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6 unreleased songs on Exile in 2010
11 unreleased songs on SG in 2011 (So Young was released in 1994)
3 unreleased songs on GHS in 2020
8 unreleased songs on TY in 2021
2 unreleased songs on B&B in 2025

That's 30 unreleased songs from 1970-1980 released during the last 15 years (2010-2025)

+ 2 covers on Boogie Wih Stu in 2011
+ 2 new songs on GRRR in 2012
+ Ghost Town in 2020
+ Zydeco's song from 2025

We have 3 albums worth of new/old material released during the last 15 years plus Blue and Lonesome and Hackney Diamonds.

I feel like a fool asking this, but what is the other Stones song on Boogie 4 Stu? I thought it was just 'Watching The River Flow'...

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6 unreleased songs on Exile in 2010
11 unreleased songs on SG in 2011 (So Young was released in 1994)
3 unreleased songs on GHS in 2020
8 unreleased songs on TY in 2021
2 unreleased songs on B&B in 2025

That's 30 unreleased songs from 1970-1980 released during the last 15 years (2010-2025)

+ 2 covers on Boogie Wih Stu in 2011
+ 2 new songs on GRRR in 2012
+ Ghost Town in 2020
+ Zydeco's song from 2025

We have 3 albums worth of new/old material released during the last 15 years plus Blue and Lonesome and Hackney Diamonds.

I may very well be wrong, but isn't the 1994 release of So Young, a different take? Or mix, at least?

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So now we kind of know what the Stones would have sounded like if Beck had joined

We knew that since the outtakes came out in the early 1980's.

And you only have to listen to She's The Boss and Primitive Cool how awful it would have been had he joined.

But according to Robert A. Johnson: the great guitar hunt never was a great guitar hunt, when he arrived in Rotterdam they made clear they already settled for Wood.

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Yeah that was something that stood out in the article...which might be incorrect because Perkins was still clearly in "contention" after that (spending time with Keith at Redlands)...now maybe they had settled for Wood then considered Perkins (at least Keith) and then went back to Wood.

Wood was touring the USA with the Faces during the Rotterdam sessions and the later Munich sessions, so it could be true that they already chose Wood and just wanted to use a second guitarist for sparring with Keith.

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6 unreleased songs on Exile in 2010
11 unreleased songs on SG in 2011 (So Young was released in 1994)
3 unreleased songs on GHS in 2020
8 unreleased songs on TY in 2021
2 unreleased songs on B&B in 2025

That's 30 unreleased songs from 1970-1980 released during the last 15 years (2010-2025)

+ 2 covers on Boogie Wih Stu in 2011
+ 2 new songs on GRRR in 2012
+ Ghost Town in 2020
+ Zydeco's song from 2025

We have 3 albums worth of new/old material released during the last 15 years plus Blue and Lonesome and Hackney Diamonds.

I feel like a fool asking this, but what is the other Stones song on Boogie 4 Stu? I thought it was just 'Watching The River Flow'...

Worried Life Blues has Keith (Vocals), Ronnie (Vocals, Guitar) and Charlie (Drums) on it.

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6 unreleased songs on Exile in 2010
11 unreleased songs on SG in 2011 (So Young was released in 1994)
3 unreleased songs on GHS in 2020
8 unreleased songs on TY in 2021
2 unreleased songs on B&B in 2025

That's 30 unreleased songs from 1970-1980 released during the last 15 years (2010-2025)

+ 2 covers on Boogie Wih Stu in 2011
+ 2 new songs on GRRR in 2012
+ Ghost Town in 2020
+ Zydeco's song from 2025

We have 3 albums worth of new/old material released during the last 15 years plus Blue and Lonesome and Hackney Diamonds.

I may very well be wrong, but isn't the 1994 release of So Young, a different take? Or mix, at least?

Yep, but the song was FIRST released on 1994.

Thank you for clearing that up for me!

The Faces had tour dates scheduled summer 1975. They ended up being cancelled due to tax reasons. There was no guarantee they were going to break up so obviously the Stones needed contingency plans..

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The Faces had tour dates scheduled summer 1975. They ended up being cancelled due to tax reasons. There was no guarantee they were going to break up so obviously the Stones needed contingency plans..

Are you sure that's correct? The Faces 1975 USA tour was scheduled for August to December 1975, not for the summer. Wood agreed in April to join the Stones for the 1975 tour and the Faces agreed to tour after the Stones tour finished. Stewart decided to go solo before the tour, but it was only announced in December. The spring 1976 Asia tour was cancelled due to high cost, and Stewart wanted a new band.

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It's unlikely that Perkins made up all the stuff here [forums.stevehoffman.tv] so that means that when Johnson was in Rotterdam they clearly had NOT settled for Wood...or they had but changed their mind just after. Anyway, a bit of a moot point at this time ;-)

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I may very well be wrong, but isn't the 1994 release of So Young, a different take? Or mix, at least?

I think there were a couple of versions released in 1994 on different formats, including a piano heavy one.

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I thought they only cancelled the festival gigs?

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The Faces had tour dates scheduled summer 1975. They ended up being cancelled due to tax reasons. There was no guarantee they were going to break up so obviously the Stones needed contingency plans..

Are you sure that's correct? The Faces 1975 USA tour was scheduled for August to December 1975, not for the summer. Wood agreed in April to join the Stones for the 1975 tour and the Faces agreed to tour after the Stones tour finished. Stewart decided to go solo before the tour, but it was only announced in December. The spring 1976 Asia tour was cancelled due to high cost, and Stewart wanted a new band.

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The Faces had shows planned in August 1975 (e.g., Dublin, Belfast, and other UK/Ireland dates). Contemporary press (like NME, Aug 1975) reported cancellations tied to Stewart’s tax status — he couldn’t appear in the UK at that time without endangering his “non-resident” tax position.

I'm not sure how much overlap there would have been, but for sure the Stones had to keep somebody in their back pocket. Wasn't Wood pretty ambivalent about committing 100% to the Stones?

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It's unlikely that Perkins made up all the stuff here [forums.stevehoffman.tv] so that means that when Johnson was in Rotterdam they clearly had NOT settled for Wood...or they had but changed their mind just after. Anyway, a bit of a moot point at this time ;-)

There's another interview with Perkins where he says that he had the impression he got the job, and that he was really disappointed when he found out Wood got the job. He felt that Keith had betrayed their friendship a bit.

It appears the Rotterdam rehearsals were more to find out who would be invited to the Munich sessions than who would become a Stone. All guitarists were there for just a day, and really at the far end of the rehearsals. Wood, Perkins and Mandel came to Munich, and Wood got the job for a large part due to his personality.

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Fantastic release! Love everything, including the jams. Like being in the room when people are auditioning. Great stuff

Actually, I prefer Earl's Court to LA Friday.

I have to say they are growing on me...the sound is fabulous, really a miracle how they got such a good sound. Frustrating though to know they have loads more in this incredible quality!

I grew up on LA Friday, I have been listening to the gig for the last 40 years. It was one of the great cassette bootlegs I had when I was 12...So for me to prefer Earl's Court over LA would be sacrilege. But I'll do my best!

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Haha, I get that, totally get that!

So, after a couple of days listening: I still have mixed feelings about the Earl's Court release. On the new tracks they play fantastic -Hand of Fate, Hot Stuff and especially Hey Negrita, several tracks are just great, like HTW and IYCRM, but from IORR on I find the performance lacking quite a bit. Brown Sugar, Midnight Rambler, JJF, SFM are all subpar, and Sympathy was so much better in 1975 I think.

I prefer the 1975 setlist over 1976, I miss All Down The Line, Fingerprint File, Angie, Wild Horses, Heartbreaker...

And sound wise I absolutely prefer LA Friday: On LA Friday the drums sound fantastic, the guitars aggressive and clear, and Jagger's voice is upfront. And this is my biggest gripe with EC: Jagger's vocals are mixed way in the back, and sound boxy and boomy. In fact so much that Star Star is quite unlistenable. The drums sound quite boomy and compressed as well, the hi-hat is hardly audible and the snare sounds like a tom.

I am happy we have the recording, I think it is much better than I expected of a 1976 show, but I prefer LA Friday in just about every aspect. It might be that I am a bit too conditioned after 40 years of listening to LA Friday....

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So now we kind of know what the Stones would have sounded like if Beck had joined

It would have been fantastic. You're right about "kind of" because I can only imagine how awesome he would have sounded on Jumping Jack Flash and Heartbreaker etc.

IMO, I Love Ladies is the best thing they've released since Tattoo You

Thank God it didn't happen. Great albums like "Blow by Blow" and "Wired" might probably not have existed. It would have been musical suicide for a musical giant like Jeff Beck had he joined the Stones.



Beck himself spoke about his audition for the band in 2012 and recalled that, after spending the day together, they realised they were on completely different paths.

“Eventually, we got into the same room together and I started playing Bill Wyman’s bass so hard the dust was flying off,” Beck told Ultimate Classic Rock. “I wandered off and the engineer, Glyn Johns, said, ‘That’s incredible!’ I said, ‘One for the archives, mate. I’m leaving tomorrow.’

Knowing how impulsive Beck was, I am confident he never, for a second, considered that being a Stone was the right career move for him. The word "audition" is not really the right word when you think of someone as unique and high-profile as Beck. Imagine Beck joining, becoming a Stone and then waiting in the studio for days for Keith to turn up for the album session... Ha. Beck knew the Stones better than we folks here on IORR do.
So why did he go when he probably had known he would never join the Stones? Those guys were his mates. They grew up together. He went to see how they were doing, to have a laugh, to play a little guitar, and to eat some shepherd's pie. Beck auditioning for anyone... Seriously? He lived in a different word musically speaking. Correct me if I am wrong, but I cannot remember Jeff Beck playing a Chuck Berry song apart from that awful jam on Johnny B. Goode with Lukather and Santana.
Beck never would have joined a circus like the Stones. And in the end, he did what he had done and would do so many times: he walked away without saying a word.
This whole thing with Beck "auditioning" and joining the Stones is so overblown.
Listening to Freeway Jam on this Deluxe Edition confirms how right Beck was when he decided to flee the scene. This nonsense is a tough listen. And Keith was just as bored as Beck was. Anyway, Keith doing Freeway Jam... Oh, boy!

They should have just hired Waddy Wachtel. Ha. The perfect guy for the Stones.



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He didn't audition. He went there to help them recording a couple tracks. The very instant he understood that wasn't happening, he left.

All of this according to himself.

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He didn't audition. He went there to help them recording a couple tracks. The very instant he understood that wasn't happening, he left.

All of this according to himself.

Jeff Beck in the Rolling Stones is like genius playing with bloody amateurs. I'm glad he didn't join them. If he did he might have ended up like Nils Lofgren ended up in th E-Street band, i.e. two solos each shows and having to play far below his capabilities for the rest of the show (but having a steading job). There surely is a reason why Mick Taylor quit…

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He didn't audition. He went there to help them recording a couple tracks. The very instant he understood that wasn't happening, he left.

All of this according to himself.

Jeff Beck in the Rolling Stones is like genius playing with bloody amateurs. I'm glad he didn't join them. If he did he might have ended up like Nils Lofgren ended up in th E-Street band, i.e. two solos each shows and having to play far below his capabilities for the rest of the show (but having a steading job). There surely is a reason why Mick Taylor quit…

Oh c’mon, he was not a genius The Stones are genius if anyone is.Tim Rice said Jagger is greatest lyricist ever.Maybe hyperbole, but still great.And the unique sound of the Stones lies in Keith Bill and Charlie.What great songs did Beck ever write? What great riffs.He never was able to play in a band for long where he had to be part of the band and not the focal point.His playing on Jagger ‘s solo albums are certainly not genius.Great guitarist , but no genius.And had he joined the Stones he would not have been like Segovia playing with a first year guitarist.

UK Midweek Sales (Friday/Sunday)

01 5 Seconds of Summer - EVERYONE'S A STAR! (14,265) [13,328 physicals, 172 downloads, 765 streaming]
02 D-Block Europe - PTSD 2 (7,454) [4,858 physicals, 50 downloads, 2,546 streaming]
03 Oasis - Familiar to Millions (5,980)
04 Olivia Dean - The Art of Loving (5,164)
05 Tears for Fears - Songs from the Big Chair (4,830)
06 Celeste - Woman of Faces (4,733)
07 Taylor Swift - The Life Of A Showgirl (4,730)
08 Doves - So, Here We Are: Best of Doves (4,706)
09 NF - FEAR (3,908)

16 The Rolling Stones - Black and Blue (2,157)
17 Summer Walker - Finally Over It (2,087)

With those anemic sales (which include pre-orders) it's going to be difficult for B&B to stay in the Top 40 by Friday

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UK Midweek Sales (Friday/Sunday)

01 5 Seconds of Summer - EVERYONE'S A STAR! (14,265) [13,328 physicals, 172 downloads, 765 streaming]
02 D-Block Europe - PTSD 2 (7,454) [4,858 physicals, 50 downloads, 2,546 streaming]
03 Oasis - Familiar to Millions (5,980)
04 Olivia Dean - The Art of Loving (5,164)
05 Tears for Fears - Songs from the Big Chair (4,830)
06 Celeste - Woman of Faces (4,733)
07 Taylor Swift - The Life Of A Showgirl (4,730)
08 Doves - So, Here We Are: Best of Doves (4,706)
09 NF - FEAR (3,908)

16 The Rolling Stones - Black and Blue (2,157)
17 Summer Walker - Finally Over It (2,087)

With those anemic sales (which include pre-orders) it's going to be difficult for B&B to stay in the Top 40 by Friday

That being said there are still back orders on the CD deluxe(I’m still waiting) on the RS site it states “sold out”. Did they underestimate on the big ticket items? Or they figured Hot Stuff needed to be corrected on an expensive version?

I don’t have the answer, but curious.

The DTS-HD Master Audio mix of the studio album is fascinating. Great separation allowing things I've never heard before to come through.

Live stuff sounds like 70s FM radio; video is fun to watch though.



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He didn't audition. He went there to help them recording a couple tracks. The very instant he understood that wasn't happening, he left.

All of this according to himself.

Jeff Beck in the Rolling Stones is like genius playing with bloody amateurs. I'm glad he didn't join them. If he did he might have ended up like Nils Lofgren ended up in th E-Street band, i.e. two solos each shows and having to play far below his capabilities for the rest of the show (but having a steading job). There surely is a reason why Mick Taylor quit…

Oh c’mon, he was not a genius The Stones are genius if anyone is.Tim Rice said Jagger is greatest lyricist ever.Maybe hyperbole, but still great.And the unique sound of the Stones lies in Keith Bill and Charlie.What great songs did Beck ever write? What great riffs.He never was able to play in a band for long where he had to be part of the band and not the focal point.His playing on Jagger ‘s solo albums are certainly not genius.Great guitarist , but no genius.And had he joined the Stones he would not have been like Segovia playing with a first year guitarist.

how many songs did Elvis write? I was talking about Jeff Beck as a guitarist (and his ability to take songs to a whole other level. Listen to his version of the Beatles 'A Day in Life' for example)).

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He didn't audition. He went there to help them recording a couple tracks. The very instant he understood that wasn't happening, he left.

All of this according to himself.

Jeff Beck in the Rolling Stones is like genius playing with bloody amateurs. I'm glad he didn't join them. If he did he might have ended up like Nils Lofgren ended up in th E-Street band, i.e. two solos each shows and having to play far below his capabilities for the rest of the show (but having a steading job). There surely is a reason why Mick Taylor quit…

Oh c’mon, he was not a genius The Stones are genius if anyone is.Tim Rice said Jagger is greatest lyricist ever.Maybe hyperbole, but still great.And the unique sound of the Stones lies in Keith Bill and Charlie.What great songs did Beck ever write? What great riffs.He never was able to play in a band for long where he had to be part of the band and not the focal point.His playing on Jagger ‘s solo albums are certainly not genius.Great guitarist , but no genius.And had he joined the Stones he would not have been like Segovia playing with a first year guitarist.

how many songs did Elvis write? I was talking about Jeff Beck as a guitarist (and his ability to take songs to a whole other level. Listen to his version of the Beatles 'A Day in Life' for example)).

I much prefer the Beatles original.And I don’t hear how he took the song to another level.And the Stones are not bloody amateurs.



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I received the Super Deluxe CD box set today. For those who have been asking, the mixing error in "Hot Stuff" has not been corrected in the CD box set (at least not on my copy).

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I received the Super Deluxe CD box set today. For those who have been asking, the mixing error in "Hot Stuff" has not been corrected in the CD box set (at least not on my copy).

I noticed no fade-in on the Blu-ray version of Hey Negrita.

Hot stuff is not corrected on the cd or vinyl

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So now we kind of know what the Stones would have sounded like if Beck had joined

It would have been fantastic. You're right about "kind of" because I can only imagine how awesome he would have sounded on Jumping Jack Flash and Heartbreaker etc.

IMO, I Love Ladies is the best thing they've released since Tattoo You

Thank God it didn't happen. Great albums like "Blow by Blow" and "Wired" might probably not have existed. It would have been musical suicide for a musical giant like Jeff Beck had he joined the Stones.



Beck himself spoke about his audition for the band in 2012 and recalled that, after spending the day together, they realised they were on completely different paths.

“Eventually, we got into the same room together and I started playing Bill Wyman’s bass so hard the dust was flying off,” Beck told Ultimate Classic Rock. “I wandered off and the engineer, Glyn Johns, said, ‘That’s incredible!’ I said, ‘One for the archives, mate. I’m leaving tomorrow.’

Knowing how impulsive Beck was, I am confident he never, for a second, considered that being a Stone was the right career move for him. The word "audition" is not really the right word when you think of someone as unique and high-profile as Beck. Imagine Beck joining, becoming a Stone and then waiting in the studio for days for Keith to turn up for the album session... Ha. Beck knew the Stones better than we folks here on IORR do.
So why did he go when he probably had known he would never join the Stones? Those guys were his mates. They grew up together. He went to see how they were doing, to have a laugh, to play a little guitar, and to eat some shepherd's pie. Beck auditioning for anyone... Seriously? He lived in a different word musically speaking. Correct me if I am wrong, but I cannot remember Jeff Beck playing a Chuck Berry song apart from that awful jam on Johnny B. Goode with Lukather and Santana.
Beck never would have joined a circus like the Stones. And in the end, he did what he had done and would do so many times: he walked away without saying a word.
This whole thing with Beck "auditioning" and joining the Stones is so overblown.
Listening to Freeway Jam on this Deluxe Edition confirms how right Beck was when he decided to flee the scene. This nonsense is a tough listen. And Keith was just as bored as Beck was. Anyway, Keith doing Freeway Jam... Oh, boy!

They should have just hired Waddy Wachtel. Ha. The perfect guy for the Stones.

Well, there's a terrific BBC Radio rendition of Berry's 'Too Much Monkey Business', performed by the Yardbirds, featuring Jeff Beck - so that's one, for now!

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He didn't audition. He went there to help them recording a couple tracks. The very instant he understood that wasn't happening, he left.

All of this according to himself.

Jeff Beck in the Rolling Stones is like genius playing with bloody amateurs. I'm glad he didn't join them. If he did he might have ended up like Nils Lofgren ended up in th E-Street band, i.e. two solos each shows and having to play far below his capabilities for the rest of the show (but having a steading job). There surely is a reason why Mick Taylor quit…

Oh c’mon, he was not a genius The Stones are genius if anyone is.Tim Rice said Jagger is greatest lyricist ever.Maybe hyperbole, but still great.And the unique sound of the Stones lies in Keith Bill and Charlie.What great songs did Beck ever write? What great riffs.He never was able to play in a band for long where he had to be part of the band and not the focal point.His playing on Jagger ‘s solo albums are certainly not genius.Great guitarist , but no genius.And had he joined the Stones he would not have been like Segovia playing with a first year guitarist.

I can see why people regard Beck as one the best electric guitarists ever, right there with Hendrix, and from a technical point of view perhaps even the best. But I just can't listen to Beck...All this wizardry and his use of the tremolo bar makes it just not listenable for me. It's the same with Eddie van Halen: I can see that his technique is incredible, but I just can't stand any of his solo's, it's just not musical in any sense. The same with Bonamassa: incredible player, but to listen for more than 10 minutes to his endless screaming solos of 1000 notes per second is impossible for me.

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