I was 15 and in the 10th grade in spring, 1976 - when Black and Blue came out. I was vaguely aware of the Stones (I owned the Goats Head 8-track and loved hearing Honky Tonk Women on the radio).

"Fool To Cry" was a pretty big radio hit and I immediately became a fanatic. I particularly loved (and still love) Memory Motel and Hot Stuff. In fact, everything on there except the awful Cherry Oh Baby.

This is when I got completely absorbed into all things Stones. I missed the 78 tour (closest show was the Atlanta Fox show), but have seen every tour beginning in 1981.

Black and Blue started me on a lifetime obsession. Long live The Stones.

@Georgelicks

Is Black and blue gone off in the UK charts?First week was #40...

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Is Black and blue gone off in the UK charts? First week was #40...

In Germany, it went down from #3 to #59 - [www.OffizielleCharts.de] . With that, it wouldn't be surprising if it dropped out of the Top-100 in UK.

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Just found out the Steve Wilson Remix on the Bluray (5.1 mix) has a dynamic range of 14.

Thanks for the info. It was almost to be expected that the surround sound has no brickwalled mastering.

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@Georgelicks

Is Black and blue gone off in the UK charts?First week was #40...

Out of the Top 200, it's out of the physical chart too, it was #8 last week and went out of the Top 100, so the sales must be 300 copies or less, about 3,300 total so far.

The Beatles are at #9 with Anthology 4 and #29 with the full 12 disk set.

Aside from a few reviews in some music magazines and my own on The Arts Desk, there has been zero press on this anywhere, at all. Nothing at all from the band, just a line or two from Ron as he promotes his own best of, when it could have been a chance to reconfigure and reframe the classic decadent druggy 70s Stones from the distance of 2025, with a new album coming in 26....
And having the second disc full of jams, when the Stones are not a jam band - what's the point? Earls Court should have replaced that, and the jams sent back to the deluxe set.

is the blu ray better quality than The Rolling Stones June 1976 Pavillon de Paris, as seen on you tube?

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is the blu ray better quality than The Rolling Stones June 1976 Pavillon de Paris, as seen on you tube?

Sound quality sounds like FM radio.

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is the blu ray better quality than The Rolling Stones June 1976 Pavillon de Paris, as seen on you tube?

Sound quality sounds like FM radio.

The Blu Ray? The Blu Ray is excellent stereo quality, a tad better than Earls Court.

Mathijs

what is the picture quality like? Better than June 1976 Pavillon de Paris, as seen on you tube?

See for yourself.

Super deluxe version (YouTube version):





YouTube bootleg:

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I was 15 and in the 10th grade in spring, 1976 - when Black and Blue came out. I was vaguely aware of the Stones (I owned the Goats Head 8-track and loved hearing Honky Tonk Women on the radio).

"Fool To Cry" was a pretty big radio hit and I immediately became a fanatic. I particularly loved (and still love) Memory Motel and Hot Stuff. In fact, everything on there except the awful Cherry Oh Baby.

This is when I got completely absorbed into all things Stones. I missed the 78 tour (closest show was the Atlanta Fox show), but have seen every tour beginning in 1981.

Black and Blue started me on a lifetime obsession. Long live The Stones.

HA HA!!! Musically it's faithful to the 1971 original but Mick's singing is horrendous. Is that what makes it so bad? That's my take on it. Did Mick blow it on purpose because he can't sing like Eric Donaldson? Mick said they "did it one day for a laugh and kept it on the album."

Kudos (again) to the RS shop, after the video I sent they refunded my (2nd) box set — I opted out of a third replacement, concerned those pressings might continue to have an issue.. But now that I’m switching to the CD they’re sold out ha

So looking to purchase the Earl’s Court on CD if anyone has an extra (I don’t need any of the other stuff)

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So looking to purchase the Earl’s Court on CD

If no one has any CDs left, the 4CD+BR is still available at [Amazon.co.uk] , [Fnac.com] , [Platenzaak.nl] , [Bravado.de] , [www.jpc.de] . Or you could buy the single files on [Qobuz.com] and burn your own CDs.

The sound quality on much of the Black and Blue Deluxe depends on how and with what you are listening to, whatever part of the package.

Are you listening on a single-speaker TV, Dolby Atmos, 5.1 surround sound, stereo, or what?

I haven't seen any credits for the Stereo remix of 'Black and Blue'. I see a lot of information about Steve Wilson's immersive Atmos mix, but nothing specifically about the stereo mix.

I did read Steve Wilson did a 5.1 mix and 7.2 mix, but I haven't found any credits for a dedicated stereo mix.

The 2.0 stereo of the new Black and Blue mix has many aspects/parts of the surround sound mixes buried low or lost altogether. I think the stereo mix of Black and Blue 2025 is a fold-down of a surround sound mix, losing much of what can be heard in surround sound.


The Steven Wilson remix is just different. The vinyl isn't the best way to appreciate the remix. Wilson is massively into the "immersive" sound thing and has become some sort of Atmos-guru.

Declan Gaffney mixed both of the concert sets included with this box (in addition to stereo and Atmos, there is also a DTS-HD 5.1 option for the Paris show, with an audio mastering credit in the video for Mazen Murad at Katara Studios — the audio-only stuff was all mastered by Matt Colton at Metropolis, including the vinyl cuts).


Article:
[immersiveaudioalbum.com]



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Headphones via CD downloaded to a PC, PC sound system by Insignia, which is nice, a Sony CD boombox, a Bluetooth JBL via AppleMusic, and soon a set of Klipsch RP-600M via a Blu-ray player and Sony amp/receiver.

I don't have it on vinyl. I'll probably find the original somewhere, I had it years ago, but I won't buy box sets on vinyl. With CD at least it can be transferred to multiple devices and, of course, AppleMusic is excellent, too. It's on AmazonMusic but most of the time that damn thing refuses to work.

Does anyone know who the composers of the new Black and Blue songs are?
- Chuck Berry Style Jam
- Blues Jam
- Rotterdam Jam
I imagine someone is making some money off those songs.
I've noticed that even Nico Zentgraf doesn't have that information.

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Does anyone know who the composers of the new Black and Blue songs are?
- Chuck Berry Style Jam
- Blues Jam
- Rotterdam Jam
I imagine someone is making some money off those songs.
I've noticed that even Nico Zentgraf doesn't have that information.

those 3 and Freeway Jam have same credits on Spotify, unfortunately Harvey Mandel is credited as guitar in all 4 jams...

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Ricky
Does anyone know who the composers of the new Black and Blue songs are?
- Chuck Berry Style Jam
- Blues Jam
- Rotterdam Jam
I imagine someone is making some money off those songs.
I've noticed that even Nico Zentgraf doesn't have that information.

those 3 and Freeway Jam have same credits on Spotify, unfortunately Harvey Mandel is credited as guitar in all 4 jams...

Thanks !!!

Is the complete earls court show worth downloading?
Regarding we have LA Forum, Love You Live and El Mocambo.
Are there certain tracks worth downloading?

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Is the complete earls court show worth downloading?
Regarding we have LA Forum, Love You Live and El Mocambo.
Are there certain tracks worth downloading?

I would say so, considering it's a complete U.K. show from 1976.

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Is the complete earls court show worth downloading?
Regarding we have LA Forum, Love You Live and El Mocambo.
Are there certain tracks worth downloading?

Definitely! It is a surprisingly good show.

Individual tracks that (imo) are particularly good:

Honky Tonk Women
If You Can't Rock Me / Get Off Of My Cloud
Hey Negrita
Hot Stuff
Hand Of Fate
Fool To Cry
You Gotta Move
Sympathy For The Devil



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Are there certain tracks worth downloading?

You can check this by yourself for free - [YouTube.com] , [Music.Apple.com] , [open.Spotify.com] .

Would it be excessive to release a third vinyl box set in black and blue liquid, or could it be released?

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Would it be excessive to release a third vinyl box set in black and blue liquid, or could it be released?

One Liquid-Vinyl-LP costs £ 45 and five of them would cost £ 225. The 5LP+BR box with black Vinyl already costs £ 160 and with Liquid-Vinyl it would probably cost £ 280. Too expensive, too little demand.

I think they could still pull off Hand Of Fate - it's fairly straightforward musically, and the tempo is kinda ploddy.

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I think they could still pull off Hand Of Fate - it's fairly straightforward musically, and the tempo is kinda ploddy.

The live version of the song was released as a single in 2006
[www.discogs.com]
On CD it appeared as disc 45 in The Singles 1971-2006 box.

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I was 15 and in the 10th grade in spring, 1976 - when Black and Blue came out. I was vaguely aware of the Stones (I owned the Goats Head 8-track and loved hearing Honky Tonk Women on the radio).

"Fool To Cry" was a pretty big radio hit and I immediately became a fanatic. I particularly loved (and still love) Memory Motel and Hot Stuff. In fact, everything on there except the awful Cherry Oh Baby.

This is when I got completely absorbed into all things Stones. I missed the 78 tour (closest show was the Atlanta Fox show), but have seen every tour beginning in 1981.

Black and Blue started me on a lifetime obsession. Long live The Stones.

HA HA!!! Musically it's faithful to the 1971 original but Mick's singing is horrendous. Is that what makes it so bad? That's my take on it. Did Mick blow it on purpose because he can't sing like Eric Donaldson? Mick said they "did it one day for a laugh and kept it on the album."

Maybe so, I like Eric's original version.

Earls Court live album is fabulous