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Well, it had outtakes and alternate takes. I'm not sure why the Stones would put 'new' tracks on a release of an album from 1976; oh, unless we're talking those 'Frankenstein-like' recordings, featuring an old backing-track, and new Mick vocals? They're 'OK', but I, personally, loose interest pretty quickly.
Stick Fingers didn't have any outtakes. Only Early/alternate/rehearsal takes of SF songs plus live recordings.
I think in this context a new track is a Song that hasn't been officially released. So 2 new (unreleased) Songs plus other songs would perfectly fit in the Deluxe series.
Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 2025-06-11 12:33 by hockenheim95.
Yes, you are right. Merely two additional tracks doesn't seem right, though.
I don't think they are particularly precious. Compared to a lot of other bands I think they are tremendous in releasing vault stuff! Now whether or not it is the vault stuff you want, is a completely different issue altogether.
Well as I said "more is better" but you have the Fully Finished bootleg release that has a plethora of material. So if we're talking about material, we do have that in spades. If we insist on everything getting "official release" status, then the sales have to be significantly higher to justify it and that ain't happening, clearly.
But I'm with you, I want the brand new material and as far as the deluxe sets go, I usually do buy them as there's something interesting and I expect the same will happen with Black and Blue. I just find it odd that they skipped IORR for deluxe, which I would have expected to be a bigger seller. Even Emotional Rescue IMHO.
[StonesSessions.com] - Appendix Session List - lists it twice under S0557: Jan/Feb 1975 RSM Rotterdam and Nov/Dec 1980 Bercy Paris.
It's definitely from the BAB sessions.
I'm gonna guess you don't like it because it sounds like the over cooked Wagon Wheel.
knebworth was filmed and that's why i'd rather they wait on knebworth and give it a proper standalone release of the video and audio
i'd prefer we get another show from 76
i think there are legal issues related to who owns the rights to the paris shows but i'm unsure if that applies to the audio or the video or both
one of the earl's court shows would be cool
I would rather check the second hand market for a cheap CBS CD for a replacement. That CD tops both Virgin remaster and Japanese only SHM CD originated from the flat transfer of the original master tape. Hardly the sound quality of the new release will be better than that.
I still have that CD...I think I bought it in 87 or 88 when I bought my first CD player.
Wonder what the source is for the 1980 sessions, never read that before.
Incidentally I'm pretty sure it was long thought to be Beck's "Freeway Jam" on the 4x90' cassettes recorded with a mic dropped into the mailbox of the Mobile Recording Truck at De Doelen in Rotterdam !
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IORR Links : Essential Studio Outtakes CDs : Audio - History of Rarest Outtakes : Audio
I mean, nobody is forcing you to purchase something specific.
I am just saying that the old CBS CD is hard to beat in terms of sound quality. And that version (it was on the market from 1986 till 1994) is dirt cheap now.
I am 99% sure that the new remaster will be brickwalled to death and will sound like 40th Anniversary reissue of Tattoo You (or close to that). So, you know, the new version will be a new experience.
I also do not understand what you mean by 'worn out' CD. It is a CD, not a vinyl record. From my experience it is rather hard to make a CD not suitable for a playback. Unless you overheat it or make a deep scratch on the label side. But that is a severe mishandling. Black and Blue was not pressed by Nimbus UK or PDO UK, thus a specific type of rot is off the table. I am just curious what particular CD of yours is skipping.
The WHAT?
CD
No I mean did they really consider making a CD out of Keith's hair?
Don't know. I'm sharing ideas. Maybe some of Ron's hair too?
I'm spitballing...
Those legalities were most likely dealt with decades ago. Promo whatever owns the rights, right? But there has to be an agreement for a release.
Perhaps at the time they only considered whatever for LOVE YOU LIVE so Knebworth wasn't an option - or there were legal aspects at the time that needed more time.
They could've released Knebworth in 1977 if they wanted to. They didn't. Perhaps it will be part of the 2025 BAB deluxe.
They've logically got a few more deluxe reissues if they want them, IORR, ER and U, but why would they bother with DIRTY WORK and STEEL WHEELS at this point?
They all think DW sucks so that won't happen. Rightfully so.
VL deluxe was a joke. No need to bother with BTB or ABB.
The deluxe reissues are a joke in the long run: they don't make much money, as UMG is probably hoping, and hardly any "other" music is included. Online extras from whenever make more sense - it costs next to nothing to do that as opposed to printing whatever and cardboard whatever and blah blah blah whatever.
It's done. They truly missed out on the deluxe reissues meaning anything - they could've done it with Virgin in the 1990s when people were still interested.
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Re: Black and Blue 2025
Posted by:
peoplewitheyes
()
Date: June 11, 2025 11:21
I wonder why the Stones are so precious about opening the vaults?
Most other major acts - The Who, Beatles, Beach Boys (I'm sure you can name many more) - have given us huge amounts of extra stuff - 4-CD versions of Who's Next, a multi-CD box of a single song (Good Vibrations).
Seriously, Mick, the market for this stuff is declining by the day. Just put it out as a digital download, minimum charge, minimum fuss.
(yes, they've given us a lifetime of pleasure, but, well, I'm greedy)
Most other major acts - The Who, Beatles, Beach Boys (I'm sure you can name many more) - have given us huge amounts of extra stuff - 4-CD versions of Who's Next, a multi-CD box of a single song (Good Vibrations).
Seriously, Mick, the market for this stuff is declining by the day. Just put it out as a digital download, minimum charge, minimum fuss.
(yes, they've given us a lifetime of pleasure, but, well, I'm greedy)
Re: Black and Blue 2025
Posted by:
Big Al
()
Date: June 11, 2025 12:25
Quote
hockenheim95Quote
Big Al
Just 'two tracks'? This isn't going to be a 'Deluxe Edition', then. It's more of a celebratory reissue, with a couple of bonus tracks. This surprises me a little, as the Stones haven't really done this before.
Sticky Fingers Deluxe had 0 new Tracks. Let's wait until an announcement if this is really the case.
Well, it had outtakes and alternate takes. I'm not sure why the Stones would put 'new' tracks on a release of an album from 1976; oh, unless we're talking those 'Frankenstein-like' recordings, featuring an old backing-track, and new Mick vocals? They're 'OK', but I, personally, loose interest pretty quickly.
Re: Black and Blue 2025
Posted by:
hockenheim95
()
Date: June 11, 2025 12:28
Quote
Big AlQuote
hockenheim95Quote
Big Al
Just 'two tracks'? This isn't going to be a 'Deluxe Edition', then. It's more of a celebratory reissue, with a couple of bonus tracks. This surprises me a little, as the Stones haven't really done this before.
Sticky Fingers Deluxe had 0 new Tracks. Let's wait until an announcement if this is really the case.
Well, it had outtakes and alternate takes. I'm not sure why the Stones would put 'new' tracks on a release of an album from 1976; oh, unless we're talking those 'Frankenstein-like' recordings, featuring an old backing-track, and new Mick vocals? They're 'OK', but I, personally, loose interest pretty quickly.
Stick Fingers didn't have any outtakes. Only Early/alternate/rehearsal takes of SF songs plus live recordings.
I think in this context a new track is a Song that hasn't been officially released. So 2 new (unreleased) Songs plus other songs would perfectly fit in the Deluxe series.
Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 2025-06-11 12:33 by hockenheim95.
Re: Black and Blue 2025
Posted by:
Big Al
()
Date: June 11, 2025 12:59
Quote
hockenheim95Quote
Big AlQuote
hockenheim95Quote
Big Al
Just 'two tracks'? This isn't going to be a 'Deluxe Edition', then. It's more of a celebratory reissue, with a couple of bonus tracks. This surprises me a little, as the Stones haven't really done this before.
Sticky Fingers Deluxe had 0 new Tracks. Let's wait until an announcement if this is really the case.
Well, it had outtakes and alternate takes. I'm not sure why the Stones would put 'new' tracks on a release of an album from 1976; oh, unless we're talking those 'Frankenstein-like' recordings, featuring an old backing-track, and new Mick vocals? They're 'OK', but I, personally, loose interest pretty quickly.
Stick Fingers didn't have any outtakes. Only Early/alternate/rehearsal takes of SF songs plus live recordings.
I think in this context a new track is a Song that hasn't been officially released. So 2 new (unreleased) Songs plus other songs would perfectly fit in the Deluxe series.
Yes, you are right. Merely two additional tracks doesn't seem right, though.
Re: Black and Blue 2025
Posted by:
Barkerboy2
()
Date: June 11, 2025 14:27
Quote
peoplewitheyes
I wonder why the Stones are so precious about opening the vaults?
Most other major acts - The Who, Beatles, Beach Boys (I'm sure you can name many more) - have given us huge amounts of extra stuff - 4-CD versions of Who's Next, a multi-CD box of a single song (Good Vibrations).
Seriously, Mick, the market for this stuff is declining by the day. Just put it out as a digital download, minimum charge, minimum fuss.
(yes, they've given us a lifetime of pleasure, but, well, I'm greedy)
I don't think they are particularly precious. Compared to a lot of other bands I think they are tremendous in releasing vault stuff! Now whether or not it is the vault stuff you want, is a completely different issue altogether.
Re: Black and Blue 2025
Posted by:
treaclefingers
()
Date: June 11, 2025 15:04
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ProfessorWolfQuote
treaclefingersQuote
ProfessorWolf
i'm gonna just hope the sun article is based on bad information
because a brickwalled to hell re-release of black and blue with i love ladies and built this way (or whatever two tracks) is not gonna get me to buy it again
maybe if they include audio of a previously unreleased show from 76 i would shell out the cash
and think if this turns out to be true that likely means the only major releases from them this year will be the one track on the clifton cheiner tribute album and two outtakes on a reissued black and blue
meanwhile they have vaults bursting at the seams full of good stuff and this is what there giving us
i mean come on at least throw us a bone with a little meat on it
More is better...but, come on. We're now 63 years on and still getting vault releases AND new albums. I don't think anyone could have predicted this. It's a win. Don't be glass half empty Doc!
yeah yeah they've given us a lot and i'm admittedly being a grump
but it sure be nice if the dozens of professionally recorded shows from the 70's could see the light of day while at least some of the fans who were alive to see them then are still alive
and it's disappointing to me that if this is true we won't be getting a deluxe black and blue at all but a re-release with two bonus tracks
whatever i'll forget/forgive all this once that new album is in my hands
that's still what i really want them to release
everything else is just gravy
Well as I said "more is better" but you have the Fully Finished bootleg release that has a plethora of material. So if we're talking about material, we do have that in spades. If we insist on everything getting "official release" status, then the sales have to be significantly higher to justify it and that ain't happening, clearly.
But I'm with you, I want the brand new material and as far as the deluxe sets go, I usually do buy them as there's something interesting and I expect the same will happen with Black and Blue. I just find it odd that they skipped IORR for deluxe, which I would have expected to be a bigger seller. Even Emotional Rescue IMHO.
Re: Black and Blue 2025
Posted by:
GasLightStreet
()
Date: June 12, 2025 07:57
They missed out on the obvious: ER deluxe in 2020.
I don't recall anyone here saying they've ever made sense.
I don't recall anyone here saying they've ever made sense.
Re: Black and Blue 2025
Posted by:
bisonvodka
()
Date: June 12, 2025 11:36
Hope that one of extra tracks is "Come On Sugar".
Re: Black and Blue 2025
Posted by:
Rockman
()
Date: June 12, 2025 11:37
"Come On Sugar". .....Yeah way coool track
ROCKMAN
ROCKMAN
Re: Black and Blue 2025
Posted by:
HardRiffin
()
Date: June 12, 2025 17:29
Are we sure that "Built That Way" comes from BaB sessions?
I don't like it at all, but other than that i don't feel like it has the sound and style of that album.
What do you think about It?
[youtu.be]
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2025-06-12 17:32 by HardRiffin.
I don't like it at all, but other than that i don't feel like it has the sound and style of that album.
What do you think about It?
[youtu.be]
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2025-06-12 17:32 by HardRiffin.
Re: Black and Blue 2025
Posted by:
Irix
()
Date: June 12, 2025 18:30
Quote
HardRiffin
Are we sure that "Built That Way" comes from BaB sessions?
[StonesSessions.com] - Appendix Session List - lists it twice under S0557: Jan/Feb 1975 RSM Rotterdam and Nov/Dec 1980 Bercy Paris.
Re: Black and Blue 2025
Posted by:
georgemcdonnell314
()
Date: June 12, 2025 18:39
I am sure there are plenty of songs they can polish up and release. None of us really know all the unfinished tracks.
Ironically my B&B CD is starting to have skips in it so I will be buying the new disc regardless.
And I agree they should give us an unreleased show from this tour. I would really like Knebworth where they gave us some older gems. We know there are recordings, and I believe I have seen video clips.
(I Can't Get No) Satisfaction
Ain't Too Proud to Beg (The Temptations cover)
If You Can't Rock Me / Get Off of My Cloud
Hand of Fate
Around and Around (Chuck Berry cover)
The Little Red Rooster (Willie Dixon cover)
Stray Cat Blues
Hey Negrita
Hot Stuff
Fool to Cry
Star Star
Let's Spend the Night Together
You Gotta Move (traditional cover)
You Can't Always Get What You Want
Dead Flowers
Route 66 (Bobby Troup cover)
Wild Horses
Honky Tonk Women
Tumbling Dice
Happy
Nothing From Nothing (Billy Preston cover)
Outa-Space (Billy Preston cover)
Midnight Rambler
It's Only Rock 'n' Roll (but I Like It)
Brown Sugar
Rip This Joint
Jumpin' Jack Flash
Street Fighting Man
Ironically my B&B CD is starting to have skips in it so I will be buying the new disc regardless.
And I agree they should give us an unreleased show from this tour. I would really like Knebworth where they gave us some older gems. We know there are recordings, and I believe I have seen video clips.
(I Can't Get No) Satisfaction
Ain't Too Proud to Beg (The Temptations cover)
If You Can't Rock Me / Get Off of My Cloud
Hand of Fate
Around and Around (Chuck Berry cover)
The Little Red Rooster (Willie Dixon cover)
Stray Cat Blues
Hey Negrita
Hot Stuff
Fool to Cry
Star Star
Let's Spend the Night Together
You Gotta Move (traditional cover)
You Can't Always Get What You Want
Dead Flowers
Route 66 (Bobby Troup cover)
Wild Horses
Honky Tonk Women
Tumbling Dice
Happy
Nothing From Nothing (Billy Preston cover)
Outa-Space (Billy Preston cover)
Midnight Rambler
It's Only Rock 'n' Roll (but I Like It)
Brown Sugar
Rip This Joint
Jumpin' Jack Flash
Street Fighting Man
Re: Black and Blue 2025
Posted by:
GasLightStreet
()
Date: June 12, 2025 20:01
Quote
HardRiffin
Are we sure that "Built That Way" comes from BaB sessions?
I don't like it at all, but other than that i don't feel like it has the sound and style of that album.
What do you think about It?
[youtu.be]
It's definitely from the BAB sessions.
I'm gonna guess you don't like it because it sounds like the over cooked Wagon Wheel.
Re: Black and Blue 2025
Posted by:
ProfessorWolf
()
Date: June 12, 2025 20:50
Quote
georgemcdonnell314
I am sure there are plenty of songs they can polish up and release. None of us really know all the unfinished tracks.
Ironically my B&B CD is starting to have skips in it so I will be buying the new disc regardless.
And I agree they should give us an unreleased show from this tour. I would really like Knebworth where they gave us some older gems. We know there are recordings, and I believe I have seen video clips.
(I Can't Get No) Satisfaction
Ain't Too Proud to Beg (The Temptations cover)
If You Can't Rock Me / Get Off of My Cloud
Hand of Fate
Around and Around (Chuck Berry cover)
The Little Red Rooster (Willie Dixon cover)
Stray Cat Blues
Hey Negrita
Hot Stuff
Fool to Cry
Star Star
Let's Spend the Night Together
You Gotta Move (traditional cover)
You Can't Always Get What You Want
Dead Flowers
Route 66 (Bobby Troup cover)
Wild Horses
Honky Tonk Women
Tumbling Dice
Happy
Nothing From Nothing (Billy Preston cover)
Outa-Space (Billy Preston cover)
Midnight Rambler
It's Only Rock 'n' Roll (but I Like It)
Brown Sugar
Rip This Joint
Jumpin' Jack Flash
Street Fighting Man
knebworth was filmed and that's why i'd rather they wait on knebworth and give it a proper standalone release of the video and audio
i'd prefer we get another show from 76
i think there are legal issues related to who owns the rights to the paris shows but i'm unsure if that applies to the audio or the video or both
one of the earl's court shows would be cool
Re: Black and Blue 2025
Posted by:
Rockman
()
Date: June 12, 2025 21:54
>>>>>>>> Whoops
ROCKMAN
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2025-06-12 21:59 by Rockman.
ROCKMAN
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2025-06-12 21:59 by Rockman.
Re: Black and Blue 2025
Posted by:
ironbelly
()
Date: June 12, 2025 22:25
Which CD is that?Quote
georgemcdonnell314
I am sure there are plenty of songs they can polish up and release. None of us really know all the unfinished tracks.
Ironically my B&B CD is starting to have skips in it so I will be buying the new disc regardless.
I would rather check the second hand market for a cheap CBS CD for a replacement. That CD tops both Virgin remaster and Japanese only SHM CD originated from the flat transfer of the original master tape. Hardly the sound quality of the new release will be better than that.
Re: Black and Blue 2025
Posted by:
treaclefingers
()
Date: June 12, 2025 22:33
Quote
ironbellyWhich CD is that?Quote
georgemcdonnell314
I am sure there are plenty of songs they can polish up and release. None of us really know all the unfinished tracks.
Ironically my B&B CD is starting to have skips in it so I will be buying the new disc regardless.
I would rather check the second hand market for a cheap CBS CD for a replacement. That CD tops both Virgin remaster and Japanese only SHM CD originated from the flat transfer of the original master tape. Hardly the sound quality of the new release will be better than that.
I still have that CD...I think I bought it in 87 or 88 when I bought my first CD player.
Re: Black and Blue 2025
Posted by:
gotdablouse
()
Date: June 12, 2025 22:36
Quote
IrixQuote
HardRiffin
Are we sure that "Built That Way" comes from BaB sessions?
[StonesSessions.com] - Appendix Session List - lists it twice under S0557: Jan/Feb 1975 RSM Rotterdam and Nov/Dec 1980 Bercy Paris.
Wonder what the source is for the 1980 sessions, never read that before.
Incidentally I'm pretty sure it was long thought to be Beck's "Freeway Jam" on the 4x90' cassettes recorded with a mic dropped into the mailbox of the Mobile Recording Truck at De Doelen in Rotterdam !
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IORR Links : Essential Studio Outtakes CDs : Audio - History of Rarest Outtakes : Audio
Re: Black and Blue 2025
Posted by:
georgemcdonnell314
()
Date: June 12, 2025 23:17
I am not interested in buying cheap version. Most of the CD's I have been purchased in the 1980's so I am sure they are worn out.
I still have a Japanese vinyl version I listen to. It has a poster inside that I have never seen elsewhere.
So, to contradict you I will purchase the new release with the additional songs as a replacement.
I still have a Japanese vinyl version I listen to. It has a poster inside that I have never seen elsewhere.
So, to contradict you I will purchase the new release with the additional songs as a replacement.
Quote
ironbellyWhich CD is that?Quote
georgemcdonnell314
I am sure there are plenty of songs they can polish up and release. None of us really know all the unfinished tracks.
Ironically my B&B CD is starting to have skips in it so I will be buying the new disc regardless.
I would rather check the second hand market for a cheap CBS CD for a replacement. That CD tops both Virgin remaster and Japanese only SHM CD originated from the flat transfer of the original master tape. Hardly the sound quality of the new release will be better than that.
Re: Black and Blue 2025
Posted by:
ironbelly
()
Date: June 13, 2025 00:55
Well, that is your choice.Quote
georgemcdonnell314
I am not interested in buying cheap version. Most of the CD's I have been purchased in the 1980's so I am sure they are worn out.
I still have a Japanese vinyl version I listen to. It has a poster inside that I have never seen elsewhere.
So, to contradict you I will purchase the new release with the additional songs as a replacement.Quote
ironbellyWhich CD is that?Quote
georgemcdonnell314
I am sure there are plenty of songs they can polish up and release. None of us really know all the unfinished tracks.
Ironically my B&B CD is starting to have skips in it so I will be buying the new disc regardless.
I would rather check the second hand market for a cheap CBS CD for a replacement. That CD tops both Virgin remaster and Japanese only SHM CD originated from the flat transfer of the original master tape. Hardly the sound quality of the new release will be better than that.
I mean, nobody is forcing you to purchase something specific.
I am just saying that the old CBS CD is hard to beat in terms of sound quality. And that version (it was on the market from 1986 till 1994) is dirt cheap now.
I am 99% sure that the new remaster will be brickwalled to death and will sound like 40th Anniversary reissue of Tattoo You (or close to that). So, you know, the new version will be a new experience.
I also do not understand what you mean by 'worn out' CD. It is a CD, not a vinyl record. From my experience it is rather hard to make a CD not suitable for a playback. Unless you overheat it or make a deep scratch on the label side. But that is a severe mishandling. Black and Blue was not pressed by Nimbus UK or PDO UK, thus a specific type of rot is off the table. I am just curious what particular CD of yours is skipping.
Re: Black and Blue 2025
Posted by:
kovach
()
Date: June 13, 2025 01:20
Quote
ironbellyQuote
georgemcdonnell314
I am not interested in buying cheap version. Most of the CD's I have been purchased in the 1980's so I am sure they are worn out.
I still have a Japanese vinyl version I listen to. It has a poster inside that I have never seen elsewhere.
So, to contradict you I will purchase the new release with the additional songs as a replacement.Quote
ironbellyI also do not understand what you mean by 'worn out' CD. It is a CD, not a vinyl record. From my experience it is rather hard to make a CD not suitable for a playback. Unless you overheat it or make a deep scratch on the label side. But that is a severe mishandling. Black and Blue was not pressed by Nimbus UK or PDO UK, thus a specific type of rot is off the table. I am just curious what particular CD of yours is skipping.Quote
georgemcdonnell314
I am sure there are plenty of songs they can polish up and release. None of us really know all the unfinished tracks.
Ironically my B&B CD is starting to have skips in it so I will be buying the new disc regardless.
I have maybe 1200 CD's, now I don't play them all daily but have never had one fail outside of me accidently scratching it deeply. I have read they can fail but have never had it happen.
Re: Black and Blue 2025
Posted by:
georgemcdonnell314
()
Date: June 13, 2025 16:47
[
I cannot answer why the disc skips. There are no bumps dents or dings. All my CD's and albums are well cared for.
It is the only CD I have the does it.
As I said, I have a vinyl version I listen to.
I will purchase the new CD for the additional material.
quote=kovach]
I cannot answer why the disc skips. There are no bumps dents or dings. All my CD's and albums are well cared for.
It is the only CD I have the does it.
As I said, I have a vinyl version I listen to.
I will purchase the new CD for the additional material.
quote=kovach]
Quote
ironbellyQuote
georgemcdonnell314
I am not interested in buying cheap version. Most of the CD's I have been purchased in the 1980's so I am sure they are worn out.
I still have a Japanese vinyl version I listen to. It has a poster inside that I have never seen elsewhere.
So, to contradict you I will purchase the new release with the additional songs as a replacement.Quote
ironbellyI also do not understand what you mean by 'worn out' CD. It is a CD, not a vinyl record. From my experience it is rather hard to make a CD not suitable for a playback. Unless you overheat it or make a deep scratch on the label side. But that is a severe mishandling. Black and Blue was not pressed by Nimbus UK or PDO UK, thus a specific type of rot is off the table. I am just curious what particular CD of yours is skipping.Quote
georgemcdonnell314
I am sure there are plenty of songs they can polish up and release. None of us really know all the unfinished tracks.
Ironically my B&B CD is starting to have skips in it so I will be buying the new disc regardless.
I have maybe 1200 CD's, now I don't play them all daily but have never had one fail outside of me accidently scratching it deeply. I have read they can fail but have never had it happen.
Re: Black and Blue 2025
Posted by:
GasLightStreet
()
Date: June 13, 2025 23:19
Nobody knows anything so no one can say anything.
If it's just two extra songs - they know no one will bother.
If KEBWORTH is included perhaps it will sell in line with what they think, which is probably only about 250,000.
Which is beyond extremely weak for Rolling Stones fans' numbers - where are they:
Dying. Or not caring.
Too late to make the money like The Beatles did in the mid 1990s.
If it's just two extra songs - they know no one will bother.
If KEBWORTH is included perhaps it will sell in line with what they think, which is probably only about 250,000.
Which is beyond extremely weak for Rolling Stones fans' numbers - where are they:
Dying. Or not caring.
Too late to make the money like The Beatles did in the mid 1990s.
Re: Black and Blue 2025
Posted by:
Munichhilton
()
Date: June 14, 2025 01:20
They haven't exhausted the CD case made out of Keith's hair idea. That WILL sell...
Re: Black and Blue 2025
Posted by:
Glimmerest
()
Date: June 14, 2025 01:25
Quote
Munichhilton
They haven't exhausted the CD case made out of Keith's hair idea. That WILL sell...
The WHAT?
Re: Black and Blue 2025
Posted by:
Munichhilton
()
Date: June 14, 2025 01:56
Quote
GlimmerestQuote
Munichhilton
They haven't exhausted the CD case made out of Keith's hair idea. That WILL sell...
The WHAT?
CD
Re: Black and Blue 2025
Posted by:
Glimmerest
()
Date: June 14, 2025 02:12
Quote
MunichhiltonQuote
GlimmerestQuote
Munichhilton
They haven't exhausted the CD case made out of Keith's hair idea. That WILL sell...
The WHAT?
CD
No I mean did they really consider making a CD out of Keith's hair?
Re: Black and Blue 2025
Posted by:
Munichhilton
()
Date: June 14, 2025 02:45
Quote
GlimmerestQuote
MunichhiltonQuote
GlimmerestQuote
Munichhilton
They haven't exhausted the CD case made out of Keith's hair idea. That WILL sell...
The WHAT?
CD
No I mean did they really consider making a CD out of Keith's hair?
Don't know. I'm sharing ideas. Maybe some of Ron's hair too?
I'm spitballing...
Re: Black and Blue 2025
Posted by:
GasLightStreet
()
Date: June 14, 2025 09:27
Quote
ProfessorWolf
i think there are legal issues related to who owns the rights to the paris shows but i'm unsure if that applies to the audio or the video or both
one of the earl's court shows would be cool
Those legalities were most likely dealt with decades ago. Promo whatever owns the rights, right? But there has to be an agreement for a release.
Perhaps at the time they only considered whatever for LOVE YOU LIVE so Knebworth wasn't an option - or there were legal aspects at the time that needed more time.
They could've released Knebworth in 1977 if they wanted to. They didn't. Perhaps it will be part of the 2025 BAB deluxe.
They've logically got a few more deluxe reissues if they want them, IORR, ER and U, but why would they bother with DIRTY WORK and STEEL WHEELS at this point?
They all think DW sucks so that won't happen. Rightfully so.
VL deluxe was a joke. No need to bother with BTB or ABB.
The deluxe reissues are a joke in the long run: they don't make much money, as UMG is probably hoping, and hardly any "other" music is included. Online extras from whenever make more sense - it costs next to nothing to do that as opposed to printing whatever and cardboard whatever and blah blah blah whatever.
It's done. They truly missed out on the deluxe reissues meaning anything - they could've done it with Virgin in the 1990s when people were still interested.
Re: Black and Blue 2025
Posted by:
kovach
()
Date: June 14, 2025 18:01
I do have to wonder why they bother, the can't make much $$ on them, but I'm glad they do because I really enjoy them!
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