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Re: Black and Blue 2025
Posted by: jackflash27 ()
Date: February 26, 2025 19:13

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I think the Some Girls deluxe stand alone cuts, as an album is better that most of what they have released since Undercover, excepting perhaps HD.

That is a fabulous country album and should have had it's own release and not been directly linked to Some Girls as some sort of castoffs, "songs that didn't quite make the cut" - type release. I think it's better than Blue & Lonesome.

I agree to that. I don't care much about the GHS, Exile, Tattoo you and SF bonus tracks, they're all very inferior to the main album. Most of them are unfinished demo's anyway. But the bonus disc from the Some girls deluxe edition is fabulous. It would indeed have been a very descent album on its own and deserves more credit than being a 'bonus disc'.

Re: Black and Blue 2025
Posted by: DelcoProud ()
Date: February 26, 2025 20:15

I happen to enjoy all of the bonus material on all the reissues, and they get a lot of play on my systems. (My only complaint is basically that I'd like to have more!)

But like others here, IMHO the Some Girls bonus disk is a cut above. It hangs together like a proper album and could easily have been issued as a country & western statement akin to what Blue & Lonesome was for the band's R&B sensibilities. Love it!

Re: Black and Blue 2025
Posted by: Spud ()
Date: February 27, 2025 10:22

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..But like others here, IMHO the Some Girls bonus disk is a cut above. It hangs together like a proper album and... Love it!

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It's probably one of my favourite albums...


Big shame it never came out on vinyl sad smiley

Re: Black and Blue 2025
Posted by: MadMax ()
Date: February 27, 2025 12:23

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DelcoProud
I happen to enjoy all of the bonus material on all the reissues, and they get a lot of play on my systems. (My only complaint is basically that I'd like to have more!)

But like others here, IMHO the Some Girls bonus disk is a cut above. It hangs together like a proper album and could easily have been issued as a country & western statement akin to what Blue & Lonesome was for the band's R&B sensibilities. Love it!

I agree 100%. My wet dream is to have a proper Country album from the lads in the same vein as Blue and Lonesome.
IMHO Keep Up Blues is the best thing they've released since Keys To Your Love and Don't Stop. That dry, Tele through a Fender Twin with Charlie's precious syncops keeping up the chops-sound is what I want all day longsmileys with beer

Re: Black and Blue 2025
Posted by: DelcoProud ()
Date: February 27, 2025 12:44

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I agree 100%. My wet dream is to have a proper Country album from the lads in the same vein as Blue and Lonesome.
IMHO Keep Up Blues is the best thing they've released since Keys To Your Love and Don't Stop. That dry, Tele through a Fender Twin with Charlie's precious syncops keeping up the chops-sound is what I want all day longsmileys with beer

TOTALLY. 'Keep Up Blues' is fantastic, starting with that rich, throaty guitar lick and everything that flows from it.

Re: Black and Blue 2025
Date: February 27, 2025 12:44

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DelcoProud
I happen to enjoy all of the bonus material on all the reissues, and they get a lot of play on my systems. (My only complaint is basically that I'd like to have more!)

But like others here, IMHO the Some Girls bonus disk is a cut above. It hangs together like a proper album and could easily have been issued as a country & western statement akin to what Blue & Lonesome was for the band's R&B sensibilities. Love it!

I agree 100%. My wet dream is to have a proper Country album from the lads in the same vein as Blue and Lonesome.
IMHO Keep Up Blues is the best thing they've released since Keys To Your Love and Don't Stop. That dry, Tele through a Fender Twin with Charlie's precious syncops keeping up the chops-sound is what I want all day longsmileys with beer

Keith's guitar track must surely be a Strat? It sounds lovely just the same thumbs up

Re: Black and Blue 2025
Posted by: MadMax ()
Date: February 27, 2025 12:53

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I happen to enjoy all of the bonus material on all the reissues, and they get a lot of play on my systems. (My only complaint is basically that I'd like to have more!)

But like others here, IMHO the Some Girls bonus disk is a cut above. It hangs together like a proper album and could easily have been issued as a country & western statement akin to what Blue & Lonesome was for the band's R&B sensibilities. Love it!

I agree 100%. My wet dream is to have a proper Country album from the lads in the same vein as Blue and Lonesome.
IMHO Keep Up Blues is the best thing they've released since Keys To Your Love and Don't Stop. That dry, Tele through a Fender Twin with Charlie's precious syncops keeping up the chops-sound is what I want all day longsmileys with beer

Keith's guitar track must surely be a Strat? It sounds lovely just the same thumbs up

Of course Dandy, I was refering to the sound of Keep Up Blues but Charlie's chops are ever-present thank God smileys with beer

Re: Black and Blue 2025
Posted by: Rockman ()
Date: February 27, 2025 13:01

When Your Gone .... thats the one that slays ...



ROCKMAN

Re: Black and Blue 2025
Posted by: MadMax ()
Date: February 27, 2025 16:20

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When Your Gone .... thats the one that slays ...

Yeah that's a great one too Terry! It's just that the intro riff, Charlie's shuffle beat and Mick's lyrics IMHO eclipse WYG even if that's a helluva tune as well!

smileys with beer



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Re: Black and Blue 2025
Date: February 27, 2025 16:31

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Rockman
When Your Gone .... thats the one that slays ...

Yeah that's a great one too Terry! It's just that the intro riff, Charlie's shuffle beat and Mick's lyrics IMHO eclipse WYG even if that's a helluva tune as well!

smileys with beer

The riff was great on Redeyes, and it remained great on When You're Gone smileys with beer

Re: Black and Blue 2025
Posted by: Rockman ()
Date: February 27, 2025 18:55

Yeah Redeyes ..... 'Wanna play somethun.??? .....



ROCKMAN

Re: Black and Blue 2025
Posted by: treaclefingers ()
Date: February 27, 2025 18:58

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Rockman
When Your Gone .... thats the one that slays ...

Awesome yes.

I think, and this is going to possibly get me into trouble, that they should added Everything Turns To Gold, the great Shattered b-side, to Some Girls, and removed Faraway Eyes, and released it in 1979 along with the rest of the Some Girls Deluxe cuts in a pure country album.

It would have stood as another all time classic.

Re: Black and Blue 2025
Posted by: tomcat2006 ()
Date: February 28, 2025 00:29

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treaclefingers
I think the Some Girls deluxe stand alone cuts, as an album is better that most of what they have released since Undercover, excepting perhaps HD.

That is a fabulous country album and should have had it's own release and not been directly linked to Some Girls as some sort of castoffs, "songs that didn't quite make the cut" - type release. I think it's better than Blue & Lonesome.

I agree to that. I don't care much about the GHS, Exile, Tattoo you and SF bonus tracks, they're all very inferior to the main album. Most of them are unfinished demo's anyway. But the bonus disc from the Some girls deluxe edition is fabulous. It would indeed have been a very descent album on its own and deserves more credit than being a 'bonus disc'.

Totally agree that the Some Girls extras should have been released as a standalone album. Pure genius.

Re: Black and Blue 2025
Posted by: GasLightStreet ()
Date: February 28, 2025 02:45

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treaclefingers
I think the Some Girls deluxe stand alone cuts, as an album is better that most of what they have released since Undercover, excepting perhaps HD.

That is a fabulous country album and should have had it's own release and not been directly linked to Some Girls as some sort of castoffs, "songs that didn't quite make the cut" - type release. I think it's better than Blue & Lonesome.

I agree to that. I don't care much about the GHS, Exile, Tattoo you and SF bonus tracks, they're all very inferior to the main album. Most of them are unfinished demo's anyway. But the bonus disc from the Some girls deluxe edition is fabulous. It would indeed have been a very descent album on its own and deserves more credit than being a 'bonus disc'.

They weren't unfinished demos. They were unfinished studio recordings. Big difference. Some of the tracks on the TY deluxe were SG tracks. There's a whole other SG album if one wants it, with or without SG session tracks finished for ER and TY proper.

Re: Black and Blue 2025
Posted by: GasLightStreet ()
Date: February 28, 2025 02:49

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I don't get the reissues for the album, just the extras. In fact, why they bother to include the album in any of the super deluxe releases is pointless.

There is a a funny social construction called money that makes funny things happen.

But then again it would be funny if someone buys, say, The Super Deluxe Edition of BLACK AND BLUE and finds out that there is not that album at all...

- Doxa

You think it's UMe's way of getting me to buy their shitty remastering of whatever album since I didn't get any of them in their standard edition? It's like Ume knows.

I've only listened to the 2011 SOME GIRLS. Only three songs in, I think, and that was enough. Never played it again. SF and TY didn't bother. Only got the EXILE rarities stand alone album.

I will not be cajoled into listening/playing any remastered Stones album by Ume.


You appear to be a tough tough tough not f***ing around guy, but, really, I think you should show a bit more sympathy for the record industry. After all, they bring you the music that makes your heart grow fonder and enrichens your soul from musicians you without these corporations most likely would never had heard from. Seriously.

If the music industry wouldn't ruin the releases with the horrendous brickwalled mastering and remastering it would be much more interesting, but weak bonus tracks are weak bonus tracks, among the good and great bonus tracks.

They got my money for the destroyed remaster with the deluxe reissues except EOMS. That is not a reason to be grateful.

Re: Black and Blue 2025
Posted by: MadMax ()
Date: February 28, 2025 11:21

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treaclefingers
I think the Some Girls deluxe stand alone cuts, as an album is better that most of what they have released since Undercover, excepting perhaps HD.

That is a fabulous country album and should have had it's own release and not been directly linked to Some Girls as some sort of castoffs, "songs that didn't quite make the cut" - type release. I think it's better than Blue & Lonesome.

I agree to that. I don't care much about the GHS, Exile, Tattoo you and SF bonus tracks, they're all very inferior to the main album. Most of them are unfinished demo's anyway. But the bonus disc from the Some girls deluxe edition is fabulous. It would indeed have been a very descent album on its own and deserves more credit than being a 'bonus disc'.

They weren't unfinished demos. They were unfinished studio recordings. Big difference. Some of the tracks on the TY deluxe were SG tracks. There's a whole other SG album if one wants it, with or without SG session tracks finished for ER and TY proper.

Yep, and for the record, we all want Jagger & Co to come up with summat similar with B & B and also ER (and Undercover??). The bonus disc of Tattoo You is rather good, almost as good as the SG one IMHO smileys with beer

Re: Black and Blue 2025
Posted by: GasLightStreet ()
Date: March 1, 2025 05:44

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treaclefingers
I think the Some Girls deluxe stand alone cuts, as an album is better that most of what they have released since Undercover, excepting perhaps HD.

That is a fabulous country album and should have had it's own release and not been directly linked to Some Girls as some sort of castoffs, "songs that didn't quite make the cut" - type release. I think it's better than Blue & Lonesome.

I agree to that. I don't care much about the GHS, Exile, Tattoo you and SF bonus tracks, they're all very inferior to the main album. Most of them are unfinished demo's anyway. But the bonus disc from the Some girls deluxe edition is fabulous. It would indeed have been a very descent album on its own and deserves more credit than being a 'bonus disc'.

They weren't unfinished demos. They were unfinished studio recordings. Big difference. Some of the tracks on the TY deluxe were SG tracks. There's a whole other SG album if one wants it, with or without SG session tracks finished for ER and TY proper.

Yep, and for the record, we all want Jagger & Co to come up with summat similar with B & B and also ER (and Undercover??). The bonus disc of Tattoo You is rather good, almost as good as the SG one IMHO smileys with beer

The Rolling Stones recorded 40+ songs for SOME GIRLS.

And EMOTIONAL RESCUE.

1979 until late 1982.

80 something songs recorded.

SG had 10 songs, the deluxe had 10 actual SG sessions tracks.

They have fibbed about what's included for the deluxe reissue bonus tracks. EOMS, GHS and SG.

Can't say that about TY although it somewhat points to what was also considered in 1981 but what was considered for said albums like, It's A Lie and Fiji Jim.


Here's the horrible point:

Remove the 20 SG (plus the 10 deluxe) songs plus 2 on ER and the 2 on TY... there's a lot left over - still - from the SG sessions. And the ER sessions.

A nice amount leftover from the U sessions. A nice amount leftover from the B&B sessions. Still a bit leftover from the GHS sessions.

It's ridiculous how much hasn't been included.

Maybe Keith said, Let's do like The Beatles and put whatever all out there.

Charlie: Wot?

Ronnie: Yeah!!!!! Got 'em up right! Loads of tracks! I remember!

Mick: I can't be bothered to go through such mundane old tracks.

Keith: Now? You used to. We spent years going through old tracks, you old sod.

UMG: Mick, you will do ABCDEFG with mundane old tracks and be extremely bothered.

Mick: Ok.

Keith: Ha ha!

Re: Black and Blue 2025
Posted by: Father Ted ()
Date: April 13, 2025 14:08

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I don't get the reissues for the album, just the extras. In fact, why they bother to include the album in any of the super deluxe releases is pointless.

There is a a funny social construction called money that makes funny things happen.

But then again it would be funny if someone buys, say, The Super Deluxe Edition of BLACK AND BLUE and finds out that there is not that album at all...

- Doxa

Don’t give them ideas. They’re just the kind of band who would do this.

Re: Black and Blue 2025
Posted by: Big Al ()
Date: April 13, 2025 16:04

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GasLightStreet

I don't get the reissues for the album, just the extras. In fact, why they bother to include the album in any of the super deluxe releases is pointless.

There is a a funny social construction called money that makes funny things happen.

But then again it would be funny if someone buys, say, The Super Deluxe Edition of BLACK AND BLUE and finds out that there is not that album at all...

- Doxa

Don’t give them ideas. They’re just the kind of band who would do this.

Well, it’s a ridiculous notion! It wouldn’t be ‘Super Deluxe’ set if it did not include the album in question. The whole point of a set like this is take the original and expand upon it with tons of extra’s and fancy packaging. Otherwise, it’s just a ‘Black & Blue’ outtakes album.

Re: Black and Blue 2025
Posted by: doitywoik ()
Date: April 13, 2025 17:26

As always the question is, how many tracks are really completed, production-wise or at least songwriting-wise.

Re: Black and Blue 2025
Posted by: GasLightStreet ()
Date: April 13, 2025 19:43

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As always the question is, how many tracks are really completed, production-wise or at least songwriting-wise.

The last take of something is the finished songwriting, musically, unless they do more later, like they did with Cellophane Trousers, but if an earlier take is used, the rest of the songwriting is lyrics/singing.

So it's strictly down to what's finished production wise. 2 SG tracks went on ER. Several ER tracks went on TY. Some of those were started during SG. Additional SG/ER tracks went on SGD and TYD that were added to/finished about 40 years later.

What appears to not happen with the Stones is demos, as in "not studio recordings" because they write as they go in the studio (generally) so there are early versions of things, like Good Time Women. It's arguably a demo in regard to 'an early version of Tumbling Dice' but it's not a demo in regard to what a demo is.

The Beatles recorded demos and there's an entire album of demos included with the deluxe THE BEATLES.

The Stones did a lot of recording for BLACK AND BLUE but reading what's available a portion of it was just rambling. There are leftovers that were never worked on again, apparently, like I Got A Letter, Act Together, Built That Way, I Love Ladies and loads of blues tunes in playing only.

The Stones probably have 20 albums worth of blues recordings that haven't been on albums or used for B-sides.

Re: Black and Blue 2025
Posted by: HardRiffin ()
Date: April 14, 2025 19:54

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treaclefingers
I think the Some Girls deluxe stand alone cuts, as an album is better that most of what they have released since Undercover, excepting perhaps HD.

That is a fabulous country album and should have had it's own release and not been directly linked to Some Girls as some sort of castoffs, "songs that didn't quite make the cut" - type release. I think it's better than Blue & Lonesome.

I agree to that. I don't care much about the GHS, Exile, Tattoo you and SF bonus tracks, they're all very inferior to the main album. Most of them are unfinished demo's anyway. But the bonus disc from the Some girls deluxe edition is fabulous. It would indeed have been a very descent album on its own and deserves more credit than being a 'bonus disc'.

thumbs up

Re: Black and Blue 2025
Posted by: GasLightStreet ()
Date: April 15, 2025 06:32

People keep saying "demos".

Re: Black and Blue 2025
Posted by: 24FPS ()
Date: April 16, 2025 03:42

Just dropped in to see if there was any progress on Black and Blue actually becoming a Super Deluxe release. Doesn't look like there's any news on that front.

Re: Black and Blue 2025
Posted by: GasLightStreet ()
Date: April 16, 2025 04:56

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24FPS
Just dropped in to see if there was any progress on Black and Blue actually becoming a Super Deluxe release. Doesn't look like there's any news on that front.

There's zero.

Why there's zero hype is strange. The release was 4-23-1976. Ronnie was announced April 14, 1975, made a Mick Taylor's replacement, then 4-23-1976 officially named as a Rolling Stone.

But not paid like one.

Will be surprised if there's anything after this - if it happens.

Re: Black and Blue 2025
Date: April 16, 2025 10:23

Let's see what happens on April 23 next year smiling smiley

Re: Black and Blue 2025
Posted by: FrogSugar ()
Date: April 16, 2025 11:25

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Let's see what happens on April 23 next year smiling smiley

Exactly...they'll prolly release something this September, take our money during the Xmas season and then announce it in February of next year, just in time for the 40th anniversary...and then maybe the Paris 76 show gets a September 2026 release.

Amirite?

Re: Black and Blue 2025
Posted by: MadMax ()
Date: April 16, 2025 13:22

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Let's see what happens on April 23 next year smiling smiley

Exactly...they'll prolly release something this September, take our money during the Xmas season and then announce it in February of next year, just in time for the 40th anniversary...and then maybe the Paris 76 show gets a September 2026 release.

Amirite?

Sounds good to me! smileys with beer

Re: Black and Blue 2025
Posted by: GasLightStreet ()
Date: April 17, 2025 09:21

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Let's see what happens on April 23 next year smiling smiley

Exactly...they'll prolly release something this September, take our money during the Xmas season and then announce it in February of next year, just in time for the 40th anniversary...and then maybe the Paris 76 show gets a September 2026 release.

Amirite?

No.

Fiftieth.

Re: Black and Blue 2025
Posted by: donvis ()
Date: May 4, 2025 06:31

I suspect this will be the May 8 announcement! A Super Deluxe.

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