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Re: Black and Blue 2025
Posted by: Nellcote1971 ()
Date: November 27, 2024 14:46

They didn't remix TY, why would they remix B&B which everyone agrees already is the best SOUNDING Stones album?

Re: Black and Blue 2025
Posted by: ironbelly ()
Date: November 27, 2024 15:10

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Mabru
I would see of the rumor is true a box like this:

Disc 1: orginal album (remixed)
Disc 2: outtakes/demos
Disc 3 & 4: Paris or Knebworth show
Blu Ray 1: Atmos mixes
Blu Ray 2: full concert and tour documentary
You forgot 3 or 4 types of color vinyl winking smiley.

Re: Black and Blue 2025
Posted by: peoplewitheyes ()
Date: November 27, 2024 15:25

Haha, Doxa, maybe you're right that we are all so negative... But, once bitten and all that. We know from a decade of re-releases that they mostly underdeliver and fall far short of what could have been.

But who knows, perhaps this time they'll surprise us with 10 hours of outtakes, early versions, other songs, studio chatter etc...

>grinning smiley<

Re: Black and Blue 2025
Posted by: Mabru ()
Date: November 27, 2024 15:43

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ironbelly
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Mabru
I would see of the rumor is true a box like this:

Disc 1: orginal album (remixed)
Disc 2: outtakes/demos
Disc 3 & 4: Paris or Knebworth show
Blu Ray 1: Atmos mixes
Blu Ray 2: full concert and tour documentary
You forgot 3 or 4 types of color vinyl winking smiley.

Spot on!!

Re: Black and Blue 2025
Date: December 1, 2024 01:23

If only.




Re: Black and Blue 2025
Posted by: Blueranger ()
Date: December 1, 2024 20:15

There is absolutely not one single reason to remix this album. It sounds sharp, focused and dynamic. The best recorded Stones album by a long mile. Even a remaster would possibly don’t do it justice. Use the CBS or Virgin digital master. And the analogue tape for the vinyl.

Re: Black and Blue 2025
Posted by: GasLightStreet ()
Date: December 1, 2024 20:31

Perhaps the remix of GHS was, oh how classic, because of The Beatles albums being remixed.

That's over with. Not sure what more could be remixed due to the limitations of the masters although they could get the Peter Jackson treatment.

Re: Black and Blue 2025
Posted by: Nellcote1971 ()
Date: December 1, 2024 20:37

GHS had a decade long reputation for sounding "bad" or muddy... Hence the remix.

Re: Black and Blue 2025
Posted by: rbk ()
Date: December 2, 2024 17:02

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Nellcote1971
GHS had a decade long reputation for sounding "bad" or muddy... Hence the remix.

Exactly. "Black & Blue" has long had the reputation as the best STONES recording sonically. Remixing it wouldn't make it sound better, only different.

Re: Black and Blue 2025
Posted by: GasLightStreet ()
Date: December 2, 2024 18:49

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rbk
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Nellcote1971
GHS had a decade long reputation for sounding "bad" or muddy... Hence the remix.

Exactly. "Black & Blue" has long had the reputation as the best STONES recording sonically. Remixing it wouldn't make it sound better, only different.

EMOTIONAL RESCUE sounds incredible. BLACK AND BLUE is fantastic, no doubt, but ER has a little more kick to it. Maybe it's the mastering or EQing but it's got a bottom to it that's just seeping out of the pocket, a little bit of rumble that kicks, unlike SOME GIRLS, which sounds like it was recorded in a glass room - probably the worst sounding Stones album, sonically.

Obviously the difference is sonically because if "produced" is used it's not the same.

Re: Black and Blue 2025
Posted by: Spud ()
Date: December 5, 2024 09:59

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GasLightStreet

..EMOTIONAL RESCUE sounds incredible. BLACK AND BLUE is fantastic, no doubt, but ER has a little more kick to it. Maybe it's the mastering or EQing but it's got a bottom to it that's just seeping out of the pocket, a little bit of rumble that kicks, unlike SOME GIRLS, which sounds like it was recorded in a glass room - probably the worst sounding Stones album, sonically....

This is true of most SG releases... but not the original vinyl release, which is not an overtly "Hi Fi" sound ; it's less immediate in presentation, but has a more natural instrumental timbre and some depth.

Re: Black and Blue 2025
Posted by: GasLightStreet ()
Date: December 5, 2024 23:15

So far only TATTOO YOU had a basic anniversary deluxe reissue (not quite two months after) because nothing else has been. If they had wanted to for EMOTIONAL RESCUE they missed it.

They do whatever BLACK AND BLUE deluxe that leaves just a few albums to mess with, although the VOODOO reissue was a joke. Surprised they're even bothering, actually.

Knowing what they have chosen to ignore (SOME GIRLS being the biggest sham, GHS the second) in regards to leftovers there's probably no reason to have any positive expectations for B&B 2025.

Re: Black and Blue 2025
Posted by: Munichhilton ()
Date: December 6, 2024 01:24

All the greatness that is Black & Blue needs to come to fit in today's standard earbuds. Streaming and compressing. As such it will need its dynamics clipped by someone that knows how. Such is the remaster. English Rose though, am I right?

Re: Black and Blue 2025
Posted by: GasLightStreet ()
Date: December 9, 2024 04:35

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Munichhilton
All the greatness that is Black & Blue needs to come to fit in today's standard earbuds. Streaming and compressing. As such it will need its dynamics clipped by someone that knows how. Such is the remaster. English Rose though, am I right?

Yes, it will be ruined like the rest of the albums have been because of earbuds. How people haven't gone deaf because of the brickwalling is perhaps a future study.

I don't get the reissues for the album, just the extras. In fact, why they bother to include the album in any of the super deluxe releases is pointless.

Re: Black and Blue 2025
Posted by: schwonek ()
Date: December 9, 2024 11:40

I read that there is a rumor of the Paris 76 show being released. I would love to get a release kind of like GHS with Brussels.

Re: Black and Blue 2025
Posted by: Doxa ()
Date: December 9, 2024 12:09

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GasLightStreet

I don't get the reissues for the album, just the extras. In fact, why they bother to include the album in any of the super deluxe releases is pointless.

There is a a funny social construction called money that makes funny things happen.

But then again it would be funny if someone buys, say, The Super Deluxe Edition of BLACK AND BLUE and finds out that there is not that album at all...

- Doxa

Re: Black and Blue 2025
Posted by: GasLightStreet ()
Date: December 9, 2024 23:03

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Doxa
Quote
GasLightStreet

I don't get the reissues for the album, just the extras. In fact, why they bother to include the album in any of the super deluxe releases is pointless.

There is a a funny social construction called money that makes funny things happen.

But then again it would be funny if someone buys, say, The Super Deluxe Edition of BLACK AND BLUE and finds out that there is not that album at all...

- Doxa

You think it's UMe's way of getting me to buy their shitty remastering of whatever album since I didn't get any of them in their standard edition? It's like Ume knows.

I've only listened to the 2011 SOME GIRLS. Only three songs in, I think, and that was enough. Never played it again. SF and TY didn't bother. Only got the EXILE rarities stand alone album.

I will not be cajoled into listening/playing any remastered Stones album by Ume.

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