Just watched it today and it sounds n looks brilliant wishing I'd been there was at the 2 shows prior to Shepherd's Bush Edinburgh n Sheffield great shows too cheers IORR Bring on the 2025 Europe tour

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Nice to see that Chris Kimsey was involved on Welcome To Shepherd's Bush.

Regarding Keith-solos, this one has always been one of my favourites:





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Pity Charlie sounds like he’s pounding a wet cardboard box

The drums sound fabulous on everything that Chris Kimsey engineered or produced, especially the snare.

Mathijs

AMEN

Chris Kimsey should produce Every Band who are the bollox in my humble opinion!

He's a genius!

Next Stones, Oasis, Bruce , GnR's and Ac/Dc,
Give Mr Kimsey the control and we'll have MAGIC!

Sounds good on vinyl, and there are plenty of good highlights...so I'm happy with it.

Good drum sound , with vocal and instrumental timbres captured better than is usually the case with with these archive live releases.

in the end we can say this was a great xmas present from the band!
the sort of present that makes one longing for more

I might spring for the Blue Ray if I get some Christmas pennies...

...failing that, I'll wait for it to turn up on the telly next year some time

Hi guys,
Which software (if possible freeware) do you use to wacth the Bluray on your computer ?
VLC doesn't work on this one...
Thanks in advance



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Which software (if possible freeware) do you use to watch the Bluray on your computer ?

Freeware would be VLC. But first you have to extract the Volume Unique Key (VUK) of this BluRay with a special software (FindVUK) and then add the key to the KEYDB.cfg - [VideoByte.org] .

You could also rip the BluRay first and then play the unencrypted content with VLC. There're BR-Ripper like MakeMKV, DVDFab or others: [en.Wikipedia.org] . The former RedFox was killed in June 2024.

A commercial BluRay software player would be PowerDVD by CyberLink.

I am using this when I need to read a BR on my computer :

[www.leawo.org]

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I am using this when I need to read a BR on my computer :

[www.leawo.org]

I use the same software on Mac and it works fine

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In terms of sound.... after all the bad experiences in recent years, most notably Tattoo you 40th anniversary and most of their live records, Shepherd has a fantastic quality.
Apart from that, a great concert with a great setlist....fortunately not so many of the usual suspect songs.

Ok, the chorus vocals on Shattered irritate me and I'll never like You got me rocking.

The album did not enter the UK Top 100, it was #41 in the midweek ranking but once all the pre-sales were computed, it did not sell more and collapsed at the end of the week. It sold less than 1900 units, which is what the 100th album on the chart sold.

Previous release Live At The Wiltern ranked at #95 in March with 1,700 units.

In Germany, Shepherd's Bush is at #6 in the general Top 100 album charts - [www.OffizielleCharts.de] .

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In Germany, Shepherd's Bush is at #6 in the general Top 100 album charts - [www.OffizielleCharts.de] .

It would be even in a better position if the Blu-ray version wouldn't be sold out at most places.

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The album did not enter the UK Top 100, it was #41 in the midweek ranking but once all the pre-sales were computed, it did not sell more and collapsed at the end of the week. It sold less than 1900 units, which is what the 100th album on the chart sold.

Previous release Live At The Wiltern ranked at #95 in March with 1,700 units.

As far as I’m aware, publicity was minimal in the U.K. I knew about it through this forum, being on the Stones’ emailing list and YouTube because I’m a hardcore fan.

Anyway, it wasn’t exactly the finest show they’ve ever put on.



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avaible online on the 3sat mediathek

Shepherd's Bush: direct link to the Video (geo-blocked DE/AT/CH). Available until 14-Dec-2025 - [www.3sat.de] .

There is something very strange with this release....it doesn't do anything for me. Just totally nothing. It doesn't move me, thrill me, energize me. It doesn't bother me, like most live shows with Daryll Jones do bother me. The sound doesn't even bother me, like the sound of most recent live releases bother me.

Very strange indeed.

Mathijs

So maybe it's a good recording of a performance you don't much care for ?

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There is something very strange with this release....it doesn't do anything for me. Just totally nothing. It doesn't move me, thrill me, energize me. It doesn't bother me, like most live shows with Daryll Jones do bother me. The sound doesn't even bother me, like the sound of most recent live releases bother me.

Very strange indeed.

Mathijs

Actually I kind of felt the same. It does not move me. But then again, there have been many releases now of some good shows but the setlists are 90% the same. I do love that they release it though but I would like a compilation of rare songs played live on one album instead.

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There is something very strange with this release....it doesn't do anything for me. Just totally nothing. It doesn't move me, thrill me, energize me. It doesn't bother me, like most live shows with Daryll Jones do bother me. The sound doesn't even bother me, like the sound of most recent live releases bother me.

Very strange indeed.

Mathijs

Sounds like a you problem.

This publication is amazing. The video is very sharp and exciting and the editing is great. The sound - wow. Really good. Probably the best live Stones mix in a decade I feel. Can't wait to hear them live again.

It's a bit disappointing, I've just compared JJF on this release to Jumping Jack Flash from a novice at the actual show and Keith's guitar doesn't hit you nearly as hard on the new release.
Sure it's still brilliant but it doesn't capture that sound you get from Keith's guitar when he's on fire, it's powerful and it vibrates and booms straight into you.
Keith definitely mixed low on this release.
Here is the comparison from a spectator filming the show.
JJF 1.29.45 [youtu.be]

New release version.
[youtu.be]



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It's a bit disappointing, I've just compared JJF on this release to Jumping Jack Flash from a novice at the actual show and Keith's guitar doesn't hit you nearly as hard on the new release.
Sure it's still brilliant but it doesn't capture that sound you get from Keith's guitar when he's on fire, it's powerful and it vibrates and booms straight into you.
Keith definitely mixed low on this release.
Here is the comparison from a spectator filming the show.
JJF 1.29.45 [youtu.be]

No, he isn't. Ronnie is mixed low

Keith is loud throughout. Maybe you're referring to less punch in his guitar track, rather than that of volume?

Btw, are you listening to the vinyl, Riffie?



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It's a bit disappointing, I've just compared JJF on this release to Jumping Jack Flash from a novice at the actual show and Keith's guitar doesn't hit you nearly as hard on the new release.
Sure it's still brilliant but it doesn't capture that sound you get from Keith's guitar when he's on fire, it's powerful and it vibrates and booms straight into you.
Keith definitely mixed low on this release.
Here is the comparison from a spectator filming the show.
JJF 1.29.45 [youtu.be]

No, he isn't. Ronnie is mixed low

Keith is loud throughout. Are you listening to the vinyl, Riffie?

Listen to the two versions from my edited post, clearly Keith's power from the live show isn't captured on the release regardless of how good it sounds on vinyl. I've noticed this from just about every live release from the Stones, Keith's power seems to get diminished on the releases, that's why i have to see these guys live.
What is actually pushed right up in the Mix is Micks vocals.



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It's a bit disappointing, I've just compared JJF on this release to Jumping Jack Flash from a novice at the actual show and Keith's guitar doesn't hit you nearly as hard on the new release.
Sure it's still brilliant but it doesn't capture that sound you get from Keith's guitar when he's on fire, it's powerful and it vibrates and booms straight into you.
Keith definitely mixed low on this release.
Here is the comparison from a spectator filming the show.
JJF 1.29.45 [youtu.be]

No, he isn't. Ronnie is mixed low

Keith is loud throughout. Are you listening to the vinyl, Riffie?

Listen to the two versions from my edited post, clearly Keith's power from the live show isn't captured on the release regardless of how good it sounds on vinyl. I've noticed this from just about every live release from the Stones, Keith's power seems to get diminished on the releases, that's why i have to see these guys live.

The video recording is in mono, with low vocals. Keith's isn't really louder there, but his guitar is center, and that does something to highlight his playing somewhat. On the professional recording, he's in the right channel, in tandem with the band (including the vocals and backing vocals) - but still pretty high in the mix.

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It's a bit disappointing, I've just compared JJF on this release to Jumping Jack Flash from a novice at the actual show and Keith's guitar doesn't hit you nearly as hard on the new release.
Sure it's still brilliant but it doesn't capture that sound you get from Keith's guitar when he's on fire, it's powerful and it vibrates and booms straight into you.
Keith definitely mixed low on this release.
Here is the comparison from a spectator filming the show.
JJF 1.29.45 [youtu.be]

No, he isn't. Ronnie is mixed low

Keith is loud throughout. Are you listening to the vinyl, Riffie?

Listen to the two versions from my edited post, clearly Keith's power from the live show isn't captured on the release regardless of how good it sounds on vinyl. I've noticed this from just about every live release from the Stones, Keith's power seems to get diminished on the releases, that's why i have to see these guys live.

The video recording is in mono, with low vocals. Keith's isn't really louder there, but his guitar is center, and that does something to highlight his playing somewhat. On the professional recording, he's in the right channel, in tandem with the band (including the vocals and backing vocals) - but still pretty high in the mix.

Keith is high in the mix on the intro but as soon as Mick starts singing Mick is really pushed high in the Mix.

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It's a bit disappointing, I've just compared JJF on this release to Jumping Jack Flash from a novice at the actual show and Keith's guitar doesn't hit you nearly as hard on the new release.
Sure it's still brilliant but it doesn't capture that sound you get from Keith's guitar when he's on fire, it's powerful and it vibrates and booms straight into you.
Keith definitely mixed low on this release.
Here is the comparison from a spectator filming the show.
JJF 1.29.45 [youtu.be]

No, he isn't. Ronnie is mixed low

Keith is loud throughout. Are you listening to the vinyl, Riffie?

Listen to the two versions from my edited post, clearly Keith's power from the live show isn't captured on the release regardless of how good it sounds on vinyl. I've noticed this from just about every live release from the Stones, Keith's power seems to get diminished on the releases, that's why i have to see these guys live.

The video recording is in mono, with low vocals. Keith's isn't really louder there, but his guitar is center, and that does something to highlight his playing somewhat. On the professional recording, he's in the right channel, in tandem with the band (including the vocals and backing vocals) - but still pretty high in the mix.

Keith is high in the mix on the intro but as soon as Mick starts singing Mick is really pushed high in the Mix.

Yep, the vocals are loud on this release. However, compared to the other guitar, Keith is pretty loud himself.

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It's a bit disappointing, I've just compared JJF on this release to Jumping Jack Flash from a novice at the actual show and Keith's guitar doesn't hit you nearly as hard on the new release.
Sure it's still brilliant but it doesn't capture that sound you get from Keith's guitar when he's on fire, it's powerful and it vibrates and booms straight into you.
Keith definitely mixed low on this release.
Here is the comparison from a spectator filming the show.
JJF 1.29.45 [youtu.be]

No, he isn't. Ronnie is mixed low

Keith is loud throughout. Are you listening to the vinyl, Riffie?

Listen to the two versions from my edited post, clearly Keith's power from the live show isn't captured on the release regardless of how good it sounds on vinyl. I've noticed this from just about every live release from the Stones, Keith's power seems to get diminished on the releases, that's why i have to see these guys live.

The video recording is in mono, with low vocals. Keith's isn't really louder there, but his guitar is center, and that does something to highlight his playing somewhat. On the professional recording, he's in the right channel, in tandem with the band (including the vocals and backing vocals) - but still pretty high in the mix.

Keith is high in the mix on the intro but as soon as Mick starts singing Mick is really pushed high in the Mix.

Yep, the vocals are loud on this release. However, compared to the other guitar, Keith is pretty loud himself.

Yeah sure Keith is louder than Ronnie, but let's be honest Ronnie isn't doing much with his guitar, Keith's doing the heavy lifting.

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The album did not enter the UK Top 100, it was #41 in the midweek ranking but once all the pre-sales were computed, it did not sell more and collapsed at the end of the week. It sold less than 1900 units, which is what the 100th album on the chart sold.

Previous release Live At The Wiltern ranked at #95 in March with 1,700 units.

Although Hackney Diamonds might have gained a few younger fans it probably sent a lot of older long term diehards packing.
The Stones trying to sound relevant to younger buyers was about as successful and meaningful as Mick's solo albums.

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The album did not enter the UK Top 100, it was #41 in the midweek ranking but once all the pre-sales were computed, it did not sell more and collapsed at the end of the week. It sold less than 1900 units, which is what the 100th album on the chart sold.

Previous release Live At The Wiltern ranked at #95 in March with 1,700 units.

Although Hackney Diamonds might have gained a few younger fans it probably sent a lot of older long term diehards packing.
The Stones trying to sound relevant to younger buyers was about as successful and meaningful as Mick's solo albums.

Hopefully they bring back Don Was or Chris Kimsey.