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Re: Rolling Stones: Welcome to Shepherd's Bush
Posted by: shortfatfanny ()
Date: October 28, 2024 23:19

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I'm realy looking forward to it.
But I wonder why they don't release any current show. I don't count the HD N.Y. release. It was nice but very short. They toured in 2017, 18, 19, 21, 22 and 24. The last release was Cuba 2016.
So, hopefully they'll come up with something next year.

The last release was the live album included on Honk.

Yes, that's right. But it was just a couple of tunes and far from a complete show including video etc.
And the live tracks were only a part of the deluxe version.
It's not a couple of songs, it's 10 live songs. Still Life only has 2 more.

Yes,and the 2 more on Still Life are intro and outro, so 10 live songs as well.


Re: Rolling Stones: Welcome to Shepherd's Bush
Posted by: babyblue ()
Date: October 29, 2024 04:49

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I like the cover.

It’s so so but that’s my opinion.

Re: Rolling Stones: Welcome to Shepherd's Bush
Posted by: EasterMan ()
Date: October 29, 2024 13:38

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I'm realy looking forward to it.
But I wonder why they don't release any current show. I don't count the HD N.Y. release. It was nice but very short. They toured in 2017, 18, 19, 21, 22 and 24. The last release was Cuba 2016.
So, hopefully they'll come up with something next year.

The last release was the live album included on Honk.

Yes, that's right. But it was just a couple of tunes and far from a complete show including video etc.
And the live tracks were only a part of the deluxe version.
It's not a couple of songs, it's 10 live songs. Still Life only has 2 more.

Yes,and the 2 more on Still Life are intro and outro, so 10 live songs as well.

But only 7 tracks recorded after Cuba 2016. It's too short to represent the No Filter-tour in my opinion.

Re: Rolling Stones: Welcome to Shepherd's Bush
Date: October 29, 2024 14:00

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I'm realy looking forward to it.
But I wonder why they don't release any current show. I don't count the HD N.Y. release. It was nice but very short. They toured in 2017, 18, 19, 21, 22 and 24. The last release was Cuba 2016.
So, hopefully they'll come up with something next year.

The last release was the live album included on Honk.

Yes, that's right. But it was just a couple of tunes and far from a complete show including video etc.
And the live tracks were only a part of the deluxe version.
It's not a couple of songs, it's 10 live songs. Still Life only has 2 more.

Yes,and the 2 more on Still Life are intro and outro, so 10 live songs as well.

But only 7 tracks recorded after Cuba 2016. It's too short to represent the No Filter-tour in my opinion.

Which No Filter tour? winking smiley

They were several tours, and very different, imo.

Re: Rolling Stones: Welcome to Shepherd's Bush
Posted by: micha063 ()
Date: October 29, 2024 20:27

Anyway. The last stand alone release of a tour with cover, video was cuba 2016.

Re: Rolling Stones: Welcome to Shepherd's Bush
Posted by: hockenheim95 ()
Date: October 29, 2024 21:57

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Anyway. The last stand alone release of a tour with cover, video was cuba 2016.

If you count like this (current tour including video) there are only three real live albums - Shine A Light, Hyde Park and Havana. Everything else was either without video or a vault release.

For me Honk is not a real live album because they tracks fade out. They didn't bother to have proper transitions between the tracks. Therefore there's no flow of a live album.

Re: Rolling Stones: Welcome to Shepherd's Bush
Posted by: shortfatfanny ()
Date: October 29, 2024 22:58

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Anyway. The last stand alone release of a tour with cover, video was cuba 2016.

If you count like this (current tour including video) there are only three real live albums - Shine A Light, Hyde Park and Havana. Everything else was either without video or a vault release.

For me Honk is not a real live album because they tracks fade out. They didn't bother to have proper transitions between the tracks. Therefore there's no flow of a live album.

Grrr live !, complete with video and not labeled "vault".


Re: Rolling Stones: Welcome to Shepherd's Bush
Posted by: hockenheim95 ()
Date: October 30, 2024 09:29

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Anyway. The last stand alone release of a tour with cover, video was cuba 2016.

If you count like this (current tour including video) there are only three real live albums - Shine A Light, Hyde Park and Havana. Everything else was either without video or a vault release.

For me Honk is not a real live album because they tracks fade out. They didn't bother to have proper transitions between the tracks. Therefore there's no flow of a live album.

Grrr live !, complete with video and not labeled "vault".

None of the releases since 2018 are labelled "From the Vault" but they're clearly archive or vault releases just like Shepherd's Bush



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Re: Rolling Stones: Welcome to Shepherd's Bush
Date: October 30, 2024 09:36

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Anyway. The last stand alone release of a tour with cover, video was cuba 2016.

If you count like this (current tour including video) there are only three real live albums - Shine A Light, Hyde Park and Havana. Everything else was either without video or a vault release.

For me Honk is not a real live album because the tracks fade out. They didn't bother to have proper transitions between the tracks. Therefore there's no flow of a live album.

Do they fade out? That's weird, I never noticed! It's been a while since I listened to those tracks.

Re: Rolling Stones: Welcome to Shepherd's Bush
Posted by: ironbelly ()
Date: October 30, 2024 10:17

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For me Honk is not a real live album because the tracks fade out. They didn't bother to have proper transitions between the tracks. Therefore there's no flow of a live album.

Do they fade out? That's weird, I never noticed! It's been a while since I listened to those tracks.
Yes, there are fade outs for the crowd noise by the end of each track. Also, the beginnings of all tracks are kind or abrupt. So, that live CD3 from Honk sounds a bit unnatural. Not that unnatural as old West German London stereo CD of Got Live If You Want It but still. It has no continuous flow.

Re: Rolling Stones: Welcome to Shepherd's Bush
Posted by: micha063 ()
Date: October 30, 2024 13:11

Yes, exactly. They are not connected and there is no atmosphere of a life concert.

Re: Rolling Stones: Welcome to Shepherd's Bush
Posted by: Stone601 ()
Date: October 30, 2024 13:28

We’re excited to announce that the world premiere of Welcome to Shepherd’s Bush will take place at Vue Leicester Square, London, on Thursday 21st November!
Tickets for this event are extremely limited and we’re giving you first access… set your alarms, tickets go on sale at 5PM TONIGHT on Dice.


On 8th June 1999, the Stones performed one of their most intimate and iconic shows at Shepherd’s Bush Empire – with just 1,800 fans in attendance, the band brought their raw energy and deep cuts to this historic venue.

Fans attending the premiere will have the chance to see this electrifying film before anyone else in stunning 4K with Dolby Atmos Sound – the only release in the Stones’ live concert film archive available at this quality.

The Rolling Stones
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Re: Rolling Stones: Welcome to Shepherd's Bush
Posted by: johnnythunders ()
Date: October 30, 2024 13:33

Nothing yet on the Dice website or App that I can see

Re: Rolling Stones: Welcome to Shepherd's Bush
Posted by: bitusa2012 ()
Date: October 30, 2024 13:49

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How anyone can say the Voodoo Lounge tour was borderline bad seems borderline insane to me confused smiley

I find the Voodoo Lounge tour the worst tour they have done in their entire career.

The stage, the sound (those guitars....), the clothes, the posing, the songs, the playing -there's just nothing to like for me.

Mathijs

Incredible

They've had a couple of rather flat tours. 1975-76 were very rough. 1994-95 was lacking.

Of course, some great performances on those tours with certain songs but overall, ehhh, 75-76 they were quite sloppy and messy yet still killed with Honky Tonk Women, You Gotta Move, YCAGWYW, Star Star; 94-95 looser than the STEEL WHEELS tours, which made songs like Tumbling Dice, Rocks Off, Shattered, Sweet Virginia and Monkey Man outstanding, but the VOODOO tour, overall, was lacking tenacity, which was in full swing with 1997-99.

Have you heard the August 14, 1994 Street Fighting Man? Keith needed a song map he got so lost. Go to 59:30.



What strikes me as odd about that recording of Street Fighting Man, especially so at the area where Keith gets “lost”, is the mechanical sound of the drums. They just don’t sound like Charlie at all. It sounds like a pumped up click track.

Rod

Re: Rolling Stones: Welcome to Shepherd's Bush
Posted by: shortfatfanny ()
Date: October 30, 2024 13:59

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Anyway. The last stand alone release of a tour with cover, video was cuba 2016.

If you count like this (current tour including video) there are only three real live albums - Shine A Light, Hyde Park and Havana. Everything else was either without video or a vault release.

For me Honk is not a real live album because they tracks fade out. They didn't bother to have proper transitions between the tracks. Therefore there's no flow of a live album.

Grrr live !, complete with video and not labeled "vault".

None of the releases since 2018 are labelled "From the Vault" but they're clearly archive or vault releases just like Shepherd's Bush

True,by this logic comes Live At the Fonda 2015 to my mind, released quite soon after the show,complete including video and "from the vault", funny enough. Whereas Shine a Light and Hyde Park are inclompete and combined both two shows,with extra tracks for the japanese market,if I remember correctly.


Re: Rolling Stones: Welcome to Shepherd's Bush
Posted by: john lomax ()
Date: October 30, 2024 15:03

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How anyone can say the Voodoo Lounge tour was borderline bad seems borderline insane to me confused smiley

I find the Voodoo Lounge tour the worst tour they have done in their entire career.

The stage, the sound (those guitars....), the clothes, the posing, the songs, the playing -there's just nothing to like for me.

Mathijs

Incredible

They've had a couple of rather flat tours. 1975-76 were very rough. 1994-95 was lacking.

Of course, some great performances on those tours with certain songs but overall, ehhh, 75-76 they were quite sloppy and messy yet still killed with Honky Tonk Women, You Gotta Move, YCAGWYW, Star Star; 94-95 looser than the STEEL WHEELS tours, which made songs like Tumbling Dice, Rocks Off, Shattered, Sweet Virginia and Monkey Man outstanding, but the VOODOO tour, overall, was lacking tenacity, which was in full swing with 1997-99.

Have you heard the August 14, 1994 Street Fighting Man? Keith needed a song map he got so lost. Go to 59:30.



What strikes me as odd about that recording of Street Fighting Man, especially so at the area where Keith gets “lost”, is the mechanical sound of the drums. They just don’t sound like Charlie at all. It sounds like a pumped up click track.

Why do you say 1994-95 tour was flat? I thought it was a great tour ( it was my first)

Re: Rolling Stones: Welcome to Shepherd's Bush
Posted by: johnnythunders ()
Date: October 30, 2024 19:08

Is anyone else trying to get tickers for Leicester Square ? Can't see them, on the Dice website or App

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Date: October 30, 2024 19:12

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Is anyone else trying to get tickers for Leicester Square ? Can't see them, on the Dice website or App

I have been checking on their site but......no dice!

Re: Rolling Stones: Welcome to Shepherd's Bush
Posted by: johnnythunders ()
Date: October 30, 2024 19:15

Not just me then

Re: Rolling Stones: Welcome to Shepherd's Bush
Posted by: Barkerboy2 ()
Date: October 30, 2024 19:24

Nothing on there at all. Someone really ballsed this one up.

Re: Rolling Stones: Welcome to Shepherd's Bush
Posted by: johnnythunders ()
Date: October 30, 2024 19:28

Email just gone out
Link
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Re: Rolling Stones: Welcome to Shepherd's Bush
Posted by: michaj ()
Date: October 30, 2024 19:39

ive got a confirmation that i`m in. side seat but hey- i`m in

Re: Rolling Stones: Welcome to Shepherd's Bush
Posted by: Room1009 ()
Date: October 30, 2024 20:08

This DICE thing isa bit rubbish. Did all the usual stuff to be registered pre - but nothing on their web site or app. Only found a link to see the actual sale thanks to @Johnnythunders above. Noe I'm in 2 queues for side and/or middle seats (sold out already?). I also don't have a code

Re: Rolling Stones: Welcome to Shepherd's Bush
Posted by: johnnythunders ()
Date: October 30, 2024 20:08

Yup, me too
Looking forward to seeing my right arm onscreen

Re: Rolling Stones: Welcome to Shepherd's Bush
Posted by: More Hot Rocks ()
Date: October 30, 2024 20:17

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How anyone can say the Voodoo Lounge tour was borderline bad seems borderline insane to me confused smiley

I find the Voodoo Lounge tour the worst tour they have done in their entire career.

The stage, the sound (those guitars....), the clothes, the posing, the songs, the playing -there's just nothing to like for me.

Mathijs

Incredible

They've had a couple of rather flat tours. 1975-76 were very rough. 1994-95 was lacking.

Of course, some great performances on those tours with certain songs but overall, ehhh, 75-76 they were quite sloppy and messy yet still killed with Honky Tonk Women, You Gotta Move, YCAGWYW, Star Star; 94-95 looser than the STEEL WHEELS tours, which made songs like Tumbling Dice, Rocks Off, Shattered, Sweet Virginia and Monkey Man outstanding, but the VOODOO tour, overall, was lacking tenacity, which was in full swing with 1997-99.

Have you heard the August 14, 1994 Street Fighting Man? Keith needed a song map he got so lost. Go to 59:30.



What strikes me as odd about that recording of Street Fighting Man, especially so at the area where Keith gets “lost”, is the mechanical sound of the drums. They just don’t sound like Charlie at all. It sounds like a pumped up click track.

Why do you say 1994-95 tour was flat? I thought it was a great tour ( it was my first)

The Voodoo Lounge tour is still one of their best. Don’t listen to anyone that wasn’t there

Re: Rolling Stones: Welcome to Shepherd's Bush
Posted by: GasLightStreet ()
Date: October 30, 2024 21:47

I saw the VOODOO tour twice. As I explained, I thought, overall, it was a bit flat. I couldn't get to the BRIDGES tour or LICKS or BANG and so on until 2019, which was fantastic.

Listening to live albums and live videos offers just as much as being there in regard to hearing the difference between tours and, to my ears, there are bizarre differences. The difference between 1978 and 1981 is astounding.

Here's one way to look at it: I'd rather listen to some flat VOODOO tour performances than anything from the horrible BANG tour.

Re: Rolling Stones: Welcome to Shepherd's Bush
Posted by: GasLightStreet ()
Date: October 30, 2024 21:53

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I'm realy looking forward to it.
But I wonder why they don't release any current show. I don't count the HD N.Y. release. It was nice but very short. They toured in 2017, 18, 19, 21, 22 and 24. The last release was Cuba 2016.
So, hopefully they'll come up with something next year.

The last release was the live album included on Honk.

Yes, that's right. But it was just a couple of tunes and far from a complete show including video etc.
And the live tracks were only a part of the deluxe version.
It's not a couple of songs, it's 10 live songs. Still Life only has 2 more.

Yes,and the 2 more on Still Life are intro and outro, so 10 live songs as well.

But only 7 tracks recorded after Cuba 2016. It's too short to represent the No Filter-tour in my opinion.

It can't represent the NO FILTER tour when 3 of the live tracks are pre-NO FILTER. It's certainly a bit odd. Of all the live tracks only Dancing With Mr D sounds excellent, the rest are just... ehhh.

Re: Rolling Stones: Welcome to Shepherd's Bush
Posted by: tomcat2006 ()
Date: October 30, 2024 23:10

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How anyone can say the Voodoo Lounge tour was borderline bad seems borderline insane to me confused smiley

I find the Voodoo Lounge tour the worst tour they have done in their entire career.

The stage, the sound (those guitars....), the clothes, the posing, the songs, the playing -there's just nothing to like for me.

Mathijs

Incredible

They've had a couple of rather flat tours. 1975-76 were very rough. 1994-95 was lacking.

Of course, some great performances on those tours with certain songs but overall, ehhh, 75-76 they were quite sloppy and messy yet still killed with Honky Tonk Women, You Gotta Move, YCAGWYW, Star Star; 94-95 looser than the STEEL WHEELS tours, which made songs like Tumbling Dice, Rocks Off, Shattered, Sweet Virginia and Monkey Man outstanding, but the VOODOO tour, overall, was lacking tenacity, which was in full swing with 1997-99.

Have you heard the August 14, 1994 Street Fighting Man? Keith needed a song map he got so lost. Go to 59:30.



Maybe it's just me but I lurve that version of SFM and the way the ban interact. For me though, the Miami 94 version is the dogs bollocks in terms of sheer entertainment value. Great stuff!

Re: Rolling Stones: Welcome to Shepherd's Bush
Posted by: schwonek ()
Date: October 30, 2024 23:33

I am looking forward to this. And yes, a full show live release from Hackney or Filter would be nice. With artwork and video.
Honk was a compilation that includes 8 live songs.

Re: Rolling Stones: Welcome to Shepherd's Bush
Date: October 30, 2024 23:46

Ticket now confirmed, looking forward to reliving that great night.

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