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RnT
Rock acts mean less and less to young people. They like individual tracks but not as many listen to complete albums as was usual in 'the old days'. So they just come for the few big names left, the legends, not even knowing many of the songs. In a way I don't mind.I saw the Sheepdogs in November and they were amazing. Full house meant about 700 people, Tix we're less than 30 euro's. The sound was perfect, I could buy a beer at the bar every 30 minutes and walk my way back to my spot in the venue. To be honest, I prefer to enjoy my rock 'n roll that way instead of trying to recognize a song in a 60k hall with terrible sound, having paid a fortune.
Sadly, that's true of all media these days. Everything is just so fractured, which is why every media company is hanging on by a thread. No one can crack the code on how to hold people's attention. But I agree, hard to find anyone that's on the same page anymore.Quote
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Personally the main thing that's sad to me is that it's harder to find people to talk to about the music.
There's some truth to that, though its also worth noting its not like playing full albums back in the day would have resulted in excellent results from the crowd. By and large, even when it was more likely people were listening to the whole record, people come to concerts for the hits. The Stones would always get a better reaction playing Sympathy For The Devil than Jigsaw Puzzle. Just saying, its not like the Stones setlist for their entire career hasn't been largely hits driven. Its just what you do. I don't know that deep cuts were any truly more appreciated back then than now.Quote
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Rock acts mean less and less to young people. They like individual tracks but not as many listen to complete albums as was usual in 'the old days'.
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RollingFreakSadly, that's true of all media these days. Everything is just so fractured, which is why every media company is hanging on by a thread. No one can crack the code on how to hold people's attention. But I agree, hard to find anyone that's on the same page anymore.Quote
Glimmerest
Personally the main thing that's sad to me is that it's harder to find people to talk to about the music.There's some truth to that, though its also worth noting its not like playing full albums back in the day would have resulted in excellent results from the crowd. By and large, even when it was more likely people were listening to the whole record, people come to concerts for the hits. The Stones would always get a better reaction playing Sympathy For The Devil than Jigsaw Puzzle. Just saying, its not like the Stones setlist for their entire career has been largely hits driven. Its just what you do. I don't know that deep cuts were any truly more appreciated back then than now.Quote
RnT
Rock acts mean less and less to young people. They like individual tracks but not as many listen to complete albums as was usual in 'the old days'.
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Big Al
I still like to believe that many of the ‘younger’ fans attending these forthcoming shows will be thirsty for Definitely Maybe and (What’s The Story) Morning Glory? If anything, it may be the older, nostalgists whom really want the ‘hits’ Of course, the second of those two aforementioned albums is a ‘hits-fest’ in itself!
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I still like to believe that many of the ‘younger’ fans attending these forthcoming shows will be thirsty for Definitely Maybe and (What’s The Story) Morning Glory? If anything, it may be the older, nostalgists whom really want the ‘hits’ Of course, the second of those two aforementioned albums is a ‘hits-fest’ in itself!
Oasis is largely known for those two albums, and the outtakes/b sides from them. I think similar to GNR playing Appetite for Destruction, you can kinda play anything from those albums and people will be happy. Between those 2 albums and their B sides, you have about 40 songs to choose from (Definitely Maybe, Morning Glory, The Masterplan compilation basically makes up that list). There's the fairly obvious 20 you can play, with about 10 others that could be mixed in, and while they aren't all hits, I think Oasis hasn't been around long enough that all 30 of those songs would get a pretty equal great reaction. Yes, stuff like Wonderwall and Don't Look Back In Anger trump a lot of other stuff, but songs like Acquiesce, Talk Tonight, Round Are Way, Half The World Away, The Masterplan, Whatever (and those are all just b sides/non album singles) are stuff fans want. They're a rare band that I agree they could play anything off those albums and they are almost accepted as "hits". But also, look at it from the other way, they're a band that had a 15 year career and are known for essentially 3 years worth of material.
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Munichhilton
…sorry for not quoting, but in observation of an earlier post, I saw Oasis through the 90s and 00s and never saw Liam sing Wonderwall. It was always big brother screeching ‘mmmaaaaaaybe’ if you could hear him over the crowd.
I guess I would have enjoyed hearing Liam do it once too
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RnT
Rock acts mean less and less to young people. They like individual tracks but not as many listen to complete albums as was usual in 'the old days'. So they just come for the few big names left, the legends, not even knowing many of the songs. In a way I don't mind.I saw the Sheepdogs in November and they were amazing. Full house meant about 700 people, Tix we're less than 30 euro's. The sound was perfect, I could buy a beer at the bar every 30 minutes and walk my way back to my spot in the venue. To be honest, I prefer to enjoy my rock 'n roll that way instead of trying to recognize a song in a 60k hall with terrible sound, having paid a fortune.
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Rock acts mean less and less to young people. They like individual tracks but not as many listen to complete albums as was usual in 'the old days'. So they just come for the few big names left, the legends, not even knowing many of the songs. In a way I don't mind.I saw the Sheepdogs in November and they were amazing. Full house meant about 700 people, Tix we're less than 30 euro's. The sound was perfect, I could buy a beer at the bar every 30 minutes and walk my way back to my spot in the venue. To be honest, I prefer to enjoy my rock 'n roll that way instead of trying to recognize a song in a 60k hall with terrible sound, having paid a fortune.
It’s not just albums that don’t hold young people’s interest. TikTok, SnapChat, dating apps etc all give them a 20-30 second “life frame”. If an event is not captured, and then captures their attention in that time, it’s just swiped over/thru.
It’s an instant gratification world now and 40 minutes of LISTENING to an album is generally beyond them. They hear/feel their music, they don’t listen to it. An album is an anachronism to them.
Of course, there ARE exceptions. Taylor Swift, anyone? But that audience, whilst large, is narrow.
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Spud
I think you're right ...but listening to whole albums just isn't the way that most folks typically consume music in today's world.
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I think you're right ...but listening to whole albums just isn't the way that most folks typically consume music in today's world.
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Big Al
Welsh legends, The Manic Street Preachers, have been mentioned a few times in this thread. There’s been some wishful thinking over a support-slot.
Of course, we knew, but here they explain why they’ll not be supporting Oasis in Cardiff, later this year.
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peoplewitheyes
Not sure I've ever seen the adjective 'interesting' applied to Cast or Ashcroft
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MadMax
It's a shame Oasis were forced to turn down the offer to open for our boys in '95 cause of touring commitments. F*ckin' hell that would've been Bruxelles '73 1st show part 2.
Only one way to go afterwards, Cyanide. Then again, maybe not as one would've missed out on Be Here Now, B2B (hell of an album),40 Licks, WTSMG and about a thousand other beautiful things. And that's just music
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Munichhilton
Stereophonic would’ve been fun. I saw Travis open for Oasis a couple times…maybe bring them along
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Stereophonic would’ve been fun. I saw Travis open for Oasis a couple times…maybe bring them along
Both great bands! I think it was during the Dig Out Your Soul European - or was it North America? - dates that the terrific Travis were an opener. On the show I attended, it was Kasabian; a ‘good’ band, but not a favourite, admittedly. I look back, and realise there were so many great British bands in the 90’s and early 2000’s! What happened??
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Stereophonic would’ve been fun. I saw Travis open for Oasis a couple times…maybe bring them along
Both great bands! I think it was during the Dig Out Your Soul European - or was it North America? - dates that the terrific Travis were an opener. On the show I attended, it was Kasabian; a ‘good’ band, but not a favourite, admittedly. I look back, and realise there were so many great British bands in the 90’s and early 2000’s! What happened??
You’re right. I’d never heard of them but bought the CD the next day. Turn and Driftwood were very anthemic performances. They also did a Britney Spears song
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It's a shame Oasis were forced to turn down the offer to open for our boys in '95 cause of touring commitments. F*ckin' hell that would've been Bruxelles '73 1st show part 2.
Only one way to go afterwards, Cyanide. Then again, maybe not as one would've missed out on Be Here Now, B2B (hell of an album),40 Licks, WTSMG and about a thousand other beautiful things. And that's just music
I wasn’t aware that the Oasis were offered a support a lot on the Voodoo Lounge Tour. This must’ve been during the latter-stages of their promotion of Definitely Maybe. Do you know the locations, MadMax. Anyway, it was a missed opportunity; fast-forward to ‘96, and there’d be zero chance of the - now - insanely popular Oasis opening for anyone; at least not in the U.K., that is!