Probably a topic beaten to death but I'll give it another go. Why in the world doesn't the Stones have their own satellite radio station? Petty, Springsteen, Pearl Jam and of course the Beatles all have their own station. Ditto for Bob Dylan. Don't these two act have more material than the previously mentioned artists? Can't figure this out. Some insight and help would be appreciated.

Yes this is a mystery.
I doubt it has anything to do with the size of the catalog?
Maybe Sirius cant afford to pay the Stones what they are asking?
(Howard Stern took all their money!)
Sirius Stones does have a nice ring to it.

I think I remember old discussions saying it’s a money issue between Sirius and the Stones. I feel like eventually it’ll happen and be a permanent channel. It came back for a bit after Charlie passed

I think the artist or their management have to take some sort of heavily involved approach and curation to make it happen. Tom Petty was VERY involved in his channel. I think the same is true of the Dead and Pearl Jam, and probably Phish for that matter cause they feel like that kind of band. Someone in or with the band seem to very much be monitoring and providing content to the channel to keep it going and successful. Ain't no one Mick, Keith or Ronnie would be involved in any way, beyond maybe cutting some promos, and I just imagine no one in their camp cares to take that on. It also seems like the opportunity has to be there. There's only so many channels, on the lower end of the dial, to fill, so they'd need to pounce or campaign when one was going away or already on their way out. The Beatles is the only real artist channel I've seen emerge recently, and they're the Beatles so people will always make time for them. All the others I feel have been around for at least a decade.

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This was asked in 2019.

There is ABKCO and Promotone.

It's extremely unlikely Promotone would make any money because the royalty fees - SRXM has 34 million subscribers - is not much different than streaming in regard to income since they, SRXM, pay almost 22% in all royalties, whereas with FM (and even AM) radio, advertisers pay the radio station regardless of how many people listen and the radio station pays ASCAP, BMI or whoever else a fee each time a song is played (basically) and there's a gazillion more FM stations just in the United States that reach more than 34 million people.

That's my understanding of it. I could be wrong.

A little bit different than Fox Sports broadcasting an NFL game and Start Me Up comes on the PA in the stadium and it's heard in however many millions of homes at that instant - Fox has now broadcast Start Me Up and guess what!!??

They gotta pay.

Bruce, Beatles etc don't have issues like the Stones do when it comes to publishing and rights because they didn't go to war with their label like the Stones did.

Could the Stones have a station that is only all but 5 songs on EXILE through DIAMONDS? Absolutely. Because that's all non-ABKCO Music publishing.

Kinda limiting, song wise, huh. A handful of tunes from EOMS, a few from SOUP, a couple from IORR, maybe 1 from BAB, the usual 3 from SOME GIRLS, two or three from ER, say 6 from TY and then, yeah it's SiriusXM but if they played a lot of tunes that aren't singles from UNDERCOVER through DIAMONDS, unfortunately people are not going to participate, even though the very advent of satellite radio was to get away from FM classic/top 40 music.

Maybe they should have their 7-9 AM REWIND morning drive "hour"! and then the 4-7 JUMP BACK drive home! "hour" and so on - minus Brown Sugar and Wild Horses, if the publishing is an issue.

Would anyone listen? Probably not much. Because that excludes the obvious HOT ROCKS tracks and gee, those are so important, people somehow need to hear Paint It Black.

That's very likely what it is. They still get royalties but it's probably a major headache for "parties" to agree, which they have done in the past.

I do remember there being a temporary Stones channel around the time of Charlie’s death and it played their entire catalog, but I’m sure a permanent one would run into the issues GasLight Street and RollingFreak mentioned in their posts.

Cam