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bobo.

Do you have something to say that explains why I'm wrong about my complaint.

Does Mick not make the exact same moves.

It's great, i still enjoy the shows but come on does evey catwalk with Chanel have to be exactly the same, it's so repetitive.

I can imagine it would be a tough job for the lightning crew if he constantly goes a different direction.

I can understand why there are fewer people adding their input here.

Too much bickering.

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keefriffhards
bobo.

Do you have something to say that explains why I'm wrong about my complaint.

Does Mick not make the exact same moves.

It's great, i still enjoy the shows but come on does evey catwalk with Chanel have to be exactly the same, it's so repetitive.

I can imagine it would be a tough job for the lightning crew if he constantly goes a different direction.

I know what you mean, fair enough.

Keith and Ronnie are easy to distinguish but somehow the film crew still manage to film the wrong player when doing a solo.

How can they not have a basic understanding of what sound comes from which guitar.



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Starting my search for a boot of Chicago I. Any ideas?

What a great show! I'm old school: I actually burn them to CD eventually. No kidding.

Gotta figure out getting it to cassette. . .

Wow! If they don't have the litho's numbered then not much reason to buy it there & have to deal w it during the show. Bummer though as it was cool to have one of a limited number print. Thanks for the info!

Keefriffhards you are the biggest clovn ever.Basement man should have been you,re new name.Year after year you doing nothing Else than spitting out some bad comments about Jagger.You and some of you,re friends here.Stupid comments as Keith is the Stones,really?If not for Jagger,the Stones been buried for fifty years ago.But anyway thank you for you and you,re friends fantastisc input.Sleep well in the basement.

This is exactly why people stop coming here.

There is no reason for this sort of criticism.



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Keefriffhards you are the biggest clovn ever.Basement man should have been you,re new name.Year after year you doing nothing Else than spitting out some bad comments about Jagger.You and some of you,re friends here.Stupid comments as Keith is the Stones,really?If not for Jagger,the Stones been buried for fifty years ago.But anyway thank you for you and you,re friends fantastisc input.Sleep well in the basement.[/quote]

Jeez.

Chicago #1 was fantastic!
So good that I am going again tomorrow to see Chicago #2...on with the show!

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Starting my search for a boot of Chicago I. Any ideas?

What a great show! I'm old school: I actually burn them to CD eventually. No kidding.

Gotta figure out getting it to cassette. . .

Me too, I like a CD and Blu-ray when I can get it!

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This is exactly why people stop coming here.

There is no reason for this sort of criticism.



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Keefriffhards you are the biggest clovn ever.Basement man should have been you,re new name.Year after year you doing nothing Else than spitting out some bad comments about Jagger.You and some of you,re friends here.Stupid comments as Keith is the Stones,really?If not for Jagger,the Stones been buried for fifty years ago.But anyway thank you for you and you,re friends fantastisc input.Sleep well in the basement.

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I wish I played guitar as 'poorly' as Keith and 'slowed' as much as Mick and I'm 20 years their junior.

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Starting my search for a boot of Chicago I. Any ideas?

What a great show! I'm old school: I actually burn them to CD eventually. No kidding.

Gotta figure out getting it to cassette. . .

Me too, I like a CD and Blu-ray when I can get it!

On Hotstuff ... [iorr.org]

The best that's available here so far

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Anybody know why the remove much of the equipment between shows?

They took all the chairs off the floor away, pulled tape off the floor containing cables, lowered the speakers and doing something with them, taking up the top layer of the stage floor. Was still going at it once I finally let the majority clear and left.

Leaving gear out exposed to the sun (no rain forecasted until Tuesday) and humidity for that long of a duration isn't good.

The stage aspect might have to do with the turf? Maybe it's an insurance issue.

It's gonna be cold Sunday. How weird.

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This is exactly why people stop coming here.

There is no reason for this sort of criticism.



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Keefriffhards you are the biggest clovn ever.Basement man should have been you,re new name.Year after year you doing nothing Else than spitting out some bad comments about Jagger.You and some of you,re friends here.Stupid comments as Keith is the Stones,really?If not for Jagger,the Stones been buried for fifty years ago.But anyway thank you for you and you,re friends fantastisc input.Sleep well in the basement.

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yup

being on one of these threads is a lot like going to a nice restaurant with friends and trying to have a conversation while two idiots at the table behind you are fighting and harassing other diners and telling them to shut up and stop talking

then they start beating the sh-t out of each other while everyone else just tries to continue the conversation afraid if they say anything they'll be pulled into the fight too and get the sh-t beat out of them as well

meanwhile the owner is tired of having to break up these fights and clean up the mess they leave behind and is considering just shutting down this restaurant that everyone loves so much and moving on with his life

sounds fun right?

you'd wanna eat at this restaurant right?

i don't agree with keithriffhard here but he doesn't have to resort to calling other people names or questioning whether there fans or telling them to go away to make his point

in fact he's usually polite and respectful towards other posters and has been thru most of this tour overwhelmingly positive towards the band in his postings (he started a whole thread praising how well there playing for gods sake)

so he sometimes makes out there or over the top critical comments about the band

who doesn't

who cares

good it's at the least interesting to read and sometimes makes me think about something in a new way i hadn't

and who cares if he has a habit of making odd critiques of mick

boo-hoo

listen i understand as a fan the urge to defend mick but believe me when i tell you he's a grown ass man who doesn't need or want you to call other people names for him

if you disagree with keithriffhard or others then disagree with him but first ask yourself these questions

am i expressing my disagreement with him and why i think he's wrong or am i just calling him names and telling him to go away?

am i contributing to or creating an atmosphere here that discourages others from commenting or worst convinces them to give up on iorr altogether?

am i the bad guy here?

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Keefriffhards you are the biggest clovn ever.Basement man should have been you,re new name.Year after year you doing nothing Else than spitting out some bad comments about Jagger.You and some of you,re friends here.Stupid comments as Keith is the Stones,really?If not for Jagger,the Stones been buried for fifty years ago.But anyway thank you for you and you,re friends fantastisc input.Sleep well in the basement.

Ouch

Are you alright mate.

Mick, Keith and Ronnie are all playing great, it's all good

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bobo.

Do you have something to say that explains why I'm wrong about my complaint.

Does Mick not make the exact same moves.

It's great, i still enjoy the shows but come on does evey catwalk with Chanel have to be exactly the same, it's so repetitive.

I can imagine it would be a tough job for the lightning crew if he constantly goes a different direction.

I know what you mean, fair enough.

Keith and Ronnie are easy to distinguish but somehow the film crew still manage to film the wrong player when doing a solo.

How can they not have a basic understanding of what sound comes from which guitar.

yeah i've noticed this too

in seattle keith was doing his solo in gimme shelter and the camera men where focusing on

ronnie...?

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Watching these shows year after year you soon notice that Mick does the exact same moves , Watching Gimme Shelter, at precise moments during the concert he walks in exactly the same direction making exactly the same moves . Is it about control or obsessive compulsive disorder.

The cool spontaneous moves pre 89' and exciting stage clothes are gone, each show is a carbon copy in every way, totally at odds with Ronnie and Keith who never play it safe, never play things exactly the same.

Is this your first time paying attention to a tour?


Because Mick has been making the same moves since he started.

1969, the hat, sitting on a stool, "We gotta go" and the roses.

1972 - popping through the tongue...

1975-76 - Climbing the ladder at the beginning of HTW, the inflatable, the confetti, the buckets of water.

1978 - just walking out on stage and strutting around

1981-82 - running out on stage like he just swallowed 40 lbs of sugar

1989-90 - zooming out onto stage and, while singing the title of the song, raising his hand up in the air... his bit during the breakdown in Miss You

1994-95 - The popping out of the stage floor didn't last long, he walked out. The modern version of SFTD began with this tour (in other words, Mick wasn't at the top of the stage).

They have their tour moves. BRIDGES had its intro, NO SECURITY, LICKS...

The only thing new about the 2024 tour is 4 new songs and, regardless of one being dropped for a few shows, the warhorses are in a slightly different order, because it's basically been the same show songwise since 2014.

No one is making you watch the videos. A video of Angry from Denver isn't really gonna be any different than a video from Houston.

Every show from 8/31/89 has been choreographed down to the last bow. I to have always been disappointed in this aspect of the show. I miss the fast, sloppy, ready to crash and burn of every song and also the concert version of certain songs. those days are long gone because in Micks mind they need to put on a more professional show. Remember what he said at the 89 tour press conference, NO cherry picker this time around. If you watch any Mick solo show from 88 to Mick in 89 you can see the old lose and free Mick jewing gum and shacking his Knee no stop in 88 to the more ridged and choreographed Mick in 89. So i just enjoy every show that i at and just happy to still be going to shows in 2024.

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Anybody know why the remove much of the equipment between shows?

They took all the chairs off the floor away, pulled tape off the floor containing cables, lowered the speakers and doing something with them, taking up the top layer of the stage floor. Was still going at it once I finally let the majority clear and left.

Leaving gear out exposed to the sun (no rain forecasted until Tuesday) and humidity for that long of a duration isn't good.

The stage aspect might have to do with the turf? Maybe it's an insurance issue.

It's gonna be cold Sunday. How weird.

I was also guessing maybe it's easier to clean the field/floor with all that stuff gone too.

Found a great resale deal for Sunday night and upgraded myself from rear GA to SEC E. AXS slashed some official prices too. Pits seem much scarcer than Thurs though.

Song vote is up for Sunday night:
Out Of Control
Like A Rolling Stone
Shattered
Live With Me

Almost went Live With Me but voted Out Of Control as it might be more fun live.

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Found a great resale deal for Sunday night and upgraded myself from rear GA to SEC E. AXS slashed some official prices too. Pits seem much scarcer than Thurs though.

Do you know if AXS has an exchange policy like Ticketmaster does?

Don't know about exchanges. I posted my 2 original face $155 rear GA tickets a little under what I paid for them via AXS and they sold within 20 minutes. AXS doesn't take out as much of your payout as Ticketmaster. "Seller Connection Fee" was around 7%.

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Watching these shows year after year you soon notice that Mick does the exact same moves , Watching Gimme Shelter, at precise moments during the concert he walks in exactly the same direction making exactly the same moves . Is it about control or obsessive compulsive disorder.

The cool spontaneous moves pre 89' and exciting stage clothes are gone, each show is a carbon copy in every way, totally at odds with Ronnie and Keith who never play it safe, never play things exactly the same.

Is this your first time paying attention to a tour?


Because Mick has been making the same moves since he started.

1969, the hat, sitting on a stool, "We gotta go" and the roses.

1972 - popping through the tongue...

1975-76 - Climbing the ladder at the beginning of HTW, the inflatable, the confetti, the buckets of water.

1978 - just walking out on stage and strutting around

1981-82 - running out on stage like he just swallowed 40 lbs of sugar

1989-90 - zooming out onto stage and, while singing the title of the song, raising his hand up in the air... his bit during the breakdown in Miss You

1994-95 - The popping out of the stage floor didn't last long, he walked out. The modern version of SFTD began with this tour (in other words, Mick wasn't at the top of the stage).

They have their tour moves. BRIDGES had its intro, NO SECURITY, LICKS...

The only thing new about the 2024 tour is 4 new songs and, regardless of one being dropped for a few shows, the warhorses are in a slightly different order, because it's basically been the same show songwise since 2014.

No one is making you watch the videos. A video of Angry from Denver isn't really gonna be any different than a video from Houston.

Look man I'm still enjoying my Stones in my own way, i don't have to justify any of my observations to you or anyone else, of course i haven't just been paying attention, but when things slow down the repetitive moves are exaggerated in perception.

It's not rocket science, I'm just riffing my thoughts if it's okay with you.

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Anybody know why the remove much of the equipment between shows?

They took all the chairs off the floor away, pulled tape off the floor containing cables, lowered the speakers and doing something with them, taking up the top layer of the stage floor. Was still going at it once I finally let the majority clear and left.

Leaving gear out exposed to the sun (no rain forecasted until Tuesday) and humidity for that long of a duration isn't good.

The stage aspect might have to do with the turf? Maybe it's an insurance issue.

It's gonna be cold Sunday. How weird.

I was also guessing maybe it's easier to clean the field/floor with all that stuff gone too.

I noticed this too and thought that there might be another show or something between now and Sunday.



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Look man I'm still enjoying my Stones in my own way, i don't have to justify any of my observations to you or anyone else, of course i haven't just been paying attention, but when things slow down the repetitive moves are exaggerated in perception.

It's not rocket science, I'm just riffing my thoughts if it's okay with you.

I feel like you when I post on this site. On the Denver show thread I did a little write up on my observations and opinions of the show, since I go to almost all of them and I want to see different songs. So I wrote what I would like to see.. open with SFM and continue with a few more 60s songs and drop IORR. A few people jumped on me to complain about my “complaining”, how ironic. One person even said I shouldn’t criticize because I wasn’t at the show except I was there lol.

Talking about the show, setlist etc is fan fiction and I’m not going to stop talking about changes I want to see. It’s a way of me expressing what I like about the stones

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Anybody know why the remove much of the equipment between shows?

They took all the chairs off the floor away, pulled tape off the floor containing cables, lowered the speakers and doing something with them, taking up the top layer of the stage floor. Was still going at it once I finally let the majority clear and left.

Leaving gear out exposed to the sun (no rain forecasted until Tuesday) and humidity for that long of a duration isn't good.

The stage aspect might have to do with the turf? Maybe it's an insurance issue.

It's gonna be cold Sunday. How weird.

I was also guessing maybe it's easier to clean the field/floor with all that stuff gone too.

Probably. Maybe they're making a smarter effort this time around to not damage the playing field. I know it happens even unintentionally. It's very expensive to replace.

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Song vote is up for Sunday night:
Out Of Control
Like A Rolling Stone
Shattered
Live With Me

Almost went Live With Me but voted Out Of Control as it might be more fun live.

Out of Control was a blast in 97. Decisions, decisions. . .

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Watching these shows year after year you soon notice that Mick does the exact same moves , Watching Gimme Shelter, at precise moments during the concert he walks in exactly the same direction making exactly the same moves . Is it about control or obsessive compulsive disorder.

The cool spontaneous moves pre 89' and exciting stage clothes are gone, each show is a carbon copy in every way, totally at odds with Ronnie and Keith who never play it safe, never play things exactly the same.

Is this your first time paying attention to a tour?


Because Mick has been making the same moves since he started.

1969, the hat, sitting on a stool, "We gotta go" and the roses.

1972 - popping through the tongue...

1975-76 - Climbing the ladder at the beginning of HTW, the inflatable, the confetti, the buckets of water.

1978 - just walking out on stage and strutting around

1981-82 - running out on stage like he just swallowed 40 lbs of sugar

1989-90 - zooming out onto stage and, while singing the title of the song, raising his hand up in the air... his bit during the breakdown in Miss You

1994-95 - The popping out of the stage floor didn't last long, he walked out. The modern version of SFTD began with this tour (in other words, Mick wasn't at the top of the stage).

They have their tour moves. BRIDGES had its intro, NO SECURITY, LICKS...

The only thing new about the 2024 tour is 4 new songs and, regardless of one being dropped for a few shows, the warhorses are in a slightly different order, because it's basically been the same show songwise since 2014.

No one is making you watch the videos. A video of Angry from Denver isn't really gonna be any different than a video from Houston.

Look man I'm still enjoying my Stones in my own way, i don't have to justify any of my observations to you or anyone else, of course i haven't just been paying attention, but when things slow down the repetitive moves are exaggerated in perception.

It's not rocket science, I'm just riffing my thoughts if it's okay with you.

It was a serious question - because their tours are rehearsed for however long, lighting, who has a solo and for how long etc all dialed in, how long each song is. Each tour has its quirks.

That includes Mick doing the same moves every night. He perfects it as the tour goes on. In 1975 no one knew. In 1978 no one knew. In 1981 no one knew. And on and on.

As they started to get more TV coverage in 1989 and 1994 people saw Start Me Up or Not Fade Away and people knew exactly what was going to happen at the show they were going to.

In the last ten years more and more people post to YouTube. So unlike anything pre-BANG tour (YouTube came out in 2005) no one would be able to watch as many shows per tour as we can now - and have been for a while.

With whatever official video released over the years of bits of any previous tours, now you can find incomplete shows, complete shows or specific songs from specific dates and see - they've always done the same thing night after night on that tour, whether it's Honky Tonk Women in 1976 or Let It Rock from 1978.

nice version of little t&a

i really like keith's solo

Professor Wolf, thanks so much for the two videos of Midnight Rambler on p. 3, one from Donna, close-up and the other with fantastic sound.

Wow!!!

~"Love is Strong"~