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Also, ticket prices can't really be compared to Stones prices. I'm gonna see them in Hanover tomorrow, and FOS is 180€, even affordable for me, still being in college.
there are a hell lot of tickets on offer at ebay for tomorrows show – starting at 50 Euros ('buy it now'-option). It don't think that usually happens with the Stones…
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2024-08-03 15:29 by slewan.
yeah the argentinains are special fans
hope they get a couple more shows from them before the band stops
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The last time I saw Stones in Europe in 22 most audience was between 20-30, a lot of college kids in groups. Bruce on the other hand attracted much more middle aged people and families.
Okay. I think you are right about families. Maybe the music of Bruce is more family friendly?
Yes, I was at Vienna and Lyon.. In Vienna in the rafters I was next to many young folks including a teen couple who knew words to every song and cheered loudly throughout.. Lyon I was on the floor surrounded by mostly 20-something’s it seemed.. They had incredible energy, while I on the other hand could barely hang with the heat.
Don't worry about AC/DC, the European tour is a triumph... Massive crowds, often over 80,000, sometimes over 100,000. And incredible energy on stage and in the audience... Powerful.
***
I'm just a Bad Boy Boogie
Denigrate and scorn... It's so easy and disappointing...
Ok. Back to the Stones. Sorry to have lowered your divine level !
***
I'm just a Bad Boy Boogie
Ebay is irrelevant for ticket sales in the states but on the marketplaces Seattle bottomed out at around $25 and the lowest price I saw right before lights out for LA2 was $19.
All kudos to AC/DC and their fans, like Aerosmith or Kiss or Black Sabbath or Metallica or whatever (beavis and buttheads like), but doesn't belong to the same page as The Rolling Stones.
But you are forgiven, my son. We all do mistakes.
- Doxa
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2024-08-04 00:26 by Doxa.
Ah 2003...
I know two indisputable things
AC/DC never needed the Stones to fill dates, and Jagger's band never did and never will steal the show to the Aussies... Too late.
You are also forgiven for your mistakes and selective memory.
***
I'm just a Bad Boy Boogie
It's amazing that commercial success( new records/ shows) that AC/DC has generated.
For me when I think of AC/DC (I saw them in Paris in 1979 few months before Bon Scott died) I was not a big fan, what made me go was the location: Les Abattoirs Paris where The Stones played 4 shows in 1976. That being said, I enjoyed the show, Judast Priest and AC/DC were fantastic. Angus personifises(still) YOUTH (thank Beavis and Butthead). The Stones are the older states-men of rockandroll) From a market point of view; less clients but richer.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2024-08-04 15:28 by rollmops.
bv quite clearly said (right above your post) that the Stones will be touring behind HD.
Thus it's very unlikely that another album will be released before that played Europe (and maybe other places)
The thing is...HD left the charts months ago.
It last charted on the US Top 200 in December and on the sales only chart in January, the US tour did nothing to bring the album back on the chart, not even in the sales only list.
In Europe, it left the UK Top 100 in late January and lasted until March in the last european countries (Austria, Germany), the album is off the radar for 6 months at least, no new single, no airplay, no sales.
Touring behind HD in 10 months from now makes no sense at all, the album is already yesterday's pappers, let alone in a year.
But a new one released just in time for the European tour in May/June 2025 is another story, the band can promote it during 3 months on the road and even spark some interest on HD too, but for that, it should be finished by December/Early January for a mid 2025 release.
If the Stones feel that they're currently on a creative high, they could finish their next studio album soon, could release it 2025 and could then play the songs of both albums on their tour(s). Not impossible if you read these posts between the lines - [iorr.org] , [iorr.org] .
It's been done before - In Europe 1982 they played 11 'new/unplayed before' (In Europe) songs in each show, off three albums - Some girls, Emotional rescue and Tattoo you.
Edited 4 time(s). Last edit at 2024-08-05 12:30 by EddieByword.
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Re: European Tour 2025 - rumors?
Posted by:
Stonesfan2146
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Date: August 3, 2024 15:17
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georgelicks
AC/DC had mega-successful albums until 2008-2009, Black Ice was #1 worldwide and an incredible success in the US, it was the second best-selling album in the world in 2008, the tour was impressive, that renewed the base for millions and the band released 2 new albums since then, not to mention that Back In Black is a stainless classic that is uninterruptedly on the charts week after week.
It is logical that their fan base is much younger than that of the Stones.
Also, ticket prices can't really be compared to Stones prices. I'm gonna see them in Hanover tomorrow, and FOS is 180€, even affordable for me, still being in college.
Re: European Tour 2025 - rumors?
Posted by:
slewan
()
Date: August 3, 2024 15:21
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Stonesfan2146Quote
georgelicks
AC/DC had mega-successful albums until 2008-2009, Black Ice was #1 worldwide and an incredible success in the US, it was the second best-selling album in the world in 2008, the tour was impressive, that renewed the base for millions and the band released 2 new albums since then, not to mention that Back In Black is a stainless classic that is uninterruptedly on the charts week after week.
It is logical that their fan base is much younger than that of the Stones.
Also, ticket prices can't really be compared to Stones prices. I'm gonna see them in Hanover tomorrow, and FOS is 180€, even affordable for me, still being in college.
there are a hell lot of tickets on offer at ebay for tomorrows show – starting at 50 Euros ('buy it now'-option). It don't think that usually happens with the Stones…
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2024-08-03 15:29 by slewan.
Re: European Tour 2025 - rumors?
Posted by:
ProfessorWolf
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Date: August 3, 2024 15:35
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MAFI saw and meet a lot of young fans from Argentina in 2022 in Europe. Maybe about 30 years old and younger. Very enthusiastic, with a lot of passion, some with Stones tattoos. Very nice people.Quote
ProfessorWolf
i was born in 1991 and have a dog named angie and a cat named jack flash
but i've never meet another millennial fan in person
yeah the argentinains are special fans
hope they get a couple more shows from them before the band stops
Re: European Tour 2025 - rumors?
Posted by:
ProfessorWolf
()
Date: August 3, 2024 15:41
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MadMax
I was born in 1982 and I got loads of friends born in the 90's and my girlfriend who was born in 2000 and they are all BIG Stones fans.
that's good to hear
i don't know why i never find these 30 something stones fans it's always either someone in there 20's or 50's for me
Re: European Tour 2025 - rumors?
Posted by:
Stoneage
()
Date: August 3, 2024 16:18
Seems to me that the Stones' core audience are men plus 60. I think Bruce, for instance, has a wider audience - younger and more women.
Bruce, or Taylor Swift and Beyonce, also gets a lot more media attention when arriving here (Sweden).
Bruce, or Taylor Swift and Beyonce, also gets a lot more media attention when arriving here (Sweden).
Re: European Tour 2025 - rumors?
Posted by:
Big Al
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Date: August 3, 2024 16:23
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MadMax
I was born in 1982 and I got loads of friends born in the 90's and my girlfriend who was born in 2000 and they are all BIG Stones fans.
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Posted by:
franzk
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Date: August 3, 2024 16:33
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Stoneage
Seems to me that the Stones' core audience are men plus 60. I think Bruce, for instance, has a wider audience - younger and more women.
Bruce, or Taylor Swift and Beyonce, also gets a lot more media attention when arriving here (Sweden).
The last time I saw Stones in Europe in 22 most audience was between 20-30, a lot of college kids in groups. Bruce on the other hand attracted much more middle aged people and families.
Re: European Tour 2025 - rumors?
Posted by:
Stoneage
()
Date: August 3, 2024 16:37
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franzkQuote
Stoneage
Seems to me that the Stones' core audience are men plus 60. I think Bruce, for instance, has a wider audience - younger and more women.
Bruce, or Taylor Swift and Beyonce, also gets a lot more media attention when arriving here (Sweden).
The last time I saw Stones in Europe in 22 most audience was between 20-30, a lot of college kids in groups. Bruce on the other hand attracted much more middle aged people and families.
Okay. I think you are right about families. Maybe the music of Bruce is more family friendly?
Re: European Tour 2025 - rumors?
Posted by:
Big Al
()
Date: August 3, 2024 17:08
When I last attended a Rolling Stones concert, Hyde Park, 2022, I observed quite an eclectic-mix of ages. Certainly, there 'may' have been more in the middle-age, but it certainly didn't appear to be a particularly 'old crowd' My late father was a fan from 1963, and he'd be 76 if alive, today; is that an age demographic that attends 'rock concerts', today? I'm not so sure. He certainly wouldn't have enjoyed Hyde Park, on account of their being no seating!
Re: European Tour 2025 - rumors?
Posted by:
Stoneage
()
Date: August 3, 2024 17:47
I think Hyde Park and festivals sometimes is an exception to the rule. They seem to attract a younger audience. Maybe it's the event in itself that attracts younger people?
Conclusion: If the stones wants to attract a younger audience they should do more festivals?
Conclusion: If the stones wants to attract a younger audience they should do more festivals?
Re: European Tour 2025 - rumors?
Posted by:
snoopy2
()
Date: August 3, 2024 20:24
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franzkQuote
Stoneage
Seems to me that the Stones' core audience are men plus 60. I think Bruce, for instance, has a wider audience - younger and more women.
Bruce, or Taylor Swift and Beyonce, also gets a lot more media attention when arriving here (Sweden).
The last time I saw Stones in Europe in 22 most audience was between 20-30...
Yes, I was at Vienna and Lyon.. In Vienna in the rafters I was next to many young folks including a teen couple who knew words to every song and cheered loudly throughout.. Lyon I was on the floor surrounded by mostly 20-something’s it seemed.. They had incredible energy, while I on the other hand could barely hang with the heat.
Re: European Tour 2025 - rumors?
Posted by:
powerage78
()
Date: August 3, 2024 22:15
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slewanQuote
Stonesfan2146Quote
georgelicks
AC/DC had mega-successful albums until 2008-2009, Black Ice was #1 worldwide and an incredible success in the US, it was the second best-selling album in the world in 2008, the tour was impressive, that renewed the base for millions and the band released 2 new albums since then, not to mention that Back In Black is a stainless classic that is uninterruptedly on the charts week after week.
It is logical that their fan base is much younger than that of the Stones.
Also, ticket prices can't really be compared to Stones prices. I'm gonna see them in Hanover tomorrow, and FOS is 180€, even affordable for me, still being in college.
there are a hell lot of tickets on offer at ebay for tomorrows show – starting at 50 Euros ('buy it now'-option). It don't think that usually happens with the Stones…
Don't worry about AC/DC, the European tour is a triumph... Massive crowds, often over 80,000, sometimes over 100,000. And incredible energy on stage and in the audience... Powerful.
***
I'm just a Bad Boy Boogie
Re: European Tour 2025 - rumors?
Posted by:
angee
()
Date: August 3, 2024 22:38
Not too many age 70+ ers in the pit, but at least a few to several that I know personally.
~"Love is Strong"~
~"Love is Strong"~
Re: European Tour 2025 - rumors?
Posted by:
Doxa
()
Date: August 3, 2024 23:08
Jeez, this thread supposed to be about a possible Stones tour in Europe, and all I see is some beavis and buttheads talking about AC/DC. "Fire!" indeed..
- Doxa
- Doxa
Re: European Tour 2025 - rumors?
Posted by:
tiffanyblu
()
Date: August 3, 2024 23:17
Looking forward to 2025! As a comment on younger audience etc. It is of course quite obvious that other artists such as Madonna, ABBA, AC/DC, Queen, Elton John etc have better success among younger people. Just look at the streaming. Even CCR are having more monthly listeners. I think its a pity and I hope for a revival soon. Maybe through a colab, tv series, movies, games, musicals or whatever 
Re: European Tour 2025 - rumors?
Posted by:
powerage78
()
Date: August 3, 2024 23:25
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Doxa
Jeez, this thread supposed to be about a possible Stones tour in Europe, and all I see is some beavis and buttheads talking about AC/DC. "Fire!" indeed..
- Doxa
Denigrate and scorn... It's so easy and disappointing...
Ok. Back to the Stones. Sorry to have lowered your divine level !
***
I'm just a Bad Boy Boogie
Re: European Tour 2025 - rumors?
Posted by:
Dan
()
Date: August 3, 2024 23:36
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slewanQuote
Stonesfan2146Quote
georgelicks
AC/DC had mega-successful albums until 2008-2009, Black Ice was #1 worldwide and an incredible success in the US, it was the second best-selling album in the world in 2008, the tour was impressive, that renewed the base for millions and the band released 2 new albums since then, not to mention that Back In Black is a stainless classic that is uninterruptedly on the charts week after week.
It is logical that their fan base is much younger than that of the Stones.
Also, ticket prices can't really be compared to Stones prices. I'm gonna see them in Hanover tomorrow, and FOS is 180€, even affordable for me, still being in college.
there are a hell lot of tickets on offer at ebay for tomorrows show – starting at 50 Euros ('buy it now'-option). It don't think that usually happens with the Stones…
Ebay is irrelevant for ticket sales in the states but on the marketplaces Seattle bottomed out at around $25 and the lowest price I saw right before lights out for LA2 was $19.
Re: European Tour 2025 - rumors?
Posted by:
Doxa
()
Date: August 4, 2024 00:23
Quote
powerage78Quote
Doxa
Jeez, this thread supposed to be about a possible Stones tour in Europe, and all I see is some beavis and buttheads talking about AC/DC. "Fire!" indeed..
- Doxa
Denigrate and scorn... It's so easy and disappointing...
Ok. Back to the Stones. Sorry to have lowered your divine level !
All kudos to AC/DC and their fans, like Aerosmith or Kiss or Black Sabbath or Metallica or whatever (beavis and buttheads like), but doesn't belong to the same page as The Rolling Stones.
But you are forgiven, my son. We all do mistakes.
- Doxa
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2024-08-04 00:26 by Doxa.
Re: European Tour 2025 - rumors?
Posted by:
serpico71
()
Date: August 4, 2024 10:12
I think that given the avalanche of bands that could perform in European stadiums in 2025 (Iron Maiden, Bruce Springsteen, Ed Sheeran and probably AC/DC and Metallica and some more bands), it would be logical and reasonable to think that in the next few weeks, the Stones will be in negotiations to mount and coordinate a European tour in 2025, as the renowned Spanish music journalist Mariskal Romero commented.
Re: European Tour 2025 - rumors?
Posted by:
petewasbristol
()
Date: August 4, 2024 10:43
Thinking of the Thunder Ridge show on the recent North American tour, usual stadiums, festivals and parks aside, if the Stones were to do a special outdoor show in your country (European tour - 2025) where would it be? For me, one of the most special and magical places the Stones could play in England (but they have never done so before) is the Eden project.
[www.edensessions.com]
The Who and Elton John have played before so...we can dream right?
Anyway, a bit of fun. Other places in UK could of course include castles which have seen a resurgence in recent years for gigs (but probably unrealistic for the Stones...).
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2024-08-04 10:44 by petewasbristol.
[www.edensessions.com]
The Who and Elton John have played before so...we can dream right?
Anyway, a bit of fun. Other places in UK could of course include castles which have seen a resurgence in recent years for gigs (but probably unrealistic for the Stones...).
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2024-08-04 10:44 by petewasbristol.
Re: European Tour 2025 - rumors?
Posted by:
powerage78
()
Date: August 4, 2024 14:56
Quote
DoxaQuote
powerage78Quote
Doxa
Jeez, this thread supposed to be about a possible Stones tour in Europe, and all I see is some beavis and buttheads talking about AC/DC. "Fire!" indeed..
- Doxa
Denigrate and scorn... It's so easy and disappointing...
Ok. Back to the Stones. Sorry to have lowered your divine level !
All kudos to AC/DC and their fans, like Aerosmith or Kiss or Black Sabbath or Metallica or whatever (beavis and buttheads like), but doesn't belong to the same page as The Rolling Stones.
But you are forgiven, my son. We all do mistakes.
- Doxa
Ah 2003...
I know two indisputable things
AC/DC never needed the Stones to fill dates, and Jagger's band never did and never will steal the show to the Aussies... Too late.
You are also forgiven for your mistakes and selective memory.
***
I'm just a Bad Boy Boogie
Re: European Tour 2025 - rumors?
Posted by:
rollmops
()
Date: August 4, 2024 15:26
Quote
Stonesfan2146Quote
georgelicks
AC/DC had mega-successful albums until 2008-2009, Black Ice was #1 worldwide and an incredible success in the US, it was the second best-selling album in the world in 2008, the tour was impressive, that renewed the base for millions and the band released 2 new albums since then, not to mention that Back In Black is a stainless classic that is uninterruptedly on the charts week after week.
It is logical that their fan base is much younger than that of the Stones.
Also, ticket prices can't really be compared to Stones prices. I'm gonna see them in Hanover tomorrow, and FOS is 180€, even affordable for me, still being in college.
It's amazing that commercial success( new records/ shows) that AC/DC has generated.
For me when I think of AC/DC (I saw them in Paris in 1979 few months before Bon Scott died) I was not a big fan, what made me go was the location: Les Abattoirs Paris where The Stones played 4 shows in 1976. That being said, I enjoyed the show, Judast Priest and AC/DC were fantastic. Angus personifises(still) YOUTH (thank Beavis and Butthead). The Stones are the older states-men of rockandroll) From a market point of view; less clients but richer.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2024-08-04 15:28 by rollmops.
Re: European Tour 2025 - rumors?
Posted by:
bv
()
Date: August 4, 2024 17:35
A tour in Europe within the next 12 months is in the cards, given that Europe is their 2nd largest market after USA. They are still marketing and touring behind the Hackney Diamonds album.
It takes 6 months from a new album is done song wise in studio, until the vinyl, title, marketing plan, everything is ready for release. I am sure they have talks about the deadline for the next album. With HD it was Valentines Day 2023, i.e. mid Feb 2023.
Also, they may have rejected the bid from South America, but there is still a 3rd market in the Far East and Down Under. It is a long travel, and they are not getting any younger, but they might still do it.
Bjornulf
It takes 6 months from a new album is done song wise in studio, until the vinyl, title, marketing plan, everything is ready for release. I am sure they have talks about the deadline for the next album. With HD it was Valentines Day 2023, i.e. mid Feb 2023.
Also, they may have rejected the bid from South America, but there is still a 3rd market in the Far East and Down Under. It is a long travel, and they are not getting any younger, but they might still do it.
Bjornulf
Re: European Tour 2025 - rumors?
Posted by:
Irix
()
Date: August 4, 2024 17:50
Maybe: deadline for finishing recordings next album = Xmas 2024 .... album release: 30-May-2025 .... European Tour: 31-Aug-2025 - 31-Oct-2025 .... would look like a doable timeline.
Re: European Tour 2025 - rumors?
Posted by:
wolundamo
()
Date: August 4, 2024 17:56
I'm living in vienna, went to new york 2nd show and LA 2nd show this year - both were just fabulous, especially LA brought me to tears with foolt to cry, and don't know really why - because I heard it thousand times - tumbling dice. So europe would be perfect for me. Fingers crossed
Re: European Tour 2025 - rumors?
Posted by:
slewan
()
Date: August 5, 2024 02:26
Quote
Irix
Maybe: deadline for finishing recordings next album = Xmas 2024 .... album release: 30-May-2025 .... European Tour: 31-Aug-2025 - 31-Oct-2025 .... would look like a doable timeline.
bv quite clearly said (right above your post) that the Stones will be touring behind HD.
Thus it's very unlikely that another album will be released before that played Europe (and maybe other places)
Re: European Tour 2025 - rumors?
Posted by:
georgelicks
()
Date: August 5, 2024 03:41
Quote
slewanQuote
Irix
Maybe: deadline for finishing recordings next album = Xmas 2024 .... album release: 30-May-2025 .... European Tour: 31-Aug-2025 - 31-Oct-2025 .... would look like a doable timeline.
bv quite clearly said (right above your post) that the Stones will be touring behind HD.
Thus it's very unlikely that another album will be released before that played Europe (and maybe other places)
The thing is...HD left the charts months ago.
It last charted on the US Top 200 in December and on the sales only chart in January, the US tour did nothing to bring the album back on the chart, not even in the sales only list.
In Europe, it left the UK Top 100 in late January and lasted until March in the last european countries (Austria, Germany), the album is off the radar for 6 months at least, no new single, no airplay, no sales.
Touring behind HD in 10 months from now makes no sense at all, the album is already yesterday's pappers, let alone in a year.
But a new one released just in time for the European tour in May/June 2025 is another story, the band can promote it during 3 months on the road and even spark some interest on HD too, but for that, it should be finished by December/Early January for a mid 2025 release.
Re: European Tour 2025 - rumors?
Posted by:
babyblue
()
Date: August 5, 2024 07:40
So Europe 2025 most likely … maybe Jan do Australia, Japan, Hawaii
2026 back to US which could happen. After 2026 I dunno. Age is a big factor & health.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2024-08-05 08:46 by babyblue.
2026 back to US which could happen. After 2026 I dunno. Age is a big factor & health.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2024-08-05 08:46 by babyblue.
Re: European Tour 2025 - rumors?
Posted by:
Irix
()
Date: August 5, 2024 10:25
Quote
slewan
bv quite clearly said (right above your post) that the Stones will be touring behind HD.
If the Stones feel that they're currently on a creative high, they could finish their next studio album soon, could release it 2025 and could then play the songs of both albums on their tour(s). Not impossible if you read these posts between the lines - [iorr.org] , [iorr.org] .
Re: European Tour 2025 - rumors?
Posted by:
EddieByword
()
Date: August 5, 2024 12:26
Quote
IrixQuote
slewan
bv quite clearly said (right above your post) that the Stones will be touring behind HD.
If the Stones feel that they're currently on a creative high, they could finish their next studio album soon, could release it 2025 and could then play the songs of both albums on their tour(s). Not impossible if you read these posts between the lines - [iorr.org] , [iorr.org] .
It's been done before - In Europe 1982 they played 11 'new/unplayed before' (In Europe) songs in each show, off three albums - Some girls, Emotional rescue and Tattoo you.Edited 4 time(s). Last edit at 2024-08-05 12:30 by EddieByword.
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