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Re: European Tour 2025 - rumors?
Posted by: stonesurvive ()
Date: July 31, 2024 14:03

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Mick has other thoughts on what’s next. At least at the moment he does. He wants to finish another album first. Lots of bits and bobs to finish up on it as well, before a tour can happen.

If another album comes first, would Europe not get a Hackney Diamonds tour? I loved this tour getting 4 HD songs it fit so well and I'd imagine they would still play these songs in Europe

as far as I remember: when HD came out BV said something like they'll be focussing some 18 month on promoting/touring the album. In other words: a new album wont be released until fall 2025 (= if you count from the beginning fo the US tour)

Polydor has an 18 month promotional plan. It started in August of 2023.

I find it strange that they hyped FORTY LICKS so much with a huge push through streaming platforms and have held onto the out dated mentality of, well, here:

“Getting Forty Licks back out was really important for us as we’ve not had a compilation in the market that tied both ABKCO and the Stones’ post-1971 catalogue together for years,” added Tant. “There are various metrics we want to hit over the next 18 months but personally I’d like to get the Stones into the top 100 acts on Spotify off the back of Hackney Diamonds and keep them there!”

I guess Polydor's Ali Tant forgets what a playlist is and how one can work.

[www.musicweek.com]



I personally stay away from ABKCO, they come up with a "money-grab" every time the boys tour. The Stones never wanted to sell their catalogue to Klein anyway!

Re: European Tour 2025 - rumors?
Posted by: Irix ()
Date: July 31, 2024 14:05

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hmmm........the tickets are usually announced for a Friday in late November

Not in Europe: the SIXTY-Tour was announced on 14-Mar-2022 and start was 1-Jun-2022 - so less than 3 months in-between.

similar in 2018 – tickets went on sale in late March, the first show was Dublin on May 17 – only two month in-between

2018 general sale started 2-Mar-2018 - [X.com] - and for Dublin on 23-Mar-2018 - [X.com] - due to the late confirmation of the Dublin date - [iorr.org] .

Re: European Tour 2025 - rumors?
Posted by: Caro1980 ()
Date: July 31, 2024 14:43

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Any insider's hint yet?
We are impatiently waiting for the European Tour in 2025! grinning smiley

see mpj200's posts above on this page

By "the INSIDER" I meant someone who knows something more that just a "thoughts" and speculations what is Mick about to do...

Like some of you mentioned above (incl. BV) - HD album is continuesly to be promoted and Europe is (most probably) next region they will tour. New album if it happen it will happen in future (and NOT near future).

Re: European Tour 2025 - rumors?
Posted by: slewan ()
Date: July 31, 2024 16:00

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hmmm........the tickets are usually announced for a Friday in late November

Not in Europe: the SIXTY-Tour was announced on 14-Mar-2022 and start was 1-Jun-2022 - so less than 3 months in-between.

similar in 2018 – tickets went on sale in late March, the first show was Dublin on May 17 – only two month in-between

2018 general sale started 2-Mar-2018 - [X.com] - and for Dublin on 23-Mar-2018 - [X.com] - due to the late confirmation of the Dublin date - [iorr.org] .

my mistake – I just checked the date I bought my ticket for Dublin (and forgot that Dublin was announced later than the other shows)

Re: European Tour 2025 - rumors?
Posted by: Irix ()
Date: July 31, 2024 16:20

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hmmm........the tickets are usually announced for a Friday in late November

Not in Europe: the SIXTY-Tour was announced on 14-Mar-2022 and start was 1-Jun-2022 - so less than 3 months in-between.

similar in 2018 – tickets went on sale in late March, the first show was Dublin on May 17 – only two month in-between

2018 general sale started 2-Mar-2018 - [X.com] - and for Dublin on 23-Mar-2018 - [X.com] - due to the late confirmation of the Dublin date - [iorr.org] .

my mistake – I just checked the date I bought my ticket for Dublin (and forgot that Dublin was announced later than the other shows)

No problem. So if a new European Tour starts in May, then announcement probably end of February or early March. Next May is still 9 months away - and it's questionable if even insiders would "confirm" the Tour right now.

Re: European Tour 2025 - rumors?
Posted by: kkhoranstoned ()
Date: July 31, 2024 16:34

question doesn t the band meet towards the end of every year to discussing the company future????for the insiders

Re: European Tour 2025 - rumors?
Posted by: Irix ()
Date: July 31, 2024 16:55

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question doesn t the band meet towards the end of every year to discussing the company future????

Why discuss? The next studio album is waiting with the tracks already recorded during Hackney Diamonds. Maybe the only question would be: next album release first or next tour first?

Re: European Tour 2025 - rumors?
Posted by: Stoneage ()
Date: July 31, 2024 17:32

The routine used to be fall/winter tour in the US and then a summer tour in Europe. The thing now is that there will be almost a year to a Europe summer tour.
Which is a long time if they want to keep their chops together. Age is also a factor of course - there is simply no time for long breaks anymore.

Re: European Tour 2025 - rumors?
Posted by: keefmick ()
Date: July 31, 2024 17:36

Time for patience. BV will reveal all when the time is right. Otherwise it's just random speculation. But if that's what you're into, have at it.

Re: European Tour 2025 - rumors?
Posted by: gotdablouse ()
Date: July 31, 2024 17:39

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The routine used to be fall/winter tour in the US and then a summer tour in Europe. The thing now is that there will be almost a year to a Europe summer tour.
Which is a long time if they want to keep their chops together. Age is also a factor of course - there is simply no time for long breaks anymore.

Yes, why not a fall tour like in 2017 ! Seems a bit late now though...Of course they could play indoor stadiums later too like the Paris La Defense Arena. There must be a few others too ?

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Re: European Tour 2025 - rumors?
Posted by: Irix ()
Date: July 31, 2024 17:40

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Yes, why not a fall tour like in 2017 !

And the next studio album before .... could fit.

Re: European Tour 2025 - rumors?
Posted by: mpj200 ()
Date: August 1, 2024 00:44

Straight from the horses (Mick’s) mouth. As “insider” as it gets.

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Any insider's hint yet?
We are impatiently waiting for the European Tour in 2025! grinning smiley

see mpj200's posts above on this page

By "the INSIDER" I meant someone who knows something more that just a "thoughts" and speculations what is Mick about to do...

Like some of you mentioned above (incl. BV) - HD album is continuesly to be promoted and Europe is (most probably) next region they will tour. New album if it happen it will happen in future (and NOT near future).

Re: European Tour 2025 - rumors?
Posted by: ProfessorWolf ()
Date: August 1, 2024 01:12

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Any insider's hint yet?
We are impatiently waiting for the European Tour in 2025! grinning smiley

see mpj200's posts above on this page

By "the INSIDER" I meant someone who knows something more that just a "thoughts" and speculations what is Mick about to do...

Like some of you mentioned above (incl. BV) - HD album is continuesly to be promoted and Europe is (most probably) next region they will tour. New album if it happen it will happen in future (and NOT near future).

mpj200 is pretty much as insider as it gets here and he's often right

and i would assume the album would have to be near future like anything more they wanna do

when your over 80 time is not on your side and if the album is 75% complete (as mick has basically said) it's probably not gonna take much to get done

finishing before next summers tour doesn't seem unrealistic to me

Re: European Tour 2025 - rumors?
Posted by: georgelicks ()
Date: August 1, 2024 01:57

Using the same HD timeline (October 2022-February 2023) and with 11-12 tracks almost finished (plus some new tracks added) the next album should be ready by January-February 2025.

They can release it just for the 2025 European tour and promote it during 3 months playing 2 songs, plus 2 HD songs.

Even releasing an album with 11-12 songs and with new songs added from the new sessions, they would even have leftovers for another album.

According to Keith, the band has 5-6 songs in the can with Charlie from 2019 and they only used 3 (Ghost Town and the 2 in HD) so Charlie will surely appear on the new album as well.



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Re: European Tour 2025 - rumors?
Posted by: ProfessorWolf ()
Date: August 1, 2024 02:43

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Using the same HD timeline (October 2022-February 2023) and with 11-12 tracks almost finished (plus some new tracks added) the next album should be ready by January-February 2025.

They can release it just for the 2025 European tour and promote it during 3 months playing 2 songs, plus 2 HD songs.

Even releasing an album with 11-12 songs and with new songs added from the new sessions, they would even have leftovers for another album.

According to Keith, the band has 5-6 songs in the can with Charlie from 2019 and they only used 3 (Ghost Town and the 2 in HD) so Charlie will surely appear on the new album as well.

i agree but what if they released it during the middle or just after the tour and premiered some of the songs live before there released

now that would really make those shows special

i know highly unlikely but it would be incredible and might even sell a few more tickets

Re: European Tour 2025 - rumors?
Posted by: Spud ()
Date: August 2, 2024 10:47

It might sell a very few more tickets...but that would be to the likes of we hardcore who hang around here.

...as for the great concert going unwashed...they just want to hear Satisfaction and Start Me Up.



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Re: European Tour 2025 - rumors?
Posted by: powerage78 ()
Date: August 2, 2024 11:01

The fact that the Stones' last real worldwide hit, SMU, dates back to 1981, doesn't necessarily rhyme with renewal of fan spirit
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Re: European Tour 2025 - rumors?
Posted by: JumpingKentFlash ()
Date: August 2, 2024 13:15

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The fact that the Stones' last real worldwide hit, SMU, dates back to 1981, doesn't necessarily rhyme with renewal of fan spirit
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I think that’s got way more to do with price gouging of concerts.

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Re: European Tour 2025 - rumors?
Posted by: treaclefingers ()
Date: August 2, 2024 15:39

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Any insider's hint yet?
We are impatiently waiting for the European Tour in 2025! grinning smiley

see mpj200's posts above on this page

By "the INSIDER" I meant someone who knows something more that just a "thoughts" and speculations what is Mick about to do...

Like some of you mentioned above (incl. BV) - HD album is continuesly to be promoted and Europe is (most probably) next region they will tour. New album if it happen it will happen in future (and NOT near future).

mpj200 is pretty much as insider as it gets here and he's often right

and i would assume the album would have to be near future like anything more they wanna do

when your over 80 time is not on your side and if the album is 75% complete (as mick has basically said) it's probably not gonna take much to get done

finishing before next summers tour doesn't seem unrealistic to me

Agreed. There is really no point in delaying it, and unless he was outright lying about being 75% completed-which why would he?-I think we'll get it really quickly and your timeline seems plausible if not likely.

Re: European Tour 2025 - rumors?
Posted by: powerage78 ()
Date: August 2, 2024 15:45

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The fact that the Stones' last real worldwide hit, SMU, dates back to 1981, doesn't necessarily rhyme with renewal of fan spirit
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I think that’s got way more to do with price gouging of concerts.

Also, yes, you're right, but the last hit over 40 years ago didn't renew the fan base...

Re: European Tour 2025 - rumors?
Posted by: RG ()
Date: August 2, 2024 21:48

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The fact that the Stones' last real worldwide hit, SMU, dates back to 1981, doesn't necessarily rhyme with renewal of fan spirit
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I think that’s got way more to do with price gouging of concerts.

Also, yes, you're right, but the last hit over 40 years ago didn't renew the fan base...

Didn’t renew the fanbase? I was born in 1988, 7 years after the release of Start Me Up. I have seen the Stones almost 25 times live in Europe and the USA. I save all my money to see them live on stage and my my whole life is dedicated to The Rolling Stones. My dog is called Jagger and my son is named after the owner of this website. I have some friends standing next to me, born in the same year or even later. And they have got the same passion. There are a lot of ‘younger’ fans more, but they are not always in the opportunity to see them live because they can’t pay the prices. However the fanbase is definitely renewed since 1981. The Stones are a religion for all ages. So I can’t wait for the next show! Bring it on Europe 2025!



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Re: European Tour 2025 - rumors?
Posted by: NICOS ()
Date: August 2, 2024 22:30

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The fact that the Stones' last real worldwide hit, SMU, dates back to 1981, doesn't necessarily rhyme with renewal of fan spirit
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I think that’s got way more to do with price gouging of concerts.

Also, yes, you're right, but the last hit over 40 years ago didn't renew the fan base...

Didn’t renew the fanbase? I was born in 1988, 7 years after the release of Start Me Up. I have seen the Stones almost 25 times live in Europe and the USA. I save all my money to see them live on stage and my my whole life is dedicated to The Rolling Stones. My dog is called Jagger and my son is named after the owner of this website. I have some friends standing next to me, born in the same year or even later. And they have got the same passion. There are a lot of ‘younger’ fans more, but they are not always in the opportunity to see them live because they can’t pay the prices. However the fanbase is definitely renewed since 1981. The Stones are a religion for all ages. So I can’t wait for the next show! Bring it on Europe 2025!

Bravo RG thumbs up

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Re: European Tour 2025 - rumors?
Posted by: powerage78 ()
Date: August 3, 2024 00:05

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The fact that the Stones' last real worldwide hit, SMU, dates back to 1981, doesn't necessarily rhyme with renewal of fan spirit
!

I think that’s got way more to do with price gouging of concerts.

Also, yes, you're right, but the last hit over 40 years ago didn't renew the fan base...

Didn’t renew the fanbase? I was born in 1988, 7 years after the release of Start Me Up. I have seen the Stones almost 25 times live in Europe and the USA. I save all my money to see them live on stage and my my whole life is dedicated to The Rolling Stones. My dog is called Jagger and my son is named after the owner of this website. I have some friends standing next to me, born in the same year or even later. And they have got the same passion. There are a lot of ‘younger’ fans more, but they are not always in the opportunity to see them live because they can’t pay the prices. However the fanbase is definitely renewed since 1981. The Stones are a religion for all ages. So I can’t wait for the next show! Bring it on Europe 2025!

Bravo RG thumbs up

I've been to three AC/DC concerts in Europe this summer, and the audience is much younger and more energetic! No comparison, sorry. The pit goes wild for 2 hours.

Re: European Tour 2025 - rumors?
Posted by: georgelicks ()
Date: August 3, 2024 02:54

AC/DC had mega-successful albums until 2008-2009, Black Ice was #1 worldwide and an incredible success in the US, it was the second best-selling album in the world in 2008, the tour was impressive, that renewed the base for millions and the band released 2 new albums since then, not to mention that Back In Black is a stainless classic that is uninterruptedly on the charts week after week.

It is logical that their fan base is much younger than that of the Stones.

Re: European Tour 2025 - rumors?
Posted by: ProfessorWolf ()
Date: August 3, 2024 03:38

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The fact that the Stones' last real worldwide hit, SMU, dates back to 1981, doesn't necessarily rhyme with renewal of fan spirit
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I think that’s got way more to do with price gouging of concerts.

Also, yes, you're right, but the last hit over 40 years ago didn't renew the fan base...

Didn’t renew the fanbase? I was born in 1988, 7 years after the release of Start Me Up. I have seen the Stones almost 25 times live in Europe and the USA. I save all my money to see them live on stage and my my whole life is dedicated to The Rolling Stones. My dog is called Jagger and my son is named after the owner of this website. I have some friends standing next to me, born in the same year or even later. And they have got the same passion. There are a lot of ‘younger’ fans more, but they are not always in the opportunity to see them live because they can’t pay the prices. However the fanbase is definitely renewed since 1981. The Stones are a religion for all ages. So I can’t wait for the next show! Bring it on Europe 2025!

i was born in 1991 and have a dog named angie and a cat named jack flash

but i've never meet another millennial fan in person

i have meet a few gen z fans including one even more fantical then me with mick's face from the goats cover tattooed on his arm

and i've got a few gen alpha members of my family into them

i have a theory about why i seem to see more gen z fans then millennial fans

i think my generation looked down on them as being to old and dinosaurs from another era while gen z seems to respect and appreciate that there one of the last bands standing from that era and one of the biggest too and they're seems to be a sense of awe that they're still going at there ages

Re: European Tour 2025 - rumors?
Posted by: Bastion ()
Date: August 3, 2024 10:01

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Yikes.

Re: European Tour 2025 - rumors?
Posted by: powerage78 ()
Date: August 3, 2024 10:23

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AC/DC had mega-successful albums until 2008-2009, Black Ice was #1 worldwide and an incredible success in the US, it was the second best-selling album in the world in 2008, the tour was impressive, that renewed the base for millions and the band released 2 new albums since then, not to mention that Back In Black is a stainless classic that is uninterruptedly on the charts week after week.

It is logical that their fan base is much younger than that of the Stones.

smileys with beer

Re: European Tour 2025 - rumors?
Posted by: MAF ()
Date: August 3, 2024 12:14

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i was born in 1991 and have a dog named angie and a cat named jack flash

but i've never meet another millennial fan in person
I saw and meet a lot of young fans from Argentina in 2022 in Europe. Maybe about 30 years old and younger. Very enthusiastic, with a lot of passion, some with Stones tattoos. Very nice people.

Re: European Tour 2025 - rumors?
Posted by: powerage78 ()
Date: August 3, 2024 12:31

Well, it's a good thing there are fans under the age of 30 ... what's clear is that the vast majority of Stones fans are much older.

Re: European Tour 2025 - rumors?
Posted by: MadMax ()
Date: August 3, 2024 13:39

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The fact that the Stones' last real worldwide hit, SMU, dates back to 1981, doesn't necessarily rhyme with renewal of fan spirit
!

I think that’s got way more to do with price gouging of concerts.

Also, yes, you're right, but the last hit over 40 years ago didn't renew the fan base...

Didn’t renew the fanbase? I was born in 1988, 7 years after the release of Start Me Up. I have seen the Stones almost 25 times live in Europe and the USA. I save all my money to see them live on stage and my my whole life is dedicated to The Rolling Stones. My dog is called Jagger and my son is named after the owner of this website. I have some friends standing next to me, born in the same year or even later. And they have got the same passion. There are a lot of ‘younger’ fans more, but they are not always in the opportunity to see them live because they can’t pay the prices. However the fanbase is definitely renewed since 1981. The Stones are a religion for all ages. So I can’t wait for the next show! Bring it on Europe 2025!

i was born in 1991 and have a dog named angie and a cat named jack flash

but i've never meet another millennial fan in person

i have meet a few gen z fans including one even more fantical then me with mick's face from the goats cover tattooed on his arm

and i've got a few gen alpha members of my family into them

i have a theory about why i seem to see more gen z fans then millennial fans

i think my generation looked down on them as being to old and dinosaurs from another era while gen z seems to respect and appreciate that there one of the last bands standing from that era and one of the biggest too and they're seems to be a sense of awe that they're still going at there ages

I was born in 1982 and I got loads of friends born in the 90's and my girlfriend who was born in 2000 and they are all BIG Stones fans.



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