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Re: European Tour 2025 - rumors?
Posted by: wickerman ()
Date: August 28, 2024 21:56

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Its all very well listing the relatively large number of different venues in London, the band will want to avoid clashing with other big acts performing at the same time. Oasis and Coldplay will attract reasonably significant numbers of punters who might otherwise go to see The Stones.

Oasis are the really big counter attraction given the fact it will be their reunion apprearance. Of course dyed-in-the-wool Stones fans will go to see them regardless of any counter attractions. But the money-people in the Stones business operation will want to maximise attendance to the greatest degree they can. And that means getting as many casual fans to buy tickets as possible.

There is a huge amount of choice available to music fans in the UK each summer. The Stones cannot simply take it for granted they will pull a huge audience regardless. They will need to schedule cleverly. Assuming, of course, that health, personal circumstances, and the tyranny of the ageing process do not intrude upon things before next year comes along...


Stones won't be able to pull off another full UK tour like in 2018, as they will need to cover the whole Europe with like 15ish dates. I see them sticking only to 2 London shows + maybe one more (Glasgow or Manchester?), at absolute maximum. In such case I don't think pulling crowd of 120-140k in London would be a huge issue for them. Nobody is expecting them to plan 5-10 nights at Wembley, as they don't want to become a residency band, at least not yet.

Re: European Tour 2025 - rumors?
Posted by: wickerman ()
Date: August 28, 2024 21:56

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GerardHennessy
Its all very well listing the relatively large number of different venues in London, the band will want to avoid clashing with other big acts performing at the same time. Oasis and Coldplay will attract reasonably significant numbers of punters who might otherwise go to see The Stones.

Oasis are the really big counter attraction given the fact it will be their reunion apprearance. Of course dyed-in-the-wool Stones fans will go to see them regardless of any counter attractions. But the money-people in the Stones business operation will want to maximise attendance to the greatest degree they can. And that means getting as many casual fans to buy tickets as possible.

There is a huge amount of choice available to music fans in the UK each summer. The Stones cannot simply take it for granted they will pull a huge audience regardless. They will need to schedule cleverly. Assuming, of course, that health, personal circumstances, and the tyranny of the ageing process do not intrude upon things before next year comes along...


Stones won't be able to pull off another full UK tour like in 2018, as they will need to cover the whole Europe with like 15ish dates. I see them sticking only to 2 London shows + maybe one more (Glasgow or Manchester?), at absolute maximum. In such case I don't think pulling crowd of 120-140k in London would be a huge issue for them. Nobody is expecting them to plan 5-10 nights at Wembley, as they don't want to become a residency band, at least not yet.

Re: European Tour 2025 - rumors?
Posted by: slewan ()
Date: August 28, 2024 22:45

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GerardHennessy
Its all very well listing the relatively large number of different venues in London, the band will want to avoid clashing with other big acts performing at the same time. Oasis and Coldplay will attract reasonably significant numbers of punters who might otherwise go to see The Stones.

Oasis are the really big counter attraction given the fact it will be their reunion apprearance. Of course dyed-in-the-wool Stones fans will go to see them regardless of any counter attractions. But the money-people in the Stones business operation will want to maximise attendance to the greatest degree they can. And that means getting as many casual fans to buy tickets as possible.

There is a huge amount of choice available to music fans in the UK each summer. The Stones cannot simply take it for granted they will pull a huge audience regardless. They will need to schedule cleverly. (…)


It will be really interesting if and how the British market will be able to absorb all these studium concerts next year. People's buying power is not unlimited

Re: European Tour 2025 - rumors?
Posted by: schwonek ()
Date: August 29, 2024 11:53

I think the Stones could pull off a multiple nights tour - London, Berlin, Rome, Stockholm, Paris and 2-4 nights in the biggest places possible.

Re: European Tour 2025 - rumors?
Posted by: Big Al ()
Date: August 29, 2024 12:07

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My dream would be to see them doing summat similar to the Licks concept, the "Fruit Of The Loom touring" as Keef called it. At least in England, and some chosen mainland European cities.
However are they still able to mix it up with 60-70 songs in the same way we got in 02-03?

Licks was over 20 years' ago, now. It'll never happen; nice dream, though.

Re: European Tour 2025 - rumors?
Posted by: wickerman ()
Date: August 29, 2024 12:19

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I think the Stones could pull off a multiple nights tour - London, Berlin, Rome, Stockholm, Paris and 2-4 nights in the biggest places possible.

But they don't want to - seems they still prefer the old-school way of touring and reaching as many citites / countries as possible, as opposed to limited residencies.

Re: European Tour 2025 - rumors?
Posted by: MadMax ()
Date: August 29, 2024 14:30

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My dream would be to see them doing summat similar to the Licks concept, the "Fruit Of The Loom touring" as Keef called it. At least in England, and some chosen mainland European cities.
However are they still able to mix it up with 60-70 songs in the same way we got in 02-03?

Licks was over 20 years' ago, now. It'll never happen; nice dream, though.

Yeah you are right Al, I am very thankful I was able to enjoy that summer of 2003. It'll never come back.

Re: European Tour 2025 - rumors?
Posted by: bv ()
Date: August 29, 2024 19:00

The Rolling Stones are NOT a "residency" band.

They play in cities like Southampton, Coventry, Missoula, Ridgedale, Bergen, Horsens, Montevideo, Porto Alegre, Havana, Quebec, Moncton, Coimbra and so on. Then of course in bigger cities too, but never in the bigger cities only.

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Re: European Tour 2025 - rumors?
Posted by: GerardHennessy ()
Date: August 30, 2024 02:01

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Its all very well listing the relatively large number of different venues in London, the band will want to avoid clashing with other big acts performing at the same time. Oasis and Coldplay will attract reasonably significant numbers of punters who might otherwise go to see The Stones.

Oasis are the really big counter attraction given the fact it will be their reunion apprearance. Of course dyed-in-the-wool Stones fans will go to see them regardless of any counter attractions. But the money-people in the Stones business operation will want to maximise attendance to the greatest degree they can. And that means getting as many casual fans to buy tickets as possible.

There is a huge amount of choice available to music fans in the UK each summer. The Stones cannot simply take it for granted they will pull a huge audience regardless. They will need to schedule cleverly. (…)


It will be really interesting if and how the British market will be able to absorb all these studium concerts next year. People's buying power is not unlimited

Spot on sir. You've nailed it in one...

Re: European Tour 2025 - rumors?
Posted by: GerardHennessy ()
Date: August 30, 2024 02:10

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Its all very well listing the relatively large number of different venues in London, the band will want to avoid clashing with other big acts performing at the same time. Oasis and Coldplay will attract reasonably significant numbers of punters who might otherwise go to see The Stones.

Oasis are the really big counter attraction given the fact it will be their reunion apprearance. Of course dyed-in-the-wool Stones fans will go to see them regardless of any counter attractions. But the money-people in the Stones business operation will want to maximise attendance to the greatest degree they can. And that means getting as many casual fans to buy tickets as possible.

There is a huge amount of choice available to music fans in the UK each summer. The Stones cannot simply take it for granted they will pull a huge audience regardless. They will need to schedule cleverly. Assuming, of course, that health, personal circumstances, and the tyranny of the ageing process do not intrude upon things before next year comes along...


Stones won't be able to pull off another full UK tour like in 2018, as they will need to cover the whole Europe with like 15ish dates. I see them sticking only to 2 London shows + maybe one more (Glasgow or Manchester?), at absolute maximum. In such case I don't think pulling crowd of 120-140k in London would be a huge issue for them. Nobody is expecting them to plan 5-10 nights at Wembley, as they don't want to become a residency band, at least not yet.

Hmm! Pulling 120 -140K in London over two nights??? I think even The Stones would struggle to get that many people across two shows, given the array of choice available to punters in London and the South East next year.

Lifelong fans will always support them of course. But I wonder how often the more casual fans will keep going back to the same well for another fix. They might do 100K over two nights but I cannot see them pulling more than that in 2025.

Hope I'm wrong of course, but...!!!

Re: European Tour 2025 - rumors?
Posted by: GasLightStreet ()
Date: August 30, 2024 04:24

Regardless of their age they don't seem to have any sentimentality about where the last gig is for a tour - except for the end of the BANG tour, as I recall. Well, it seemed mostly so with Keith.

It's easy to say, if this is the last EU/UK tour ever, wouldn't it make sense to end in London? But if they go to Asia etc... and possibly finish the next album, then tour EU/UK and then NA the next year... that's 2027 for another EU/UK tour and that would probably be the end - unless Asia eats up 2025.

Holy crap, they'll basically be in the mid-80s.

Re: European Tour 2025 - rumors?
Posted by: daspyknows ()
Date: August 30, 2024 04:54

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Regardless of their age they don't seem to have any sentimentality about where the last gig is for a tour - except for the end of the BANG tour, as I recall. Well, it seemed mostly so with Keith.

It's easy to say, if this is the last EU/UK tour ever, wouldn't it make sense to end in London? But if they go to Asia etc... and possibly finish the next album, then tour EU/UK and then NA the next year... that's 2027 for another EU/UK tour and that would probably be the end - unless Asia eats up 2025.

Holy crap, they'll basically be in the mid-80s.

As long as they are healthy. Willie Nelson and Buddy Guy still out there. Our expectations for shows may need to be tempered but as long as the key members are healthy and enjoying themselves anything is possible.

Re: European Tour 2025 - rumors?
Posted by: yorkshirestone ()
Date: August 30, 2024 09:56

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Its all very well listing the relatively large number of different venues in London, the band will want to avoid clashing with other big acts performing at the same time. Oasis and Coldplay will attract reasonably significant numbers of punters who might otherwise go to see The Stones.

Oasis are the really big counter attraction given the fact it will be their reunion apprearance. Of course dyed-in-the-wool Stones fans will go to see them regardless of any counter attractions. But the money-people in the Stones business operation will want to maximise attendance to the greatest degree they can. And that means getting as many casual fans to buy tickets as possible.

There is a huge amount of choice available to music fans in the UK each summer. The Stones cannot simply take it for granted they will pull a huge audience regardless. They will need to schedule cleverly. Assuming, of course, that health, personal circumstances, and the tyranny of the ageing process do not intrude upon things before next year comes along...


Stones won't be able to pull off another full UK tour like in 2018, as they will need to cover the whole Europe with like 15ish dates. I see them sticking only to 2 London shows + maybe one more (Glasgow or Manchester?), at absolute maximum. In such case I don't think pulling crowd of 120-140k in London would be a huge issue for them. Nobody is expecting them to plan 5-10 nights at Wembley, as they don't want to become a residency band, at least not yet.

Hmm! Pulling 120 -140K in London over two nights??? I think even The Stones would struggle to get that many people across two shows, given the array of choice available to punters in London and the South East next year.

Lifelong fans will always support them of course. But I wonder how often the more casual fans will keep going back to the same well for another fix. They might do 100K over two nights but I cannot see them pulling more than that in 2025.

Hope I'm wrong of course, but...!!!


Bruce managed it this year (2x Wembley) on top of last year (2x Hyde park) similar price points. Albeit no oasis competition but green day, AC/DC, foo fighters all played stadium gigs in same months this summer in London

Re: European Tour 2025 - rumors?
Posted by: sjs12 ()
Date: August 30, 2024 18:24

London is a big city and the Stones are a big draw. What's more when the Stones play London people come from all over the world. London always has multiple stadium touring bands visit each and every year. Of course the Stones can sell out 2 nights or more in a London stadium next year or any other year for that matter.

Re: European Tour 2025 - rumors?
Posted by: petewasbristol ()
Date: August 30, 2024 18:52

Bruce and Blur played shows at Hyde Park and Wembley on the same night last year. No problem. Well actually there was...I couldn't go to both! That's the only issue I see for people. Stones will sell out whoever is playing elsewhere.

Re: European Tour 2025 - rumors?
Posted by: Green Lady ()
Date: August 31, 2024 00:09

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The website Premiere events mention a Rolling Stones show in London august 2025
https://www.premierevents.co.uk/event/rolling-stones

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Yes will be busy - but lots of options now in London besides Wembley - principally Tottenham Hotspur stadium which is the best stadium in the UK now, Arsenal Emirates, West Ham Olympic Stadium - all over 60k seats - and of course you have Ye Olde Faithful - Hyde Park.

And Twickenham as well!

Twickenham no longer exists. The Rugby Football Union have sold off the stadium naming rights for loadsamoney, so we all have to learn to call it the Allianz Stadium. Yeuk.

Re: European Tour 2025 - rumors?
Posted by: CaptainCorella ()
Date: August 31, 2024 05:30

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Twickenham no longer exists. The Rugby Football Union have sold off the stadium naming rights for loadsamoney, so we all have to learn to call it the Allianz Stadium. Yeuk.

Here in Melbourne we have a similar situation. The naming rights to one particular stadium were sold to Marvel, so the public broadcaster (no advertising allowed) has to call it Docklands Stadium, and everyone else calls it Marvel Stadium.

There are other examples across Australia.

But the huge stadium in Melbourne (apparently the 10th largest in the World, and colloquially known as "The G") us still called The Melbourne Cricket Ground even though the Melbourne Cricket Club which owns it is a commercial organisation by any sane definition.

Go figure.

Captain Corella

Re: European Tour 2025 - rumors?
Posted by: GerardHennessy ()
Date: August 31, 2024 16:55

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Regardless of their age they don't seem to have any sentimentality about where the last gig is for a tour - except for the end of the BANG tour, as I recall. Well, it seemed mostly so with Keith.

It's easy to say, if this is the last EU/UK tour ever, wouldn't it make sense to end in London? But if they go to Asia etc... and possibly finish the next album, then tour EU/UK and then NA the next year... that's 2027 for another EU/UK tour and that would probably be the end - unless Asia eats up 2025.

Holy crap, they'll basically be in the mid-80s.

As long as they are healthy. Willie Nelson and Buddy Guy still out there. Our expectations for shows may need to be tempered but as long as the key members are healthy and enjoying themselves anything is possible.


Willie Nelson and Buddy Guy are amazing. But their shows are way less intense than The Stones. So we cannot really compare them.

The very mention of a tour in 2027 is really pushing it. Even with the caveats about remaining healthy and enjoying it. But hey ho. What will be will be...

Re: European Tour 2025 - rumors?
Posted by: GerardHennessy ()
Date: August 31, 2024 17:19

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Bruce and Blur played shows at Hyde Park and Wembley on the same night last year. No problem. Well actually there was...I couldn't go to both! That's the only issue I see for people. Stones will sell out whoever is playing elsewhere.

I really wonder if they will? In fact I really wonder what 'selling out' actually means anyway? Does it literally mean 100%? Or 90%? Or 80%? Or something else?

Yes, the full-on fans will come in droves for the four corners of the globe. They always do. But on their own they wont sell out a stadium now. And there WILL always be a healthy take up from the more casual fans. But it seems to me that each time The Stones swing round these parts now the take-up is less. Not dramatically so. But certainly discernible.

I did a straw poll anongs a couple of dozen Stones fans who in the past have attended pretty much everything the band have done in the UK.This time only 60% of them showed any enthusiasm for another UK tour. 'Too old' 'Too predictable' 'Been there done that' 'Its too much hassle' 'The ticket price will be very steep and the cost of everything is sky high now...' Just some of the responses I got.

I'm NOT claiming this is definitive. I'm not agreeing with the things I heard. I'm not suggesting my little poll proves anything either way. But it does furnish us with a little more context.

One final thought. We often talk about the ages of the band. But we also need to consider the ages of the fans. While there will always be newer younger fans. there will not be as many as those who have been on the Silver Train for the last few decades.

A sobering thought for us all.

Re: European Tour 2025 - rumors?
Posted by: daspyknows ()
Date: August 31, 2024 19:31

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Regardless of their age they don't seem to have any sentimentality about where the last gig is for a tour - except for the end of the BANG tour, as I recall. Well, it seemed mostly so with Keith.

It's easy to say, if this is the last EU/UK tour ever, wouldn't it make sense to end in London? But if they go to Asia etc... and possibly finish the next album, then tour EU/UK and then NA the next year... that's 2027 for another EU/UK tour and that would probably be the end - unless Asia eats up 2025.

Holy crap, they'll basically be in the mid-80s.

As long as they are healthy. Willie Nelson and Buddy Guy still out there. Our expectations for shows may need to be tempered but as long as the key members are healthy and enjoying themselves anything is possible.


Willie Nelson and Buddy Guy are amazing. But their shows are way less intense than The Stones. So we cannot really compare them.

The very mention of a tour in 2027 is really pushing it. Even with the caveats about remaining healthy and enjoying it. But hey ho. What will be will be...

That is my point by tempering expectations. We already have. Shows are shorter and every 3 or 4 days versus back to back nights and long tours. Touring in 2027 might mean shorter shows with lower intensity. Would that be better or would we rather they call it a day?

In regards to your polling, it is far from scientific. It provides little context. If you asked dozens of Stones fans leaving Ridgedale whether there should be another tour the polling would be different and still scientifically irrelevant. Also, selling out doesn't mean every seat full, its profit maximization pricing. Charge 100 quid average price and play once a week (Saturday) and I would bet they could sell out shows in London and UK all summer. That will never happen but is used to demonstrate the basic economic concept of supply and demand.

I go back to this
"As long as they are healthy. Willie Nelson and Buddy Guy still out there. Our expectations for shows may need to be tempered but as long as the key members are healthy and enjoying themselves anything is possible.":

Re: European Tour 2025 - rumors?
Posted by: Rocky Dijon ()
Date: August 31, 2024 19:47

Agreed. The Stones will be on fire in 2027 when Mick turns 84 on the road. The fact that their fan base is dying off, that rock music itself is dying, and that younger audiences are largely failing to embrace the musical form, the band, or event concerts at premium prices is largely irrelevant.

Serious response - every endeavor, be it recording or performing, can only be taken in short steps. Their advanced ages and past health issues make projecting out a couple years even less probable. They have already exceeded expectations by simply surviving, let alone still performing and recording as a band. When they do record, they know the days of platinum albums are long gone. The novelty of a blues album ended up selling less than two million copies worldwide and is considered a huge success for them today. HACKNEY DIAMONDS couldn't even earn a gold record in the U.S. Inevitably, diminished concert returns are also the case. It's not just because they can't play 50 shows a year any more.

Re: European Tour 2025 - rumors?
Posted by: Juniorjackflash ()
Date: August 31, 2024 21:19

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The website Premiere events mention a Rolling Stones show in London august 2025
https://www.premierevents.co.uk/event/rolling-stones

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Taylor Swift | The Eras Tour | Wembley Stadium. Wembley Stadium | London. Oasis. Fri 1 August — Sat 2 August 2025.



Yes will be busy - but lots of options now in London besides Wembley - principally Tottenham Hotspur stadium which is the best stadium in the UK now, Arsenal Emirates, West Ham Olympic Stadium - all over 60k seats - and of course you have Ye Olde Faithful - Hyde Park.

And Twickenham as well!

Twickenham no longer exists. The Rugby Football Union have sold off the stadium naming rights for loadsamoney, so we all have to learn to call it the Allianz Stadium. Yeuk.


I know it’s a tad depressing.

Re: European Tour 2025 - rumors?
Posted by: GasLightStreet ()
Date: August 31, 2024 21:41

How much longer can doing 15 (or whatever) shows a year sustain itself? It seems extremely logical that at some point it will be too expensive to do such a thing with the amount of time between shows + stadium rental etc if prices get even higher globally.

Or if Lloyds...

They made $546.5 million for the four year long (58 shows!!!) NO FILTER tour - but you'll never read anywhere how much of that was paid out.

Hasn't Mick been quite vociferous about what a pain it is to tour Europe and how they don't make much money and a number of other things. Of course he would see it that way - he oversees everything.

No matter what happens next year regarding a tour of Europe somewhere someone will be unhappy about the Stones not coming to their town, which these days is really something.

Re: European Tour 2025 - rumors?
Posted by: bitusa2012 ()
Date: September 1, 2024 12:49

I’d like them to play ANYWHERE in Europe… just after their tour of Australia and NZ.

Rod

Re: European Tour 2025 - rumors?
Posted by: MadMax ()
Date: September 1, 2024 12:49

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The website Premiere events mention a Rolling Stones show in London august 2025
https://www.premierevents.co.uk/event/rolling-stones

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premierevents.co.uk

[www.premierevents.co.uk] › ...

Exclusive access to VIP Music Tickets - Sold Out Concerts - Official VIP Hospitality

Taylor Swift | The Eras Tour | Wembley Stadium. Wembley Stadium | London. Oasis. Fri 1 August — Sat 2 August 2025.



Yes will be busy - but lots of options now in London besides Wembley - principally Tottenham Hotspur stadium which is the best stadium in the UK now, Arsenal Emirates, West Ham Olympic Stadium - all over 60k seats - and of course you have Ye Olde Faithful - Hyde Park.

And Twickenham as well!

Twickenham no longer exists. The Rugby Football Union have sold off the stadium naming rights for loadsamoney, so we all have to learn to call it the Allianz Stadium. Yeuk.


I know it’s a tad depressing.


Just continue to call it Twickenham. My football team's new stadium has had 2 ridiculous names since built in 2013, I just call it The National Stadiumsmileys with beer

Re: European Tour 2025 - rumors?
Posted by: GerardHennessy ()
Date: September 1, 2024 13:42

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Regardless of their age they don't seem to have any sentimentality about where the last gig is for a tour - except for the end of the BANG tour, as I recall. Well, it seemed mostly so with Keith.

It's easy to say, if this is the last EU/UK tour ever, wouldn't it make sense to end in London? But if they go to Asia etc... and possibly finish the next album, then tour EU/UK and then NA the next year... that's 2027 for another EU/UK tour and that would probably be the end - unless Asia eats up 2025.

Holy crap, they'll basically be in the mid-80s.

As long as they are healthy. Willie Nelson and Buddy Guy still out there. Our expectations for shows may need to be tempered but as long as the key members are healthy and enjoying themselves anything is possible.


Willie Nelson and Buddy Guy are amazing. But their shows are way less intense than The Stones. So we cannot really compare them.

The very mention of a tour in 2027 is really pushing it. Even with the caveats about remaining healthy and enjoying it. But hey ho. What will be will be...

That is my point by tempering expectations. We already have. Shows are shorter and every 3 or 4 days versus back to back nights and long tours. Touring in 2027 might mean shorter shows with lower intensity. Would that be better or would we rather they call it a day?

In regards to your polling, it is far from scientific. It provides little context. If you asked dozens of Stones fans leaving Ridgedale whether there should be another tour the polling would be different and still scientifically irrelevant. Also, selling out doesn't mean every seat full, its profit maximization pricing. Charge 100 quid average price and play once a week (Saturday) and I would bet they could sell out shows in London and UK all summer. That will never happen but is used to demonstrate the basic economic concept of supply and demand.

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"As long as they are healthy. Willie Nelson and Buddy Guy still out there. Our expectations for shows may need to be tempered but as long as the key members are healthy and enjoying themselves anything is possible.":


I agree your point about my polling being unscientific. And of it providing only limited context. I said as much myself 'I'm NOT claiming this is definitive. I'm not agreeing with the things I heard. I'm not suggesting my little poll proves anything either way. But it does furnish us with a little more context'.

We will all have our own ideas of course. It is an integral part of being an impassioned fan. Heaven forbod we all simply cloned each other. For me part of being a fan is having my own personal relationship with what I think of as The Stones. You may see the band in an entirely different way to me. Good luck to you. That is what keeps passion alive and virbant. It is what keeps the band relevant and significant in our hearts and minds.

Your point about tempering our expectations is valid. And sensible. Will it happen? God knows. Some of us would certainly embrace it. But others won't. They will want the full on-stage spectacle for two hours or more. Refusing to accept that the band could ever age. That Mick, Keith and Ronnie can somehow defy time itself. Now here's a thought. Maybe they can! Who said it was only Robert Johnson that met the horned gentleman of wealth and taste at the crossroads? Maybe later that evening said gentleman also me a time-travelling Mick Jagger and they worked out a deal. 'If you write a song for me I will give you an everlasting performance life...'

Stranger things have happened!

Re: European Tour 2025 - rumors?
Posted by: daspyknows ()
Date: September 1, 2024 19:01

I just saw John Fogerty and George Thorogood last night at the Frost Amphitheater in Palo Alto Ca. Aside from the bands playing the shirt most frequently worn was a Rolling Stones shirt. I had one on and spoke to 5 others but saw even more. Everyone loved the show and was amazed by the performance. These are not like people on here but infrequent attendees of Rolling Stones gigs. If they were to repeat this year's tour every one would go again and was enviouse when I was describing my Europe 2025 plans.

Re: European Tour 2025 - rumors?
Posted by: serpico71 ()
Date: September 1, 2024 21:28

" In molti si aspettano a breve le nuove date per le tappe europee, e secondo le nostre fonti sarebbero già in fase di organizzazione delle date italiane, di cui una quasi certamente all’Olimpico di Roma"

Re: European Tour 2025 - rumors?
Posted by: yorkshirestone ()
Date: September 1, 2024 21:39

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" In molti si aspettano a breve le nuove date per le tappe europee, e secondo le nostre fonti sarebbero già in fase di organizzazione delle date italiane, di cui una quasi certamente all’Olimpico di Roma"

Google translated for you -

many are expecting the new dates for the European stages soon, and according to our sources the Italian dates are already being organised, one of which will almost certainly be at the Olimpico in Rome"

Re: European Tour 2025 - rumors?
Posted by: serpico71 ()
Date: September 1, 2024 21:49

"In molti si aspettano a breve le nuove date per le tappe europee, e secondo le nostre fonti sarebbero già in fase di organizzazione delle date italiane, di cui una quasi certamente all’Olimpico di Roma.", according to an Italian publication



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