Hello !!

BV, you said "...if they are coming to Europe from the Far East".

Is that a hint?

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Italy, Spain, France and Austria should be on every tour in Europe. Then add Portugal. Then add UK, Ireland, The Netherlands, Belgium, Switzerland - Bern, Germany more than one show, and now it is time for both Denmark, Norway and Finland. Keep you calendar open for summer 2025 in Europe, and, they might start already spring time, if they are coming to Europe from the Far East.

Why Austria? I would guess the 'must-visit' countries are: Italy, Spain, France, Germany, Netherlands. The last one, because of selfish reasons

I base my posts on inside info I get, and not on random dreams.

Bjornulf

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Italy, Spain, France and Austria should be on every tour in Europe. Then add Portugal. Then add UK, Ireland, The Netherlands, Belgium, Switzerland - Bern, Germany more than one show, and now it is time for both Denmark, Norway and Finland. Keep you calendar open for summer 2025 in Europe, and, they might start already spring time, if they are coming to Europe from the Far East.

Why Austria? I would guess the 'must-visit' countries are: Italy, Spain, France, Germany, Netherlands. The last one, because of selfish reasons

I base my posts on inside info I get, and not on random dreams.

okay chief, all good. But you say 'should be on every tour'. That seems more an opinion than a fact or inside info (?). Nevertheless: all countries are good. Traveling distances are never far.

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Italy, Spain, France and Austria should be on every tour in Europe. Then add Portugal. Then add UK, Ireland, The Netherlands, Belgium, Switzerland - Bern, Germany more than one show, and now it is time for both Denmark, Norway and Finland. Keep you calendar open for summer 2025 in Europe, and, they might start already spring time, if they are coming to Europe from the Far East.

Why Austria? I would guess the 'must-visit' countries are: Italy, Spain, France, Germany, Netherlands. The last one, because of selfish reasons

I base my posts on inside info I get, and not on random dreams.

okay chief, all good. But you say 'should be on every tour'. That seems more an opinion than a fact or inside info (?). Nevertheless: all countries are good. Traveling distances are never far.

I do mention four countries in central Europe, which «should be on every tour in Europe», in my opinion. Then there is normally a limit of number of shows, stadium availability, security issues (e.g. Warzaw and Helsinki originally scheduled for 2022) etc. I do have info about booked stadiums, but they are not signed by a contract with the band, so there is no point in starting rumours about shows never happening. Still, there is a pattern. Dont book a holiday in the canary islands next summer, or a fishing trip, that is my advice. There might be a tour, just as great as the one they just finished in North America last
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Bjornulf

So asia/japan (aus?)early 2025 and then europe from spring (which starts 20 march to 20 june))

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i could see mick and keith sitting on stools and doing a few songs if there both alive and able in 2032 for the 70th anniversary

why not

if willie nelson can perform in his 90's so can mick and keith if they want to

i think mick will continue performing for the rest of his life in some way

but the stones tours will have to stop eventually 2-3 years absolute max in my opinion

dosen't mean they'll stop performing at all

or the last show was the last show ever

why are some people so interested and annoyed at other people having potentially unrealistic opinions about there future endeavors as a band?

so what

what's the worst that happens there wrong hate to tell everyone this but most of the guess about what there gonna do next made on this site over the last few decades have been wrong in hindsight

so why must people stop now because there 80?

well they were 50 60 70 etc. etc. it's over when it's over let's just let people enjoy the ride while it last

No annoyance here mate! Interest yes, Annoyance no. We are fans! Having a range of opinions, different points of view, challenging each other, having a laugh about it - its all part of fandom.

The thought of Mick and Keith doing some kind of front-porch rocking-chair schtick fills me with horror. After all the energy, swagger and 'in-yer face-ness' The Stones brought into our world, to subside in that way would be a huge anti-climax. But I'm not saying this in anger. If it happens and others love it, then good luck to 'em. But it ain't for me...

ok i see that and agree with you

but my comment about the stool was about them in there 90's for some kind of one off event to celebrate the 70th anniversary not a tour or even a full show

maybe a couple blues songs on the stools and then they stand up and do jjf and satisfaction

and i understand and respect your distaste for that idea

but mick and keith probably don't think or care about how there performing now or in ten years affects there legacy or reflects on there younger selves they may just wanna perform because they wanna perform

Indeed sir. I completely agree. Stuff like legacy matters hugely to nerds like me. I've been a fan since I was twelve years old and tend to be very protective of the London/Decca era Stones. But then everyone who is a Stones fan is probably a fan of a different version of the band. After all each fan has their own individual relationship with The Stones. The band members would go nuts trying to keep us all happy. So they will probably aim for the largest common denominator, and season that with a pretty large helping of their own personal wishes.

And who can blame them...

Count me incredibly excited. It's going to be a painful number of months waiting for an announcement!

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Indeed sir. I completely agree. Stuff like legacy matters hugely to nerds like me. I've been a fan since I was twelve years old and tend to be very protective of the London/Decca era Stones. But then everyone who is a Stones fan is probably a fan of a different version of the band. After all each fan has their own individual relationship with The Stones. The band members would go nuts trying to keep us all happy. So they will probably aim for the largest common denominator, and season that with a pretty large helping of their own personal wishes.

And who can blame them...

yeah i get that fair enough

i was born 1991 and became a fan in my late teens so i really don't have the extra baggage of having been a fan in a earlier era

for me the first tour i was a fan for and aware of was 50 and counting and the first new album hackney diamonds (or blue and lonesome if you count that)

you where there near the beginning of there career and i came in near the end of it

that might result in a slightly different view regarding there legacy and other things i suppose

but let's stop this off topic discussion bv just dropped some very interesting info and it looks like the rumour mill has started churning out some good stuff

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I think the North America 2024 tour was 20 shows because of the expenses they had with the planned 2023 tour, which was 14 shows planned, then taken off same week as they planned to announce it.

They do normally one show in the Nordic region, then two in Germany. Bern is like 90% for sure because they are loyal to previous plans, but we all know what happened to Valladolid Spain, never resheduled.

What we do know is that the tour in Europe will be a great success, so just start preparing your family to a summer in Europe that will fit into the Stones tour schedule!

Thanks for the info BV. Much appreciated hope I can make it to some UK shows.

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I do have info about booked stadiums, but they are not signed by a contract with the band, so there is no point in starting rumours

oh, go on... you know you want to

Thank you Bjornulf! I appreciate hearing the Stones plans for 2025. I will plan my calendar accordingly. Let’s wish good health to all involved so there may be another great tour.

Patience folks .

But the machine has never really minded the leaks and rumours.

They're good word of mouth marketing...and if it doesn't happen, then they've never announced it. No foul



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Semi-OT but when things really come to an end they could do a multiple-dates residency in a London venue.
Instead of bringing the Stones circus in one's country they could settle in one place and let fans come to them.

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Semi-OT but when things really come to an end they could do a multiple-dates residency in a London venue.
Instead of bringing the Stones circus in one's country they could settle in one place and let fans come to them.

Like Adele did with her 10 shows in Munich. Maybe they could perform 7 shows in London and 7 in one city on the continent. Less traveling, cheaper poduction etc.

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Semi-OT but when things really come to an end they could do a multiple-dates residency in a London venue.
Instead of bringing the Stones circus in one's country they could settle in one place and let fans come to them.

Like Adele did with her 10 shows in Munich. Maybe they could perform 7 shows in London and 7 in one city on the continent. Less traveling, cheaper poduction etc.

Over 3 weeks. Not playing without a few day break.

Semi OT but that’s how the eagles handled Europe this tour - 5 nights in Manchester (23k capacity co-op live) and 2 in Arnhem (gelredome where stones played in 2017)

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Over 3 weeks. Not playing without a few day break.

Sounds like a great plan/schedule.
Now imagine "special theme" nights : one EOMS heavy concert, another SG heavy, etc etc.

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Why Austria? I would guess the 'must-visit' countries are: Italy, Spain, France, Germany, Netherlands. The last one, because of selfish reasons

Why Austria? Because the show there attracts fans not only from Austria but also from surrounding countries such as Hungary, Slovenia, Czechia, Slovakia, Croatia, etc., or even - depending on where in Austria - northern Italy, or also Germany.

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Why Austria? I would guess the 'must-visit' countries are: Italy, Spain, France, Germany, Netherlands. The last one, because of selfish reasons

Why Austria? Because the show there attracts fans not only from Austria but also from surrounding countries such as Hungary, Slovenia, Czechia, Slovakia, Croatia, etc., or even - depending on where in Austria - northern Italy, or also Germany.

I was at the Vienna concert in 2022 . The entire pitch was packed with fans .Not seen that at a Stones stadium show before.



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I do hope Central-Eastern Europe will get a well-deserved show, either in Warsaw or Prague.

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I do hope Central-Eastern Europe will get a well-deserved show, either in Warsaw or Prague.

Why not both?

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I do hope Central-Eastern Europe will get a well-deserved show, either in Warsaw or Prague.

Why not both?

neither of these have changed their geographical location…

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Semi-OT but when things really come to an end they could do a multiple-dates residency in a London venue.
Instead of bringing the Stones circus in one's country they could settle in one place and let fans come to them.

Have the Stones ever done a residency since their Crawdaddy Club and Eel Pie Island days? That's not to say that they never would, but it doesn't seem to be their preferred style.

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Semi-OT but when things really come to an end they could do a multiple-dates residency in a London venue.
Instead of bringing the Stones circus in one's country they could settle in one place and let fans come to them.

Have the Stones ever done a residency since their Crawdaddy Club and Eel Pie Island days? That's not to say that they never would, but it doesn't seem to be their preferred style.

Madison Square Garden January 14/16/17, 1998 ?

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Semi-OT but when things really come to an end they could do a multiple-dates residency in a London venue.
Instead of bringing the Stones circus in one's country they could settle in one place and let fans come to them.

Have the Stones ever done a residency since their Crawdaddy Club and Eel Pie Island days? That's not to say that they never would, but it doesn't seem to be their preferred style.

Madison Square Garden January 14/16/17, 1998 ?

Amsterdam , Arena , Bridges to Babylon tour 5x ;

June 29 , July 1/2/5/6

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Madison Square Garden January 14/16/17, 1998 ?

Amsterdam , Arena , Bridges to Babylon tour 5x ; June 29 , July 1/2/5/6

3 x Alpine Valley, East Troy (WI), 8-Sep-1989 - 11-Sep-1989

3 x Sullivan Stadium, Foxborough (MA), 29-Sep-1989 - 3-Oct-1989

4 x LA Memorial Coliseum, Los Angeles, 18-Oct-1989 - 22-Oct-1989

4 x Shea Stadium, New York City, 25-Oct-1989 - 29-Oct-1989

3 x Convention Center, Atlantic City (NJ), 17-Dec-1989 - 20-Dec-1989

10 x Tokyo Dome, 14-Feb-1990 - 27-Feb-1990

4 x Giants Stadium, East Rutherford (NJ), 12-Aug-1994 - 17-Aug-1994

4 x Oakland Coliseum, 26-Oct-1994 - 31-Oct-1994

4 x Foro Sol, Mexico City, 14-Jan-1995 - 20-Jan-1995

3 x Estádio do Pacaembu, São Paulo, 27-Jan-1995 - 30-Jan-1995

5 x River Plate, Buenos Aires, 9-Feb-1995 - 16-Feb-1995

7 x Tokyo Dome, 6-Mar-1995 - 17-Mar-1995

3 x Wembley Stadium, London, 11-Jul-1995 - 16-Jul-1995

4 x Oakland Coliseum, 14-Nov-1997 - 19-Nov-1997

4 x Tokyo Dome, 12-Mar-1998 - 19-Mar-1998

5 x River Plate, Buenos Aires, 29-Mar-1998 - 5-Apr-1998

3 x Rod Laver Arena, Melbourne, 25-Feb-2003 - 1-Mar-2003

3 x O2 Arena, London, 21-Aug-2007 - 26-Aug-2007

3 x United Center, Chicago, 28-May-2013 - 3-Jun-2013

3 x Tokyo Dome, 26-Feb-2014 - 6-Mar-2014

3 x La Plata (Argentina), 7-Feb-2016 - 13-Feb-2016

3 x U Arena, Paris - 19-Oct-2017 - 25-Oct-2017



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Semi-OT but when things really come to an end they could do a multiple-dates residency in a London venue.
Instead of bringing the Stones circus in one's country they could settle in one place and let fans come to them.

Have the Stones ever done a residency since their Crawdaddy Club and Eel Pie Island days? That's not to say that they never would, but it doesn't seem to be their preferred style.

Not like that, no. I don't think multiple nights' at, say, Madison Square Garden, is quite the same thing as 'residency' in the traditional sense. The Stones must've almost been a sort of 'house band' at the Crawdaddy.

Thank you Bjornulf for the information regarding possible 2025 shows!

While this question probably deserves its own thread: I wonder of the Stones will try and work on new tracks between now and when/if they go on the road next year?

The possibility of the boys returning to the Far East sounds intriguing! I hope they would visit some countries where they have never played before.

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I wonder of the Stones will try and work on new tracks between now and when/if they go on the road next year?

See this post about possible new track(s) - [iorr.org] .

Could you imagine 8 dates in far east area...1 month off Europe and have a new product/album out Jan 1 2025.