Steel Wheels was released pre-soundscan, but sales numbers were still logged to the best degree possible. But I cannot find the first week US sales for Steel Wheels or VooDoo Lounge, which was post soundscan.

Not looking for Chart Position, not looking for RIAA totals. Looking for actual US *first week* sales. Please comment only if you know and have verifiable information. My gut instinct puts both records between 150,000 - 200,000 first week.



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Looking for actual US sales.

Steel Wheels: RIAA says Gold certification (October 27, 1989) and 2x Platinum certification (January 9, 1990) - [www.RIAA.com] .

Voodoo Lounge: RIAA says Gold certification (September 12, 1994) and 2x Platinum (December 21, 1994) - [www.RIAA.com] .

These certifications should mirror the sales numbers until the given dates.

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Jbeckerfan

Looking for actual US sales.

Steel Wheels: RIAA says Gold certification (October 27, 1989) and 2x Platinum certification (January 9, 1990) - [www.RIAA.com] .

Voodoo Lounge: RIAA says Gold certification (September 12, 1994) and 2x Platinum (December 21, 1994) - [www.RIAA.com] .

These certifications should mirror the sales numbers until the given dates.

I am only seeking the first week sales.

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Jbeckerfan

I am only seeking the first week sales.

Happy seeking ....

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Jbeckerfan
Steel Wheels was released pre-soundscan, but sales numbers were still logged to the best degree possible. But I cannot find the first week US sales for Steel Wheels or VooDoo Lounge, which was post soundscan.

Not looking for Chart Position, Looking for actual US sales. Please comment only if you know and have verifiable information. My gut instinct puts both records between 150,000 - 200,000 first week.

Pre-1991, at least in the US, sales were always on the rise over the course of the weeks, it didn't happen like now when all the albums are in the record stores from day 1, in the big cities perhaps, but it took a while until the albums were available nationwide.

For this reason only a handful of albums debuted at #1 pre-1991, 6 albums actually, and this was because sales were so high in the big cities that those numbers were enough to surpass albums that were available from previous weeks.

Starting in May 1991, with Soundscan, the criteria began to be unified and in the course of a year and a half, by the end of 1992, Soundscan covered more than 95% of the market and the records were available from day 1 in all stores nationwide.

Gradually, starting in 1991, the albums began to have strong debuts in the first week and with real numbers, concrete figures. before that the rankings were made with lists that the stores sent, a Top 50/100 of the best-selling albums of each store and Billboard put together all the information and they made a list of the 200 best-selling albums in the country, something that seems totally ridiculous with today's reality but that's how the market worked in those times.

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Jbeckerfan
Steel Wheels was released pre-soundscan, but sales numbers were still logged to the best degree possible. But I cannot find the first week US sales for Steel Wheels or VooDoo Lounge, which was post soundscan.

Not looking for Chart Position, Looking for actual US sales. Please comment only if you know and have verifiable information. My gut instinct puts both records between 150,000 - 200,000 first week.

Pre-1991, at least in the US, sales were always on the rise over the course of the weeks, it didn't happen like now when all the albums are in the record stores from day 1, in the big cities perhaps, but it took a while until the albums were available nationwide.

For this reason only a handful of albums debuted at #1 pre-1991, 6 albums actually, and this was because sales were so high in the big cities that those numbers were enough to surpass albums that were available from previous weeks.

Starting in May 1991, with Soundscan, the criteria began to be unified and in the course of a year and a half, by the end of 1992, Soundscan covered more than 95% of the market and the records were available from day 1 in all stores nationwide.

Gradually, starting in 1991, the albums began to have strong debuts in the first week and with real numbers, concrete figures. before that the rankings were made with lists that the stores sent, a Top 50/100 of the best-selling albums of each store and Billboard put together all the information and they made a list of the 200 best-selling albums in the country, something that seems totally ridiculous with today's reality but that's how the market worked in those times.

Yes, this is great info. I am surprised to not be able to easily come with the the Voodoo Lounge first week sales, considering that was years into the Soundscan model.

Back on the real question...

Steel Wheels

The album reached its peak position of #3 in the week 4, climbing 44-12-4-3.


Voodoo Lounge

From Billboard's July 30, 1994 Issue:

STILL KING OF THE JUNGLE: The Rolling Stones achieve the highest chart debut in the band's venerable career, rolling more than 153,000 units in first -week sales, but the mighty soundtrack from "The Lion King" still leads The Billboard 200 by a fat margin. Sales on the Walt Disney project increase by 15,000 units, a gain of a little more than 5 %, which moves its new single -week tally to 311,000. That performance gives the "King" more than a 2 -to-1 margin over the Stones, and it appears the soundtrack's domination won't end any time soon. The movie, bolstered by a massive "see it again" television ad campaign, still looms large at the box office. Meanwhile, Elton John's single leads the Hot Adult Contemporary chart for a fourth week, as it climbs to No. 5 on Hot 100 Singles.

LOUNGING: "Voodoo Lounge" is the Rolling Stones' first album since The Billboard 200 began using SoundScan data three years and two months ago. Its previous set, 1991's mostly live "Flashpoint," debuted in that year's April 20 issue at No. 39 and peaked at No. 16, before the con- version to SoundScan. In February 1993, frontman Mick Jagger instantly scored the highest position in his solo career as "Wandering Spirit" debuted at No. 11 with first -week sales of almost 60,000 units. In its second week, a 36% decline pushed that title down to No. 20.

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"Hot Adult Contemporary chart" - is that for porn movie soundtracks or what..:

- Doxa

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"Hot Adult Contemporary chart" - is that for porn movie soundtracks or what..:

- Doxa

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...in other words, slow funky instrumental jazz?

Pre-Soundscan the entire industry was snorting itself.

There's zero real world reasons for IORR and BAB to actually be number one albums but... they were back then based on shipping/orders, not sales.